George Floyd's Death, Protests and Riots across the US

These websites belong to companies. It's like going to someone else's house as a guest. You can be ejected at any time. By now, people should not be surprised when they are no longer welcome as a guest when they visit big tech.

This is a BS libertarian argument.

In the internet age, social media and big tech are the de facto public square. This argument implicitly allows that access to discourse can be limited by private interests, who then impose their own, narrow ideological preferences.

Second, tech companies get special legal exemptions from e.g. libel laws, on the understanding that they are platforms, not publishers. By choosing what they allow on their platforms, they become de facto publishers.

The argument that "oh well they're private platforms so they can censor" is an argument that they came up with, to defuse criticism of censorship. And that talking point is happily repeated by the same NPCs who want to strip everyone of their rights, including their property rights, for the incredibly cynical reason that this argument advances their tactical interests in the culture war.
 
WOW!!! The planning behind the Riot.


I should have given a description. The investigation shows middle class teenagers being recruited and trained by a private military firm in Minneapolis.. They're objective is to force "the green new deal" threw militant action. Its called the Sunrise movement. These kids are totally brainwashed. . The AG of Minnesota, Keith Ellison is involved and we've heard lately his son supports Antifa. SHOCKING STUFF! I wonder WHO did this investigation?

My quote from an earlier post from George Webb:
"Antifa is a global network, well organized to produce a psychological affect on the public with their violence. They have merged with the Muslim Brotherhood as the frontline soldiers for this operation. Webb predicted 2 hot spots that could instigate an attack on Trump a few years ago, due to a strong Muslim Brotherhood presence, Minneapolis Minnesota and Indiana. Both have State representatives that are senior members of the Muslim Brotherhood, Keith Ellison, Attorney General for Minn. and Andre Carson in Indiana".
 
I would assume I am late to this observation, but when the people protesting are the same people who insisted everyone quarantine so we wouldn't all die, it seems the message now is that everyone can die now and that would be just fine? It's almost like the message flipped from "we're all gonna die if you don't straighten up" to "Nah, we're all gonna die, and we will make sure of it". Because those people can't just immediately go from "Covid will kill us all" to "Covid is not a concern". Or can they?
 
Because those people can't just immediately go from "Covid will kill us all" to "Covid is not a concern". Or can they?

I'm afraid they can, and people will follow. Heck, if they announced tomorrow that in order to stop Covid, we all need to hug strangers in the supermarket, people would comply! How many lies can you swallow until your brain turns to mush for good!?
 
I'm afraid they can, and people will follow. Heck, if they announced tomorrow that in order to stop Covid, we all need to hug strangers in the supermarket, people would comply! How many lies can you swallow until your brain turns to mush for good!?
Alice said:
Sometimes I believe in as many as six impossible things before breakfast.
It looks like we're not in Kansas any more. 🌈 We're in Wonderland!
 
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This is a BS libertarian argument.

In the internet age, social media and big tech are the de facto public square. This argument implicitly allows that access to discourse can be limited by private interests, who then impose their own, narrow ideological preferences.

Second, tech companies get special legal exemptions from e.g. libel laws, on the understanding that they are platforms, not publishers. By choosing what they allow on their platforms, they become de facto publishers.

The argument that "oh well they're private platforms so they can censor" is an argument that they came up with, to defuse criticism of censorship. And that talking point is happily repeated by the same NPCs who want to strip everyone of their rights, including their property rights, for the incredibly cynical reason that this argument advances their tactical interests in the culture war.
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The owners of this forum pay for their own tech. They are not on someone else's website because they know better than to do that.

Sure it's not fair. However, it is not an argument. It is an observation of reality. The controllers are using big tech to brainwash people, so they will take down websites and content that they don't like from their servers.
 
The Media Are Lying To You About Everything, Including The Riots



The media lied about the Russia collusion hoax, about the Mueller probe, about impeachment, about the coronavirus—and now they’re lying about the riots.
It seems no great event or upheaval in our national life can pass now without the media lying to our faces about it.
They lied about the Trump campaign colluding with Russia in 2016. They lied about the Mueller probe and Brett Kavanaugh and former national security adviser Mike Flynn. They lied about Trump’s phone call with the Ukrainian president and the impeachment farce that ensued. They lied about the coronavirus and the lockdowns and the White House response. And now they’re lying about the riots.

In recent days we’ve heard a steady drumbeat of lies, distortions, and disingenuousness from the mainstream media about almost every aspect of the unrest now gripping American cities. The deceit is almost too pervasive and amorphous to describe, but I’m going to try anyway.
Over the weekend we were told, for example, that the looting and violence was being instigated not by left-wing anarchists and antifa groups but by the media’s favorite villains: white supremacists. CNN, whose Atlanta offices were vandalized Friday, went on and on—without a shred of evidence to back it up—about how white supremacists might be infiltrating the protests and stirring up trouble. The New York Times, in a report that even quoted a senior police official in New York City saying outside anarchist groups were coordinating mayhem before the protests began, nevertheless veered into a long aside about how far-right “accelerationists” were hoping the unrest would bring about a long-sought second civil war.

By Monday, no one was talking about the white supremacist agitators anymore. The media had moved on to better, more plausible lies.
Here’s Matthew Yglesias of Vox, disingenuously comparing the rioters and looters to pro-democracy protesters in Hong Kong. His snarky tweet is meant to suggest Arkansas Sen. Tom Cotton is a hypocrite for supporting the Hong Kong protesters but calling for the restoration of order at home.
Tom Cotton’s plans vs 2020 pic.twitter.com/kXB0aMQpb1
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) June 1, 2020


No one should have to point out to Yglesias—or anyone else with a large media platform—that the looters of Minneapolis and the rioters in Philadelphia have nothing in common with the people fighting against an actual communist dictatorship in Hong Kong. Yet here we are.
This kind of disconnect—what can only be described, at best, as a willful misunderstanding of reality—has been disturbingly commonplace among media pundits and reporters since all this began.
Here’s NBC News’s Carl Quintanilla doing the same thing, comparing Trump’s positive comments about the peaceful protests of draconian coronavirus lockdown orders in Michigan on May 1 to his comments on Monday to state governors that they need to make arrests and restore order.

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Again, it should go without saying that the Michigan protests last month went off without any looting, rioting, or violence. No one was arrested because no one broke the law. There’s no valid comparison between those Michigan protests and the mass riots over the weekend. Surely Quintanilla knows this, which makes his commentary not just idiotic but deeply dishonest. He doesn’t care about accuracy and genuine insight, he cares about plaudits from woke Twitter—and he got them.
At every turn we see different iterations of media dishonesty. PBS Newshour’s White House correspondent Yamiche Alcindor on Sunday complained that Trump had called the rioters anarchists “without providing any evidence.”

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Had she opened her eyes, Alcindor might have seen the same evidence Trump and everyone else saw: news footage and cell phone videos circulating on social media of black-clad rioters burning and looting shops, attacking shop owners and motorists, and in some cases spray-painting actual anarchist symbols on public property.
Of course, Alcindor knows full well what the president meant by calling the rioters anarchists. She knows that many of them are indeed anarchists and left-wing provocateurs. We all know it. As mentioned above, the New York Times even reported on it.
Alcindor’s posture here is part of a broader pattern of opposition to Trump that the media has maintained for years, that whatever might be happening in the country, whether a global pandemic or mass rioting, the most important part of the story is always that Trump is behaving badly—that he’s lying, misleading, undermining democratic norms, tweeting mean things, whatever. Nothing, not even nationwide riots, are more important than pushing that narrative.
You see the media’s obsession with this narrative everywhere, no matter what the actual facts of a story might be. In Columbia, South Carolina, a man trying to protect his business was attacked and beaten senseless by an angry mob because he dared to call the cops. Yet Maggie Haberman of the New York Times thinks the big takeaway is that the man was described as “white” in a video of the attack that Trump posted about.

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After Trump’s Monday night walk through Lafayette Park to St. John’s Episcopal Church, the media breathlessly reported stories about violent Park Police clearing peaceful protestors with tear gas. After nearly 24 hours of endless tweets, articles, and cable news stories claiming protestors were tear-gassed for Trump’s “photo op,” the Park Police information officer disproved all prior reports confirming, “No tear gas was used by USPP officers or other assisting law enforcement partners.”
The Media Are Playing A Dangerous Game
One could go on and on with examples like this. Get on Twitter right now and you’re bound to find fresh examples posting every hour as reporters and pundits lie about events that are unfolding in real time.
Every once in a while, you get a pundit who’s so bad at lying, so unconvincing in his role as a serious newsman, the mask slips. Often, that pundit is CNN’s Don Lemon, a not-very-bright man with a penchant for letting his mask slip—like when he lost it on-air laughing at a stupid joke about how Trump supporters are ignorant rubes.
On Sunday, as American cities were burning and looters were rampaging through the streets, Lemon implored America, “Open your eyes. We are teetering on a dictatorship.” He didn’t mean a dictatorship of the mob, which would have actually made sense given the facts. No, for Lemon and his CNN colleagues the real threat is Trump, who had the audacity to declare that if mayors and governors couldn’t get their cities under control, he would.
“Is the president declaring war on America? What is happening here?” asked Lemon, later declaring that Trump is “playing a very dangerous game, because this will backfire.”
To answer Lemon’s question, what’s happening here is the same thing that’s been happening for years now: the media, not Trump, have declared war on America, they are indeed playing a dangerous game, and it will most certainly backfire.
John is the Political Editor at The Federalist. Follow him on Twitter.
 
Always expect attack. Know the modes of attack. Learn the methods to counter.

The owners of this forum pay for their own tech. They are not on someone else's website because they know better than to do that.

Sure it's not fair. However, it is not an argument. It is an observation of reality. The controllers are using big tech to brainwash people, so they will take down websites and content that they don't like from their servers.

You're absolutely right. I shouldn't have reacted emotionally. It is what it is.
 
These websites belong to companies. It's like going to someone else's house as a guest. You can be ejected at any time. By now, people should not be surprised when they are no longer welcome as a guest when they visit big tech.

Point being is that the free speech-hating Silicon Valley behemoths are a propaganda arm. Their house is basically the headquarters of the CIA.

Always expect attack. Know the modes of attack. Learn the methods to counter.

The owners of this forum pay for their own tech. They are not on someone else's website because they know better than to do that.

Sure it's not fair. However, it is not an argument. It is an observation of reality. The controllers are using big tech to brainwash people, so they will take down websites and content that they don't like from their servers.

Exactly, relying on them is a fool's game.
 
Not sure if this has been posted, but in Bristol (UK), the protesters are now tearing down statues. I just saw on FB a petition to tear down a statue of a slave-owner in a nearby local town.

Here is the article: Black Lives Matter protesters in Bristol pull down and throw statue of 17th-century slave trader into river

I posted this status on FB about it:

I suppose we should burn all of the books which are also not aligned with our ideology?

If only people understood a little history, they would not be doomed to repeat it. These thugs are tearing down statues and vandalizing cultural monuments, in the name of "anti-fascism" and "anti-nazis". Little do they know that the destruction of cultural monuments and heritage sites was the MODUS OPERANDI of the nazis.

Guess who else tears down cultural monuments? ISIS

Ever think for a second that those monuments might help to remind people of what NOT to do, based on the mistakes of others in the past?

Once you erase history, you are doomed to repeat it.

Here is an exerpt on the history of destruction of cultural monuments:

"Despite this legal protection, many cultural heritage sites are targeted by various armies and groups who hope to eliminate representations of a history that they feel opposes their aims.

Considering the power of such cultural sites, it is therefore unsurprising that radical groups who aim to change the status quo to accommodate their ideologies also gravitate towards destroying important cultural sites that represent the existing order.
One of the most famous campaigns is the Nazi destruction of various cultural artifacts under the Third Reich. It was this systematic destruction that led to the international prohibitions on the destruction of important cultural sites and objects during war. [5] The destruction was also accompanied by systematic looting, where various Nazi institutions competed for the spoils of the conquered areas. [6] As is the case in most examples of cultural destruction, the looting and destruction allowed the Nazis to demonstrate their power over conquered territory, either by physically taking or destroying symbols of the conquered’s history. "

"It is therefore evident that cultural heritage destruction primarily targets physical symbols of history such as monuments or cultural sites that may oppose a radical group’s beliefs or motives. Idols that may counter a religion’s doctrine or the history of an opposing ethnicity are equally targeted.

However, within this seemingly simple desire, it is also important to consider the role power plays in the destruction, whether it be over the targeted group or as a general demonstration to display a group’s adeptness to the international community. Understanding how sites are targeted is thus essential in trying to preserve these sites, important to both local communities and to world heritage, that remain under threat of destruction."

Excerpts taken from this paper: Burning Books and Bricks: a Brief History of Cultural Destruction — SIR Journal
http://www.sirjournal.org/research/...ricks-a-brief-history-of-cultural-destruction
 
CNN invites the wrong guest. Sheriff David Clarke sets Don Lemon straight.


I'm sure you noticed bjorn that this highly revealing interview you posted earlier between then Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke and CNN's Don Lemon dates from July 2016 e.g 'the President's lying' heated exchange relates to Obama not Trump. Just in case anyone thought it was contemporaneous with current events - though it's still a brilliantly revealing meeting between the rock of Clarke and the hard place of Lemon and his desperate attempts to keep the interview on CNN message.
 
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