2009 Crop Circles

Black Swan said:
anart said:
(not sure what is up with the wavy tram line in the large circle on the right end of this formation - doesn't make much sense, since tram lines are straight outside of the circle...)

Charles Mallet said:
Further, the formation stretches over the crest of the hill at the top of the field, making any direct full length sight line out of the question

So maybe it's the crest of the hill? I'm not sure because that doesn't seem to be the top end of the field from this view anyway. But perhaps it is a rise in the topography.

Yes it looks somehow funny.

here is one fieldphoto:

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and here from above, where some tram lines, it seems almost all (in the circles) are looking not to be straight:

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SAO said:
That's all fine and dandy, but did anybody notice the GIANT WHITE HORSE in the grass next to the circle?!?! Ahem. That's the real brain twitcher if you ask me! If I was the C's I'd probably throw some random white horses around too, just cuz horses are awesome. But if the C's are as sneaky and coy as I like to think they are (I often imagine them stick out their 6th density tongue in some of their responses), maybe there's a reason they plopped that circle near that horse and it was meant to be noticed in context? ...

That was the first thing I thought too. It seems like there should be some relation between them. There is also a weird formation between the circle and the horse. Can't tell what it is though, looks like a watering hole or something. So does anybody know anything about the reason for the horse?
 
Oh wow. The way the tram lines bend through the circles is really interesting. It could perhaps give some insight into the method of formation. What would it take to bend the tram lines in that way and lay all the crops down in a circle?

Looking at the aerial view, I can just imagine if i were to pinch where one of the circles is and twist it inward between my thumb and forefinger... Like screwing something in... it would result in the same kind of motion and pattern the tram lines are following. The most interesting ones are where the tram line cuts straight through the center of the circle.
 
SAO said:
That's all fine and dandy, but did anybody notice the GIANT WHITE HORSE in the grass next to the circle?!?! Ahem. That's the real brain twitcher if you ask me!

combsbt said:
So does anybody know anything about the reason for the horse?

It's a Hill Figure. This is what Wikipedia says about them:

A hill figure is a large visual representation created by cutting into a steep hillside and revealing the underlying geology. It is a type of geoglyph usually designed to be seen from afar rather than above. In some cases trenches are dug and rubble made from material brighter than the natural bedrock is placed into them. The new material is often chalk, a soft and white form of limestone, leading to the alternative name of chalk figure for this form of art.

Hill figures are common in England: examples include the Cerne Abbas giant, the Uffington White Horse, the Long Man of Wilmington, various badges of military units as well as the "lost" carvings at Cambridge, Oxford and Plymouth Hoe.

History
The creation of hill figures has been practised since prehistory and can include human (gigantotomy) and animal forms (cutting horses is known as "leucippotomy") as well as more abstract symbols and, in the modern era, advertising brands.

The reasons for the creation for the figures are varied and obscure. The Uffington Horse probably held religious significance, whereas the Cerne Abbas giant might have been a work of political satire.[1] The figures are usually created by the cutting away of the top layer of relatively poor soil on suitable hillsides. This exposes the white chalk beneath, which contrasts well with the short green hill grass, and the image is clearly visible for a considerable distance. Despite some of the figures being of great age, they are at the same time relatively new. The figures need to be maintained to stay visible, and local people often work to restore their local landmark on a regular basis, thereby continuing an unbroken tradition.

Lost figures
Since hill figures need to be maintained by the removal of regrown turf, only those which have motivated the local populace to look after them have survived. Ancient figures all have an associated fair or ceremony which involves maintaining them.

Unmaintained figures gradually fade away.[2] Firle Corn at Firle Beacon, Sussex could be a lost figure. Its existence is suggested by infrared photography. If it is a lost figure, its age is uncertain, and unlikely to be prehistoric in origin as only one figure in the UK has been shown to be of this age, the Uffington White Horse.

I think the horse figure we are discussing is the newest of the Wiltshire white horses.

_http://wiltshirewhitehorses.org.uk/devizesnew.html

The new Devizes white horse
Ordnance Survey grid reference: SU 016 641

This is the newest of the Wiltshire white horses. Designed by Peter Greed, it was cut by around two hundred local people in 1999 to mark the millennium. It is on Roundway Hill to the north of Devizes, overlooking the village of Roundway. This horse is the only one in Wiltshire, and one of only four in Britain, to face to the right.

In 1954, pupils at Devizes Grammar school researched the old Devizes horse, and one of them, Peter Greed, drew up plans for re-creating it. Nothing came of that at the time, but years later, in 1998, Sarah Padwick, who had recently moved to Devizes and was unaware of the old horse, wrote to a local paper suggesting that a Devizes hill figure should be cut on Roundway Down to celebrate the millennium.

Chris Combe, a local tenant farmer, offered land on Roundway Hill for the project, and the owners, the Crown Estates Commissioners, gave their approval for the land to be used. It was decided that a reversal of the design drawn up in 1954 for re-creating the old Devizes horse should be used, and thus the new horse faces right. Work began on the site in August 1999, ultimately involving some two hundred local people with the assistance of heavy machinery supplied by Pearce Civil Engineering. By the end of September Devizes had a new white horse.

The horse can be seen well, though somewhat foreshortened, from Hopton Industrial Estate and from near Roundway village. To visit the site of the horse, take the A361 out of Devizes towards Swindon. Just before the first big roundabout, take the left turn signposted Roundway and Garden Industrial Estate, then follow the narrow lane to Roundway village. In the village, take the right fork by the phone box. Beyond the village take the right fork on the hill. At the top of the hill, there is a stile on the right which gives access to the site. A few yards further on there is a parking area on the left.

By early September 2008 the horse had become barely visible. The Devizes Millennium White Horse Committee were seeking funding to restore it, but the Probation Service - Community Service Group then took on the project of thoroughly cleaning the horse. The first stage of the cleaning took place on the 18th September 2008, and the head and shoulders of the horse are looking really good again.
 
clerck de bonk said:
about the "wavy" tram lines... Use the grey mass you have between your ears ;)

Did you have some information to add to the discussion?
 
anart said:
clerck de bonk said:
about the "wavy" tram lines... Use the grey mass you have between your ears ;)

Did you have some information to add to the discussion?

OK, the tram lines are straight underneath(on the ground that is) but "wavy" on top.
This is because the crop is trodden(don't know if that is the right word here) down in a circular fashion.
Look in abcdefghiJoerg's last post, the up most pic, it shows quite well in that one I think.

If You already knew this then my text is noise and void.
 
All Cannings Bridge, near Stanton St Bernard, Wiltshire. Reported 6th May

_http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/allcannings/allcannings2009.html

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[quote author=E]
some flowery kind of crop.
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I think they're saying "we can make do with ANY available medium". :lol:
 
about the "wavy" tram lines...

looking at the close-up, the tram lines show differently in rape-seed than they do in wheat - wheat is the same golden colour all the way up, whereas rape-seed has green stems and yellow flowers at the top.

so the wavy tramlines are just a side-effect of the direction the crop is lying down, and the green area is where the stems are exposed - offset in the direction of the crop flattening. In a wheat circle, you don't see that effect because the exposed stems are the same colour as the wheat-heads.

hope that makes sense, I'd have to draw a picture, really. if you look carefully at the close-up pic seen from ground level then you should be able to see what I mean.
 
Just an idea:

If you look at the formation from above in abcdefghiJoerg's post no 60, but read it from right to left, it could be the earth fluctuating between realms - like one Earth, then two different Earths, then back to one etc., until, in the end, there is a final separation. I don't know what the large circle between the two could be though.
 
Linda Moulton Howe has another report on the Wiltshire circle. Charles Mallet of Silent Circle seems to think it quite possible it was being deliberately destoryed.

800-Foot-Long Pattern in U. K. Oilseed Rape - A Sigil Someone Wanted Destroyed?
_http://www.earthfiles.com/Images/news/U/UKMantonPazzagliniPage23.jpg

She cites Mario Pazzaglini who wrote Symbolic Messages: An Introduction to a Study of “Alien” Writing to compare the Wiltshire circle with ancient sigils.

Linda Moulton Howe said:
May 9, 2009 Wiltshire, England - The person who introduced me to the history of sigils and what they are was Mario Pazzaglini, Ph.D., a psychologist in Wilmington, Delaware, who studied the ancient science of alchemy and secret codes of sigils. A decade before his death, he assembled a limited edition booklet entitled Symbolic Messages: An Introduction to a Study of “Alien” Writing © 1991. Dr. Pazzaglini gave me a copy and in this Earthfiles report, I am reprinting pages 21 - 23 about sigils

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Peaks Down, nr Swindon, Wiltshire. Reported 9th May

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_http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009/peaksdown/peaksdown2009.html

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_http://www.earthfiles.com/
 
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