I am reading the 3rd part of Laura's "Splitting realities" series, and there is this quote that appears to be relevant both to the current situation and Neil's conundrum.
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I am reading the 3rd part of Laura's "Splitting realities" series, and there is this quote that appears to be relevant both to the current situation and Neil's conundrum.
Trump Banned From Social Media and Required To Step Down?
Fb Inc. is taking certainly one of President Donald Trump’s largest megaphones away, presumably for good. The social media big took the unprecedented step Thursday of extending a block on Trump’s Fb, and Instagram accounts that it had put in place a day earlier, following an identical transfer...
gizmochronicle.com
Guessing the revolution won't be televised . . .
Geeze - gotta hit the hay. What will tomorrow bring?
@JEEP ,
Thanks for that article.
It made me think of Putin and how Trump and Putin seem to be major players in this whole "show".
I think we may be more surprised than even the ending to best mystery movie ever if we just stay "tuned".
Session 14 June 2014:
I know this sort of transcends politics but I am a bit weary of just politics and psychopaths. That is not to say I will not keep observing the "show".
Thanks for that article.
It made me think of Putin and how Trump and Putin seem to be major players in this whole "show".
I think we may be more surprised than even the ending to best mystery movie ever if we just stay "tuned".
Session 14 June 2014:
I know this sort of transcends politics but I am a bit weary of just politics and psychopaths. That is not to say I will not keep observing the "show".
BHelmet
The Living Force
retired General Grandpa McGeezer makes Biden look like "Infomercial Guy" after a couple espressos and a bowl of sugar frosted flakes...
Why trot this guy out there? Unless:
a. they don't really have the laptop and it is a big bluff in a game of 5D Chicken Chess
b. this guy is a deep state actor (programmed or otherwise) to sew... false hope... confusion... noise?
c. ?
This is getting to be like one of those bad screenplays where one disjointed WTH? plot twist is followed another equally bizarre and unbelievable plot twist
Leelee
Jedi
Indeed. Newspeak and doublethink will ensure that, lest we be whisked away never to be seen again.
They make this S&$T up.
Trump joins short list of banned Twitter accounts, including Nazis, terrorists and former advisors
Published Friday, January 8, 2021 9:15PM EST Last Updated Friday, January 8, 2021 9:16PM EST
Graham Slaughter CTVNews. ca Writer
7-9 minutes
President Donald Trump has prepared a sweeping list of individuals he’s hoping to pardon in the final days of his administration that includes senior White House officials, family members, prominent rappers -- and possibly himself, according to people familiar with the matter.
Trump is hoping to announce the pardons on Jan. 19 -- his final full day in office -- and his ideas are currently being vetted by senior advisers and the White House counsel’s office, the people said.
President Donald Trump, from left, Ivanka Trump, and Mark Meadows, White House chief of staff, depart the White House on Jan. 4.
Photographer: Erin Scott/Bloomberg
The biggest question facing his legal team may be whether the president has the authority to pardon himself, as he has discussed in recent weeks with top aides, according to the people familiar with his conversations. Trump has previously claimed the power, though it’s a matter of legal dispute and has never before been attempted by a president.
A self-pardon could also prove a major political liability and hamstring another presidential bid, with opponents sure to suggest the self-pardon amounted to an admission that he thought he might be prosecuted for breaking the law.
Preemptive pardons are under discussion for top White House officials who have not been charged with crimes, including Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, senior adviser Stephen Miller, personnel chief John McEntee, and social media director Dan Scavino.
The president’s eldest daughter, Ivanka Trump, her husband, Jared Kushner, who both hold White House positions, are also under consideration, the people said. Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani has also discussed the issue of a pardon with the president.
Rudy Giuliani speaks during a “Save America Rally” near the White House on Jan. 6. Photographer: Eric Lee/Bloomberg
QuickTake: Why Presidential Pardons Are Normal, Trump’s Less So (Link)
Preemptive pardons are also under consideration for other members of the president’s family, as well as friends and allies. For instance, Trump has floated a preemptive pardon for Kimberly Guilfoyle, the former Fox News host who is dating his eldest son, Donald Trump Jr.
The president wants the preemptive pardons to shield recipients from prosecutions for any federal crimes committed before the pardons were issued.
He’s also considering a traditional pardon for Albert Pirro, who previously worked with the president on real estate deals and was convicted of tax fraud. Pirro is the ex-husband of Fox News host Jeanine Pirro, a former district attorney of Westchester County in New York.
Celebrity Pardons
Trump is similarly considering pardoning celebrities including rapper Lil Wayne -- with whom he posed for a photo during the presidential campaign --as well as rapper Kodak Black, who is serving time for falsifying paperwork to obtain a firearm.
Other prominent celebrities including rapper Lil Yachty and Baltimore Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson have publicly lobbied Trump to pardon Kodak Black, who said in a now-deleted tweet that he would donate $1 million to charity if the president freed him.
Trump’s list is currently being vetted by lawyers who are concerned that pardons could create new allegations of obstruction of justice for members of the administration. The process is being managed in part by White House Counsel Pat Cipollone. A White House spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
While some of the proposed pardons have moved through the legal steps needed inside the White House, the idea of a self-pardon is far less developed, the people say, and so far only at the discussion stage.
Shielding Trump
A self-pardon could shield Trump from prosecution over a myriad of issues his political opponents have suggested could be worthy of prosecution, from his federal income tax filings to hush money payments to an adult film star to his inaugural committee’s spending at venues owned by the Trump family.
Some Democrats have continued to say Trump should face legal scrutiny over the Russian interference campaign during the 2016 election, despite Special Counsel Robert Mueller finding no evidence the president colluded with the Kremlin. And in recent days, Trump has drawn scrutiny over his effort to pressure officials in Georgia to overturn the results of the presidential election there, as well as inciting what became a violent mob that stormed the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday.
A U.S. Capitol Police officer died of injuries he sustained “while physically engaging with protesters” during the unrest, according to the department. The officer was the fifth person who died in connection to the storming of the Capitol.
The Constitution says that a president “shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” That sprawling authority is seen as absolute by some, though a Department of Justice legal opinion from 1974 stated that “the president cannot pardon himself,” because of what it described as a “fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case.”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 4, 2018
As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong? In the meantime, the never ending Witch Hunt, led by 13 very Angry and Conflicted Democrats (& others) continues into the mid-terms!
Brian Kalt, a professor at Michigan State University College of Law who has written extensively about self-pardons, said it’s not clear whether the president can do it.
“The main argument in favor of the self-pardon power is that the Constitution does not expressly rule it out, and that the pardon power is extremely expansive,” he said.
“The argument against self-pardonability starts with the idea that granting a pardon is, by definition, something one can only do to another person,” Kalt said. “There is also a general principle in the law against being the judge in one’s own case.”
Ford and Nixon
Trump would not be the first person to issue pardons preemptively, though the action is rare. Gerald Ford did so for Richard Nixon only a month after his resignation over the Watergate scandal, granting him a “full, free, and absolute pardon” for offenses he “has committed or may have committed or taken part in” during his entire term as president.
Trump’s pardoning power only extends to federal crimes, meaning he could not protect himself or his family from legal trouble on the state level. New York Attorney General Letitia James had opened a civil fraud inquiry into the president’s businesses while Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance is pursuing a criminal investigation.
Trump has already issued pardons to several political allies and friends, including in the weeks since he lost re-election.
Among those pardoned in recent days were Trump’s 2016 campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, who’d been convicted of financial crimes and illegal lobbying, and Charles Kushner, the real estate developer and father of the president’s son-in-law. The elder Kushner was convicted of charges that included preparing false tax returns and witness retaliation.
(Updates with police officer’s death in Capitol attack in 16th paragraph.)
Violence in the Capitol, Dangers in the Aftermath
From the Cold War to the War on Terror: the harms from authoritarian "solutions" are often greater than the threats they are ostensibly designed to combat.
greenwald.substack.com
Thats was being pushed by the likes of LLinWood!
Mark Dice @MarkDice
@CampaignMonitor suspended the President from sending out emails to those on his list.
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Nević Nenad
The Living Force
One thing, the Cs said: "But does he have the boldness to do what must be done?" which implies that he had a means to do it, just didnt had the courage. Maybe that is why they pushing that strange impeachment now.
They pulled off almost the exact same thing during the major anti-Covid protest in Berlin: a (small) bunch of a fringe rightwing group protested in front of the parliament, and then tried to enter, and they almost succeeded because miraculously, it was only a few policemen there. The group is infiltrated by domestic intelligence, if not downright created by it. Then the media organized a massive shitstorm calling what happened "the Reichstag storm", even though nothing happened, and even though this fringe group was in no way connected to the organizers of the anti-Covid protests. All to slander the movement and justify persecution, obviously. Always the same silly tactics.
A common fault is to assign blame to others, when as V says, we should look in the mirror:
Many have assigned saviour status to Trump. This has been aided greatly by the psyop which involved the Qanon movement, the socalled White Hats, Simon Parker and others like him, who all spoke in deterministic language. Everything was explained as falling into a giant master plan of cleaning the Swamp with all kinds of hidden Patriots, who were doing amazing things behind the scenes. It had so much the ring of a Hollywood western in it with the cavallery coming in the last moment, that one wonders if the script wasn't really written there and then distributed via all the intel agencies' various mouth pieces. The message was the same, do nothing as everything is taken care of by the good guys, patriots in uniform working behind the scenes, making all kinds of arrests, blowing up underground tunnels and more such hallucinations. A free lunch. Many of these then linked it with the dawn of a new wonderful reality for all the patriots who were going to be ascended to a new dimension, which to be me sounded like a revamped rapture movement.
The more people bought into this Hollywoodish fairytale, the more the disillusion, disappointment and anger when things didn't materialize. This was most likely the whole idea of this psyop, to infiltrate Trump's base and then vector that movement and its anger away from the ruling elite. That anger is now being directed at Trump for not delivering Paradise as the psyop promised instead of at the elected officials both Democratic as Republican who allowed the election to be stolen and the lie to win. Trump did his part in the hero's journey, the question is whether the 75 million Trump supporters individually will take on the mantel of the hero? Will we choose to grow up, leave childish ways behind and pursue the truth over the lies and strive to become better, more responsible, more honorable human beings (a la Jordan Peterson) or will we continue to act like children and blame others for our misery while playing lip service to the truth? Individually we can be the light which we wish to see in this sea of darkness.
I think Joe said it, when a few pages ago, he pointed out that Trump and his allies from the beginning were woefully ignorant about what forces they were up against. And without knowing the true scope of your enemy, then victory will remain unlikely. Thanks to Trump and his efforts over the last 4 years, the veil of the man behind the curtain has been torn away and the emperor can be seen to be naked for all with eyes to see, if they so choose.
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Ocean
The Living Force
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!
9:46 AM · Jan 8, 2021
Enough already. . . Who cares about your empty promises for the future movement. You didn't walk your talk, nor did those you had us trust. You ask all Patriots to join you in DC, for what sir? To tell us what many of us were already aware of? It's going to be big, you said, Phooey!
You and your following jumped ship on 75 million of us Patriots. You arrested no one, not one scoundrel but you all said it's coming, wait for it. Enough already!
You had better have something of substance to show for all the admiration we bestowed on you or your name will just disappear from our lips forever while we deal with the purge / carnage you left for us (dissolution of 2nd amendment).
Michaelrc get a grip on youself. And it might help to stop throwing your toys out of the pram! I have no time for cry babies
United Gnosis
Jedi Council Member
Also, MichaelRC, this is a great moment for self-reflection. Your expectations are obviously frustrated and you are irritated. I noticed that you repeated the same word in both posts, expecting something in return for the admiration/adulation he received. Who was adulating him? Who asked you to adulate him? What does he owe you?
In my opinion, even if Trump was just as much of a plant as Obama, his critical race theory ban already makes him the best president of my lifetime. No new wars, about the same. Tons of details, small and little, all over the place, many of which would have been impressive even if legacy resistance bureaucrats weren't blockading from every angle. No reason at all for any personal emotion.
Except if you let it slip under your nose that you were attaching your expectations to Trump. Stop looking at him and look at yourself.
In my opinion, even if Trump was just as much of a plant as Obama, his critical race theory ban already makes him the best president of my lifetime. No new wars, about the same. Tons of details, small and little, all over the place, many of which would have been impressive even if legacy resistance bureaucrats weren't blockading from every angle. No reason at all for any personal emotion.
Except if you let it slip under your nose that you were attaching your expectations to Trump. Stop looking at him and look at yourself.
While the twitter account of #Trump is suspended, the account of the former Malaysian PM (1.3M followers) who called to kill the French by the millions is still active
Seems like the purge has started and the Demorats are not even in power yet... this is what happens when people become dependent on US social platforms.... time for a change me thinks..
Amor
Jedi
The only option now left for Trump is military to defend peoples right to have constitutional election. All the faces of traitors are known, evidence of fraud as well, people involved with. Looks like an advanced chess game where he holds his position on defense making it look like he is pushed into the corner while enemy bouncing the bricks here and there like circus artist revealing positions of weakness and vulnerability creating several openings. Maybe it is not so apparent to everyone because of the media smoke screen, but just because there is a smoke screen. In order to hide something you have to show it in one or another way.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
Going back over some previous posts.
Wondering "if the something really bad will happen" to help impose Biden's authority is this or is there something more in the off'ing?
I feel like there's quite a lot of pressure building internally in the states that needs an outlet somehow. Truth be told, they need to find a way to turn the attention of the 74 million Trump supporters to something else other than elections.
A part of me therefore thinks we're in for some big events that will reverberate through American society, the hope of which will be to
a) Solidify Biden's authority
b) Turn the attention of the 74 million to something else, thereby bringing them under the umbrella of the agenda.
I feel that as Catherine Austin Fitts says, all these apparent disconnected things are actually connected and merge into one cohesive strategy to usher in a new reality.
- Great Reset
- Rule by technocracy and ultimately, unelected officials
- Biosecurity state including loss of bodily autonomy.
- New money system
- De-population on a massive scale
Think the agenda will proceed unless something intervenes. Sadly Trump, if he has the cajones needs to know he's probably fighting for humanity and develop some courage to do all he can to stop the plans even if it means his demise. Leaders sometimes have to do such things as that's their calling. Don't be a bloody wimp Trump, you chose to be a leader.
