2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

bjorn said:
Oops, wrong topic. Can a moderater place this comment here: Putin says it like it is again.

Sorry for the trouble.
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I disagree. I think it is very appropriate in this thread. A battle is raging between those who ‘hope’ based on available information and those who ‘anti-hope’ based on same information. President Putin’s message very much applies.
 
They are in a hurry

U.S. House Democrats to pursue impeachment if Trump not removed
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Democrats plan a vote on Monday to urge Vice President Mike Pence to take steps to remove President Donald Trump from office after his supporters’ deadly storming of the Capitol, before attempting to impeach him again
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The plan, spelled out by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in a letter to members on Sunday evening, came as Washington struggles to decide what to do about the Republican president in the 10 days before Democratic President-elect Joe Biden is sworn in on Jan. 20.
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Democrats promise quick move to impeachment if 25th Amendment push fails
Pelosi said the House will attempt to pass a resolution by unanimous consent Monday morning calling for Pence and Trump's Cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment and remove Trump from office.
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Bluegazer said:

(Full articule translated)

Analysis:

There are only two parties worldwide: Globalists of the Great Reset and anti-globalists of the Great Awakening.

By Alexander Dugin

Throughout history, Russia has had, and still has, many problems and conflicts that set our country against the United States, particularly on a geopolitical level. We have fought against each other on different sides of the barricades many times. But what is happening in the United States at the moment is something completely different. It is a question of principle.

Half of the US population is under the totalitarian rule of the other half. A real left-liberal dictatorship has come to power in this country. And in such a situation, we are forced to give our support to the half of the US population that is being oppressed.

Therefore, it is no longer an election as such: what has taken place in the United States is a coup d'état that was sponsored by a conspiracy carried out by illegitimate elites. The presidency of the United States has been hijacked. The United States is now under the control of an extremist board. They are now experiencing what is the Maidan or the Third World.

But the novelty in all this is that for the first time in history the globalists have used a scenario of a revolution of colour (which includes electoral theft, fraud and disinformation campaigns) in their own house. Then, they have finally fully discovered their face and we are able to observe them clearly. They used to carry out such practices in the name of the "national interests of the United States". But now the Americans themselves are victims of these globalist practices. However, this was to be expected, because if you start to use lies and violence, the time will come when you cannot stop using them, and when you reach a certain point, it will be lies and violence that will start to use you.



So our name is Ashley Babbitt. Yes, she participated in the imperialist wars promoted by the USA. But her sacrifice on 6 January 2021 represents more than the last service she has given to the American state and people. She has given her life to achieve real freedom and justice for her people. And freedom and justice are universal values shared by Russians and Americans, or Muslims and Christians, or Westerners and Easterners.



Also, we should re-evaluate our attitude towards technology. Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Apple, Youtube, FB, etc., are not just commercial tools that can be considered "neutral". They are ideological weapons and surveillance machines that practice censorship. We need to destroy them. We have to find a way out of this techno-sphere controlled by the globalists' madness. But the question remains whether we should completely dismantle technology as such (an ecological solution that we cannot ignore or reject completely) or whether we should develop independent networks that are free from the biased ideological control of the globalists and that have been permeated by their ideas. In the meantime, it is possible for us to move in both directions at once. The same goes for the media: they have shown us so far that they are really the only message that exists. A message that is totally one-sided.

I do not agree with the theories spread by many observers that the assault on Capital Hill was actually a provocation by the fifth column. No. This assault was the natural response of the other half of the United States against the Democrats: it is the half that has been humiliated by theft and election fraud. The Trumpists have shown us that there is no such thing as a liberal privilege of the left to organise symmetrical wars and use violence for political ends. If one begins to use violence, one must expect a similar response. The AntiFa and BLM started the riots. Capitol Hill was the logical response against them. The demonstrators proved to be strong enough to seize, by the use of force, a US Parliament that was dedicated to fraud and dirty tricks, while counting false votes that were made by people who were dead or letters that nobody ever sent.

At this time, our struggle has taken on a truly global dimension: we are in a war against the Democrats: we are in favour of this half within the United States and not in favour of the United States in general. This, in fact, changes everything. We must support the Heartland first and foremost, whether it is the American Heartland or the Eurasian Heartland. The geopolitics of the US elections in 2020 clearly reveal these borders: the Atlanticist, ultra-liberal, globalist coasts in blue against a conservative and traditionalist Heartland in red. The perverse blue against the conservative red.

The real struggle begins now. The fear the Democrats felt during the peaceful protests in front of the Capitol will become a reminder of something they will never forget. To see the ordinary American people, mostly people who have been dispossessed, kept silent and were considered "deplorable", marching on Congress has been a truly amazing moment. Meanwhile, the deputies hid under their chairs... showing who the real "deplorables" and cowards are. At this wonderful moment, these senators finally came to understand that they are no longer safe anywhere. They are experiencing what we have always experienced. From now on the Democrats will be attacked in all parts of the world. Now they know: we watch them exactly as they watch us; we follow them exactly as they follow us; we gather their information and create files on them just as the Democrats, the globalists and their puppets do with us. From now on, any connection with the Democrats, and support for them, will be considered as collaborationism and participation in their crimes against humanity. They killed thousands and hundreds of thousands outside the United States. But evil knows no limits. It is always based on hybris. So they have started to kill Americans too. Ashley Babbitt was just the beginning. This time, they plan to start a real genocide inside the United States. And this genocide has already begun.

There are only two parties in the world: the party of the globalists promoting the Great Reset and the party of the anti-globalists of the Great Awakening. And there is nothing in between. Between them there is only a chasm. And that chasm wants to be filled by an ocean of blood. Ashley Babbitt's blood is the first drop that has been shed.

This struggle has become a universal reality. It is represented by the US Democratic Party, together with the representatives of globalism: which includes all the high-tech industries, as well as the high financial spheres that embody, from now on, the absolute evil.

This great evil has built its base in the United States. And right now, in the centre of this same hell, the Final Rebellion, the Great Awakening, has begun.

One last comment: Trumpism is much more important than Trump himself. Trump has the merit of having initiated this phenomenon. But now Trumpism must go much further than Trump himself.
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Now for my own brief analysis. This whole process, as Dugin points out, has an international, global character.

So I think we should consider this. In the United States and in the world there is already a CIVIL WAR. Because the United States (and if we add other countries) is the centre of WESTERN CIVILIZATION.

It is civilization that is in civil war. Not just one country...
 
Bluegazer said:
Now for my own brief analysis. This whole process, as Dugin points out, has an international, global character.

So I think we should consider this. In the United States and in the world there is already a CIVIL WAR. Because the United States (and if we add other countries) is the centre of WESTERN CIVILIZATION.

It is civilization that is in civil war. Not just one country...
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Indeed, and this has been coming for some time. The sides are at last becoming clear to people, as Dugin very accurately described them.

Free humanity is at least starting to perceive, however dimly, the hidden forces that have worked so long and so patiently to perfect their enslavement. They can be likened to a tic: vastly smaller than the host body, and easily plucked off once clearly perceived.

The rub is that the parasite has managed to fully commandeer the greater part of the body politic, which in its deluded state is blind to the parasite, and perceives that part of the species trying to save the species as a threat to itself. Thus they will fight in the cause of their own enslavement.
 
From my perspective, we can intellectualize the argument, but at the end of the day. It is the age old battle the good guys against the baddies.

In my day and age that is what the six penny theater was founded on, the Lone Ranger, and all the rest of illusions. We cheered the goodies and boo's the baddies.

Now the reverse in true.
 
mbww said:
Sometimes inspiration comes from the strangest places, worth checking.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1348275231237038083
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Ha ha! Whew!

I don't know where your head is at, but.., Wow!

-While it put a ball of lead in my stomach, I think that was actually extremely important to see! Splash-of-water-in-the-face important.

Because it's easy to say, "The Left is crazy" like a mantra, all casual-like. -And to forget the fact that.., the Left is actually #$&# crazy.

The 'other side' believes the Terminator's narrative; they believe that they are the good guys, fighting Nazis! That's their daily reality. They aren't wise enough to measure a thing by the thing itself and not by the label pasted to it. They don't read the ingredient list on Life; they just look at the flashy promises on the box.

If we can't digest that, wrap our heads around it, walk in their shoes.., know thy enemy, then you'll be blind sided when the authorities come to pound on your door in the night. Objective Reality Left and Right is often by its very nature going to be a great deal scarier than where your foot is currently planted -if you're doing things right.

But damn...

Those idiots need to read the label. Did Trump ever suppress free speech during his four years? Did he go on cancellation rampages? Call for and condone civilian violence? Circumvent the law to punish his political rivals? No..? Who is doing that?

By their fruits we shall know them!

It's just amazing to me that the population is naive enough to really think that it's okay when they do it.

Gurdjieff once noted that the mental/emotional age of the average person is that of an 8 or 9 year-old. (And they're allowed to drive and use power tools because they're goofing around in adult bodies). Don't forget it for an instant. We're dealing with armed children.
 
Woodsman said:
We're dealing with armed children.
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Armed children with power tools... Like Lord of the Flies on steroids. I think the ultimate thing with the left is that anything and everything is justified "because Trump". Because Trump IS Hitler to them. The lowest of the low. This also plays into the scary vindictiveness and reprisals because they have no other focus or ideas; no constructive program. I asked somebody what is the left going to do now that Trump is gone? Silly me, I forgot they won't let go of their hatred for Trump and all of his supporters. Hating and demonizing the right is probably going to remain a major focus for the media. That's the worst part. We put up with complete and utter garbage from the left for 4 years. Sheesh, OK, you stole it; you got both houses and the Prez; now give it a rest and get to work fixing things since you act like you could do better... Nope, Not happening.

As for Trump. He and his team HAD to have war-gamed "what if they steal it". So I would think he has to have a plan B. And I would think there are so many spies and leakers and back-stabbers in his entourage, the left HAS to know his options he is considering. There have to be back-room discussions going on like mad. Like: who is willing to rat out the other side for what concession or gain or avoidance of persecution. He may even be trying to save himself.

The big problem is there are SO many rats. IF he triggers a sting where they start arresting people, where does he stop? Pelosi, Biden, McConnell are the big fish etc etc. I don't think he can get them all. And if he does this, there will be a ton of empty seats in the government to fill. And what about the media? Can they haul Zuckerberg, the Twitter Dude etc from their horses and drag them through the town square? (Racism systemic? How about Leftism is systemic)

And even if Trump could pull it off - what then? The WEF globalists will, IDK, dirty bomb DC and march in the UN - or just assassinate Trump. They won't let it stand.

Stay Tuned for the next exciting adventure - Trumpalorian!!
 
Heather said:
Wait. Remember, the army has many different players not all of them on board with Trump. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy I think was mentioned in the Greg Hunter interview with Alex Newman... I'll see what I can find.
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No, I was wrong. Newman mentioned former National Security Advisor, H.R. McMaster (member of Council on Foreign relations) as a snake in the grass -- not Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy.
bjorn said:
Take note ''Army identifies'' It's clear as daylight people. The military is not with the people. I suspect that many combat soldiers and vets support Trump. But if they want to side with the people when SHTF they either have to side with rogue generals or fall in line with the militias.

www.rt.com

Army identifies more possible threats as at least 25 ‘domestic terrorism’ cases are opened in connection with US Capitol breach

Prosecutors have opened at least 25 domestic terrorism cases against people who participated in the US Capitol riot, and the army has identified more potential threats as President-elect Joe Biden's inauguration approaches.
www.rt.com www.rt.com
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I'm not sure what you are meaning to say here. From what I can tell from your linked article and others that I looked at, McCarthy is not an adversary. He is doing his job.

Also, remember how screwy the information on all of this is. For example, here you have a democrat Representative from Colorado, Jason Crow, relaying the RT story, which is going to skew things (as always happens these days with the dems).

Here's an example of how the story of McCarthy's role in activating the National Guard in WickedPedia compares with the article below it from the Washington Examiner:

During the January 6, 2021, attack by Trump supporters on the Capitol while Congress was in session, DC Mayor Muriel Bowser requested additional backup from the D.C. National Guard, but received no response from the Pentagon. Mayor Bowser then contacted the governors of both Maryland and Virginia, frantically requesting that they activate their national guards. Although the governors eventually authorized their activation and their deployment to the Capitol, they were "repeatedly denied approval to do so."[13] Only until over an hour after the attack began did the Secretary of the Army [McCarthy] activate the D.C. National Guard, putting Vice President Mike Pence, members of Congress, and Congressional staffers in grave danger as the rioters stormed the Capitol, smashing windows, attacking the police, and vandalizing the building. Even as the rioters threatened the lives of both police and members of Congress, a number of news outlets noted the stark contrast between military style responses to the Black Lives Matter protests and the relatively lax security even though Trump had for months called for a "wild" day in the Capitol.
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Washington Examiner:

McCarthy claims Army ‘in the heat of taking back the Capitol’ did not delay National Guard authorizations​

by Abraham Mahshie, Defense Reporter |

| January 08, 2021 12:28 PM
Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy told a small group of Pentagon reporters Friday that he and acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller acted immediately to authorize a National Guard tactical response to the Capitol siege by pro-Trump rioters Wednesday, flatly rejecting a claim by Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan that such requests were denied or delayed.

"There was tremendous confusion. What is the situation? No one could give you adequate situational awareness," a visibly exhausted McCarthy told journalists in the media room at the Pentagon Friday morning.

“I was in the heat of taking back the Capitol,” he said. "We were literally running down the hall to SecDef’s office. We’re watching the TV in his office, green light, go. Move all the Guard, other states."

The assessment directly contradicts Hogan's claims on Thursday that he was “repeatedly denied” authorization to send Maryland National Guard troops to respond to the crisis situation unfolding at the Capitol.
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I recommend the whole article, actually, it's not long. In it you get a more nuanced understanding of the variables involved:

McCarthy claims Army ‘in the heat of taking back the Capitol’ did not delay National Guard authorizations (washingtonexaminer.com)

Nancy Pelosi's Laptop:

Actually, while I'm thinking about this, given the DOD was seemingly unaware that this false flag event was going to take place, it would be unlikely they would have sent in operatives to steal Nancy Pelosi's and possibly other Congress members' laptops, as per various speculations making the rounds right now. Of course, the decision to steal the laptops could have been made on the spot by DOD, I guess. Still, it seems unlikely. More likely is that Pelosi and others wanted to have their laptops "disappeared" just in case they fail to prevail in this election-stealing coup. Also, as per some of the George Webb videos, I recall this laptop stealing taking place not long after the capitol building break-in occurred, and so it seems this was a "top priority" -- something planned, in other words; not improvised by some DOD squad.

Other thoughts:

While I quite enjoyed listening to Simon Parke's take on things -- actually, here's an example of a source that seems just too good to be true. Listening to this kind-seeming man's thoughtful, elaborately informed exposition can't help but feed all of our "if only" fantasies, and turns Trump into an impossibly ingenious hero-commander in chief. Thing is, Trump is pretty incredible without all the embellishment. His very survival these past four years is testament to that. And while there may well be proof somewhere of foreign interference in this election, as many have claimed, the Vatican satellite version of the story seems rather, uh, far fetched. Or, to put it another way, it really needs some serious verification. Still, it was a great yarn while it lasted (!)

Anyway, as per Giuliani's recent statements (as conveyed by Greg Hunter), there is no need for a Vatican satellite to prove election fraud in real time (as it was happening) since Trump and team had the run-off election in Georgia to monitor. Would the bad guys actually pull the same fraudulent moves this time around? the intrepid team wondered. I mean, the Georgia crew had to have known there'd be some serious scrutiny. Nevertheless, seems they brazenly pulled a lot of the same maneuvers, maybe even with some new moves thrown in for good measure, which gave the Trump team a lot to work with.

So, some of what Simon Parke had said about Trump's needing the run-off election in order to get "real time" evidence may well be true. It just didn't happen to involve the Vatican satellites -- or as far as we know it didn't. No, the usual suspects as far as foreign interference goes are always China, Iran, a few other places.

Of course, the question remains concerning all of this: to what end?

Since such evidence could only be of value in a courtroom, it seems we're back to the idea of military tribunals. Hey, even if that never happens, that doesn't mean they weren't aiming for it to happen. Or else, why is the Trump team still doing all this?

You know, I do try to argue with myself against the idea of Trump taking military action, but I have a hard time coming up with an alternative scenario that I have any confidence in -- not based on his last statements, or his January 6th speech, or just his whole attitude.

Oh, one final thought: to those of you who watched his speech that day, did you notice that, for the very first time, Trump was behind bullet proof glass? I'm not sure anyone here has mentioned it. Not much mention of it anywhere.

JFK comes to mind. Interesting how JFK's legacy keeps being evoked among the military in relation to Trump.

Anyway, it's late... have to try to get some zzzzzzzzzzzzzz's...
 
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bjorn said:
Biden inaugeration speech. Just change the personal attack on the Emperor with the supposed coup in the capitool. And switch Jedi to Patriots, nationalist and Christians and you get the memo.
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It cut off too soon:

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BHelmet said:
I think I like the "hit the media kill switch" idea. Trump comes on the emergency broadcast network and says "See how it feels?" followed by...

ugh

Sigh - I think Trump is toast. Burnt toast. No butter. He is lacking both the strong arm support and the huevos to order Dorsey and Zuckerberg, Omar et al arrested and locked up. Too many enemies. Out-numbered and out-flanked. The take-over and real democracy in the USA: C'est finis. C'est un fait accompli.

I will keep watching with one eye but I have no hope - although, sometimes, that is what it takes to reach the point of "no anticipation" when things actually CAN happen!

(and Omar calling for impeachment is a hoot)
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@BHelmet,

Somehow I just posted your post with only the highlighted part. I was debating with myself if I should post about the "anticipation" reference because I did not want you to think I was singling you out to post. I have trouble with "anticipation" too and it is I think a difficult or "tricky" thing to understand and achieve "no anticipation" so with that in mind I'll give the following session as a reference.

Session 11 August 1996:
Laura said:
Q: (L) OK, we've been talking earlier this evening about intent, and of course, our own experiences with intent have really been pretty phenomenal. We've come to some kind of an idea that intent, when confirmed repeatedly, actually builds force. Is this a correct concept, and is there anything that you can add to it?

A: Only until anticipation muddies the picture... tricky one, huh?

Q: (L) Is anticipation the act of assuming you know how something is going to happen?

A: Follows realization, generally, and unfortunately for you, on 3rd density.

Q: (L) Is this a correct assessment of this process?

A: Both examples given are correct. You see, once anticipation enters the picture, the intent can no longer be STO.

Q: (L) Anticipation is desire for something for self. Is that it?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) OK, so it's OK to intend something, or to think in an intentional way, or to hope in an intentional way, for something that is to serve another, but anticipation defines it as a more personal thing.

A: And that brings realization.

Q: (L) So, desire to serve others, and to do something because it will help others, brings realization...

A: But, realization creates anticipation.

Q: (L) Well, how do we navigate this? I mean, this is like walking on a razor's edge. To control your mind to not anticipate, and yet, deal with realization, and yet, still maintain hope... (J) They said it was tricky... (L) This is, this is, um...

A: Mental exercises of denial, balanced with pure faith of a non-prejudicial kind.

Q: (L) OK, so, in other words, to just accept what is at the moment, appreciate it as it is at the moment, and have faith that the universe and things will happen the way they are supposed to happen, without placing any expectation on how that will be?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) This is, and I'm not asking about Ark, this is something that he has talked about in terms of shaping the future. He talks about shaping the future as an intentional act of shaping something good, but without defining the moment of measurement. In other words, adding energy to it by intent, but not deciding where, when or how the moment of measurement occurs. When the quantum jump occurs, it occurs on it's own, and in it's own way. Is this the concept he's dealing with here?

A: Anticipation.

Q: (L) In other words, is what he's talking about anticipation?

A: No.

Q: (L) Well, what do you mean, anticipation in response to what I said?

A: That is the key to shaping the future... Avoiding it.

Q: (T) OK, because we’re not anticipating in what we're doing...

A: Yes.

Q: (T) What we're doing is not anticipatory, it's just happening. We were talking about it on the way up, that with interactions with others, we are facilitating, we are creating reality. This is what they all say about reality.

A: When it hits you, it stops.

Q: (L) When what hits you? (J) The realization. (T) The fact that it's happening.

A: Yes unless you cancel out all anticipation.

Q: (L) Well, this is very tricky. (J) Well, hang on a second, I have a kind of a corollary question. The way I perceive what has happened with us in the campaign against the microwave towers; the article in the Times, and the editorial, and speaking to the people... The way I view it is that when things like that happen, I look at them, and the synchronicities tell me that I am on the right path. Is that a true statement, that they are an indication that I'm going in the right direction?

A: Semi.

Q: (T) It's a road sign, an indicator. (J) OK, thank you! That's good, it's an indicator. (L) OK, shaping the future... (J) In what way is it not? The answer was semi; part of it is true...

A: We have told you.

Q: (L) Well then it seems to me, excuse me in this one, it seems to me that Ark may understand this one better than I do.

A: Yes.

Q: (L) That's all I wanted to know. (J) So, let him teach you! (T) He'll teach you what you need to learn from him, and you'll teach him what he needs to learn from you! And as a result, you'll both gain!

A: Imbalanced upon the former.

Q: (L) What was the former? (T) He can teach you more, maybe, than you can teach him? Because he's farther along? Is this correct?

A: Close.
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Maybe @ark could help us learn how to do this better. It is "tricky" to say the least I think.
 
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