2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

Note: if you are doing this kind of research there's a lot of uncertainty. As @SummerLite said, sometimes a source can be intelligent and useful, but then you find out the person pays attention to Q -- Amazing Polly comes to mind. As most of us are aware, she was recently purged from Youtube. My sense of why she poses a threat and therefore was purged is that she is quite good at connecting the dots on things. That's a skill in itself. If there's one thing the PTB hates, it's someone with a knack for doing that, as it starts to reveal too much. On the other hand, her interest in Q put me on guard. And yet she was out there doing her own research -- it wasn't all about Q; not by any means.

Really, to do this kind of research you have to almost have a philosophy about source. Obviously, no one source is going to be perfect. But what you come to understand is what a source might be useful for. Monkey Werx gives you this compelling flight map to follow and think about, for example. However, you wouldn't turn to him for his interpretive analysis -- or only in a fairly limited way, based on what we are seeing on the flight map.

In other words, you start to get a feel for what a source's uses are, and what its limitations are. You also have to be on guard for misinformation, as always. But there's a difference between a well intentioned source making a mistake, or having certain shortcomings, and a source deliberately out to mislead.

In using discernment you can over time develop the ability -- subtle, at times -- to distinguish between the two. But we are ALL going to get tripped up at times.

Again as @SummerLite was suggesting, to discount what a source may be good for just because it falls short in another way isn't so great either. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, in other words. Again, no one source is going to provide everything you would ideally want. Just work on knowing who to look to for what sort of information.

Also, I think there is almost an art to staying of two minds with things. You need to be open enough to take on new material and try it on for size, at the same time you have to argue it the other way, see what its limitations may be. Even if you momentarily think you've found "a perfect source," you need to remain mindful that you might be being seduced, that you could very possibly be missing something. So, it's to remain open minded about both the pros and cons. That's the art of it, I'd say. And the discipline.

I don't think this thread has to have a perfect track record. We are all working to refine our discernment, and that's going to have some missteps. But that can also be how we come to improve.
 
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Yeah? And who will believe him? He's been consistently delegitimized, if that's a word. As far as I'm concerned, and you can say pamphlets printed against the crown in the 18th century would've gotten the job done, there needs to be violent action. The gauntlet has been thrown. Nothing is going to be pretty at this point, but inaction, that gets a participation, or not, award. I vote for our champion, because he's at the highest level. Nazi fascism 2.0 seems to be coming down the chutes. Hope not, but... Otherwise, see you in the camps. This is real and it will only get uglier. Declassify docs? Gimme a break. That's nothing.
Well, as I understand it, declassification means that the agencies that hold the said classified info are the ones doing the declassifying. Trump would just be the one who ordered them to do it. So, people can still decide they don’t believe, but then they would be in a clear state of cognitive dissonance, since they have no trouble trusting these same agencies on other issues.
I don’t think he CAN do it though, and as far as violent action, Trump’s not doing that. I’m pretty sure that he won’t be escalating the situation through use of force. I might be wrong, but that’s just my reading of the situation. He doesn’t have the support necessary to do something like that.
 
This is the sort of thing I’ve been talking about. The source is appallingly misinformed, and the forum member posting here is not doing their due diligence.
This has been the standard here for awhile.
Let me ask you guys, what’s the percentage of extraordinary claims posted on this thread that turned out to be true so far? I’d say less than 1% and there has been hundreds. I think that’s abysmal. Just today we had the Pope arrested, Trump signing the insurrection act, blackouts all over the place. What’s next? Pence murdered by buffalo horn guy? C’mon

I feel I'll have to empathize with you. I'm sorry that you are sometimes being let down by people who are working to unearth new information for your reading pleasure (or displeasure).
In these dramatic times you'll have to allow for some trial and error, I think.

When everything we do is so abysmal and appalling (and only 1% of it true) then what are your psychological needs that are keeping you here? I think I can sense your desire to do everybody down.

It would make a nice change if you could come up with some efforts of your own if only to raise our standard here.
 
Well, as I understand it, declassification means that the agencies that hold the said classified info are the ones doing the declassifying. Trump would just be the one who ordered them to do it. So, people can still decide they don’t believe, but then they would be in a clear state of cognitive dissonance, since they have no trouble trusting these same agencies on other issues.
I don’t think he CAN do it though, and as far as violent action, Trump’s not doing that. I’m pretty sure that he won’t be escalating the situation through use of force. I might be wrong, but that’s just my reading of the situation. He doesn’t have the support necessary to do something like that.
But you don't know if he has the support unless he tries it, so you're as much in the speculation boat as any of us. Wait and see. Less than two weeks. Love you all, either way. 🤗
 
The enemy has already struck. I'm not saying he should enact martial law but based on the moves of the past FEW DAYS, see Laura's post re knives, this is deadly serious. Whatever we think of DJT or what he will or won't or might or might not do, I still hope he makes a move, because the alternative is pretty clear.

I've been reading the posts and catching up and then took a break before reading sbeudry's post. I'm having thoughts somewhat along the same lines.

I like to read Kunstler and found this post worth reading, since he has a very sharp mind:


It is kind of like a 'Fog of War' type situation that we are in in terms of observing things from the outside. There really isn't much information coming out from Trump, but we have seen the moves that have taken place since Wed by the Deep State apparatus. Some moves being what Laura points to in terms of showing that a "Night of the Long Knives" possibly being in the cards and other things like impeachment, the 25th Amendment, all the social media purges, the media and industry leaders doing and saying what they are, whole platforms, such as Parler, being threatened etc, and Pelosi talking to the military about the nuclear codes, etc.

It is interesting that all of these moves are being done when Trump is still president. Either they are acting too soon and possibly making a mistake (showing their cards, even if Trump doesn't act and leaves office) or something may be driving them to take these drastic steps when they could have waited until the 21st, because to me it seems all the moves could be giving Trump a window of opportunity and possible actionable items, if there wasn't anything to act on before all this. But then we are back to the 'Fog of War' type thing we have going on and there really is no way to discern what exactly is happening, if anything is happening, besides what is being said in the controlled media and all the rumors of this and that that many have been posted here and elsewhere.

I still don't think anything is going to happen, and I would love to be wrong, and if something does happen then we would almost certainly, imo, not know anything until it is in progress or completed. So we might as well be as calm and patient and good to each other here as we can be. And I figure as the C's have said many times - "Wait and see" and "enjoy the show" even if we don't like how the show looks to be going at this point. And I'm saying that with acknowledging that I have been tense and anxious about it all and very much would desire an outcome that is positive from my perspective.
 
Well, I take it back; declassifying might be something, better than nothing, but I'm angry. I want Trump to go whole hog, but that might be worse than letting folks see what Biden/Harris will do. Either which way I'm feeling anxious, and honestly a bit scared. Things are progressing quickly. I'm nervous.
 
Well, I take it back; declassifying might be something, better than nothing, but I'm angry. I want Trump to go whole hog, but that might be worse than letting folks see what Biden/Harris will do. Either which way I'm feeling anxious, and honestly a bit scared. Things are progressing quickly. I'm nervous.
Right there with you regarding the anxious feelings- I absolutely did not expect all of this to go in this direction and have been riding the roller coaste of emotions since Wednesday- well, since the election really. I still fluctuate between wanting to move my family somewhere safer (if such a thing exists) and holding tight to see what happens. Difficult to say that I am "enjoying the show" but trying to stay positive and not let my emotions get the better of me
 
Well, I take it back; declassifying might be something, better than nothing, but I'm angry. I want Trump to go whole hog, but that might be worse than letting folks see what Biden/Harris will do. Either which way I'm feeling anxious, and honestly a bit scared. Things are progressing quickly. I'm nervous.

A declassification wouldn't accomplish much. They'd just ignore it, call anyone who didn't a conspiracy theorist, and move on like it didn't happen. These sociopaths don't care if the truth is out there; so long as the courts don't act on it, the media refuses to cover it, and their followers remain incapable of perceiving anything as reality that the media doesn't tell them is real, they don't have to care.
 
Take note ''Army identifies'' It's clear as daylight people. The military is not with the people. I suspect that many combat soldiers and vets support Trump. But if they want to side with the people when SHTF they either have to side with rogue generals or fall in line with the militias.

 
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Take note ''Army identifies'' It's clear as daylight people. The military is not with the people. I suspect that many combat soldiers and vets support Trump. But if they want to side with the people when SHTF they either have to side with rogue generals or fall in line with the militias.

Wait. Remember, the army has many different players not all of them on board with Trump. Army Secretary Ryan McCarthy I think was mentioned in the Greg Hunter interview with Alex Newman... I'll see what I can find.
 
Putin offers some beautifully inspiring, heartfelt words of hope.

Putin On Current Hard Times: God’s Love For Man Lies Not In Granting All Our Wishes But...​



God’s love for Man lies not in granting all our requests and wishes but rather in allowing us to pray to Him and for ourselves in the hope for the best. This hope and, occasionally, anticipation of a miracle is the very star that lights up our life’s journey and supports us in it’s hardest stages.

The Russian president is the only stateman confessing the name of Christ. Now you can understand why the Left, which is ravaging most Western nations, demonizes Putin and wants to destroy him.
 

(Full articule translated)

Analysis:

There are only two parties worldwide: Globalists of the Great Reset and anti-globalists of the Great Awakening.

By Alexander Dugin


Throughout history, Russia has had, and still has, many problems and conflicts that set our country against the United States, particularly on a geopolitical level. We have fought against each other on different sides of the barricades many times. But what is happening in the United States at the moment is something completely different. It is a question of principle.

Half of the US population is under the totalitarian rule of the other half. A real left-liberal dictatorship has come to power in this country. And in such a situation, we are forced to give our support to the half of the US population that is being oppressed.

Therefore, it is no longer an election as such: what has taken place in the United States is a coup d'état that was sponsored by a conspiracy carried out by illegitimate elites. The presidency of the United States has been hijacked. The United States is now under the control of an extremist board. They are now experiencing what is the Maidan or the Third World.

But the novelty in all this is that for the first time in history the globalists have used a scenario of a revolution of colour (which includes electoral theft, fraud and disinformation campaigns) in their own house. Then, they have finally fully discovered their face and we are able to observe them clearly. They used to carry out such practices in the name of the "national interests of the United States". But now the Americans themselves are victims of these globalist practices. However, this was to be expected, because if you start to use lies and violence, the time will come when you cannot stop using them, and when you reach a certain point, it will be lies and violence that will start to use you.

The struggle that is going on today has taken on a very clear international character. The struggle among the globalists against the anti-globalists is, today, much more important than the struggle of the Russians against the Americans, or the struggle of the West against the East, or of the Christians against the Muslims.

So our name is Ashley Babbitt. Yes, she participated in the imperialist wars promoted by the USA. But her sacrifice on 6 January 2021 represents more than the last service she has given to the American state and people. She has given her life to achieve real freedom and justice for her people. And freedom and justice are universal values shared by Russians and Americans, or Muslims and Christians, or Westerners and Easterners.

Then, our struggle does not have the character of a war against the United States. The United States we knew no longer exists. The division that has occurred in American society has become irreversible. And we are all experiencing this same situation everywhere, both inside and outside the United States. We are waging the same struggle on a global scale.

Also, we should re-evaluate our attitude towards technology. Microsoft, Google, Twitter, Apple, Youtube, FB, etc., are not just commercial tools that can be considered "neutral". They are ideological weapons and surveillance machines that practice censorship. We need to destroy them. We have to find a way out of this techno-sphere controlled by the globalists' madness. But the question remains whether we should completely dismantle technology as such (an ecological solution that we cannot ignore or reject completely) or whether we should develop independent networks that are free from the biased ideological control of the globalists and that have been permeated by their ideas. In the meantime, it is possible for us to move in both directions at once. The same goes for the media: they have shown us so far that they are really the only message that exists. A message that is totally one-sided.

I do not agree with the theories spread by many observers that the assault on Capital Hill was actually a provocation by the fifth column. No. This assault was the natural response of the other half of the United States against the Democrats: it is the half that has been humiliated by theft and election fraud. The Trumpists have shown us that there is no such thing as a liberal privilege of the left to organise symmetrical wars and use violence for political ends. If one begins to use violence, one must expect a similar response. The AntiFa and BLM started the riots. Capitol Hill was the logical response against them. The demonstrators proved to be strong enough to seize, by the use of force, a US Parliament that was dedicated to fraud and dirty tricks, while counting false votes that were made by people who were dead or letters that nobody ever sent.

At this time, our struggle has taken on a truly global dimension: we are in a war against the Democrats: we are in favour of this half within the United States and not in favour of the United States in general. This, in fact, changes everything. We must support the Heartland first and foremost, whether it is the American Heartland or the Eurasian Heartland. The geopolitics of the US elections in 2020 clearly reveal these borders: the Atlanticist, ultra-liberal, globalist coasts in blue against a conservative and traditionalist Heartland in red. The perverse blue against the conservative red.

The real struggle begins now. The fear the Democrats felt during the peaceful protests in front of the Capitol will become a reminder of something they will never forget. To see the ordinary American people, mostly people who have been dispossessed, kept silent and were considered "deplorable", marching on Congress has been a truly amazing moment. Meanwhile, the deputies hid under their chairs... showing who the real "deplorables" and cowards are. At this wonderful moment, these senators finally came to understand that they are no longer safe anywhere. They are experiencing what we have always experienced. From now on the Democrats will be attacked in all parts of the world. Now they know: we watch them exactly as they watch us; we follow them exactly as they follow us; we gather their information and create files on them just as the Democrats, the globalists and their puppets do with us. From now on, any connection with the Democrats, and support for them, will be considered as collaborationism and participation in their crimes against humanity. They killed thousands and hundreds of thousands outside the United States. But evil knows no limits. It is always based on hybris. So they have started to kill Americans too. Ashley Babbitt was just the beginning. This time, they plan to start a real genocide inside the United States. And this genocide has already begun.

There are only two parties in the world: the party of the globalists promoting the Great Reset and the party of the anti-globalists of the Great Awakening. And there is nothing in between. Between them there is only a chasm. And that chasm wants to be filled by an ocean of blood. Ashley Babbitt's blood is the first drop that has been shed.

This struggle has become a universal reality. It is represented by the US Democratic Party, together with the representatives of globalism: which includes all the high-tech industries, as well as the high financial spheres that embody, from now on, the absolute evil.

This great evil has built its base in the United States. And right now, in the centre of this same hell, the Final Rebellion, the Great Awakening, has begun.

One last comment: Trumpism is much more important than Trump himself. Trump has the merit of having initiated this phenomenon. But now Trumpism must go much further than Trump himself.
 
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