5th of November - V For Vendetta Day!

[acs]

After watching the movie I was/am a bit undone. I can't think like all of you do. I can't do it. I was fine before all of this...The Wave, Gurdjieff, psychopaths, sott.net, etc. I was doing so well. And now....no. I don't want this...

I wish you all well. Thank you for welcoming me here but I can't stay.

Connie

 

[Alana]

After watching the movie I was/am a bit undone. I can't think like all of you do. I can't do it. I was fine before all of this...The Wave, Gurdjieff, psychopaths, sott.net, etc. I was doing so well. And now....no. I don't want this...

Connie, what do you mean when you say, "i don't want this"? "This" what?

I wish you all well. Thank you for welcoming me here but I can't stay.

It's your choice of course, Connie, it just saddens me to see you go because you watched a movie. You said you liked it a minute ago. It boggles my mind!

 

[acs]

After watching the movie I was/am a bit undone. I can't think like all of you do. I can't do it. I was fine before all of this...The Wave, Gurdjieff, psychopaths, sott.net, etc. I was doing so well. And now....no. I don't want this...

Connie, what do you mean when you say, "i don't want this"? "This" what?

I wish you all well. Thank you for welcoming me here but I can't stay.

It's your choice of course, Connie, it just saddens me to see you go because you watched a movie. You said you liked it a minute ago. It boggles my mind!

I did like the movie. The acting was good. The content was fine. I responded because I wanted to thank Laura for responding to me.

 

[3DStudent]

Well I didn't get the time to watch V yesterday, but I changed my facebook avatar. But I just wanted to also do this:

 

[knowledge_of_self]

After watching the movie I was/am a bit undone. I can't think like all of you do. I can't do it. I was fine before all of this...The Wave, Gurdjieff, psychopaths, sott.net, etc. I was doing so well. And now....no. I don't want this...

Connie, what do you mean when you say, "i don't want this"? "This" what?

I wish you all well. Thank you for welcoming me here but I can't stay.

It's your choice of course, Connie, it just saddens me to see you go because you watched a movie. You said you liked it a minute ago. It boggles my mind!

I did like the movie. The acting was good. The content was fine. I responded because I wanted to thank Laura for responding to me.

I must say I'm a bit perplexed myself. What does "this" mean? We're not really doing anything other than watching a movie and discussing it. Unless you think we're gonna go blow up government buildings or something, which is not the case, I assure you... still I'm like

 

[acs]

I must say I'm a bit perplexed myself. What does "this" mean? We're not really doing anything other than watching a movie and discussing it. Unless you think we're gonna go blow up government buildings or something, which is not the case, I assure you... still I'm like

It goes beyond the movie. I've been discussing The Wave and The Fourth Way with a friend (who is also on this forum). We meet and discuss things. that's been going on for a month or two now and it is getting very difficult, very complicated, for me. Not him. The movie tonight was just the overwhelming realization that I can't do "The Work". It's very hard for me. I've had severe problems in the past with mental health and well, it's just too hard right now...The Work, The Wave, the psychopaths, all of it. I mean no offence to any of you. I'm the one with the problem.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

I must say I'm a bit perplexed myself. What does "this" mean? We're not really doing anything other than watching a movie and discussing it. Unless you think we're gonna go blow up government buildings or something, which is not the case, I assure you... still I'm like

It goes beyond the movie. I've been discussing The Wave and The Fourth Way with a friend (who is also on this forum). We meet and discuss things. that's been going on for a month or two now and it is getting very difficult, very complicated, for me. Not him. The movie tonight was just the overwhelming realization that I can't do "The Work". It's very hard for me. I've had severe problems in the past with mental health and well, it's just too hard right now...The Work, The Wave, the psychopaths, all of it. I mean no offence to any of you. I'm the one with the problem.

Hmm I see.. well this makes more sense than your vague post before.

I can understand where you're coming from. The Work IS tough- and the world/life is hard. I guess you're in that Cypher (from the movie The Matrix) mode asking your self "why oh why did I take the blue pill?" But the thing about the world is.. it aint goin anywhere, and neither will the psychopaths or anything else. I'm not trying to push you to stay here or anything, but let me tell you that I took a 2 year break from this forum after an event that transpired, it's outlined here if you're interested in reading it. Anyway, I pretty much gave up on the Work in those two years. Thought it was all too much and I just basically stopped caring. Then, life took it's toll and well I ended up even more depressed because I realized once you see the truth for what it is, there is really no going back- so well.. here I am.

One thing I did think about is perhaps your meetings with your friend is turning out into an unhealthy feeding dynamic. It's always better to network here when you're discussing these subjects. Everyone has a different opinion, and if it's not discussed in the open you may get the wrong impression of what is actually the point. Unless your friend is Laura, in which case never mind.

In the end, you will do what you will do. You know what is best for you, and your health. But I will leave you with one last cliche for what it's worth. "When the going gets tough, the tough get tougher".

Wish you all the best Connie.

 

[Alana]

One thing I did think about is perhaps your meetings with your friend is turning out into an unhealthy feeding dynamic. It's always better to network here when you're discussing these subjects. Everyone has a different opinion, and if it's not discussed in the open you may get the wrong impression of what is actually the point.

This was my thought as well, after reading your last reply, Connie. I don't know who your friend is, or what or even how much he understands of what this forum is about, what the work is about, and how he transmitted that to you through your conversations - i personally avoid talking about the work outside this forum, because i am not sure i Get It completely yet, and i need the networks eyes to watch my back when i type it here on the forum - but like Deedlet said, if you have any questions or concerns/worries, is best that you bring them here. This is the purpose of this forum anyway, to discuss these subjects all together, so we don't stray into subjective discussions, opinions and dynamics that are harmful to anyone's development, especially new people.

For what is worth....

 

[Laura]

The movie tonight was just the overwhelming realization that I can't do "The Work". It's very hard for me. I've had severe problems in the past with mental health and well, it's just too hard right now...The Work, The Wave, the psychopaths, all of it. I mean no offence to any of you. I'm the one with the problem.

Yes, it's true, a person cannot do The Work unless they are generally healthy. That's why we encourage people with mental health problems to see a competent analyst if they so choose. The Work is not for everyone though it can benefit everyone if those who are capable and willing to do it remember their responsibility and duty to our brothers and sisters who are weaker than ourselves and who need protection. You don't worry about it, it's no bad reflection on you at all!

 

[acs]

The movie tonight was just the overwhelming realization that I can't do "The Work". It's very hard for me. I've had severe problems in the past with mental health and well, it's just too hard right now...The Work, The Wave, the psychopaths, all of it. I mean no offence to any of you. I'm the one with the problem.

Yes, it's true, a person cannot do The Work unless they are generally healthy. That's why we encourage people with mental health problems to see a competent analyst if they so choose. The Work is not for everyone though it can benefit everyone if those who are capable and willing to do it remember their responsibility and duty to our brothers and sisters who are weaker than ourselves and who need protection. You don't worry about it, it's no bad reflection on you at all!

Thank you Laura. Thank you.

 

[Laura]

Yes, it's true, a person cannot do The Work unless they are generally healthy. That's why we encourage people with mental health problems to see a competent analyst if they so choose. The Work is not for everyone though it can benefit everyone if those who are capable and willing to do it remember their responsibility and duty to our brothers and sisters who are weaker than ourselves and who need protection. You don't worry about it, it's no bad reflection on you at all!

Thank you Laura. Thank you.

And tell your friend to quit torturing you with trying to force it down your throat! There are people whose job it is to just be sweet, loving and caring and it is the job of warriors to look after them. It's that simple.

 

[Chu]

Take care Connie! I think it shows a lot of strength in you to recognize when something (the Work) is not for you and say so. And your friend is not a very good one if he is forcing you to see the world the way we see it. You have to do things at your own pace and take the time to heal and feel better. We'll always be here if you are interested, but nobody should be forcing these things onto you nor anybody.

Safe journey!

 

[anart]

And tell your friend to quit torturing you with trying to force it down your throat! There are people whose job it is to just be sweet, loving and caring and it is the job of warriors to look after them. It's that simple.

If you'd like to contact a moderator with your friends name so we can explain that more clearly to him, please do.

 

[acs]

My friend and I do the EE breathing program together and I enjoy that a lot. He's a good guy. He really is. It's just I feel that he is so focused on himself and "getting to 4th density" that he doesn't really have time to empathize with someone else let alone someone who has had some mental issues. He doesn't really have time to acknowledge another person's life. Getting to the next level, detoxing, those things are more important to him than the person sitting right next to him. Being weak minded like I am, I wanted to please him and validate his goals and just forget about my own. That's weak I know.

It's not that I don't appreciate Gurdjieff on my own or The Wave series on my own. I do. It's just my perception is tainted by my life that when I read those things I get overwhelmed. For example when I read about Don (I forgot his last name) in The Wave committing suicide that completly froze me. I know what that state of mind is like...suicidal mindset. I didn't feel as if I could talk to my friend about this at all. He only seemed interested in doing the breathing and "staying on task." I don't blame him for that really. Afterall who is equipped to talk about mental health issues? Very few people and even fewer psychologist/psychiatrist. I rarely talk about it. My introduction here said nothing about it because...it's just too hard. It's not a state of mind I want to remember let alone invoke sympathy for. Yet, at the same time, I do feel a need for acknowledgement and perhaps that is my weakness too. However, Laura you and others here have given me that acknowledgement and that means a lot to me. It really does. I didn't expect it. I thought all of you would be like my friend, only focused on yourselves, getting to "the next level." So thank you. Thank you very much.

Again, my friend's a good guy. He really is. I don't want you to think bad of him. I certainly don't. He means a lot to me.

 

[Laura]

Connie, the only reason anybody should be doing anything like EE and diet is for the simple expedient of making sure they have the energy and resources to help others. That's IT. That's what it is about. Doing it to "get to 4D" is a very STS motivation.

If doing EE helps you, continue. If detoxing your body and following a detox diet helps you, do it. It can only help, and it is not required to engage in facing petty tyrants or standing up for Truth by everyone. There are all kinds and levels of service and you actually sound more grounded than your friend who you defend so loyally.