Hello again Laura;
After perusing the links you directed me to regarding
Project Camelot and Bill Ryan, I decided to write to him
directly to get a balanced perspective.
Below was his response, which he requested to be
forwarded to you. With this, I am content to leave
this topic altogether and move on to other more
edifying things.
Best regards,
Jack
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Begin forwarded message:
> From: Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy <****@projectcamelot.org>
> Date: April 3, 2009 1:26:53 PM GMT-07:00
> To: {Tomatochip}
> Cc: 'Kerry at Camelot' <****@projectcamelot.org>
> Subject: Re: Clarification Request
>
> Hi, {Tomatochip}:
>
> > She only directed me all the various links regarding Serpo, ATS
> and what she
> > described was a horrendous legal battle with your lawyer. This all
> > apparently, pre Project Camelot. One of the other moderators did
> likewise.
>
> Very frustrating, and I’m afraid Laura has it completely wrong.
> Laura was attacking ATS, and ATS were attacking me. She contacted me
> initially, and I turned to her for support. Abruptly, and for
> reasons I have never discovered or been told, she decided that I was
> somehow part of the same COINTELPRO that she accused ATS of being
> tangled up in.
>
> Ironically, I had always completely agreed with her about ATS and
> COINTELPRO, and had told her. I still hold the firm view, similar to
> Laura’s, that ATS is heavily government influenced. To this day I
> have no idea why she decided I was disinfo - which I was not, and am
> not. I am baffled... and at the time I was hurt and quite bothered,
> as I was under siege from all sides for daring to post the details
> of the Serpo releases with as much intellectual honesty as possible.
>
> Furthermore, there was no ‘legal battle’, and I never had a lawyer.
> The lawyer she’s referring to was Wayne Jaeschke, the ATS attorney
> at that time. His ATS username was ‘Centrist’. Jaeschke had faked a
> series of e-mails to Victor Martinez, in an attempt to find out more
> about Serpo on a fraudulent basis. He was pretending to be the Serpo
> insider source, mailing from a new e-mail address. Victor nearly
> believed him, but in the end (credit to him, because Jaeschke was
> very clever) smelled a rat.
>
> What Jaeschke did was very probably illegal (and certainly highly
> unethical) and he resigned from ATS after being exposed. No legal
> action - just huge embarrassment from him. He later lost his job
> with the East Coast law firm he worked for, as well, as a result of
> his fraudulent impersonation – conduct unfit for any lawyer, anywhere.
>
> I dropped out of Serpo after it became crystal clear that the long-
> awaited images provided to Victor Martinez, by a military source,
> were faked. That was in December 2006, and I stepped d back from it
> all in March 2007. The whole thing was a can of worms. I had a
> number of experiences, though - all documented on the Serpo site
> here...
>
> _http://www.serpo.org/final_update.php
>
> (A final Update from Bill Ryan, 5 March 2007)
>
> ... which convinced me there was fire behind the smoke. Read the
> story of the Serpo Old Man (an encounter with a purported ex-
> astronaut, which was nothing short of fascinating.) There WAS an
> exchange program, I am certain: but most of the details were
> probably different.
>
> Serpo was and is unconnected with Project Camelot. Camelot stands on
> its own merits. At Camelot, we report what we are told on record by
> our sources and witnesses, and add nothing. I added nothing to
> Serpo, either. I was merely the webmaster, trying to do as good as
> job as possible, but ended up receiving some releases myself and got
> to know some of the cast of characters such as Rick Doty and Kit
> Green, neither of whom I would trust, but who also did not ALWAYS lie.
>
> For instance, I met at length with Rick and Kit, separately, when
> they were both genuinely baffled about what was going on. I
> certainly attracted the attention of the intel community at the
> time... they could not figure out who I was or why I was doing what
> I was doing. It was very funny, in retrospect.
>
> Serpo was disinfo - and I had always (after an early stage) stated
> publicly that it was. The key part of that, however, is that some of
> it was true, which is highly significant. DISinformation is part
> truth, part invention. MISinformation is straight falsehood. Serpo
> was DISinfo. But even if only 10% was true, it was still an
> astonishing story.
>
> One of the problems was that the UFO community had no patience for
> anything that was not 100% solid - and this is understandable. They
> had previously been messed around too much, for too long. Fresh into
> the arena, I had no such history and thought it was all really
> interesting (which it is). I had a lot more patience, and much less
> personal baggage.
>
> Please do pass this message on to Laura (and the moderator you
> mentioned!) with my regards, and by all means post this anywhere you
> wish. I have no time or desire to join in any forums on this subject
> but am happy to answer your questions.
>
> With very best wishes, Bill
>
>
>
> From: {Tomatochip}
> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 12:44:14 -0700
> To: Cassidy Kerry <****@projectcamelot.org>
> Subject: Clarification Request
>
> Hey Bill---
>
> {Tomatochip} in AZ here. You may or may not recognize me....
> We've traded a few occasional emails in the past two years
> or so.
>
> I'm writing today to get your direct take on something
> here so that I can have balanced information:
>
> Recently, I was on the Signs of the Times website and signed
> onto their forum. I did so after being quite captivated by reading
> Laura Knight Jadczyk's online 'The Wave' ebook, and some
> other pretty esoteric material on the Casseoopian website...
> all of which I find to be quite in-depth, interesting (to say the
> least)
> and mind expanding. It's causing me to see things in a more
> dimensionally expanded way and also connects many dots
> regarding the true nature of good/evil.
>
> However...
> I was puzzled by the fact that there is a body of data on their
> forum there that seems to categorize you (personally) and
> the Project Camelot as 'shady' and 'disinformation'.
>
> This didn't sit right with me and I wrote Laura and asked
> specifically what she considered falsehood. She only directed
> me all the various links regarding Serpo, ATS and what
> she described was a horrendous legal battle with your
> lawyer. This all apparently, pre Project Camelot. One of the
> other moderators did likewise.
>
> Now, I basically don't wish to hear about peoples personal
> issues. It's not my business, and I have better things to put my
> attention on. But all this just doesn't feel right to me, and quite
> frankly, is way more drama than I wish to have in my life. In the
> spirit of just getting a balance perspective, I would like to hear
> your side of it.
>
> I try to keep a neutral position about all such things, as I don't
> know you personally and can only observe what you've said
> in your 'Big Picture' and 'State of the World' summaries - all of
> which strike me as a balance distillation of all the data obtained
> from the various interviews. And observing your interaction in
> the actual interviews doesn't reveal to me any hidden agenda.
>
> My impression of both you and Kerry and the work you are doing
> with Project Camelot is without any particular 'agenda' which I can
> discern. The information is very interesting to be certain... and
> actually validates much of what Laura has written in 'The Wave'
> as channeled through the C's. (such as the info that has come
> from Dan Burisch, Robert Dean, Jake Simpson and Henry Deacon).
> Seems to me that you are all on the same page, so what's the
> problem. It all smacks of the silly squabbling between various
> denominations of Christian churches I used to (decades ago!)
> attend, which caused me to get out of that paradigm altogether.
> "We got the right dogma over here, but that church over there
> is 'off'!"
>
> Anyway, just trying to get a clear, balanced view here. I think
> this kind of squabbling between groups that are basically going
> after the same thing: truth and knowledge, is kind of childish and
> I have a low tolerance for it and no desire to enter debates of who
> is 'good' or who is 'bad'. In my humble opinion, we ALL see
> through a glass darkly and human perception is always clouded
> to some extent by our egos. Also, is it not just part of the divide
> and conquer technique so commonly used to harness human
> beings?
>
> I prefer NOT to judge anyone in black and white terms, but do
> try to sharpen my discernment. I'd be interested in your thoughts
> on the matter.
>
> Jack
>
> PS: My girlfriend ****** and I are going to Montesuenos later this
> month.... inspired by what we saw in your recent seminar and
> are really looking forward to the trip. Any special points of
> interest you wish to share would be appreciated!
>
