Alzheimer and Soul development

Buddy said:
In New York City, there's a substantial population of not-too-formally educated immigrants that serve the home healthcare market and they talk about their experiences. Seems that the general consensus among them is that Alzheimers comes from "too much education". Their patients are mostly highly educated people, like Doctors, Lawyers, professors, etc.

Very interesting. It seems that the saying "use it or lose it" may have a deeper meaning. As long as something, be it life experience, knowledge of something, or anything else related isn't integrated and doesn't become a part of self (emotional development on the same level as intellectual?), it is lost when personality (or outer shell) starts to crumble.
 
Keit said:
Buddy said:
In New York City, there's a substantial population of not-too-formally educated immigrants that serve the home healthcare market and they talk about their experiences. Seems that the general consensus among them is that Alzheimers comes from "too much education". Their patients are mostly highly educated people, like Doctors, Lawyers, professors, etc.

Very interesting. It seems that the saying "use it or lose it" may have a deeper meaning. As long as something, be it life experience, knowledge of something, or anything else related isn't integrated and doesn't become a part of self (emotional development on the same level as intellectual?), it is lost when personality (or outer shell) starts to crumble.

Yeah but remember that the Alzheimer is the result of a poor diet through the years, no matter how educated or smart you are if you poisoned your body every day of your life. And as a result not only the deterioration of the brain physically, but the death or removal of some of the centers too as has been mentioned above.
 
irjO said:
Yeah but remember that the Alzheimer is the result of a poor diet through the years, no matter how educated or smart you are if you poisoned your body every day of your life.

Diet does indeed effect the head brain and also directly involves the gut. The gut is just as much a 'brain' as our head brain and both are directly connected via the vagus nerve. The state of one's gut, then, has a profound influence on one's psychological well being.

Chronic stress has also been linked to Alzheimer's:

How chronic stress causes Alzheimer’s, other brain diseases
June 30, 2011

Chronic stress has long been linked with neurodegeneration. Scientists at the University of Southern California (USC) have now found a mechanism: chronic stress (physical or mental) causes overexpression of the RCAN1 gene, in turn leading to neurodegenerative disease.
_http://www.kurzweilai.net/how-chronic-stress-causes-alzheimers-other-brain-diseases?utm_source=KurzweilAI+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=dfc47262ed-UA-946742-1&utm_medium=email

And since high stress levels often correlate to occupations requiring high education levels, here's an author offering a mechanism for relating highly educated people and Alzheimer's:

``The amount of nerve connections and information hubs are likely to be more numerous and more efficient in people who are highly educated,'' said lead author Nikolaos Scarmeas in his study. ``The subsequent impact is likely to be greater than it would be in less educated brains, because of the higher levels of accumulated damage.''

Source: Alzheimer's Progresses Faster in Educated People (Update1)
_http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=alzuc18R8oGc&refer=uk


I suppose that still leaves open the possibility that Alzheimer's can still be related to a person who is much more educated, as the anecdotes suggest, and adds to this the suggestion that a person at risk may be one who is very intellectually active in a way that has far out-paced their emotional involvement in life.

An active emotional center does seem to be a key to prevention or symptom improvement--at least for some people. As example, here's a story of person said to suffer from Alzheimer's and showed remarkable improvement by singing; an activity usually described as right-brained and involving emotion:

"I don't know what it is that changes in the brain when people with Alzheimer's sing, but obviously something does change and there is something very beneficial about it. It seems to kick-start something in the brain and has made such a difference to Bill."

How singing unlocks the brain
_http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4448634.stm

So, to tie back in to irjO's question:

...the question that i would like to ask to the Cs (and the rest of the forum) would be: Can affect Alzheimer disease the soul of an individual in any way?

The best I can answer is like this: 'soul' is mostly an esoteric concept and all I can investigate is the physiology of the organism. Personally, I would try and set aside any expectations based on my memories of her and try to be happy to experience my older relative as "a little girl again with her emotions", because she has emotions! And if memory serves, most of the spiritual traditions require a person to "become like a child" in order to "enter the kingdom", so to speak.

With this in mind, no matter how I may internally consider her, I'd appeal to DCM in my meditations and prayers-from-the-heart to keep her safe and then trust that somehow, all is as it should be, mysterious though it seems.
 
``The amount of nerve connections and information hubs are likely to be more numerous and more efficient in people who are highly educated,'' said lead author Nikolaos Scarmeas in his study. ``The subsequent impact is likely to be greater than it would be in less educated brains, because of the higher levels of accumulated damage.''

Source: Alzheimer's Progresses Faster in Educated People (Update1)
_http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=alzuc18R8oGc&refer=uk


I suppose that still leaves open the possibility that Alzheimer's can still be related to a person who is much more educated, as the anecdotes suggest, and adds to this the suggestion that a person at risk may be one who is very intellectually active in a way that has far out-paced their emotional involvement in life.

Oh i see your point! It sounds reasonable actually!

The best I can answer is like this: 'soul' is mostly an esoteric concept and all I can investigate is the physiology of the organism. Personally, I would try and set aside any expectations based on my memories of her and try to be happy to experience my older relative as "a little girl again with her emotions", because she has emotions! And if memory serves, most of the spiritual traditions require a person to "become like a child" in order to "enter the kingdom", so to speak.

With this in mind, no matter how I may internally consider her, I'd appeal to DCM in my meditations and prayers-from-the-heart to keep her safe and then trust that somehow, all is as it should be, mysterious though it seems.

Well.. my question is about a little expectations on the esoteric point of view if we talk about souls, sure.. And yeah is hard to answer this kind of things because How do we prove that we Really have souls? We can't.. We can just observe (and experience trough that) of course i think emotions its what Really connect us as humans, and this make me wonder many things in cases like this! :)
 
irjO said:
Well.. my question is about a little expectations on the esoteric point of view if we talk about souls, sure.. And yeah is hard to answer this kind of things because How do we prove that we Really have souls? We can't.. We can just observe (and experience trough that) of course i think emotions its what Really connect us as humans, and this make me wonder many things in cases like this! :)

Yeah, and I'm thinking the emotional center is the key. If this center were not related to "soul" then it wouldn't make sense to make it such a focus of Work, OSIT.

Sometimes it pains me when I can't find an answer to something, but at least I learn something in the process and have an opportunity to connect with someone via an issue of mutual concern or interest. Thanks for the feedback. :)
 
Hi i write here to let you all know that my grandma passed away this evening! :( i wish her soul find peace finally and i know she will.. This make me feel more committed to this forum and to this work! I hope Alzheimer never will be part of my life and the life of the ones i love again!
 
irjO said:
Hi i write here to let you all know that my grandma passed away this evening! :( i wish her soul find peace finally and i know she will.. This make me feel more committed to this forum and to this work! I hope Alzheimer never will be part of my life and the life of the ones i love again!

My condolences to you, irjO.
 
I'm sorry for your loss irjO. :( I also had a grandmother who passed away with Alzheimer several years ago and the other one just reached her 90th birthday last week but doesn't recognize anyone in the family and can't really speak anymore. It's a horrible disease.
 
So very sorry irjO for your loss, and thank you for writing about your Grandmother, it is never easy and hope you can find some comfort with her passing. :(
 
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