I had a computer program that was scraping news from
All over the world
And uh, they were in this this this
Program was in a building and the building was located
Actually in between Nashville and Franklin, Tennessee
Uh, it was on the borders of the counties
And I would drive there and I would go to the
Data center and the guy would put a disk
In my hand, and I would
Drive back home and load it
So I started writing and
I said this guy's a psychopath
And I wrote an article about it
I said he's a psychopath
And then I listed, you know
All of the characteristics
And then I said this is why, you know, you've got a
Psychopathic CEO of the United States
I called it the, you know
The CEO of the United States
And I and I documented it
And I said, okay
This guy's a psychopath, and he's a murderer, and he's a liar
And he's this, that, and the other
And I wrote this article, and I put it
Up, and I said, you know, I've been researching this
And I've been studying psychopathy
And uh, it turns out that a lot of
People in high positions of power are psychopaths
And it's the thing to be in our world
You know if you're not
A psychopath, you're nobody
And that's what's wrong with our world, and that's why
We're going down the toilet
And so I put this article up, and it went uh
It was like, you know, viral before the term viral
Because it was getting millions of hits
A day on that one article
And people were sending it to everybody they
Knew, and it was just absolutely crazy
And then I got a phone call from a man
And he identified himself as a psychiatrist
And he said to me, I read your article
On psychopathy, and I want you to know
That I had diagnosed
George Bush as a psychopath
Years ago, and nobody wanted to
Listen to me, nobody would believe me
But I want you to know that
You're right, and I want to help you
And I said, well, that's really great, you know
Um, so tell me more about this
And he said, well, you
Know, I'm retired now
But I used to work for the FBI
And the CIA
And I was, you know,
Pretty high up
I mean, he was a a high-level
CIA psychiatrist, basically
And so he and I started
Corresponding, and he was sending me
Information, and he sent me this book
Political Ponerology
And um, he also invited me to attend
An international political ponerology conference
Which was being held in
Canada
And um, I said, well, that's
Really interesting
But I can't really afford
To go to Canada
And he said, well, you know,
We'll pay your way
And uh, that was like, wow, you know
So that was my introduction to ponerology
And so I went to this conference, and I met
A whole lot of really interesting people
And uh, I met a lot of
Uh, Canadians who were just
Crazy over the fact that an American was
Willing to come to Canada to learn about their work
Um, and I got to meet a lot of people
Who had been working on the problem for years
You know, they they didn't really call it
Ponerology per se, but they
Knew that something was
Really, really wrong in the world
And um, I started reading the book
Political Ponerology, and I was absolutely astounded
And the first thing that I that
I thought was amazing was that
They had actually documented that there are two types
Of psychopaths
There's your regular
Psychopath
And then there's what they call
A characteropathic psychopath
And a characteropathic psychopath is somebody
Who has been shaped
Who has been made into a psychopath
By the society
And by the conditions and the traumas
And the brutalities and so forth
They have been subjected to,
And so I'm reading this book
And I'm realizing that that's what we've
Got here is characteropathic psychopaths
Because I'm also
Reading about
The the genetics of
Psychopathy
And the genetics of psychopathy say that
It is a trait
And you cannot say that
Somebody's a psychopath
Or a characteropathic psychopath because
They have this trait
But unless it's actually
Triggered
By some circumstance, some experience
Some encounter, you know, something
That happens to them
They will not
Necessarily become a
Full-blown psychopath
And so this this book was just
Absolutely amazing
And I have it right here, and I'm
Just going to grab it
And I just want to show
Everybody the book
I should have had it ready, but
This is a this is a copy of
The book Political Ponerology
This is the second edition
Which is the improved edition
And this book was written by a Polish
Scientist by the name of Andrew Lobaczewski
And uh, it was really difficult
For him to write this book
And in fact, he wrote it
In Polish
And he was he was getting help
From his friend
And his friend was
Sending him files
Of the work as he wrote
It and they were
They were printing these files, and
They were sending them out
All over the world, and
So it actually got published
And it's just a really you know
Interesting book
And um, it it has it has
A lot of
Really wonderful material in it that explains the
Nature of evil and the nature of psychopathy
And how this this
Condition arises in in people
Uh, because basically you know
As I was saying
When you have a psychopath, you know, they are
Born with a certain genetic predisposition
But it's not triggered, you know
Unless there's a certain trauma or a certain
Experience in childhood
Or in you know
Or maybe even later in life
That sets them on this path
And this book explains how it works, and it's just
It's really an amazing amazing book
And I'm just I'm just really grateful to have
Had the opportunity to read it and to
To understand what's going on in the world
Because it's really it's really enlightening
And uh, so you know, I I I
Just went on from there
And um, and my husband and I we continued
To write about politics and about psychopathy
And we continued to write about all
Kinds of other things
Because once you start down this path of
Researching and understanding
You know, the nature of evil, it's
It's like a rabbit hole that you can't stop going down
And you you just you start seeing
All of these connections and all of these
Patterns and and you know, it's it's it's really
Fascinating, and it's also really
Terrifying because you realize that the
World is not what it appears to be
And that there are really dark forces at play
And that you know
It's it's it's it's a it's a struggle
To to to try to understand it
And to try to
You know, to try to
To try to make a difference, you know
To try to to try to
You know, to try to
Help people understand what's happening
Because there's there's so much
Deception and so much manipulation
And uh, and it's it's really you know,
It's it's it's it's a challenge
But um, but it's it's it's something that that
We feel is important to do, and so we continue
To to to write and to research
And to try to help people understand
You know, the nature of evil
And the nature of psychopathy
And and how it's affecting the world and
And what can be done about it, if anything
So that's that's that's kind of you know,
The story of how I got into all of this
And it's it's it's it's been
A really fascinating journey, and
And I feel really privileged to have
Had the opportunity to to to learn
And to to to to understand and to to to to
You know, try to help others understand as well.
