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There is a voice over with Russian translation, but from what I could hear the conversation goes between a 'Nick' and a 'Mike' in English.
Since it seems quite unlikely it's real, for many reasons, I'm wondering if it's not Vovan and Lexus talking and then... handing the recording to Belarussian 'intelligence' or whatever.

Another possibility would be a trap with someone wanting to ridicule Lukashenko, perhaps even someone(s) from his own agencies (a deep-state-like group).

Yes, unfortunately the recording turned out to be exactly as you describe, PoB. In Russia, the media are either openly laughing or just politely ignore the 'recording'.
 

Keit

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I was watching this stream and discussion (in Russian) about yesterday's "Union march" in Minsk, and noticed several interesting things.

In the first pic you can see that most people were with the white-red-white "Pagonya" flag, but then in the second pic you can see a person both with the "Pagonya" and rainbow flags. Which is actually quite ridiculous, considering the fact that white-red-white flag is or was a symbol of Belorussian nationalists.

So that's another sign that Western "tolerancy" is hijacking the "revolutionary fever". Or at least they try to.

But at least there is also a hint that it isn't a majority, and in the third pic you can see that the person with the rainbow flag and his several buddies are quite aside and seperate from the rest.

And on the forth pic it's possible to see some people in masks.

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c.a.

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Article by: Belarus Feed

“This film is not fiction. This is what’s happening right now in Belarus – the country where law and justice haven’t been working for 26 years. My country.”
Pavel Supanenka, a Belarus-born filmmaker and sound producer, has created a video titled The Rise Of Belarusians To Defeat the Dictator to tell the world about all the events happening in his home country.

“Imagine you are waking up in the morning, going to a local bakery to buy some bread for you and your family, but you’ll come back only 15 days later as you’ll spend this time in jail. Imagine that you are walking down the street having the white strip on your wrist because you want to show to others that you support some idea, but you’ll wake up in the intensive care of the local hospital handcuffed with broken limbs and a smashed face you can’t recognize in the mirror.


 

AndrewMn

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Dear friends, after reading the posts in this thread, I would like to share my personal opinion about the current situation. This is a subjective opinion. But I want to be as objective as possible and rely on facts. Sorry if the post is too long.

1) Lukashenka falsified the election results. Objectively, he could gain 50-60%. The reason for the falsification (according to the former head of the President's pool, Dmitry Senchenko, is the desire to show the Arab "colleagues" the results they have (and there the support of the sheikhs reaches 90%. Now Dmitry is my colleague.). We had a lot of investments from outside Arab countries.
2) Falsification was the reason for the "awakening" of all "sleeping" fascist movements. The most active protesters are, as a rule, people from the Baltic states, Poland, Western Ukraine, where there were many fans of the fascist regime. But many protesters don't even realize what they are standing for! They are very skillfully manipulated, activating emotions and blocking the mind.
Thanks to clear financial and informational support from Poland and Lithuania, the "Western partners" decided to use Sharpe's methodology in order to create an additional hotbed of instability near Russia (on the eve of its elections).

Personal observation. People just use them as extras to solve their goals. We had problems in our country, but where are they not? Without outside influence, everything that happens would be impossible in principle. The absolute majority is now afraid to express an opinion against the protesters, because protests are becoming more radical.
All that remains to be done, as described in the sessions, is to observe. The world is changing rapidly. Now we too, in Belarus, calmly earlier, felt it. The best solution, in my opinion, is to try to understand what is happening, to understand the essence of the reasons for what is happening, and to form your own, best, reality.
I am sorry if my opinion has caused any inconvenience to anyone.
 

Nienna

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AndrewMn, that is a very interesting post. And you have caused no inconvenience to anyone here. Your observations are very interesting and most welcome. I am sorry that you are having to put up with all of the turmoil now happening in Belarus.

I would like to ask you to please introduce yourself in the Newbies section so we can get to know you a little better. Nothing really personal needs to be said. Just a bit about how you found the forum, if you're familiar with Laura Knight-Jaczyck's books and articles - things like that. If you are unsure about what to post, just look at how others on that board have done it. That should help give you an idea of how it is done.

Hope to be reading more of your posts. :-)
 

AndrewMn

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AndrewMn, that is a very interesting post. And you have caused no inconvenience to anyone here. Your observations are very interesting and most welcome. I am sorry that you are having to put up with all of the turmoil now happening in Belarus.

I would like to ask you to please introduce yourself in the Newbies section so we can get to know you a little better. Nothing really personal needs to be said. Just a bit about how you found the forum, if you're familiar with Laura Knight-Jaczyck's books and articles - things like that. If you are unsure about what to post, just look at how others on that board have done it. That should help give you an idea of how it is done.

Hope to be reading more of your posts. :-)
Thank you very much for your comment! I already very briefly wrote about myself in the section for beginners :). My post was there on Thursday, 10/15/2020 There may be very little information there. But, I hope, in the process of communication here - I will tell you a little more about myself. If it is appropriate and interesting to others.
 

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Oct 17
Locations of some of most important military objects in #Ganja, #Azerbaijan Ganja Air Base. #Turkish F-16's are stationed here since Aug. 2020. Air defense units - consists of a battalion of S-125s. Factories of Ministry of Defense Industry of Azerbaijan Internal Troops.

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The Wall Street Journal: An American official secretly visited Damascus to meet with the Syrian government
12:24 AM · Oct 19, 2020 عربى

Intermediate Results And Prospects Of Armenian-Azerbaijani War (Video)

19.10.2020 - #FROMTHEFRONT
6-7 minute Read. Snip: Video/ -5:49
The Armenian-Azerbaijani war, which started on September 27, continues in the contested Nagorno-Karabakh region despite international diplomatic efforts to de-escalate the conflict. Offensive operations of Azerbaijani forces continue at the same time as the Azerbaijani government claims that it is committed to the ceasefire regime. The first humanitarian ceasefire entered force in Karabakh on October 10 and collapsed on the next day, while the second one started on October 18 with the same result. The Armenian side also insists that it is committed to the ceasefire while simultaneously conducting counter-attacks against the advancing Azerbaijani forces.

For the Armenian side, the situation is further complicated by the fact that the current Armenian leadership is not ready to (or does not want to) employ all of its means and forces to fight back the Azerbaijani advance. Instead of this, Armenian forces involved in the conflict are limited to those of the Nagorno-Karakbah Republic.

The government of Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has so far limited its support to Karabakh to supplying weapons, sending volunteers (instead of regular forces), complaining in the media and calling on other countries to recognize the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic as an independent state, while Armenia itself has made no steps in this direction.

As of October 19, the situation on the frontline demonstrates that the Azerbaijani-Turkish side has been slowly but steadily taking an upper hand in the war. Azerbaijani forces have achieved a series of tactical successes in the northern and southern part of the region, capturing two dozen small towns and villages. The most important of them are Fuzuli, Jabrayl, Hadrut, Madaghis and Talish. Azerbaijani forces also advanced in the direction of the Khudaferin Reservoir.

Armenian (Fox News Search)
 
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Erdogan Claims Russia, US, France Are Arming Armenia, Russia Raises Issue of Pro-Turkish Terrorists in Artsakh (VIDEO)

ANKARA/MOSCOW – Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan claimed that Russia, the United States, and France are allegedly supplying weapons to Armeni
“What are they saying about our support to our Azerbaijani brothers? What are the Minsk three – the United States, Russia, France – saying? They support Armenia. They offer all possible support in terms of weapons,” he said on Sunday, TASS reported.

Renewed clashes between Azerbaijan and Armenia erupted on September 27, with intense battles raging in the disputed region of Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh). The area experienced flare-ups of violence in the summer of 2014, in April 2016 and past July. Azerbaijan and Armenia have imposed martial law and launched mobilization efforts. Both parties to the conflict have reported casualties, among them civilians.

Following Russian-initiated peace consultations in Moscow, Azerbaijan and Armenia agreed on a humanitarian ceasefire from 11:00 Moscow time on October 10 to exchange prisoners and the bodies of those killed. However, the ceasefire has been violated multiple times since then.

Russia is also raising the issue of pro-Turkish terrorists from Syria and Libya, who are taking part in the Nagorno-Karabakh war, in its contacts with Turkey, and stresses that it is unacceptable to get them involved, Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov said on Monday. (continued):

 
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