Bomb attacks in Brussels Airport and metro station

[Laura]

I like to make this additional comment if I may.

The specific issue being discussed, is a fairly recent phenomenon. I've been active on this forum for the last 5 years. (And reading it for another 3 years prior -- for a total of 8 years.)

I've never previously seen a situation, where full news articles (in quantity and mostly on one topic) were posted day after day after day. Bordering on saturation. (Some articles highly relevant ... others not so much. And some, downright deceptive.)

To the best of my recollection, this has never happened before -- on any topic, or thread.

Some find this useful (and I respect those opinions). But as Laura noted, others have expressed numbness, and disillusionment. To the point of refusing to read anymore of this stuff. (I feel this undercurrent.)

The C's have warned repeatedly against these attitudes of despair. We all know this well.

So my question is: why is this happening? At this mature stage of our learning curve? And is the information overload here intentional -- driven by some source unbeknownst to any of us?

This may be a relevant question to ask.

But I could be very very wrong.

FWIW.

This is happening because things are changing. As I've noted elsewhere, the day may come when we have to close off any political commentary on sott and perhaps make the forum members only. In that case, having an archive here will be useful.

Another reason is that it seemed to me to be useful to expose forum members to the same reality that the sott editors face: going through this sort of thing day by day by day; they may read (or scan) ten articles of which only one will make it onto sott. But THEY are still exposed to all of it. It is a process that we have found to be invaluable in many ways. Not only do you have to hone your discernment, you have to deal with your emotions that can be overwhelming in the face of such a barrage of - well, evil; it becomes a kind of inoculation.

So, basically, what I am saying is that in this way, forum members who cannot - for various reasons - commit to working on sott and the growth potential it offers, can still participate in the process somewhat. After all, paying close attention to reality right and left is what is being done here.

 

[sitting]

Hi angelburst29,

Thank you for your reply. And I really do appreciate this opportunity for a meaningful exchange.

A lot of what you say is true. I have this habit of firing off short sentences. This can annoy many people. And it can come across as unduly harsh and unfair. I'm aware of this issue and am working on it.

The reason for my "utter nonsense" remark is based on a wider perspective, guided by what the C's have said -- for many years now. A game changing event (like the Brussels bombing) does not originate from a guy like Erdogen.

This decision comes from much much higher. My guess is it's from right near the apex of the Consortium. And we all know who that bunch is. To state otherwise is honestly missing the point -- in my opinion.

As clarity & awareness being crucial elements in this titanic battle for minds, my tolerance for what I think is misplaced information & beliefs have become less and less. Hence some of my intemperate remarks.

I want you to know this is not personal. I really do admire your efforts. It's a lot of hard work you've put in. My wish is we all can communicate better ... so as to better figure out this present stupendous challenge we call life.

I hope this makes things more clear.

FWIW.

 

[sitting]

Hi Laura,

I wrote my reply to angelburst29 before I came upon your last post.
What you say is true. And I will take your various suggestions to heart. Thank you for your comments.

 

[SeekinTruth]

I agree with both points, in a way. As Laura pointed out all the potential benefits from angleburst29's efforts ARE rather obvious and appreciated. What sitting is getting at is also important to pay attention to. In the end, we all have limited time and energy to go through all the data that accumulates all day, every day.

Perhaps it would help if angleburst29 just adds a few comments here and there to set the context of what she's posting about (including any "truthifying" of obviously misleading or misdirecting aspects - just short phrases even, when it's necessary to point out something important). If I had more time to stay caught up with everything important, I'd make comments about some of the articles to point out obvious misdirections (which sometimes aren't even necessary, BECAUSE they're so obvious), but more importantly, when something is given too much weight when considering the broader context. But, alas, I don't often have enough time and energy to do so, after reading so many long articles, and having other things I'd like to read before getting offline.

I do think it's important to not overplay the roles of any of the characters, such as Erdogan, in terms of their importance in the overall scheme of things. This is most important for newbies and those who just might read and never comment on the forum.

Just wanted to say that I also appreciate the efforts of angleburst29, most of it is quite helpful and useful. Just a bit of extra commentary might help put things into better perspective and get others to open up discussion if they are inclined. FWIW.

Hope this helps in some way in continuing what is helpful and what can be improved with just a little more time, if it's at all possible. Oh, also, it's OK to make mistakes and get feedback for how to improve what any of us are doing, obviously. So no need to take anything personally or cast anything in an overblown way. I.E. I think that both points of view - sitting's and angleburst29's - have validity, and both sides communication can be improved/corrected for the benefit of all.

 

[Hesper]

So, basically, what I am saying is that in this way, forum members who cannot - for various reasons - commit to working on sott and the growth potential it offers, can still participate in the process somewhat. After all, paying close attention to reality right and left is what is being done here.

I find it helpful to see all of the information that angelburst29 collects in one place. Sure it isn't as organized as it is on SOTT, but with a bit of effort it does help to see the bigger picture of what the heck's going on on this crazy planet.

Just wanted to say that I also appreciate the efforts of angleburst29, most of it is quite helpful and useful. Just a bit of extra commentary might help put things into better perspective and get others to open up discussion if they are inclined. FWIW.

I think the onus is on us as well.

There's a development in Belgium: a nuclear security guard has been found dead, his access badge stolen. It seems that someone is really pulling out all the stops to make sure Europe remembers 'why they need us'.

https://www.rt.com/news/337276-belgium-nuclear-guard-killed/

 

[Gawan]

There's a development in Belgium: a nuclear security guard has been found dead, his access badge stolen. It seems that someone is really pulling out all the stops to make sure Europe remembers 'why they need us'.

https://www.rt.com/news/337276-belgium-nuclear-guard-killed/

Yes, some people do very well in spreading fear and keeping that fear heated up. Even in Germany copycats or even payed agents are doing their game and creating bomb threats at train stations or leaving bags at stations again and I think we will see much more of it in Europe and worldwide again as it happened after November after the Paris attacks. Also imo I get the feeling it is getting more and more and even the terror attacks happen in shorter time spans.

 

[Tigersoap]

There's a development in Belgium: a nuclear security guard has been found dead, his access badge stolen. It seems that someone is really pulling out all the stops to make sure Europe remembers 'why they need us'.

https://www.rt.com/news/337276-belgium-nuclear-guard-killed/

Just a quick note about the article :

The newspaper who leaked this is the well known "La dernière heure" which is far from being an "objective" newspaper, especially when it comes to report about muslims or anything that could scare the population. It's in the same league as the Sun newspaper.

The guard was killed in his bathroom, not outside, & the dog was killed as well.
The badge wasn't stolen unlike it's said in the RT article.

 

[seek10]

I like to make this additional comment if I may.

The specific issue being discussed, is a fairly recent phenomenon. I've been active on this forum for the last 5 years. (And reading it for another 3 years prior -- for a total of 8 years.)

I've never previously seen a situation, where full news articles (in quantity and mostly on one topic) were posted day after day after day. Bordering on saturation. (Some articles highly relevant ... others not so much. And some, downright deceptive.)

FWIW.

This is how I felt or see it. Before US poked the bear in the Ukraine, we all seen the cointelpro in its various colors in different countries one after other without much hope. It is like a predictable script that is running as if nothing can change. At least we are all glad there are some avenues(like the forum/sott) persisted to show that. After the poking, Bear started showing overt innovation in lining up different countries including Turkey, countries under the BRICS umbrella, expanded to SCO, aligning with China that came with its long involvement in Africa etc and it looked it is consolidating the so called alternative, though I was still skeptical any things can change.

With the Putin's intervention in Syria, every thing got ramped up to completely new level making geopolitical game unpredictably dangerous- like walking on the edge of a sword without a break in between. Well, Bear managed it very well despite the turkey's shooting down of its plane. In fact, it used the incident to its advantage in isolating Turkey and that came with lot of counter moves and events went into overdrive. I too find it sometimes overwhelming to catch up the events. I find reading the bolded text in the articles useful in the first pass. Some times I find my self catching south-front video's as if i am addicted to "War" game. It is like catching up the news of your favorite sports team's progress - with a emotional investment in its success, but with a cautious fear that it may lose it. This remind me a quote from the book The power of positive thinking: It is not hard work that drains off energy but emotional upheaval.

Bear showed so much resilience in its game, I find it rather pleasant to watch. Well, it is what it is. We are still here expressing our glee, frustrations and most importantly communicating with a courage which we didn't have before.

 

[luke wilson]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-shopkeeper-murdered-hours-after-posting-easter-message-a6952721.html

A devout Muslim shopkeeper was savagely killed in the street shortly after posting an Easter message “to my beloved Christian nation”.

Asad Shah, 40, died from injuries sustained in the attack on Thursday night in which his killers are believed to have stabbed him and stamped on his head. Medics tried to save him but he died in hospital.

 

[happyliza]

A friend who lives in our village here in North Cyprus has just been sent home, and others he worked with as a contractor oil/gas, also home until further notice.

He was in Algeria and told me 'al quaida' had some pop shots at the gas lines and one has exploded.

He also said he asked a general friend over there how they get people to talk through torture ( as they have caught a couple of the terrorists). His reply was: "we take out one of their eyes, and they talk before losing the other one" !!

They are not sure whether they have jobs to go back to. Also in general the industry is cutting the wages and increasing the hours big time.

Not seen anything mentioned so far.

 

[luke wilson]

Are the terror attacks a form of social engineering on the European population?

_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orval_Hobart_Mowrer

During the late 1930s Mowrer began experimenting with the use of electric shock as a conditioning agent. At the time, most psychologists agreed with William James that fear (in this usage, synonymous with anxiety) was an instinctive response. Mowrer suspected fear was a conditioned response and designed a way to create fear in the laboratory.[11] The unusually generous funding available at the institute allowed him to use human subjects for the first time. The subjects were attached to galvanic skin response recorders and to electrodes which could deliver an electric shock. They were then exposed to a light stimulus which was sometimes (randomly) followed by a shock.[12] Mowrer discovered two unexpected phenomena. There was a substantial galvanic stress response to the first presentation of the light stimulus, before any shock had been administered. The anticipation was apparently more aversive than the shock, which would not have been predicted by traditional behavioral theory. Mowrer also noticed that after each shock the subjects experienced a marked degree of relaxation.[12] Together with fellow psychologist Neal Miller, Mowrer gives his name to the "Miller-Mowrer Shuttlebox" apparatus.[13]

Using animals in similar experiments, he found that a cycle could be produced in which the subject became more and more responsive to conditioning.[12] He concluded that anxiety was basically anticipatory in nature and ideally functions to protect the organism from danger. However, because of the circumstances of conditioning, the degree of fear is often disproportionate to the source. Anxiety can be created artificially, and relief of anxiety can be used to condition other behaviors.[14] Mowrer's term for the state of expectancy produced by carefully timed aversive stimuli was the "preparatory set," and it was foundational to his later thinking in both learning theory and clinical psychology.

_http://blog.sysbase.org/social-engineering-an-autodidacts-guide-part-i/

The latter was proven by Hobart Mowrer’s Preparatory Set; an electrical shock was commissioned on volunteers whenever a light bulb was switched on. Mowrer then commissioned the shocks in an unpredictable manner; without the light bulb as an indicator. The revelations from the experiment showed that anxiety levels were higher when the shock was not inflected–the anticipation for the shock generated a form of “nervous breakdown”. When the shock was inflected, subjects felt relieved. Mowrer explained this phenomenon as the creation of atmospheric pervasive fear–terror–and that it was the ultimate demoralization of behaviour(Mowrer, 1983).

Frustration-Aggression-Displacement Theory

_https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frustration%E2%80%93aggression_hypothesis

Frustration–aggression hypothesis, otherwise known as the frustration–aggression–displacement theory, is a theory of aggression proposed by John Dollard, Neal E. Miller et al. in 1939,[1] and further developed by Miller, Roger Barker et al. in 1941[2] and Leonard Berkowitz in 1969.[3] The theory says that aggression is the result of blocking, or frustrating, a person's efforts to attain a goal.

The frustration–aggression hypothesis attempts to explain why people scapegoat.[5] It attempts to give an explanation as to the cause of violence.[6] The theory, developed by John Dollard and colleagues, says that frustration causes aggression, but when the source of the frustration cannot be challenged, the aggression gets displaced onto an innocent target.

There are many examples of this. If a man is disrespected and humiliated at his work, but cannot respond to this for fear of losing his job, he may go home and take his anger and frustration out on his family. This theory is also used to explain riots and revolutions. Both are caused by poorer and more deprived sections of society who may express their bottled up frustration and anger through violence.[6]

According to Yale Group, frustration is the "condition which exists when a goal-response suffers interference," while aggression is defined as "an act whose goal-response is injury to an organism (or organism surrogate)." However, aggression is not always the response to frustration. Rather a substitute response is displayed when aggressive response is not the strongest on the hierarchy. Furthermore, this theory raises the question if aggression is innate.[7]

However, this theory has some problems. First, there is little empirical support for it, even though researchers have studied it for more than sixty years.[5] Another issue is that this theory suggests frustrated, prejudiced individuals should act more aggressively towards outgroups they are prejudiced against, but studies have shown that they are more aggressive towards everyone.[5] The theory also has limitations, for example it cannot say why some outgroups are chosen to be scapegoats and why others are not.

Look at one of developers of the theory...

Neal E. Miller

Miller's early work focused on experimenting with Freudian ideas on behavior in real-life situations. His most notable topic was fear. Miller came to the conclusion that fear could be learned through conditioning. Miller then decided to extend his research to other autonomic drives, such as hunger, to see if they worked in the same way.[9] His unique ideas and experimental techniques to study these autonomic drives resulted in findings that would change our ideas about motivations and behavior.

Miller was also one of the founding fathers behind the idea of biofeedback. Today, many of his ideas have been expanded and added to, but Miller has been credited with coming up with most of the basic ideas behind biofeedback. Miller was doing experimentation on conditioning and rats when he discovered biofeedback.

Neal Miller, along with John Dollard and O. Hobart Mowrer, helped to integrate behavioral and psychoanalytic concepts.[10] They were able to translate psychological analytic concepts into behavioral terms that would be more easily understood. Specifically, they focused on the stimulus-response theory. These three men also recognized Sigmund Freud's understanding of anxiety as a "signal of danger" and that some things in Freud's work could be altered to fix this. Miller, Dollard and Mowrer believed that a person who was relieved of high anxiety levels would experience what is called "anxiety relief". Together with fellow psychologist O. Hobart Mowrer, Miller gives his name to the "Miller-Mowrer Shuttlebox" apparatus.[11]

Over the course of his career, Miller wrote eight books and 276 papers and articles.[9] Perhaps the most famous was Personality and Psychotherapy. Neal Miller worked with John Dollard and together they wrote this book concerning neurosis and psychological learning concepts.

I rarely watch TV as broadcasted by the big co-operations so I'm not to sure what they beam out nowadays. For easter, I went to visit my parents and as you would expect the TV was on and all there was, was news and programmes about the attacks. In watching these, I noticed that all sorts of techniques were being used to basically heighten the fear/anxiety level and even paranoia level in the viewer. Europe was under full blown attack! Carnage was raining down on the streets! The security forces had lost all form of control! Chaos, mayhem and anarchy would descend.... RUN FOR THE HILLS, HIDE UNDER A ROCK, IMPLODE IN FEAR/FRUSTRATION/ANGER. It was like they were implanting in you this huge state of emotion but there was no outlet, you just had to stew in it.... I don't wish to downplay the magnitude of the recent terror attacks but in my mind I was thinking, this is blowing it all out of proportion, making it appear like it's the number 1 cause of death, suffering and everything that is generally to be considered bad in European life.... There is so much frustration that has been built up in the surrounding communities, culminating in the populations impotence to do anything about the refugee crisis which ratcheted up the frustration in particular places to astronomical levels.... now with some random attacks here and there... a state of pervasive fear is being instituted.... they are coming after you, they are coming after women (cologne), they are coming after everything including your soul !!! It all reeks of a perfectly executed scientific theory or combination of, being implemented upon an unsuspecting public who are being toyed and played with, to ends that will most likely not be pretty at all....

This same public will then probably become the instigators of violence and aggression towards god-knows-who.... I still stand by my theory about Germany getting a Paris/Brussels treatment at some point if the pattern is that of escalation of tensions to some cathartic culmination, to me it seems the perfect place to set off the perfect storm.

 

[Buddy]

Are the terror attacks a form of social engineering on the European population?

Hi luke. Psychiatry does indeed have a version of the shock doctrine in its use of electroshock. Naomi Klein talks about a version related to disaster capitalism and Martha Stout also talks about it in these terms, if you haven't seen this:

Limbic Warfare and Martha Stout's "Paranoia Switch"
http://www.sott.net/article/142725-Limbic-Warfare-and-Martha-Stouts-Paranoia-Switch

Using ideas from the article: The media's behavior that you describe, intentional or not, is the process of effectively using limbic resonance to spread a localized trauma throughout a population, making trauma contagious. 'Leaders' can then come along to exploit the contagion, basically "pounding the paranoia switch" which results in a group's fear level staying over the top for a long time. During this time, whether the leaders are competent or not, the effect is that the perceived authority holds. The effects on whole nations can be to make them ripe for pathocracy, or at least large-scale social changes the exploiters may want.

 

[Ennio]

Another reason is that it seemed to me to be useful to expose forum members to the same reality that the sott editors face: going through this sort of thing day by day by day; they may read (or scan) ten articles of which only one will make it onto sott. But THEY are still exposed to all of it. It is a process that we have found to be invaluable in many ways. Not only do you have to hone your discernment, you have to deal with your emotions that can be overwhelming in the face of such a barrage of - well, evil; it becomes a kind of inoculation.

Just wanted to add that I've had the opportunity to work on Sott for the last two years. Prior to that, I was an avid reader and contributed a few original articles. But I have to say that working on Sott regularly has so far been a much different experience than mostly reading it. For one, there seems to be in me a more intimate (for lack of a better word) connection to the information. Like it hits closer to home somehow - which is sometimes really hard. But the other side to this is that the news we're sharing can be commented on, truthified or enhanced. And when we do this we enable ourselves to say the things there that we'd never be able to say to those friends and family (or to many people in general) who we know just don't have the 'ears to hear'. In this respect, even though the information is sometimes really difficult to read, much less process, working on Sott feels like something of therapy.

So, basically, what I am saying is that in this way, forum members who cannot - for various reasons - commit to working on sott and the growth potential it offers, can still participate in the process somewhat. After all, paying close attention to reality right and left is what is being done here.

On the subject of your (Luc's) mentioning feeling numb to the recent carnage in Brussels, we discussed it yesterday on the Truth Perspective and I hope that you, Luc, and others listen in (if you haven't). But I also want to add here that finding an outlet for the expression of such feelings (and you put them very succinctly I thought), and which are informed by the truth and reality of things, is powerful. So it may be helpful for yourself and others to work through it further here - or via the social networks, or even write a comment to an article you see on Sott to add to the social proof - to give your very knowledgable views some greater expression, and assist others in seeing what you do.

One of the things we talked about was what it might take - what story or piece of information which may get widely shared - that would help people reach a tipping point in perception about the powers that be (and ultimately help to reach 'critical mass'.) Well, in some ways, this speculation is kind of useless because we just cannot predict how that might come about. However and whenever it is though, or even if its just through the sheer body and weight of true information that gets shared and helps with this, I think there's a good chance it will be informed by the thinking, emotions and values of us here, and our work in sharing it here and with greater numbers of people.

 

[Tigersoap]

"Far-Right Hooligans" Clash With Riot Police At Anti-ISIS Protests In Brussels

Protesters and demonstrators gathered in the Place De la Bourse on Sunday and riot police were forced to step in when far-right activists pushed out Belgians bearing flowers and lighting candles.

"We don't believe in candles and flowers. That is for the dead," one demonstrator, who described himself as a "hooligan from Ghent" told The Telegraph who reports that "nearly 400 far-right "hooligans" have gathered at Place de la Bourse, in what they describe as an "anti-Isil" protest."

....

_http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-27/far-right-hooligans-clash-riot-police-anti-isis-protests-brussels-live-feed

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:(

At least they were booed when they came crashing the peaceful gathering.
Of course the NVA (flemish right) did not really comment on this as they don't see any problem with this kind of behavior.

 

[Niall]

Agents provocateurs, no doubt. Social unity after terror attacks must trouble the PTB. They don't understand it, but they know it's a problem, so they continue disturbing it with 'follow-up terror threats' and breaking it up with reactionaries. The last thing they want - in this case - is Muslims and Euros united in sorrow on place de la Bourse.