Can we talk about Andrew Tate

iamthatis said:
Tristan Tate apparently donated a bunch of food to Gaza,
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Makes me immediately think of this: (don't know if this is the 'right' version, but close enough.)

"If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing. If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing."

Ha, I sincerely doubt Tate would even give 1% of what he has in terms of personal wealth to the poor. In truth, he could be donating that amount every week and just pay less hookers, drink less alcohol, take less drugs... jeez when I think about it, that would probably feed at least half of Gaza!

For me, the day that guy actually starts working on himself of his own volition and is going to some hard core therapy... the day he can see what he has become... the day and I see and feel something genuine in his words and actions... then I might be paying attention.

Until then, he is just noise and his 'acts of love' or 'concern' are more noise.
People who are genuine about such things don't broadcast it to the world.
They just get on with it because it needs to be done, they don't seek attention or require any recognition.
They do it because it's called being HUMAN.
 
Few days ago Dutch 'far right' politican Thierry Baudet had diner with the Tate-brothers. Baudet openly supported them during their incarceration, and I guess they found time to catch up on affairs.

Baudet is pretty much the only Dutch politician openly speaking out against globalism, the WEF and the Covidnarrative. And he does deserve credit for that. But this flirtation with Tate shows me what is off about Baudet too: he is an opportunist IMO. He took this political road by head, not by heart, if that makes any sense.

You can easily see what part of the Tate message resonates with Baudet' views. And sure, Tate does say some sensible things about some topics. Like the broken clock being right two times a day. But if you dissect talk from past actions, and look at the man's manners, his speech, the look on his face, the expression of the eyes... Well, one could easily question if the man is fully consious.

Baudet is an interesting case though. I have heard some podcasts where more spiritual topics were adressed and he is (probably sincerely) asking deeper questions and is going to some sort of awakening proces.

The C's outed him as CO though, in one of the recent sessions, and I feel the very same way. He is kinda critical about Israel recently, but he was very (2 years ago) appealed to Zionism and supporting the idea to start a nation with like-minded people. His current criticism towards Israel is coherent of the views of his following and would fit his opportunist way of practicing politics.


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The Mechanic said:
Seems they've been arrested again.

www.theguardian.com

Andrew Tate faces extradition to UK over rape and human trafficking claims

Tate and brother Tristan arrested on warrant issued to Bedfordshire police but released while case in Romania concludes
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Yes, I caught that as well,

Here's what Sky News had to say about it

A request to extradite social media influencer Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan to the UK has been granted by a court in Romania.

Bedfordshire Police said officers were working with authorities in the country as part of an investigation into the 37-year-old and his 35-year-old sibling.

The pair were detained on Tuesday and appeared at the court of appeal in Bucharest, where it was ruled they would be extradited following the conclusion of legal proceedings in Romania.

The pair were released from police custody following the hearing, their representative said. They added the duo would comply fully with judiciary measures preventing them from leaving the country.

The brothers had been detained for 24 hours pending a ruling on the British arrest warrant.

The court of appeals said in a statement that it "rules to execute the arrest warrant and... to postpone handing over the requested person until the final verdict in the criminal case argued at the Bucharest court".

In a statement, Bedfordshire Police said: "As part of an ongoing investigation into allegations of rape and human trafficking, Bedfordshire Police has obtained a European arrest warrant for two men in their 30s.

"We are working with authorities in Romania as part of this investigation and will provide an update in due course.

"We understand this is a distressing subject, and people may be impacted by what they are seeing in the news."
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Which means, we're probably about to see an uptick in people defending them by default... oh brother.
 
In the video below, Tristan is talking about proposing to a girl just to make the most out of a temporary relationship, and goes on to say that although it ended in tears it made her temporarily happy in that moment. The complete and utter lack of awareness of other people's emotions made my jaw hit the floor here. The Tates do say a lot of stuff just to stay popular and relevant to their target audience, but sweet heaven, to sit there and claim that this was the peak of her happiness, so the hurt that followed somehow didn't matter is just insane. If there's one video I'd point to as evidence that this dude is not a normal and healthy human being - this is the one for me. He doesn't seem to have much of a concept of human emotions in his skull.

It reminds me of James Fallon's "The Psychopath Inside" where he details examples of being a terrible father and husband with complete nonchalance, bordering on pride in his own uniqueness, never for a second pausing to consider what impact his actions had on others.

Good thing the comments called him out for being a twaty narcissist there. I guess even the Tates' supporters couldn't find a way to defend this vile behaviour.

 
Seems to be quite clear that probably both Tate‘s are very narcissistic, and generally speaking, quite nasty human beings. No surprise there. Just goes to show that if someone seems to hold the correct and/or morally appropriate position in some area, that this does not have to mean that that person in question must be a “good/enlightened/decent“ person in general. In fact the contrast can often be quite unbelievable! Their stands on Palestine is such an example.

It also reminds me of the literature on character disturbed and/or psychopathic people where some author mentioned the curious fact that some if not many of the inmates that did horrible things and have a psychopathic diagnosis, can seem to hold very “moral“ and correct views in one area (such that they would never hurt children and/or woman) and at the same time they can be complete amoral monsters towards others.

And you don’t even need to invoke labels or diagnoses: you can see similar dynamics in many quite ordinary and normal people. As usual, it seems to be exist on a scale where some have more or less extreme forms of such inconsistencies.
 
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The Mechanic said:
Seems they've been arrested again.
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Since you posted this, they have been released, and made a whole bunch of self-defending videos about it, like this one here, and it has now been confirmed that the UK has been granted an extradition warrant and the Tates will in fact be extradited to the UK after their trial in Romania ends:


There's a video where Andrew talks about people who get to a certain level of fame being made an offer to be protected if they help out with certain agendas. He then says he refused that offer and they have been after him for that reason:

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I'm actually leaning towards believing that this did happen, that the part of his activity that encourages men to be stronger, women to be feminine, and pushes to restore gender roles to what they have historically been may have been perceived as a threat, especially given how big of an internet personality Andrew Tate has become. Dang, he's been banned from social media, and yet he's all over it, without having an account. I can believe he could be seen as a threat.

But I don't think this makes him an innocent warrior for the cause. Sure, sex assault accusations are the weapon of choice of the ruling elites, it's why Epstein was hired to manufacture such accusations to keep relevant folk in check.

Except that in this case, Andrew loaded the gun himself. No need to manufacture anything, although the Tates' line of defence seems to be to convince everyone that this is what they've done to him.

What I do wonder about is why it's taking so long to convict him. On the one hand, I can see why it would be difficult: he seems to have been very careful and clever about his activity, and the OF accounts used to profit form the girls' activity have been in their names, created using their own credentials to cover the Tates' tracks, so they now get to claim that they only gave a few friends some tips on how to make money on social media (I've seen videos where they say exactly that). What's more, the rape accusations are old, and rape convictions have never been particularly high even when there's recent evidence and not just someone's testimonial from a few years back.

On the other hand, if certain forces wanted to see him behind bars, they'd just put him there. Take Julian Assange for example. So it does make me wonder why this has been such a slow process.
 
I don't think Tate is a threat to the system. He's very useful. For any current of ideas of movement of some sort, the weapon of choice is infiltration. If that happens organically without your intervention, it's even better. You just watch and wait until the time has come to make a move.
First of all, this notion of "influencer" is a little very disturbing. In these times of societal disintegration, there is a hunger for role models. Now instead of having strong, wise, and compassionate male models, young males have the likes of Tate. Instead of having strong, wise and compassionate female models, young females have whatever the counterpart of Tate is. Instead of inspiring the desire for building families and strong communities, they encourage hedonism, individualism, and depravity. That's excellent from the point of view of the PTB, it furthers its agenda.
Why people see in him an ally is a mystery, but that's an additional leverage at the hand of the PTB against them if they choose to use it.
 
The Mechanic said:
I agree. From the PTB's point of view, if you want to devide and conquer by leading people astray, it doesn't really matter what false direction you send them in.
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Yeah, plus the C's said that there are some famous influencers who are human-alien hybrids. I won't say Tate is one, but there's no reason to think that the conservative influencer crowd doesn't have hybrids hiding in place.
 
Probably the Tate brothers are being used by TPTB as toxic male role model archetypes in order to inculcate in the collective consciousness of the western society that most if not all males are brutes by nature, caveman savages prone to violence and debauchery.

Conditioning the society to judge all males in general by way of association with grifters and pathological individuals.

That's the reason why it's taking so long to close the case on them so to say, it's a mind conditioning show for the masses.

At least in my opinion.
 
Andrian said:
Probably the Tate brothers are being used by TPTB as toxic male role model archetypes in order to inculcate in the collective consciousness of the western society that most if not all males are brutes by nature, caveman savages prone to violence and debauchery.

Conditioning the society to judge all males in general by way of association with grifters and pathological individuals.

That's the reason why it's taking so long to close the case on them so to say, it's a mind conditioning show for the masses.

At least in my opinion.
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Yes, I agree, until I see evidence to suggest otherwise.

And by throwing in some truther stuff with a bunch of lies it makes it harder for people to dismiss everything he says, thereby enticing more people.
 
People speaks about him a lot in my area.

My first impression of him was that he is kind of:
He is offended guy and , at the same time he is afraid and have hate to everyone around.

And he is teaching others how to be successful in life, and.., that you have to be kind of "wolf among sheeps"
But Do not care about others.

And as far as i understand that he made a business on live porn, like when you are communicating with girl or a boy alive.

He really looks like he is afraid of everything to me, and he is kickboxer guy. (Than I have got a confirmation of that, when I listed some short interview with him, where he told that "he always checking his back")

(E.g. One can look at Oleksandr Usik, or Antony Joshua, or their last fight, even.
They are famous boxers. I didn't saw this "characteristic" in their eyes.)

Maybe i didn't know him enough, but I will think several times before I would give some recommendations to someone to watch his teaching. Only for discussion.

It was mine first impression.
 
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