Thanks for the update, voyageur. Good to hear Jack is improving. :)
Canine Bone Cancer
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shellycheval
The Living Force
That there are other possible causes is good news.
When my dog had bone cancer, it was advanced enough that there was no doubt what it was. Quality of life for a few months and then a stress-free
euthanasia at home in the kitchen by her very kind vet were our choices over any chemo or radiation to prolong the inevitable.
It sounds to me like you are giving your dog the best possible care, whether the problem is bone cancer or not.
The best of luck to you all.
shellycheval
When my dog had bone cancer, it was advanced enough that there was no doubt what it was. Quality of life for a few months and then a stress-free
euthanasia at home in the kitchen by her very kind vet were our choices over any chemo or radiation to prolong the inevitable.
It sounds to me like you are giving your dog the best possible care, whether the problem is bone cancer or not.
The best of luck to you all.
shellycheval
I agree and that's all that counts.shellycheval said:
I have been reading recently about fantastic properties of Aloe Vera in cleansing and restoration of intestinal wall.
Here is a good presentation on importance of gut hygiene, I am certainly anxious to start experimenting with use of aloe vera in canines, will surely report the results but it will take some time
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HlpbHd4iGg
Herr Eisenheim said:
I've have this queued up for after the SOTT Radio show - thanks!
Bluestar said:So glad to hear Jack is doing better. Which in turns means that you must be doing better as well.
There has been a great deal to learn here, no matter how it ends, especially the aspect of emotions where it can cloud thinking of treatment option. In this sense, whether it is a diagnosis to ones family dog, to oneself, or friends and family, separating emotions, as difficult as that can be, to researching and DOing, essentially when not knowledgeable, asking for help such as with the network here, who are not hampered by the stressors of the moment, can make all the difference. With that, the network as a whole shares every bit in Jack's recovery, even if it were to be short lived, it means the world, so thank you each and all from Jack & the family. :)
Chrissy
Jedi Council Member
Hello Voyager,
I have been following along on Jack's recent struggles and hope he is doing well. I'm not sure if I just missed it in this thread, but I was wondering how much lipo vit c you are mixing into the cup of goats milk. I got some similar news today regarding my yellow lab, Roxie.
I have been following along on Jack's recent struggles and hope he is doing well. I'm not sure if I just missed it in this thread, but I was wondering how much lipo vit c you are mixing into the cup of goats milk. I got some similar news today regarding my yellow lab, Roxie.
Olesya
Jedi Master
voyageur said:Herr Eisenheim said:
I've have this queued up for after the SOTT Radio show - thanks!
Bluestar said:So glad to hear Jack is doing better. Which in turns means that you must be doing better as well.
There has been a great deal to learn here, no matter how it ends, especially the aspect of emotions where it can cloud thinking of treatment option. In this sense, whether it is a diagnosis to ones family dog, to oneself, or friends and family, separating emotions, as difficult as that can be, to researching and DOing, essentially when not knowledgeable, asking for help such as with the network here, who are not hampered by the stressors of the moment, can make all the difference. With that, the network as a whole shares every bit in Jack's recovery, even if it were to be short lived, it means the world, so thank you each and all from Jack & the family. :)
Absolutely true, voyager! :)
to all of you.
Chrissy said:
I am very sorry Chrissy that you have received similar news for your dog, Roxie. A difficult diagnosis itself is heart breaking and we can feel powerless to reverse some things. Fwiw, this seems to have come true for Jack and his family, so he has us and we have him and are caring for each other as the days change (i'll update below). As for the lipo-vit c, he was getting a 1/2 to 1 tbl at meals (this has varied). Today, Jack is pain free and i must point to the diet he has been on, so if you can manage, if not already, in giving Roxie a good Raw food diet, this will help - big hug to Roxie!
The week before last, on our anniversary, my SO and I decided to take Jack away with us; best thing we could have done. He rejuvenated, becoming puppy-like as he ran on the sandy lake shores, swam in the waters, danced for sticks, ate grass, and overall just loved being with us.
This week, as explained above in reference to getting another x-ray, we did just this (a portable digital x-ray machine), and it was very easy for him without any drugging. The vet was joyed with how he was doing after looking at the original x-ray presented here. He was observed walking, he was carefully felt and Jack responded wonderfully. The vet considered that calcification may have been the result of his injury.
The vet came back with the new digital view of his leg and her expression had gone from one of amazement to deep sorrow and we were stunned by the contradiction of how he was doing; even today, with what is going on from within him. Here is the new digital original to compare, although what can be seen is evident.
I know Jack's original vet(s) gave strong opinion based on the ocular view of the original x-ray (7 weeks ago), as did HE and the UNI he sent it to, including what Keit might have been thinking; i was listening and never dismissed this likelihood.
I don't know how long he has, it was said that his bone may have a density much less of what it was and he could, if let loose to run, easily break his leg. I also know that the lungs are subject to this disease of the bone, too; so this is all bleak and am very sorry to let you all know.
We will be together until he tells us it is time, and we will listen to him and help him on his way when it comes; we will not delay when pain becomes apparent. This time together was a great gift and it was made much richer for the help the forum provided.
Thank you all from Jack and family.
Olesya
Jedi Master
Hi, voyager. :) The news are not so good, but, please, don't give up! I understand your feelings upon receiving this news, but you can't let yourself succumb to the sorrow, sadness and fear. Let your Hope be a miraculous cure for Jack! Hope it's worth it's way in gold. Let me explain further.
Here are just some of my thoughts. Jack is not just a Guardian dog, He is a Fighter dog, a Warrior dog. He feels everything you feel, and if you have worries and despair, it's not helping him. You need to help him fight it. What I would do, is the following.
You need to start with yourself. Try to do EE more often, focusing on the warrior's breath. After doing it, hold your dog close to you and gently pet him with light strokes, especially the areas afflicted with the disease, his belly too. I would also try to keep him very close at all times, when possible. Where does he sleep? Maybe, you can arrange for him to sleep very close to you. If he doesn't want it, he surely will show it to you. :)
I have this uneasy feeling about the vitamin C regimen, especially with the goat milk. I'm really sorry that I missed it the first time I read your post (thank you, Chrissy, :) for bringing it up again). I can't tell you what is it exactly: it maybe, vitamin C per se, or it's the combination with the goat milk. I think the latter needs to removed from his diet. Have you checked his liver lately? I was also thinking about magnesium. Here is the article where you can read about that: _http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/AnimalWellness/Shasta.aspx There is another one here: _http://www.tbyil.com/Dogs_Natural_Cancer_Protocol.htm There is nothing specific about the magnesium for cancer treatment in dogs, but if you look at specific supplements suggested such as Kelp, Alfalfa, and Dandelion, all contain magnesium ( in significant quantities, I would think) Other herbs are also liver and gut cleansing herbs. And keep up with his raw food diet and all the wonderful care you providing for Jack.
There is one more possibility to consider, I think. Essential oils, frankincense essential and myrrh oils, in particular. _http://www.miracleoils.ca/2012/12/frankincense-essential-oil-and-cancer.html Little anointment for Jack? :)
I couldn't find anything specific for dog relating to this particular course of treatment, but here are some bits of information.
First one from here: _http://www.essentialanimals.com/articles/essential-oils-dogs
And then,
And here about frankincense and cancer treatment _http://www.miracleoils.ca/2012/12/frankincense-essential-oil-and-cancer.html (it was not mentioned specifically for dogs, but I think it might work) :
Maybe, giving it orally, maybe, not even need it, you can try to dilute these oils in olive oil and massage it into the Jack's skin.
I really hope it helps. And my best wishes and warm hugs to all of you!
Here are just some of my thoughts. Jack is not just a Guardian dog, He is a Fighter dog, a Warrior dog. He feels everything you feel, and if you have worries and despair, it's not helping him. You need to help him fight it. What I would do, is the following.
You need to start with yourself. Try to do EE more often, focusing on the warrior's breath. After doing it, hold your dog close to you and gently pet him with light strokes, especially the areas afflicted with the disease, his belly too. I would also try to keep him very close at all times, when possible. Where does he sleep? Maybe, you can arrange for him to sleep very close to you. If he doesn't want it, he surely will show it to you. :)
I have this uneasy feeling about the vitamin C regimen, especially with the goat milk. I'm really sorry that I missed it the first time I read your post (thank you, Chrissy, :) for bringing it up again). I can't tell you what is it exactly: it maybe, vitamin C per se, or it's the combination with the goat milk. I think the latter needs to removed from his diet. Have you checked his liver lately? I was also thinking about magnesium. Here is the article where you can read about that: _http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/AnimalWellness/Shasta.aspx There is another one here: _http://www.tbyil.com/Dogs_Natural_Cancer_Protocol.htm There is nothing specific about the magnesium for cancer treatment in dogs, but if you look at specific supplements suggested such as Kelp, Alfalfa, and Dandelion, all contain magnesium ( in significant quantities, I would think) Other herbs are also liver and gut cleansing herbs. And keep up with his raw food diet and all the wonderful care you providing for Jack.
There is one more possibility to consider, I think. Essential oils, frankincense essential and myrrh oils, in particular. _http://www.miracleoils.ca/2012/12/frankincense-essential-oil-and-cancer.html Little anointment for Jack? :)
I couldn't find anything specific for dog relating to this particular course of treatment, but here are some bits of information.
First one from here: _http://www.essentialanimals.com/articles/essential-oils-dogs
And then,
And here about frankincense and cancer treatment _http://www.miracleoils.ca/2012/12/frankincense-essential-oil-and-cancer.html (it was not mentioned specifically for dogs, but I think it might work) :
Maybe, giving it orally, maybe, not even need it, you can try to dilute these oils in olive oil and massage it into the Jack's skin.
I really hope it helps. And my best wishes and warm hugs to all of you!
Sorry to hear bad news about Jack, voyageur, and about Roxie, Chrissy.
