Civil War in Ukraine: Western Empire vs Russia

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thorbiorn said:
On FB there appeared a photo of a document allegedly from the Ukrainian SBU. The message is translated as:
_https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1045430662138574&set=a.258069454208036.84868.100000149517559&type=1 said:
The document reads:
1. All media must react online to violation of ceasefire.
2. Ensure total control over spreading of information about violations of ceasefire by regular Russia military.
3. Carry out measures concerning Internet providers to turn off websites of terrorist organizations on Ukraine territory.
4. In order to prevent misinformation of the population ensure technical maintenance of social networks from Feb 14 to Feb 20, 2015.

It is to be seen if this alleged policy will amount to anything in real life. This letter plus what Dmitry Yarosh said about the Minsk agreement indicates that the planned peace is fragile, and that a good number of militant people in Kiev view the people of Novorossiya as Israel views the Palestinians.

I was wondering about the meaning of "technical maintenance of social networks"
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Damn!
"As part of the counteraction of the information war, as well as for the full information control over the implementation of" Minsk agreements "on the part of Ukraine, I order"...
they want to break the truce and make it false flag to blame militia and Russia in this:
1. "from February 15 make "news" in the media that the so-called DPR and LPR breached the truce." and 2nd item.
next they will do:
3."Carry out measures concerning Internet providers to turn off websites of terrorist organizations on Ukraine territory." - there are listed websites of all Russian media, including the RT, and information web-portals of militias and their supporters.
in 4th item: "[...] Create technical difficulties in the work of Russian social networks [...] by efforts of Ukrainian Internet providers." (which are leaders in popularity in Ukraine. So, in VK /vkontakte/ there are hundreds of groups of "Ukrainian patriots", "right sector" and other bastards).
in other words, they want to make hacker attacks at these websites, and "bring them down".
 
thorbiorn said:
No matter what was agreed in Minsk, Ukraine is preparing for more war:
[url=http://fortruss.blogspot.dk/2015/02/doomsday-watch-now-ukraine-wants-to.html said:
http://fortruss.blogspot.dk/2015/02/doomsday-watch-now-ukraine-wants-to.html[/url]]The Verkhovna Rada approved without much fanfare the so-called “housing duty”. This allows local administration under a martial law to seize housing for the purpose of quartering soldiers and officers. President Poroshenko announced earlier that the Cabinet of Ministers and Parliament may introduce martial law if there is no agreement in Minsk.

The Rada was not being idle while the negotiations were continuing in Minsk. In addition to passing the “housing duty”, the Rada also introduced jail terms for civil defense duty evasion.

The law specifies that individuals avoiding civil defense duty during a “special period” or an “extraordinary situation” will be punished by a jail term of two to five years.

that's not all! here's the next horrible "laws":

amended:

In the Criminal Code of Ukraine:
- "Article 336. Evasion from service of civil defense in a special period or in the event of targeted mobilization shall be punished by imprisonment for a term from two to five years."
[If you will buy off from "ATO", you'll still find yourself in civil defense - and it's the same, because the local authorities do not intend to contain from its budget these "territorial defense units", and they are sent to the same: on slaughterhouse.]

In the Law of Ukraine "On legal regime of the state of emergency":
- "Words "natural disaster or catastrophe" shall be replaced by the words "particularly serious emergencies."
[Well, here is clear: a simply "magic". Because civil war hardly looks like "natural disaster", but "particularly serious emergency" it is quite.]

In the Law of Ukraine "About Fundamentals of National Security of Ukraine":
"In the sphere of civil defense:
- Discrepancy to modern challenges the status of a unified state system of civil defense, civil defense forces, their technical equipment;
- Significant anthropogenic and technogenic overload of Ukrainian territory, the growth of the risks of emergencies of technogenic and natural character;
- Deterioration of the technical condition of waterworks cascade of reservoirs on the Dnieper River;
- The impossibility of proper maintenance nuclear facilities on territory of Ukraine;
- The risk of technogenic, including nuclear and biological, terrorism."

[this is without comment. Well, you realize that Ukraine is waiting in the near future? I do not know which of the items first to implements Kiev: blow up a dam or nuclear power plant. After all, the problem with the "anthropogenic overload of Ukrainian territory" must somehow decide!]

http://aftershock.su/?q=node/287843

Now, do you remember C's message about "explosion in Ukraine: a chemical or nuclear"?

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Oh Gosh, I have no words! it is awful :(

and here is about implementation by Ukraine of Minsk agreements:
Ukraine refused to grant amnesty to the leaders of militias of Donbass

This was stated by Minister of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine Pavlo Klimkin.

"Amnesty exclusively - I emphasize - in the limits of the law, which was discussed here, in this hall," - said Klimkin, speaking in the Parliament of Ukraine on Friday.
On the question whether the presidential decree for clemency militia leaders, minister said: "The answer is simple: no."

"Any steps with respect to the so-called amnesty will be implemented according to the law, which was discussed in the Parliament. Moreover, this amnesty in any way, and I repeat this, can not be given to those who were involved and engaged in crimes against humanity [ :mad: :mad: :mad: ]. This is an absolute position, which was clearly emphasized in the framework of yesterday's talks." - said Klimkin.

http://www.interfax.ru/world/423878
 
Lumiere_du_Code said:
thorbiorn said:
No matter what was agreed in Minsk, Ukraine is preparing for more war:
[url=http://fortruss.blogspot.dk/2015/02/doomsday-watch-now-ukraine-wants-to.html said:
http://fortruss.blogspot.dk/2015/02/doomsday-watch-now-ukraine-wants-to.html[/url]]The Verkhovna Rada approved without much fanfare the so-called “housing duty”. This allows local administration under a martial law to seize housing for the purpose of quartering soldiers and officers. President Poroshenko announced earlier that the Cabinet of Ministers and Parliament may introduce martial law if there is no agreement in Minsk.

The Rada was not being idle while the negotiations were continuing in Minsk. In addition to passing the “housing duty”, the Rada also introduced jail terms for civil defense duty evasion.

The law specifies that individuals avoiding civil defense duty during a “special period” or an “extraordinary situation” will be punished by a jail term of two to five years.

that's not all! here's the next horrible "laws":

amended:

In the Criminal Code of Ukraine:
- "Article 336. Evasion from service of civil defense in a special period or in the event of targeted mobilization shall be punished by imprisonment for a term from two to five years."
[If you will buy off from "ATO", you'll still find yourself in civil defense - and it's the same, because the local authorities do not intend to contain from its budget these "territorial defense units", and they are sent to the same: on slaughterhouse.]

In the Law of Ukraine "On legal regime of the state of emergency":
- "Words "natural disaster or catastrophe" shall be replaced by the words "particularly serious emergencies."
[Well, here is clear: a simply "magic". Because civil war hardly looks like "natural disaster", but "particularly serious emergency" it is quite.]

In the Law of Ukraine "About Fundamentals of National Security of Ukraine":
"In the sphere of civil defense:
- Discrepancy to modern challenges the status of a unified state system of civil defense, civil defense forces, their technical equipment;
- Significant anthropogenic and technogenic overload of Ukrainian territory, the growth of the risks of emergencies of technogenic and natural character;
- Deterioration of the technical condition of waterworks cascade of reservoirs on the Dnieper River;
- The impossibility of proper maintenance nuclear facilities on territory of Ukraine;
- The risk of technogenic, including nuclear and biological, terrorism."

[this is without comment. Well, you realize that Ukraine is waiting in the near future? I do not know which of the items first to implements Kiev: blow up a dam or nuclear power plant. After all, the problem with the "anthropogenic overload of Ukrainian territory" must somehow decide!]

http://aftershock.su/?q=node/287843

Now, do you remember C's message about "explosion in Ukraine: a chemical or nuclear"?

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The EU is really a funny entity. First one has:
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150213/1018198122.html said:
[...]
01:12 13.02.2015
[...]

BRUSSELS (Sputnik) – President of the European Council Donald Tusk has announced that the European Union has not been discussing any new anti-Russia sanctions over the situation in Ukraine.

Meanwhile German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters that fresh EU sanctions could be enforced if the ceasefire agreement reached in Minsk is not fully implemented.

Merkel also said that the sanctions that the European Union had come up with over the escalation of violence in the southeast Ukrainian city of Mariupol and that EU foreign ministers later postponed will come into force on February 16. The restrictive measures include sanctions against nine entities and 19 individuals, including five Russian citizens.
[...]
And then 17 hours later:
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150213/1018235538.html said:
[...]
18:49 13.02.2015(updated 19:08 13.02.2015)
Another set of sanctions targeting Russian individuals and entities will be enacted on February 16, the European Commission spokesperson said.

BRUSSELS (Sputnik) – Maja Kocijancic, European Commission's spokesperson for foreign affairs, confirmed Friday that the EU will add 19 individuals, including five Russians, and nine entities to the list of sanctions over Ukraine on February 16.

The statement was made a day after Russian President Vladimir Putin, together with the leaders of Germany, France and Ukraine, brokered a new deal on the crisis reconciliation in Minsk.
[...]
Does this mean that the people who made the agreement do not believe in it themselves? Or does it mean that the sanctions have really nothing to do with Ukraine? Or does it mean that they got a message from across the channel and across the pond to forget about the paper they made? Or does it mean that the EU leadership is essentially indistinguishable from the likes of right sector chief Dmitry Yarosh? Or ... something else?
 
thorbiorn said:
BRUSSELS (Sputnik) – President of the European Council Donald Tusk has announced that the European Union has not been discussing any new anti-Russia sanctions over the situation in Ukraine.

Meanwhile German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters that fresh EU sanctions could be enforced if the ceasefire agreement reached in Minsk is not fully implemented.

Does this mean that the people who made the agreement do not believe in it themselves? Or does it mean that the sanctions have really nothing to do with Ukraine? Or does it mean that they got a message from across the channel and across the pond to forget about the paper they made? Or does it mean that the EU leadership is essentially indistinguishable from the likes of right sector chief Dmitry Yarosh? Or ... something else?


Although Poroshenko was part of "the Normady 4" that represented Ukraine in brokering the Minsk agreements, I don't see Poroshenko as the "power figure in control." I think, Yarosh trumps him in that regard and is the "loose cannon" in the equation, representing the U.S /CIA/ Obama's directives? Reason, McCain said that the truce would not last even one week? Like clockwork, even before the ceasefire, the IMF – under Washington’s orders – suddenly announced it would continue to help bailout bankrupt Ukraine with a tranche of$17.5 billion, part of a large $40 billion, four-year “rescue” package. So now, Ukraine has a new cash flow - for War.

A back dated November article seems to define Yarosh and the power behind him.

Meet Ukraine’s Master Mass-Murderer: “Right Sector” Leader Dmitriy Yarosh
http://www.globalresearch.ca/meet-ukraines-master-mass-murderer-right-sector-leader-dmitriy-yarosh/5415049

Dmitriy Yarosh is the founder and head of one of Ukraine’s two racist-fascist, or nazi, parties, Right Sector. [He was (until August 7)] officially the #2 Ukrainian national-security official, working directly under Andreiy Paribuiy, who heads Ukraine’s other nazi party (the party that used to call itself Ukraine’s “Social Nationalist Party,” after Hitler’s National Socialist Party, but which the CIA renamed “Svoboda,” meaning “Freedom,” so as to make it more acceptable to Americans).

However, Yarosh has turned out to be Ukraine’s actual leader, despite his not being officially at the top. His nominal boss, Paribuiy, had been appointed by Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who was chosen on February 4th (18 days prior to the coup) to be Ukraine’s new leader, by Victoria Nuland, who was appointed by Hillary Clinton and John Kerry, who were appointed by Barack Obama (the actual ruler of the new Ukraine).

As Yarosh said this past March in an interview with Newsweek, he has “been training paramilitary troops for almost 25 years.”

Yarosh’s teams carry out the most violent operations for the CIA in Ukraine (including the coup). Since these are the people who actually specialize in this sort of political operation, Yarosh basically commands the country. Ukraine is now run on fear, and everyone fears Dmitriy Yarosh. Even Ukraine’s other leaders fear him. He is sometimes shockingly public with his threats against even the nation’s President. Yarosh is the only person who can afford to be.

Yarosh hires only proud far-right mercenaries, who are paid by him from U.S. Government agencies (for example, see this), and from U.S. oligarchs such as George Soros (via his International Renaissance Fund) and Pierre Omidyar — people whose enormous wealth is matched by their intense hatred of Russians — and are also paid directly and indirectly by Ukrainian oligarchs, especially by the one who (along with Arsen Avakov) actually masterminded the May 2nd massacre of Russian-oriented Ukrainians: that’s the Obama White House’s friend, the Ukrainian billionaire Ihor Kolomoysky. (Kolomoysky offered $5,000 for every confirmed corpse produced at the May 2nd massacre.)

Obama needed to eliminate the people in the areas of Ukraine who had voted around 90% for the man he overthrew on February 22nd. (That’s the area of the extermination.) Otherwise, Obama’s coup wouldn’t possess staying-power as a ‘democracy’; it wouldn’t survive future nationwide Ukrainian elections if these areas of almost exclusively pro-Russian voters weren’t ruthlessly destroyed. Those Ukrainian voters thus needed to be eliminated. They were doomed by Obama’s coup-plan, and their doom was Obama’s follow-through on his coup.

Dmitriy Yarosh is the indispensable person for such a crucial political task as the elimination of Yanukovych’s voters — and that’s the reason why Yarosh now essentially rules Ukraine.

He says that the reason they need to be slaughtered is that they are “separatists” and “terrorists.” But Yarosh himself had fought alongside Chechen Moslems in Russia for Chechnia’s independence from Russia. He said that their battle is heroic. Bottom line on Yarosh is that what Jews were to Hitler, ethnic Russians, and all of Russia, are to him, and to the entire movement that he represents, which were Ukraine’s Hitler-supporting organizations during World War II. This anti-Russian form of nazism doesn’t go only back to the German Nazi Party; it’s indigenous to northwestern Ukraine, which is why Ukraine has two native nazi parties, not merely one.

It’s for America’s oligarchy to be the masters of other nations’ oligarchies, rather than for other nations’ oligarchies to be the masters of ours. The shoe’s on the other foot, now, that’s all. Fascism, even nazism, finally won.


Russia Guarantor of Ukraine Settlement, Not Party Fulfilling Deal – Kremlin / Sputnik International
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150213/1018209668.html

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia is the guarantor of the Ukrainian reconciliation, not a party that needs to fulfill the Minsk agreement, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told RIA Novosti on Friday.

“Russia is the country that was called by the parties of the conflict. This is the country that called on the parties of the conflict to sign a complex of measures to fulfill the Minsk agreements. But Russia is not one of the parties to fulfill these measures. This is the country that is acting as the guarantor, that comes forward with a call, but, obviously, it’s not a party that needs to take any actions for [the fulfillment]. We simply can’t do this physically because Russia is not a participant in the conflict,” Peskov said.

Moscow hopes that all of the points drawn up in the Minsk deal on Ukraine crisis settlement will be fulfilled, Dmitry Peskov said.
 
This war is led by US psychopaths, so nothing of this truce. Psychopaths can be stopped only by physical destruction. I think that Putin already knows that this truce will be failure as any older. He gave them ultimatum, but they are not able to comprehend that fact.
 
thorbiorn said:
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thanks, I has not looked through it :rolleyes:
 
Avala said:
This war is led by US psychopaths, so nothing of this truce. Psychopaths can be stopped only by physical destruction. I think that Putin already knows that this truce will be failure as any older. He gave them ultimatum, but they are not able to comprehend that fact.

Yeah, the whole country is ruled by the CIA and infested with all kinds of spooks and mercenaries. But aside from causing large scale chaos, destruction, death and maiming, they're not going to be able to accomplish any of their ultimate goals (and for many psychopaths all of the above is an end in itself).
 
President Poroshenko and the first deputy chairman of the faction of his party Igor Kononenko, illegally acquired land in exclusive village of Tsarskoye Selo in Kiev, reports Radio Liberty.

According to media reports, plots of Poroshenko and Kononenko have a common address and are located opposite each other on Radial str. 5 in Kiev.
"At first, both plots of land with total area of 1.10 hectares decision of city council were free transferred to cooperatives service Zelenbudservis-K, whose members had a sister of Igor Kononenko Oksana Avdeeva, trustee of Poroshenko in 2012 elections Oksana Smakous and persons associated with the business of Poroshenko and Kononenko."- said publication.

In summer 2009, cooperative Zelenbudservis-K made a surety company Ridna Marka Corp at the mortgagee - Odessa private enterprise Ukrsel. Plot on Radial str.5 with area of 46 acres was transferred to the mortgage.
According to journalists, such an operation carried out also with the second portion - an area of 63 hundred square meters. On July 20, 2009 both plots became the property of Ukrsel. In August 2009 PE (private entrepreneur) sold an area of 46 acres to Kononenko.

_http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3479176-smy-obvyniauit-poroshenko-v-makhynatsyiakh-s-zemlei

and what is most interesting here: this news has appeared on the website, which is owned by Poroshenko!
 
"Doctors Without Borders" tell about how Gorlovka looks today. Michael Roesch, surgeon, arrived to Gorlovka six days ago and immediately began working at the hospital №2:

"Main Operating on the sixth floor do not work, because there is too dangerous because of the shelling. There is one operating on the ground floor. Every day we receive from 5 to 20 victims of shelling. Last week, in one day at once was brought 60 wounded, but for three days in the hospital did not have tap water, so we had to cancel all operations, except for the most urgent because without water nothing can be sterilized. in hospitals run out basic medical supplies. Doctors at other hospitals told us that me they have run of surgical thread, so we had to sew up people with fishing line.
Due to the deterioration of water quality a growing number of cases of diarrhea at children, but the children's hospital ended injections are necessary to prevent dehydration. Running out of a variety of medicines - at us ask for insulin, antibiotics, disinfectants for wounds - we've got a huge list of things that urgently need them besides the fact that we have brought."

He visited three hospitals in the city, which still work, but many medical centers and clinics closed due to shelling and staff shortages.
"About half of medical staff fled the city. Those who remained have not been paid for 7 months. I am a surgeon, but in my life never seen so many people with amputations - they go to the store, and an hour later to them cut off legs. For local surgeons who had never worked with war wounds, have to spend at least one or two amputations per day.

Everywhere craters from exploded shells, including the straight to a children's hospital. But of children themselves can hardly see: the majority of families with small children left from here. I have the feeling that I was in a ghost town. Most shops are closed, no a cafe and restaurants. If people go out into the street, they move as soon as possible. No one is standing on the spot, unless the bus is waiting."

http://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1767494

Culture Palace:
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The consequences of shelling of Gorlovka:
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Lumiere_du_Code said:
"Doctors Without Borders" tell about how Gorlovka looks today. Michael Roesch, surgeon, arrived to Gorlovka six days ago and immediately began working at the hospital №2:

I read this article on Russian SoTT today, it's so horrible. :(

Tass also gives an English version of this report, but it's without pictures: http://tass.ru/en/world/777632.

I just hope that this horror will cease tomorrow, for some time at least.
 
Siberia said:
I just hope that this horror will cease tomorrow, for some time at least.

Unfortunately, the truce is unlikely to be. Ukraine is already creating provocations. Half an hour ago I saw a post on the network from Ukrainian bloggers about BS that "Russia changed clothes of their soldiers in Ukrainian uniform and threw them in the rear to break the truce."
and this:

Lumiere_du_Code said:
thorbiorn said:
On FB there appeared a photo of a document allegedly from the Ukrainian SBU. The message is translated as:
_https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1045430662138574&set=a.258069454208036.84868.100000149517559&type=1 said:
The document reads:
1. All media must react online to violation of ceasefire.
2. Ensure total control over spreading of information about violations of ceasefire by regular Russia military.
3. Carry out measures concerning Internet providers to turn off websites of terrorist organizations on Ukraine territory.
4. In order to prevent misinformation of the population ensure technical maintenance of social networks from Feb 14 to Feb 20, 2015.

It is to be seen if this alleged policy will amount to anything in real life. This letter plus what Dmitry Yarosh said about the Minsk agreement indicates that the planned peace is fragile, and that a good number of militant people in Kiev view the people of Novorossiya as Israel views the Palestinians.

I was wondering about the meaning of "technical maintenance of social networks"
<...>

"As part of the counteraction of the information war, as well as for the full information control over the implementation of" Minsk agreements "on the part of Ukraine, I order"...
they want to break the truce and make it false flag to blame militia and Russia in this:
1. "from February 15 make "news" in the media that the so-called DPR and LPR breached the truce." and 2nd item.
next they will do:
3."Carry out measures concerning Internet providers to turn off websites of terrorist organizations on Ukraine territory." - there are listed websites of all Russian media, including the RT, and information web-portals of militias and their supporters.
in 4th item: "[...] Create technical difficulties in the work of Russian social networks [...] by efforts of Ukrainian Internet providers." (which are leaders in popularity in Ukraine. So, in VK /vkontakte/ there are hundreds of groups of "Ukrainian patriots", "right sector" and other bastards).
in other words, they want to make hacker attacks at these websites, and "bring them down".

plus Yarosh sent Poroshenko to hell and said that the right sector will continue to fight because they do not recognize any truce with the "Russian occupiers".
and Poroshenko again stated that if the fighting continues, he will introduce martial law throughout the country and throw the whole population to protect "homeland".
 
Hi, I just read the following article on SOTT

http://www.sott.net/article/292549-Paul-Craig-Roberts-says-Putin-sold-out-rebels-helping-US-achieve-victory-in-Ukraine

Can someone explain how PCR is wrong please?

Surely this Minsk deal is impossible? Why would they sign something that is impossible? What happens if someone breaks it?

Also, I've been seeing comments on SOTT about leaders in Europe starting to see the situation for what it is... really? They've always seen it... they act how they do not because of not seeing, rather, because of money, power and greed - and the fact that probably the US has so much dirt on them that to protect their own skin they have to toe the line. Why is Putin dealing with Merkel and Hollande? Why is he doing it? Dangerous situation... In my view their is a false image that European leaders are starting to see the light in this situation... to me, it's dangerous because Putin can start to think he's starting to have some real ideological effect on the continents leadership and put his guard down. I hope he doesn't think that a leopard can actually change the colour of its skin... they are bought and paid for by the US, totally, 100% rubber stamped, no questioning. America won't stop and if he starts listening to whispers from the likes of Merkel and Hollande, he's in trouble.... OSIT.

Anyways, how is PCR wrong? War is bad, yes... peace should be brought to bear... but America won't have it. This is what I don't get... America won't have any of it. I don't understand the logic unless its meant to fail?
 
luke wilson said:
Hi, I just read the following article on SOTT

http://www.sott.net/article/292549-Paul-Craig-Roberts-says-Putin-sold-out-rebels-helping-US-achieve-victory-in-Ukraine

Can someone explain how PCR is wrong please?

PCR is wrong about many crucial points here actually, namely:

It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that the Russian government made a strategic mistake when it did not accept the requests of the break-away provinces to be united with Russia. The people in the Donetsk and Lugansk provinces favored unification with the same massive majorities that the people in Crimea showed. If the provinces had been united with Russia, it would have been the end of the conflict. Neither Ukraine nor Washington is going to attack Russian territory.

[..]

Putin could be no more demonized even if the Russian military had invaded Ukraine, conquered it, and reincorporated Ukraine in Russia of which Ukraine was part for centuries prior to the Soviet collapse and Ukraine's separation from Russia at Washington's insistence.

If Putin did what PCR suggested above, it wouldn't "have been the end of the conflict" - quite on the contrary, we would all already be burning in WW3. Thank God, that it was Putin and not PCR who made the decision..

If after peaceful re-union with Crimea they demonized him to high heaven and imposed sanctions, what would have happened, if Putin indeed "invaded Ukraine" as PCR suggests? It seems like PCR has lost connection with reality here.

Besides, where did PCR get this:

Moreover, the deal requires the republics' forces to give up territory and to pull back to the borders of last September and to eject fighters from France and other countries who have come to the aid of the break-away republics.
?

In reality (and practically all other sources except PCR say this), the agreement is as follows:

The agreement instructs Ukrainian and rebel fighters to withdraw heavy artillery from two separate frontlines of fighting: the current frontlines for Kiev’s forces, and another line demarcated in the September Minsk agreement for pro-Russian fighters.

Which means that Kiev has lost a lot since September. Why do you think junta is shelling like crazy now? Because tomorrow they will have to withdraw their weapons from where they are now.

PCR made other wrong assumptions as well, but these two major mistakes are already enough to ignore this particular analysis of his, imo.
 
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