Comet Elenin

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Hello Gandalf,

Omerbashich's claims about planetary alignments (all) are used to validate his theoretical mechanism. However, if some alignment/earthquake happen, it doesn't mean that a given mechanism is true, in that point he's not honnest. It just mean that there is some connection. I think he is just jumping into a wagon to make himself known, otherwise his data would be done more carefully, even the plots (you don't write a scientific paper with copy-and-past figures from the internet).

The connection between some planetary alignments and some sismic events can be done in a more scientific and more serious way IMHO, his is not.
 

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Check this:
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/comet-elenin-white-house-letter.html

We had previously reported how Planetary Alignments with Comet Elenin Causing Big Earthquakes. And about Comet Elenin HUGE MASS, as objects with smaller mass having short elliptic al Orbit, from 2 up to 1000 years or so, like Asteroids or Comets.The fact that Elenin comet (C2010 X1 ) enters our solar system close to the ecliptic with a Period of ~11’800 Years (Long Period Orbit), makes this Object very dangerous. read it all

In latest development now we learns 10 page letter is already out on the web since October 2010, which proves that US NASA and the White House know about ELENIN and consider it “a real threat” (On October 11, 2011 Elenin will be only 0.246au away from Earth; that’s a quarter of the distance to the sun.) it`s possible even more dangerous against earth than we understand.

They are calculating and preparing to if possible take action against this Comet. John Holdren, director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, or OSTP, outlines plans for “(A) protecting the United States from a near-Earth object that is expected to collide with Earth.

Interestingly, Comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) was only “discovered” by civilian Leonid Elenin on December 10, 2010, in the official White House letter below, written back in late October 2010, the White House addressed the possibility of an Comet/Asteroid striking the Earth.

The terminology used in this letter, along with several other facts that have emerged in the time since the letter was written, lead us to believe that our “shadow” government and elements within NASA have long known that anticipated effects of the arrival of Comet Elenin would indeed be much greater than they are telling the public.

In fact, we believe that the White House letter below may be the “smoking gun” to help prove that the government indeed does know that the potential consequences facing planet Earth from this comet will be far more disastrous than what they are “officially” telling the public.

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In breaking down this letter, it’s important to address several questions that have since more recent information come to light.

After the letter above clearly shows how important it is to monitor such incoming objects due to their propensity to “change” orbit?

Why was it that NASA turned off the granddaddy of all NEO (Near Earth Objects) telescopes & SETI ATA this year.

Flashback Quote:

The WISE spacecraft will remain in hibernation without ground contacts awaiting possible future use.
Feb. 17, 2011 Space.com

The SETI ATA has been in hibernation - a safe mode of sorts, where “the equipment is unavailable for normal observations since April 15, 2011. Universetoday.com

Why are we not getting any straight information from mainstream media about Comet Elenin 2011 while most Google searches on Elenin will bring you straight to the alternative news sites throughout the world?



I checked the gov site
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/ostp-letter-neos-house.pdf

and the letter is real.

Maybe some of ya'll ought to read it and see what you can make of it?
 

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One of the links in the UFO blogger post goes to another UFO blogger post that says this:

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/comet-elenin-fulfill-2012-maya-and-hopi.html

Last week we had reported HERE how Planetary Alignments with Comet Elenin Causing Big Earthquakes.

Now we have learn comet Elenin (C/2010 X1) have a large mass, that this likely would have a considerable influence on Earth physical environment.

As in the case of the fact that the mass and size of the long period comet is not yet confirmed, remains an uncertainty and speculation which the effect of a flyby have. It must be assumed that, when the comet have a large mass, that this likely would have a considerable influence on Earth physical environment.

Long Period Objects in elliptical Orbit:

long period Objects are a big danger for the inner Planets. There are different reasons for that.

First historical: LPO are not recognised in the younger human history, and therefore forgotten. Only written down in metaphor and symbolic languages from ancients culture, like the Atlantians Sumerian and also recorded to the old testament.

Second scientific: LPO with an elliptical Orbit of ~11800 Years, can not have a small mass, that is simple given from the law of physics. Objects with smaller mass having short elliptical Orbit, from 2 up to 1000 years or so, like Asteroids or Comets.

Therefore: Objects with bigger mass staying in long period Orbits. The fact that Elenin comet (C2010 X1 ) enters our solar system close to the ecliptic with a Period of ~11’800 Years, makes this Object very dangerous. So it is good to keep an eye on it.

Scientists recently discovered that we are actually late immigrants to the Milky Way! The long held belief that we are citizens of the Milky Way appears to have been debunked with the discovery of the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy in 1994 by Rodrigo Ibata, Mike Irwin, and Gerry Gilmore.

Further studies and voluminous amount of data from the infrared telescope Two-Micron All Sky Survey (2MASS) by researchers from the University of Massachusetts revealed that the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy, our home galaxy, is in the midst of concluding a process that begun millions of years ago – a process of integrating themselves into the 10,000 times bigger Milky Way galaxy.

This process explains why the Milky Way always appears to be slanting sideways in the night sky instead of ecliptic, and why there appears to be a dark depth in the center of it. The orbit of the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy and the Milky Way, plus to a much smaller extent, the wobble of the earth caused by its spinning along its axis coincides with the planet dipping above and below the center of that dark depth, which is also referred to as Galactic Equator.

Now, how does this relate to the Mayan prophesy, you rightly wonder. Well, let’s start in the beginning. The fundamentals of the Mayan calendar and sky charting were ‘borrowed’ from the Olmec civilization which started their stargazing approximately in 680B.C. The Mayans extrapolated and refined the Olmec’s system to assist them in the more mundane aspects of existence, such as crop plating, the appointment of a Sun God and stuff like that. Eventually, they created their own calendars, and paid close attention to the movement of the stars and planets that were marching across our sky.

One of their most popular calendars was called the Tzolkin. The Tzolkin consists of eighteen 20 days month (Uinals), where each of the twenty days is accorded a symbolic significance (a more complicated version of the modern astrology). The eighteen month totals up to 360 days, which is referred to as a Tun year. The sum of twenty of these Tuns is 19 years, eight months and 15 days, or a Katun. A Baktun meanwhile, equals twenty Katuns, or 394 years and four months. Now, thirteen Baktuns gets you one Great Cycle, or 1,872,000 days, which is approximately 5,125 years; the equivalent of one Mayan Great Cycle.

Since the Mayan folklore stipulates that the universe was created on August 11, 3114BC, it stands to reason that the end of the cycle will happen exactly 1,872,000 days later, which falls on 11:11GMT, 21 December 2012. (Elenin - Earth - Sun)

So, how did the Mayans came to the ‘5,125 year equals one Great Cycle’ conclusion, again, you rightly wonder? Elementary, my dear Watson. It’s the wobbling stars in the sky. The movement of the stars across the night sky is often accompanied by wobbles in movement that corresponds with the solstices of both the earth and the sun. The wobbles, which coincidentally sounds like a children's TV show, is caused by a minor realignment of our planet along its axis as the gravitational forces and the recently discovered phenomena of the dark energy exerts its influence on earth.

A simple (Okay, it’s not simple at all. It’s hard, like rocket science hard) calculation reveals that our movement and the sun’s, in relation to the Galactic Equator, will see the intersection of the Sun’s path across our skyline (the Elliptical) and the Galactic Equator. This intersection can only occur every 5,125 years (and the Mayans didn’t even have a scientific calculator to help with the counting then – a great many volunteer toes were probably required then)!

To be fair, the Mayans did not prophesize what exactly will happen to the galaxy, which they referred to as the Sacred Tree, then. It could be a simple display of aurora borealis, it could be a period of rebirth or, seeing that the Mayans consider the sun as a representation of their God, Kukulkna, it could also imply (as many seem to be in favor of) a cataclysmic extinction level event.

So you sigh in silence, exasperated, wondering yet again as to the link between Elenin’s arrival in September-October 2011 and the Mayan prophesized Armageddon in December 2012. To be as brief as possible, the solar dating system that is the Gregorian calendar that you swear by, inherited a number of flaws in them. The most obvious one would be of the missing day every century, owing to the rounding up of 365 days, 5 hours, 48 minutes, 45.25 seconds to 3651/4 days in the Julian calendar that was used before the Gregorian one, which by the 16th century, saw to the ‘disappearance’ of 14 days! In addition, Pope Gregory, who authorized the conversion to the Julian calendar in 1582, shifted the calendar by 11 days, which saw the calendar leap from March 4, 1582 to March 15 the next day. In addition, the new calendar is still losing 30 seconds from the solar cycle annually. Add to the fact that the Julian calendar that was adopted by, who else, Julius Caesar in the eight century made a leap of 67 days to sync with the solar cycle, and upon his death, there were confusions with the methodology involved, with the most damaging being the three years leap years (instead of the now common four). Recalculating the Great Cycle in its entirety against the modern calendar, taking into account the faults and adjustments incorporated into it would reveal that the prophesized date would in fact be on October 28, 2011 – within weeks of Elenin’s projected perihelion, and more alarmingly, within 12 days of its forecasted perigee (closest orbital distance to the center of earth).

Comet Elenin and The Hopi

The Hopis prophesy ties a little into the Mayan’s concept of creation - the Great Cycle. The prophesy has been part of their tribe’s oral tradition that has dated back since time immemorial. This is their prophesy, as recited by White Feather of the Bear Clan to Reverend David Young in 1948.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying. Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.”

Forget about how the first eight Signs seem eerily familiar to events and characters in the past century. Instead, concentrate on the final Sign, the Ninth sign. There is no way you could miss the meaning behind the phrase. An object of blue color, hurtling in from space would fall and end everything. The Age of Purification?
 

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you know something doesn't want to go out of my mind. the post of "Giray Khan the Brave" in this thread
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=21567.msg258922#msg258922
about this crop circle formations on the milk hill in 2009 and the analysis of it on _http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/time2011b.html.
if those CC are unice and want us to tell something what could it be ?
to watch out for a "unknown object" in the sky on the new moon arround the 3 of June this year that
could have a significance to earth in the near future ?
 

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This image of Comet Elenin's path through the solar system was published on the 20th. Click on the image for a bigger picture. - Source
 

HiThere

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It seems that the "X" in the crop circle could be Elenin, from what is written in the article "NASA's buzz about comet Elenin" at
_http://beforeitsnews.com/story/513/009/NASAs_buzz_about_comet_Elenin.html :

"Elenin has recently entered the inner solar system and should pass through Mars orbit by the end of June sometime."

It seems to fit (roughly) with the position of "X" in the cc at _http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/time2011b.html:

milkhillx-2.jpg


Edit: My statement above is not correct; according to the Orbit Diagram at _http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb, Elenin will be well outside of Mars' orbit on the third of June, so no match with "X" in the crop cirle then.

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Well, I'll take a crack at it. First off, this letter doesn't really "prove" anything in my mind other than there being an executive committee that is becoming rather interested in Near Earth Objects. I thought the report was extremely wordy to convey a few basic ideas, so I've decided to boil it down into a paragraph by paragraph summary of things I thought were important.

The stated purpose of the report is to develop a policy for notifying Federal agencies and emergency management institutions of NEO threats, protecting the US from potential expected collisions, and implementing a deflection campaign with international bodies if necessary.

The first section discusses NEO detection activities and opens by defining a NEO as an object that passes within about 30 million miles of Earth. It is known that there have been major impacts in the distant past, but the probability of a major impact on a human time scale is extremely low. Although we are only showered by lots of harmless particles each day, the possibility of a major collision with a more hazardous object should not be ignored.

We have a hard time ascertaining NEO threats because of the multitude of factors that must be considered when determining a trajectory. This is further complicated by changing orbits caused by disturbances in gravitation or solar radiation output, thus NEOs must be continually monitored.

To address this problem, congress issued a mandate to NASA to catalog and track all NEOs with a diameter greater than 140 meters by 2020.

The report then goes on to list different partners who are involved in this such as the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the National Science Foundation, the Air Force, and the University of Pisa.

The next paragraph says that NASA has almost completed it's goal of cataloging objects larger than 1km and found no threats to civilization in the next century.

The next paragraph tells us that twelve years of NEO observations have expanded the catalog from 499 to 7319 objects, 1142 of which are considered potentially hazardous. The report also notes that we have probably found less than 5% of NEOs less than 1km in diameter.

NASA is greatly expanding its efforts to track these objects through further partnerships with the Air Force, NSF, and international institutions.

It goes on to talk about WISE, which has discovers 119 NEOs, 19 which are considered potentially hazardous. WISE has exhausted its supply of coolant, and its mission ended on February 17, 2011.

The next paragraph goes further into proposed intergovernmental partnerships and discusses the recommendation that congress authorize a dedicated space-based telescope which would significantly accelerate NEO detection. No such project is being planned.

The last paragraph of this section has some interesting information. We are told that the President has increased the NEO detection budget about 350% over 2010, and that the New National Space Policy specifically directs NASA to pursue capabilities to track and catalog NEOs to reduce the risk of harm to humans from unexpected impacts. [Could all of that have something to do with some foreknowledge of Elenin? We don't know but it is interesting to speculate.]

The second section discusses notification procedures in the event of a probable impact. FEMA and Homeland Security are designated to be the primary disseminators of information after a notification is received from NASA. The report states clearly that NASA must issue an official notification before FEMA can do anything. In addition, NASA notification procedures would only occur after necessary observations, analysis, and characterizations had occurred to determine if a threat was credible. Depending on perceived threat level and urgency, such events could unfold over the course of many years. [Now I find this to be a very interesting point. Basically NASA has complete control over whether or not any information is released. Although, there are many international projects, it seems that NASA has a hand in all of them. If NASA decided not to spill the beans on a particular threat or withhold information for some reason, the rest of the world would be left in the dark, so to speak. One wonders if such events have been unfolding over the course of many years, as per the policy outlined in the report.]

Anyway, moving on, if information was released through FEMA, and the threat was deemed credible to the US, the National Warning System would be used to relay alerts to potentially affected regions. The National Response Framework would go into effect, and FEMA already has prescripted messages regarding the size, composition, and possible hazards related to the incoming space object.

In the case of a more international event, the Department of State would be responsible for providing bilateral notifications through diplomatic channels such as the UN an NATO.

The third section deals with responses to an impact event, and there is comparatively little information. All I could pick out of interest was the existence of 28 Management Assistance Task forces which would be deployed to an afflicted area in order to establish a "unified command structure" and "assist in structural collapse incidents or search and rescue operations." [In other words, there isn't really plan other than establishing a paramilitary zone and trying to pick up the pieces and decide what to do next.]

The last section deals with developing a procedure for potential deflection activities. In this section it becomes much more clear that the plan is that there really is no plan, at least as far as the general public is concerned. The first paragraph states that the first step in deflecting these objects is to continue to enhance our capabilities and efforts for detecting these objects. NASA is functioning as the lead for these detection efforts and this responsibility has been reaffirmed by the new national space policy.

The main sentence of the second paragraph is "Moreover, the US government's assessment of potential deflection/mitigation plans is at an early stage of development and not yet ready for implementation."

The third paragraph recommends that NASA take the lead role in creating such plans and should coordinate with FEMA, Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, the Department of State and the international community in a "senior-level interagency simulation exercise to explore how the US government and the international community might respond to an impending NEO threat under a variety of scenarios." [Perhaps such an exercise is a temporal marker for the immediacy of an impact event.]

The next paragraph goes into outreach programs with the private sector and international forums which have been held on the subject. It might be interesting to note that there has been an international working group in existence since 2007 dealing with the detection NEOs and and possible international procedures for dealing with them.

Mr Holdren concludes his letter by saying the recommended framework is an appropriate and effective way forward in regards to NEO protection issues at this stage. Continuing to improve the nation's capabilities for detecting and preparing for future NEO threats is a priority for his office.

Commentary: Now, from where I sit, Mr. Holdren isn't really talking about Elenin per se, as these people claim. Based on the research done on SOTT, it seems that Elenin is more of an electrical discharge event rather than an impact event. The main thrust of this letter is dealing with potential impact events, electrical discharge events are not even hinted at as far as I can tell. Elenin does not seem to fit the profile for the type of NEO described here UNLESS it is the leading edge of the comet cluster long predicted by the Cassiopaeans. Now this ties into the Black Death prediction that they recently made. Will the delivery system for the plague be a series of Tunguska-type events that will cause a major disruption on the Earth, or will it be a spectacular meteor shower that appears at first to be more or less harmless? Based on how I interpreted the transcripts I was leaning toward the latter, but that's just my opinion based on the Cassiopaeans saying "Possible yes" when questioned about Elenin causing a major disruption this year.

Now when one strips away the intellectual neutrality present throughout this letter, there were a couple of red flags for me that perhaps hinted at a subdued sense of urgency underneath an otherwise calm tone. The first point, as the blogger pointed out, was the changes in orbits caused by fluctuations in the sun's luminosity and various gravitational fields. We know that there are some unusual things going on in the solar system and the sun itself is somehow being altered by the approach of Elenin and Nemesis. Thus it is reasonable to assume that these foreign bodies are going to knock all of these NEOs around a bit and perhaps throw a few of them into Earth crossing orbits. Perhaps that was a subtle admission that the solar system is about to become a more active place. Then there is the dramatic increase in the NEO budget. The government is known for throwing tons of money away into useless projects from the point of view of normal humanity; why does the budget suddenly triple for this rather worthwhile project? Then there is the fact that Mr Holdren considers NEO detection/deflection a priority for his office. Why is the subject of cometary impacts, laughed away just a few years ago as alarmist, or too improbable to warrant attention, suddenly considered a "priority" for a major government office? It seems that they know something, but they are keeping it heavily veiled in official communications so that no one can definitively ascertain what they do and don't know. It is also concerning that NASA appears to be the gatekeeper for all knowledge related to this subject, and such concentration of power in one news source would make it easy to maintain a conspiracy of silence regarding this subject. The letter even calls for more authority to be delegated to NASA. We are pretty certain that NASA is a big player in the UFO cover-up, so their track record doesn't bode well for the general well-being of humanity.

I don't really see this letter as a "smoking gun." When one reads very deeply into it, one may see certain connections that may or may not be there, and I think the letter is written that way by design. "Smoking guns" remain safely sealed in the black world. Anyway, that is what I got out of it, the letter is worth a look but I don't think it tells us a lot that we don't already know.
 

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http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/comet-elenin-fulfill-2012-maya-and-hopi.html said:
Second scientific: LPO with an elliptical Orbit of ~11800 Years, can not have a small mass, that is simple given from the law of physics. Objects with smaller mass having short elliptical Orbit, from 2 up to 1000 years or so, like Asteroids or Comets.

I'm an amateur in astrophysics. But I think I remember that the orbit is independent from the mass.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/comet-elenin-fulfill-2012-maya-and-hopi.html said:
Therefore: Objects with bigger mass staying in long period Orbits. The fact that Elenin comet (C2010 X1 ) enters our solar system close to the ecliptic with a Period of ~11’800 Years, makes this Object very dangerous. So it is good to keep an eye on it.

It's mentioned elsewhere that Elenin has a hyperbolic orbit. That means that the period would be much larger than 12000 years.
 

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Hithere said:
It seems that the "X" in the crop circle could be Elenin, from what is written in the article "NASA's buzz about comet Elenin" at
_http://beforeitsnews.com/story/513/009/NASAs_buzz_about_comet_Elenin.html :

"Elenin has recently entered the inner solar system and should pass through Mars orbit by the end of June sometime."

It seems to fit (roughly) with the position of "X" in the cc at _http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/anasazi/time2011b.html:

milkhillx-2.jpg


Edit: My statement above is not correct; according to the Orbit Diagram at _http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb, Elenin will be well outside of Mars' orbit on the third of June, so no match with "X" in the crop cirle then.

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yes it is olso written in the article that this couldn't be Elenin. but what is it if it exists and how big is it ? does the crop circles indicate that this object does not really have a orbit ? (because no kurve is drawn on to it like on the other planets) and will it effect earth if it exist ?
and why the circle arround the object what's the meaning ? I don't agree with the article that suggests that it was made to show us hey look at this object. I think they wouldn't do something so plain easy . I think it is more likely that this circle arround the object just tell's us more about the "object" it self.
some possibilities why "they" put a circle arround it:
- it is not a single object
- it is surrounded with something
-it is not a natural object (also because no orbit is shown)
-it is not limited on this spot
-it grows or shrinks
...etc
 

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Data said:
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/comet-elenin-fulfill-2012-maya-and-hopi.html said:
Second scientific: LPO with an elliptical Orbit of ~11800 Years, can not have a small mass, that is simple given from the law of physics. Objects with smaller mass having short elliptical Orbit, from 2 up to 1000 years or so, like Asteroids or Comets.

I'm an amateur in astrophysics. But I think I remember that the orbit is independent from the mass.

http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/05/comet-elenin-fulfill-2012-maya-and-hopi.html said:
Therefore: Objects with bigger mass staying in long period Orbits. The fact that Elenin comet (C2010 X1 ) enters our solar system close to the ecliptic with a Period of ~11’800 Years, makes this Object very dangerous. So it is good to keep an eye on it.

It's mentioned elsewhere that Elenin has a hyperbolic orbit. That means that the period would be much larger than 12000 years.

I don't know much about astrophysics either, but I know that the gravitational pull is proportional to the masses of the two objects. So a small object would probably escape the pull from the Sun at it's furthest point if the orbit is too big. Thus a long orbit suggests a larger object. However, the comet may be visiting the inner solar system for the first time, in which case there would be no reason to assume it's big. It can be small and this would be its last visit too. Hopefully a scientist will correct me if I'm wrong.
 

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For whatever its worth, though James McCanney has been kind of off in the deep end lately, he has been quite insistent that Elenin is a very small comet and isn't that big of a deal. What he has been harping about is all the confusion and disinfo that has been propagated across the web about Elenin, which he thinks is cover/distortion related to something we haven't seen or been told about yet. With regard to Elenin's size, he makes the point that in its present location in the inner solar system, if it was big, it would be visible to the naked eye.
 

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What the Cs said about the size:
A: Elenin is already taking its toll.

Q: (Perceval) How big is it?

A: 500km diameter along the long axis.

Q: (Perceval) At least it's not Venus...

A: It is growing.

Q: [discussion of answer] (L) Anything else about it?

A: And that is only the core.

Is 500 km actually big for comet? On the CC looks much bigger, like a planet.
 

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tonosama said:
What the Cs said about the size:
A: Elenin is already taking its toll.

Q: (Perceval) How big is it?

A: 500km diameter along the long axis.

Q: (Perceval) At least it's not Venus...

A: It is growing.

Q: [discussion of answer] (L) Anything else about it?

A: And that is only the core.

Is 500 km actually big for comet? On the CC looks much bigger, like a planet.

yes it looks bigger. but it is not likely that the object in the CC's is Elenin.
and remember Laura said that she is not certain if they not actually meant 50 km.
and the C's said: " And that is only the core." which suggest that the whole thing is bigger.
 
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