Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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XPan
The Living Force
From what I have understood so far is, that the corona virus family in combination with the developed vaccines as well earlier miserably failed ones on animals who all died (during the past 18 years), it creates two kinds of anti-bodies: One are neutralizing antibodies (e.g. leading to weakening symptoms as a result), and the other type of antibodies are binding types, which do the opposite; creating disease or enlarging it / overreacting to it. Which would correspond to the claim that the Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine indeed has the potential ability to worsen the symptoms in a patient after injections (e.g. auto-immune diseases etc).The results of the Pfizer vaccine clinical trials have just been published in peer-reviewed journal. The paper was accompanied by an editorial where the New England Journal of medicine euphemistically states:
So basically the clinical trials conducted by Pfizer and that led FDA approvals and billions in sales doesn't prove:
- if the severe case are more severe in vaccinated persons or not
- the scope of the side effects once the vaccine is administered to millions
- the long-term side effects
- how long it will be effective
It means that it is totally possible that the Pfizer vaccine worsens the symptoms of COVID-19, has a number of long-term side effects, has severe short term effects and will be ineffective soon after administration (and totally ineffective against other variants of SARS-COV-2 that were not tested)
And this gloomy picture is only based on the data collected and published by Pfizer!
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Given that the virus never has been isolated, purified nor been proven to be the primary reason for a particular disease (Koch's Postulates), one wonders, what exactly is it they put into the vaccine if the claimed virus never been isolated ? I mean what is the true RNA genome based on when they made the vaccines ?
To claim to have it isolated the virus is one thing. To actually have it in truth purified and isolated - another thing. Here I refer to Dr. Andrew Kaufmann, member of the World Doctor Alliance, who looked into the 4 studies who claim to have isolated and purified the virus - but when he scrutinized the procedures - it showed to be no true purification of a new virus entity.
XPan
The Living Force
When you listen to Dr Wolfgang Wodarg from Germany (he was part of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe Health Committee, Physician, Pulmonary Specialist, and epidemiologist as well former member of the German Parliament) - he explains that viruses change constantly. The so called "Wuhan Virus" does not even exist today - because it has mutated more than 400 times since them then. That is exactly what virus do by nature: change constantly (I would say yes; according the established Germ-Theory)
Unexpected side effect? Australia scraps Covid-19 vaccine development after trials lead to false positives for HIV
Australia has abandoned the development of a domestically-made coronavirus vaccine after participants in clinical trials for the jab returned false positive test results for HIV.www.rt.com
Very interesting. Claims were made earlier this year that this virus was made in a lab and part of the evidence to back up those claims was that the virus contained segments of HIV. Anti-bodies produced in response to Australia's vaccine (which contain SARS-CoV-2) appear to be the same (or similar) anti-bodies produced in response to HIV viruses.
So the point of this virus was always to compromise human health (immune system suppression) to make people more controllable. So keep your immune system healthy and vibrant and you can have reasonable confidence that you'll be ok.
In regard of using a "lab-made" virus with the aim of damaging the world's population, it really isn't very effective, given how quickly viruses change. A "lab-made" virus, would simply loose it's original abilities very quickly.
The antibodies in our immune system is a highly intelligent system. An antibody doesn't just work against "one" virus. That is a misconception often touted in media. And our immune system isn't all based on anti-bodies either. In fact, you can be immune even without the presence of antibodies. Food for thought.
When you come in contact with a virus - the immune system develops a broad spectrum of cross-immunity, for most other viruses that are similar in structure. (That's also the reason with any virus coming from the corona family - two dozens exist - made most of us already immune since earlier times we have been in touch with. Those corona viruses are with us every winter, and probably as long as humanity existed).
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The claim that parts of a hiv-virus has been incorporated into a lab-made corona virus, I find personally dubious to begin with. Perhaps one of those trails being put out on purpose to confuse people. To begin with - the HIV virus has never been isolated, purified and cultivated.
Before covid-19, the "HIV causes AIDS" narrative was the biggest medical fraud in modern human history, a large money making machine, and thanks to the familiar Mr Fauci, who already back then made sure that the extreme lethal drug "AZT" (3'-Azido-3'-Deoxythymidine) was chosen as the primary medicine" against "AIDS" - and with it, hundred thousands died back in the 80s and early 90s. They died of their "AIDS" symptoms ... you get from taking AZT !
If you look at the package of "AZT" (you find a black-orange skull printed on - as well the words "for Laboratory use only. Not for drug, household or other uses". It is a drug that destroys DNA, attacks all vital organs, and is highly cancerogenic.
Its origin came from a time of the 50s and early 60s, during which scientists believed that cancer was caused by viruses. They created the most lethal human drug ever produced; All animal died in the trials. The project was later abandoned. Until the hysterical AIDS crisis emerged in the 80s.
Dr Fauci with AZT in the hiv pandemic, same Dr Fauci we got to know from 2020 with Covid-19.
The cocktails that are administered today for hiv/aids patients, are derivates from the original AZT, used in combination and in weaker dosages.
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If the claimed HIV virus even exists (Dr Duisburg says it does) it is a so called "retro" virus. A retro virus doesn't do anything. In particularly it does not cause infection, disease, contagion, or AIDS for that matter. Only if you combine all of the worlds retro-viruses in a body, then perhaps something might rise from it. Otherwise - not.
The so called HIV tests are fraudulent, in particularly fast hiv tests are ! They only test against two proteins, instead of 5 or 6, which is a mandatory standard that should be used - but with only 2 proteins gives highly erroneous results.
This way, the HIV test is a lottery. On top of that, 73 different conditions create positive HIV test results. Such as pregnancy, vaccinations, flu, heyfever, and so on.
Also: there is a test where they count T-Cells; if they go down below a certain threshold, you are considered to have "AIDS". Now go to the beach, take a sunbath all day - and then take a T-Cell counting test in the evening: you would be considered to have AIDS, due to very low amount of T-Cells in your blood. They always fall after a long sun bath. But that's not AIDS, is it ?
To understand the Covid-19 Plandemic, you can study the can of worms called "HIV causes AIDS" - and you will be surprised how well the script fits into both at several levels.
Retro viruses are barely "alive" because they only contain 8 genes (compared to 20000-30000 genes for a flu virus), and therefore barely can replicate, barely even survive. Back in the 80s and 90s, they gave the "HIV" retro virus almost magical powers, claiming that it turns into different mutations and versions.... but that no retro virus can do !!!
They are simply to weak. They do not mutate. They reside harmlessly dormant in our cells, and most of us have a couple of hundred of them in our bodies.
Ocean
The Living Force
It sure is spooky how things from the past can predict the future.
But this is an ongoing war, and a spiritual one, on many fronts, the election coup being only the most visible one at the moment. Listen to Anthony Patch and what he was saying 6 years ago:
Prediction from 2014 [Anthony Patch Interview]
But this is an ongoing war, and a spiritual one, on many fronts, the election coup being only the most visible one at the moment. Listen to Anthony Patch and what he was saying 6 years ago:
XPan
The Living Force
German Dr Wolfgang Wodarg also looked at those numbers recently, and came to the conclusion that the Pfizer/BioNTech Vaccine and it's trial numbers ended up at a futile 0.35% risk reduction (!!). It means you need to give 300 people the Pfizer vaccine, in order to protect 1 person. The rest; 299 people have no use - and on top have to carry the potential risk of side effects.
Mind boggling.
XPan
The Living Force
Also a highly interesting book is "Virus Mania" (2015, in english)
written by Torsten Egelbrecht and Claus Köhnlein from Germany, and Robert F Kennedy Jr., Foreword by Etienne de Harven (Pioneer in Virology) and Joachim Mutter (Expert in enviromental Medicine) giving you deeper understanding about viruses, vaccines and pandemics.
About Avian Flu (H5N1), Cervial Cancer (HPV), SARS, BSE, Hepatitis C, AIDS, Polio - and how the medical industry continually invents Epidemics making Billion Dollar profits at our expense.
"The Central aim of this book is to steer discussion back to a real scientific debate and put medicine back on a path of an impartial analysis of the facts. It will put medical experiments, clinical trails, statistics and government policies under the microscope, revealing that the peoplecharged with protecting our health and safety have deviated as pharmaceuticals, lifestyle drugs, pesticides, heavy metals, pollution, stress and processed (and sometimes gentetically modified) foods.
All of these can heavily damage the body of humans and animals and even kill them. And precisely these factors typically prevail where the victims of alleged viruses live and work. To substantiate these claims, the authors cite dozens of highly renowned scientists, among them the Nobel laureates Kary Mullis, Barbara McClintock, Walter Gilbert, Sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet and microbiologist and Pulitzer Prize winner Rene Dubos. The book presents approximately 1,100 pertinent scientific references, the majority of which have been published recently."
We discussed these concepts and this book earlier in this thread. It's a great read indeed, but careful of going to the other extreme to the point of denying the existence of viruses. The latter discredits the research about toxicity and other valid concepts shared in the book.
So far the statements of virologist Luis Marcelo Martinez.
They tell us that we need a vaccine to overcome a virus, but what we are now discovering with astonishment is that they are thinking of putting a vaccine without there being a virus, the vaccine was already on their road map and what they want to do is take the final step to implement it, what those who have organized all this did not imagine is the resistance they are going to encounter.
They intend to castrate the herd, but it's not that easy.
They intend to eliminate many, but it's not that easy.
They want to genetically modify the human being, but they can't even imagine the fierce battle they're going to face.
To fight against these vaccines, we count on human forces and also on divine forces; divine forces act without having to give press conferences. The divinity acts without anyone noticing it.
It is clear that they want to modify our DNA; they have been trying to do so for some time now. The authorities are never interested in your health or mine, never, everything they do is for control and manipulation. They are looking hard for total control of the farm.
(Video have subs)
XPan
The Living Force
That is of course a can of worms
I fully realize that - because the subject of virus has so many levels one can get lost. I often ask myself self; who are in reality (closer) to truth in all that ? And how to you get pass by the programming ? (Because the subject is very complex, and yet important to understand the narratives revolving established medicine - because it is then the way people get treated accordingly. But that does not mean it is in truth the right way. So, should we not know more about it ?
Therefore I think it is important to look into both sides of the coin; in order words: "Germ-Theory" vs "Terrain Theory".
I too encounter many times a conflict in me, between "does virus exist ?" and "virus do not exist ?"
It is in essence a matter of two themes (in order to start somewhere). But so far and most of the time - we only get to know about The One and Only Established Truth; the Germ Theory based on the ideas of psychopath Pasteur 170 year ago - which also marked the beginnig of vaccines. Via Rockefeller 100 year ago it became established science at universities. Since then it makes the bulk of Mainstream Medicine ever since.
Yet - we also have "Terrain-Theory" based on Antoine Béchamp. Now what's up with that ? Well the book Virus Mania does highlight that area, among other books.
We also deal with scamdemics like "HIV causes AIDS", "SARS", "MERS", and so on. (Jon Roppoport does a great job, starting back in 1987 with the bok AIDS INC).
Recently deceased David Crowe did an excellent job on medical research on SARS 2002/03 (how it REALLY happened, what actually went on in absolutely deep fine details) - and it wasn't much about a new virus - but the medication that was used. He also did excellent research on Covid-19 "Flaws in the Corona Virus Pandemic Theory", "The Infectious Myth", and the errors in "Antibody Testing for Covid-19".
All freely available at David Crowe's homepage
Exosomes
Then we have those tiny things, called Exosomes which look like viruses, and are are as minuscule like viruses - but are no virus ! Their origin comes from human cells. The human cell can out of a "library" of 250.000 combinations create a specific RNA molecule in order to face a certain toxin, which needs to be neutralized.
Those are made by human cells - not something contagious from the outside passing by and captured. A electron microscope does not reveal Exosomes other then small dots (often thought to be viruses). Because everything on the table of a electron microscope - is killed instantly. Becoming fixed. Taken out of context (out of its living environment).
Sott.net had once a highly interesting article back in winter-spring 2020 about these Exosomes - which only were discovered 30 years ago.
Then there was Rife's special (actually unique) microscope from the 20s with up to 60.000x enlargement (he worked closely with Leitz Wezlar in Germany to get the necessary special optical components) - in which he could study LIVING viral material changing - and it did in cycles He saw the cycles of "tiny entities", going from viral 3-4 times, then turning into bacterium and then into fungus entities - only to disperse later into particle fragments - and start anew (in totally 16x cycles with the different stages)
Measle Virus ?
Also remember: At the highest court of Germany in Stuttgart back in 2017, in which Microbiologist and Virologist
Dr Stefan Lanka claimed that the Measles Virus do not cause disase, and vaccines were not effective. He was badly attacked and sued - but at the German Federal Supreme Court he successfully won the case - because it could not be established to find proof on the existence of a Measles virus.
It is a crucial event that passed by the most.
I believe, in the spirit of fairness - more should look deeper into both sides of the aspects revolving medicine, virus and vaccines: e.g. looking deeper into the "Germ-Theory" and "Terrain-Theory".
Of course is carefulness necessary - like with any material you read, it needs to mature, be gauged and sometimes even put aside for a while, in order to be able to continue later to "collect and integrate the bits and pieces".
Every single concept and name you mentioned has been discussed in this forum either on this thread, or separate dedicated ones. You can use the search function in the forum and contribute yourself in those threads. The word of caution above is valid because the tendency is to be carried away to the other extreme to the peril of the valid research that de-emphasizes the germ theory. It's discredits alternative view points when someone adds that "therefore viruses don't exist!". Kind of like the fancy cointelpro program for smart people where there's a great deal of truth and a final little lie to twist the whole thing.
XPan
The Living Force
Thank you for pointing that out
to use the search function. I have not done it yet. Still a bit overwhelmed
to manage to navigate among... well everything here. But I get there 
One step at the time. Also yes, I do agree, with what you point out - it is easy to get "carried away". I know this from the feeling from within has a peculiar vibrating signature - and it can indeed become a potential trap (kind of becoming a "Sorcerers Apprentice")
A well stablished speciality of mine
I do however not go that far, claiming that virus' do not exist - only that there is a lot of flakyness done in the name of virus which does feel aligned with reality. The issue with cointelpro is a tricky one - I already noticed this when reading Laura's articles about the subject. I mean to discern that little twist in the end of a long row of truth, which can in effect spoil everything.
I have often wondered about that...
Thanks again.
Well back in this thread, it became patently obvious that (in Canada anyway) occupational bodies had been primed to ensure that employers were used to a) regulate their own workers due to changes in claim liability (covid-presumption clauses) and b) to protect their workers it was incumbent on them to raise the bar for the public who interact. Public Health Orders did the rest.
Jumping forward in time - to vaccination time, the same pressures were to be used, except that vaccinations are not mandatory. Problem for them. Recently, there has been a lot of priming of the public and employers (especially employer groups and their associations) in the discussion of making it mandatory, with the lawyers offering advice. As a sample:
www.ctvnews.ca
The stage is set for a showdown, especially by those global-companies who all took the knee in these reset times:
In other Canadian news - in keeping with the vaccine theme, the Justinian-Trudeau government that currently is being operating by remote string, has assured Canadians that should they happen to become vaccine-injured, which is highly unlikely they say, We the government have a plan for you:
www.healthing.ca
Trust Us!
Jumping forward in time - to vaccination time, the same pressures were to be used, except that vaccinations are not mandatory. Problem for them. Recently, there has been a lot of priming of the public and employers (especially employer groups and their associations) in the discussion of making it mandatory, with the lawyers offering advice. As a sample:
No legal grounds for employers to force employees to get vaccinated, say experts
Employers won't be able to force – only encourage – employees to get a COVID-19 vaccine, say legal and ethics experts.
The stage is set for a showdown, especially by those global-companies who all took the knee in these reset times:
In other Canadian news - in keeping with the vaccine theme, the Justinian-Trudeau government that currently is being operating by remote string, has assured Canadians that should they happen to become vaccine-injured, which is highly unlikely they say, We the government have a plan for you:
Liberals announce a vaccine-harms compensation program
www.healthing.ca
Trust Us!
The federal Liberals have announced a compensation program for anyone who is harmed by the COVID-19 vaccine — or any other vaccine that’s approved by Health Canada. {such reassurance}
“In the very unlikely event of an adverse reaction though, we want to make sure Canadians have fair access to support,” said Prime Minister Justin Trudeau. {hmm. a vaccine injury can be for life, Mr. Trudeau, and yet you make it sound as a trifle}
If Canada were to create such a program — requiring cooperation with the provinces and territories — we would join just 19 other countries around the world that have some variety of a vaccine compensation policy. {taxpayer policy - and good luck making a claim}
Dr. Lynora Saxinger, a University of Alberta professor and infectious disease specialist, said there’s a risk the messaging that the vaccine is super safe is undermined by the announcement. {you think?}
“And so, it depends, I guess, on whether you think people’s main fear is an adverse reaction or their main fear is not getting support in the event of an adverse reaction,” Saxinger said. {good grief}
It’s unclear what the program might actually look like, but Trudeau told reporters it would be to support those who experience an “adverse reaction.” It’s unclear how he is defining that — or what form supports from the government might take.
Tim Caulfied, the Canada Research Chair in health law and policy at the University of Alberta who has spoken extensively about misinformation in medicine, said such a policy creates “challenging communications issues, even if the policy makes sense.”
“On the one hand, they make sense because we’re asking Canadians to get vaccinated as a public health act, an act for their community and therefore, if there’s injury it makes sense to compensate them for it,” he said.
“On the other hand, it does create this impression injuries happen and require compensation.”
As the government points out, adverse reactions from vaccines are incredibly rare. {oh, and in this covid case there is such advanced efficacy to go on?} For example, anaphylaxis or a severe allergic reaction, occur in one in 760,000 vaccinations, according to an article in the Canadian Medical Association Journal.
Mild reactions — such as swelling around the injection site — are common, as the body reacts to build immunity, says the Public Health Agency of Canada in the news release.
According to a paper, from the Public Health Agency of Canada, they’re even rarer for some vaccines: the tetanus shot has adverse reactions in one in 10 million injections; the flu shot ranges between one in 500,000 and one in one million.
{all deflection away from RNA vaccines that have never been tried - ah, mild reactions only we can expect}
Caulfield also says that a review of the vaccination program in the United States suggests that some of the compensation are for things such as shoulder injuries at the vaccination puncture sites. {}
“We’re not talking about some serious, adverse, long-term injury,” he said.
The program would likely be “no fault,” meaning the vaccine maker wouldn’t be admitting liability for the harms caused. {well of course, can't have that}
Quebec is the only province in Canada that already has a vaccine compensation program. Between 1985 and 2018, the province disbursed $5.4 million in 43 cases; there had been 228 claims, 187 of which were deemed likely enough to be evaluated.
A survey of other vaccine compensations programs, and published in September by the Public Health Agency of Canada, says eligibility requirements vary; in some, compensation is available only for mandatory vaccines, in others, all vaccines recommended by public health or in cases where vaccines are known to have an associated risk.
Countries also opt for a variety of standards of proof and may have administrative boards to determine whether or not someone’s “injury” was actually caused by vaccination. {lot's of precedence for this in refusals}
Tonight my family had dinner inside a California restaurant that has refused to follow the governor's statewide order to close dine in. We'll be doing it again next weekend at a different restaurant. Reminds me of a Soviet saying, the government pretends to make the laws, and we pretend to follow them. Merry Christmas! They aren't able to cancel Christmas.
