I went to the store today and it was pretty busy. Gallons of water were nearly gone, bread was selling, and the canned foods isle was the busiest. I got some baking soda, but you can tell it was selling very well as there was only one row left. There were stockers filling the shelves, and they seemed bewildered.

Greater Anchorage has a lot of military and state and federal employees, so maybe they are getting hints to stock up, as we are dependent on food being shipped up here. It is also payday for many, so that helps.
 
Annnnnd, all the toilet paper in my town is gone.

There's obviously a hierarchy of "Clued In-ness", and I'd guess that the TP hoarders are still on page one of the manual.

I was in the local grocery store today, picking up a few quarantine essentials. (What I consider essential and what others consider essential are stocked in completely different aisles, I noticed. There was actually a discount on the normally expensive bottles of Avocado Oil I enjoy. Go me. -And people still haven't figured out that Vitamin C is a valuable commodity which is likely going to be absent from shelves in the near future. (Drugs and supplements are clearly covered in a later chapter.)

Anyway, while the bathroom tissue stocks were completely gone, (a friend told me that the owner had an entire truck load delivered this morning, only to see it wiped out by noon), there were nonetheless no fat ladies slapping each other in the aisles. Everybody was shopping civilly, with no apocalypse level cartloads that I could see. -Which suggests either that people were taking their time about it; buying a few extra items here and there to put away with each shopping trip, or they simply haven't worked out the scale of what they're facing yet. A bit of both, I suspect, (though I personally hope more of the first!).

I have been encouraging people, since around 2006, to have at least a month's supply of essential goods in their cupboards. Talk about leaving things to the last second!

-And it doesn't take much effort! You can collect enough food for a month or two over the course of a few shopping trips without even standing out terribly in a cashier's lineup. Our production and distribution system should be able to handle that kind of an uptick in purchasing. When people line up calmly and head toward the exits without pushing, it always goes much more smoothly than a mad crush.

In dense population centers, however, and given some of those images of crazy crowds outside grocery stores we've been treated to in recent social media, I'd say civil lineups are a regional luxury. It would have been better if people started taking care of this stuff a few weeks ago. That's the trouble with herd mentality; when everybody takes comfort in not being singled out, when they all do the same thing at the same time, we see bottlenecks and stampedes when they DO decide to finally activate. There's a reason we left 2D behind! This latest graduating class may have been moved ahead prematurely.., but who am I to judge?

Well.., I'm the guy with a month's supply of Avocado Oil in my cupboard. And perhaps more to the point, I'm also the guy whose body considers that a valid meal plan and not a salad dressing.

Different chapter and verse entirely.
 
It's obviously far more appealing to people to believe in either some kind of 'evil plot' by governments to spread the virus
Another dot I would link is the August 23rd 2014 session about Ebola virus:
Q: (Odyssey) There was a video going around YouTube about how the quarantine centers and the detention centers line up on a map. Is there a link between this immigration situation and Ebola?

A: Only partly. It can be used as a cover for deliberate spreading of virus.
BEIJING — One of China's biggest animal feed producers said it had used a radio transmitter to combat crooks using drones to drop pork products contaminated with African swine fever on its pig farms, as part of a racket to profit from the health scare. Dec 20, 2019
I don't think the virus was initially leaked purposely, but it could be getting some help now! Creating rampant hysteria and almost out-and-out panic is certainly upping the stress/anxiety levels which suppresses immune systems, so maybe an indirect spreading of virus susceptibility at a minimum?

All 23 branches of Columbus Metropolitan libraries have closed through at least April 6. Local Westerville library followed suit. Signs posted now in grocery stores stating purchasing limits on individual items.

By damn, it IS the Black Plague! 💀
"Ring around the rosie, a pocket full of posies. Ashes, ashes, we all fall down!"
 
Same here in US. I went to costco today, to find lot of empty shelves. they are wiping the carts after each use. paper stuff is completely empty. rice, eggs, chicken, water are empty. But beef, vegetables are half empty , but still there ( I guess it is related to food preference of the shoopers). No body touching clothes though. I never saw Costco this empty. It is like Home depot before hurricane. Same with Walmart.

Many companies are going 2 or 3 week shut downs. This is unprecedented. In the news they were saying 38 million can get effected by this ( almost 10% of US population). some medical authorities even saying that this is good preparation exercise, even if it turn out to be not bad and will be useful, when it becomes bad.
Oh yes, I forgot to tell all chicken gone, just one left I took it for my dogs, at the store. No more rice,no more pasta. Later I went out with the dogs, the streets completely void of people apart a little Cuban bar-restaurant with people inside drinking and laughing. No cars on the streets, silence everywhere asif the Peste will be here very soon.

I talk to my sister that lives in Quebec and is a nurse. Over there, some can confirm, the histeria is beginning. Stores void of Toilet Paper. jajaja. She told me this:

The other day we had a meeting with 8 doctors and nurses of the hospital. We had a rencontre with a very important scientific, someone who is not just important in his realm of science but is responsible of a very important job. I will not give you his name. The thing is that this man talked about the Corona virus and was afraid. He said that this virus is new, something that he never saw before implying that it was created in a lab, not coming from nature. He said that he will become, the virus, more virulent with time. We were so surprised to see how scare this man was.

My sister remember when the H1N1 and she said that doctors and nurses are much more scare than then, not knowing exactly how things will go now.

While here all the little shops will close, I imagine, the bars, the little restaurants, the coffee-shops, the book-shops. There is also interdiction to go to parks.

I try to pray, ask help to C's to give me courage and strength.
 
Oh yes, I forgot to tell all chicken gone, just one left I took it for my dogs, at the store. No more rice,no more pasta. Later I went out with the dogs, the streets completely void of people apart a little Cuban bar-restaurant with people inside drinking and laughing. No cars on the streets, silence everywhere asif the Peste will be here very soon.

I talk to my sister that lives in Quebec and is a nurse. Over there, some can confirm, the histeria is beginning. Stores void of Toilet Paper. jajaja. She told me this:



My sister remember when the H1N1 and she said that doctors and nurses are much more scare than then, not knowing exactly how things will go now.

While here all the little shops will close, I imagine, the bars, the little restaurants, the coffee-shops, the book-shops. There is also interdiction to go to parks.

I try to pray, ask help to C's to give me courage and strength.

I really enjoy reading your posts, loreta. They give me courage and strength.:-)
 
A different perspective on why hospitals are struggling with this outbreak. Makes a lot of sense, and sadly more people will die because of the way the system is dealing with the virus, than because of the virus itself.



Italy: “ICU wards are overflowing”
Mar13 by Jon Rappoport


by Jon Rappoport
March 13, 2020
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Some people, even if they have fallen over a cliff, would, on the way down, shout: “The virus must be dangerous! What else could it be?”
“People are dying! It’s got to be the virus!”
How about this? “The ICU hospital wards in Italy are overflowing. It’s the virus.”
Step back and think. THINK IT THROUGH.
Watching a recent interview with an Italian public health official, I had the impression that perhaps several thousand new ICU patients were burdening the hospital system in the northern part of the country. Several thousand out of a national population of 60 million.
Here’s the trick. Before the announcement of the coronavirus epidemic, people who showed up at those hospitals, with flu, flu-like symptoms, lung infections, pneumonia would be placed in the general wards and treated, or even sent home with drugs.
But now they would, many of them, be called “presumptive cases” of coronavirus, without any tests at all, or after tests which don’t work (see my prior articles on why the diagnostic tests are useless and deceptive). By labeling these patients “contagious coronavirus,” the hospital doctors are forced to send them to the ICU, to “protect others from the infection.”
Thus, these ICUs are crowded and overflowing.
The press publishes pictures of the ICUs and the hysteria factor bubbles up a few degrees hotter.
The press interviews a hospital doctor, and he says, “We’re starting to see a few more children with the virus.” The public reaction? “Incredible! Now even healthy children are getting sick!” I have breaking news. Children do get sick. Like adults, they develop flu-like symptoms. And as with adults, they can now be diagnosed as “presumptive coronavirus cases.”
“But what about people dying in Italy?” As in other countries, people in Italy do die. They always have. Especially old people, who have all sorts of long-term health problems. Labeling them with “coronavirus” at the last minute doesn’t explain the cause of death.
“Healthy people in Italy are dying.” Two points here. First, sometimes these healthy people aren’t really healthy at all. And second, if you were healthy, and you were suddenly diagnosed, for no reason, with a virus you believed was dangerous and even deadly, and then you were isolated in an ICU ward, allowed no visitors, perhaps even put on a ventilator, and then treated with highly toxic antiviral drugs, do you think there is a chance you would die?
The whole aim of stage magic is, as we all know, deflection of attention. The audience is guided to look HERE, while the trick is being executed THERE. Here, a woman is being sawed in half. There, she is escaping from the back of the box.
In the “epidemic,” HERE is where people are sick and dying and diagnosed. THERE is where a fictional reason is being cooked up to explain why.
“But…but…Italy, Italy, Italy, people dying, virus, virus…I don’t get it…”
Yes you do. You’re getting the message the public health officials want to shove into your mind. You’re standing on a street corner watching a pro execute his shell game, and you’re falling for it every time.
 
I do love one thing about my current joblessness, as I've been going to quite a few networking events - working in LEAN/agile, I went to a LEAN healthcare workshop yesterday, given by professional healthcare trainers. One of them obviously knew not to shake hands - instinctively shook one being offered, caught himself right away and said, we're not supposed to do that, and used hand sanitizer right away. That was good, I thought, but then he was puzzled and tried to offer his elbow instead. Had to opportunity to interject, 'come on, we already put our faces in our elbows to cough, you want to be touching every strangers' elbow? Use the footshake!' then proceeded to anchor it in by offering my foot and practicing it. Good deed of the day, done.

Today, in Québec's Centre Intégré Universitaire de Santé et Services Sociaux - went there on a recommendation they'll need workers - met a lady in the waiting room, stressed as she watched special news reports on TV. She said, "this is going to be so terrible if it takes over a year for a vaccine!" I knew I was in mostly an internal, non-public facing service, so I asked her, "Do you work in the field? What do you do?" Doctor, she answered. "So, how does this coronavirus end up?" to which she answered, it causes pneumonia. "Bilateral interstitial pneumonia is the common diagnostic, right," I agreed, just showing I knew the field. "But in critical cases, how does this pneumonia end up?" She knew that answer right away, 'septic shock', but still looked at me quizzically.

"Now, do you know of one generic drug that is used in some clinical protocols for septic shock, with serious benefits even in critical cases?"
Now, that was the question I had been opening the floor for. Fortunately, she was competent, so I didn't need to explain - it was like sunlight went right back into her eyes, as she exclaimed, somewhat stunned, "Vitamin C?!" She knew, right away. Hopefully, if I can make doctors think...

Hey, it's not much, but it's honest work.
 
I'm thinking how far the lizards can go now to make more sleep the people before the time will stop :) As we know the iodine(for me only high doses) and witmin c ect. can cure all the sickness so there is no need to be worried :) I heard that they are going to close all my town and only people who have pass can go outside, because of the virus, well i think is not, because of the corona, but they are fooling again the people that in one second they can make you more in prison :) and you belive that, because of this you need to stay sepperate....... I feel very very sad about all that what is happening to all the people in the world
 
Regarding Italy, a discussion on a statistics blog pointed out that in the last years, the elderly have been more affected by influenza-related-complications mortality comparatively to the rest of Europe. There is this paper for instance where it is remarked that:

Italy showed a higher influenza attributable excess mortality compared to other European countries. especially in the elderly.

In terms of amplitude of the at risk population, in Italy there are 6.7 million of people aged 75+ (more than 10% of the population) that constitute a large group of fragile subjects, among which the annual death rate is naturally high, around 4%

Over 68,000 deaths were attributable to influenza epidemics in the study period [that is, between the 2013/14–2016/17 seasons]. The observed excess of deaths is not completely unexpected, given the high number of fragile very old subjects living in Italy.
 
When lack of outrage can be a real drag

Today, we’re witnessing a similar moment for our cultural elites. They’re being cool and calm in the face of something that cries out for moral outrage.

Birthed in San Francisco in 2015, Drag Queen Story Hour has its own website and is now found all over the nation. It is perhaps the most potent image for what’s gone wrong in America.

The far-left American Library Association last year sponsored a workshop for librarians on how to stage them. This is called aiding and abetting.

Not long ago, a sexually confused man in women’s clothing peddling homosexual propaganda to small children would have prompted calls to the police.

Instead, it’s cool to be neutral or even applaud. You’ve heard of virtue signaling? This is it in spades. The question is, where’s the outrage?
[...]
The whole thing is insane, immoral and should elicit more than Dukakis-style neutrality and societal co-dependence. We’re supposed to be kind to delusional people and get them help, not turn them into role models for young children.

Frankly, it's probably because of all the adulation of those Story Hour Drag Queens frolicking with toddlers and kiddies with the full approval of their enthralled, brain-dead parents that has brought this hellish pestilence down upon the masses! I mean, really, how much can the cosmic consciousness take?! Annnd - libraries are closing!!! Poetic (cosmic) justice?

I jest - it's more likely the obscene global child trafficking that has reached it's own pandemic levels of depravity! And, it's no longer the secret elite doing this, but your friendly, neighborhood whoever that you wouldn't dream in a million years would do such a thing!

Columbus meteorologist arrested, charged with possession of child pornography

He had worked as a meteorologist at the local television station for 31 years - married, father of three adult children.

"We’ve arrested clergyman, we’ve arrested cops, folks in the media - we’ve arrested everybody. I think it’s a reminder to the community of how dangerous the internet is and how we need to protect our children.”

And that is the truly horrific state of affairs of our pathetic planet - hold the outrage!
 
Very balanced and thoughtful interview with Corbett. Unfortunately no transcript yet available but some very sensible weighing of possibilities (including its too early to say!) Well worth the watch.

Yes I watched this yesterday. I had this recurring thought in the back of my head during the week that this corona hysteria had similarities to the 9/11 situation. But this time it was a monumental push by the PTB to get all people and governments around the world to essentially fall into line. No doubt, what we will see next is the introduction of new laws to curb movement among populations, control and monitor people, new rules on social interaction, mandatory vaccination programs to name a few. It’s almost like a mad orgy or feast where those in the upper echelons of power are feasting upon the fear and chaos that has ensued. I have already seen first-hand how the attitudes of regular people on the street behave towards one another. They are all running scared. ALL logic and clear thinking has been thrown out the window at this point in time. How long will it take to milk this grand feast? I would hazard a guess and say as long as it takes to enact all the laws and to create a “vaccine.” Buckle up fellow forum members this roller-coaster we’re on is officially off the bloody tracks and just when you think things couldn’t get any crazy something else will probably pop it’s nasty little head up.
 
Just read this article on Sott. This could explain why the US hasn't been very aggressive in providing adequate test kits for Americans.



The Western media quickly took the stage and laid out the official narrative for the outbreak of the new coronavirus which appeared to have begun in China, claiming it to have originated with animals at a wet market in Wuhan.

In fact the origin was for a long time unknown but it appears likely now, according to Chinese and Japanese reports, that the virus originated elsewhere, from multiple locations, but began to spread widely only after being introduced to the market.

More to the point, it appears that the virus did not originate in China and, according to reports in Japanese and other media, may have originated in the US.

Chinese Researchers Conclude the Virus Originated Outside of China

After collecting samples of the genome in China, medical researchers first conclusively demonstrated that the virus did not originate at the seafood market but had multiple unidentified sources, after which it was exposed to the seafood market from where it spread everywhere. (1) (2) (3)
xinhua
According to the Global Times:
A new study by Chinese researchers indicates the novel coronavirus may have begun human-to-human transmission in late November from a place other than the Huanan seafood market in Wuhan.
The study published on ChinaXiv, a Chinese open repository for scientific researchers, reveals the new coronavirus was introduced to the seafood market from another location(s), and then spread rapidly from the market due to the large number of close contacts. The findings were the result of analyses of the genome data, sources of infection, and the route of spread of variations of the novel coronavirus collected throughout China.
The study believes that patient(s) zero transmitted the virus to workers or sellers at the Huanan seafood market, the crowded market easily facilitating further transmission of the virus to buyers, which caused a wider spread in early December 2019. (Global Times, February 22, 2020, emphasis added (2)
Chinese medical authorities - and "intelligence agencies" - then conducted a rapid and wide-ranging search for the origin of the virus, collecting nearly 100 samples of the genome from 12 different countries on 4 continents, identifying all the varieties and mutations. During this research, they determined the virus outbreak had begun much earlier, probably in November, shortly after the Wuhan Military Games.

They then came to the same independent conclusions as the Japanese researchers - that the virus did not begin in China but was introduced there from the outside.

China's top respiratory specialist Zhong Nanshan said on January 27
"Though the COVID-19 was first discovered in China, it does not mean that it originated from China"

"But that is Chinese for "it originated someplace else, in another country". (4)
This of course raises questions as to the actual location of origin. If the authorities pursued their analysis through 100 genome samples from 12 countries, they must have had a compelling reason to be searching for the original source outside China. This would explain why there was such difficulty in locating and identifying a 'patient zero'.

Japan's Media: The Coronavirus May Have Originated in the US
xinhua
In February of 2020, the Japanese Asahi news report (print and TV) claimed the coronavirus originated in the US, not in China, and that some (or many) of the 14,000 American deaths attributed to influenza may have in fact have resulted from the coronavirus. (5)
A report from a Japanese TV station disclosing a suspicion that some of those Americans may have unknowningly contracted the coronavirus has gone viral on Chinese social media, stoking fears and speculations in China that the novel coronavirus may have originated in the US.
The report, by TV Asahi Corporation of Japan, suggested that the US government may have failed to grasp how rampant the virus has gone on US soil.
However, it is unknown whether Americans who have already died of the influenza had contracted the coronavirus, as reported by TV Asahi. (People's Daily, English, February 23, 2020, emphasis added)
On February 14, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said they will begin to test individuals with influenza-like-illness for the novel coronavirus at public health labs in Los Angeles, San Francisco, Seattle, Chicago, and New York City.

The TV Asahi network presented scientific documentation for their claims, raising the issue that no one would know the cause of death because the US either neglected to test or failed to release the results. Japan avoided the questions of natural vs. man-made and accidental vs. deliberate, simply stating that the virus outbreak may first have occurred in the US. The Western Internet appears to have been scrubbed of this information, but the Chinese media still reference it.

These claims stirred up a hornet's nest not only in Japan but in China, immediately going viral on Chinese social media, especially since the Military World Games were held in Wuhan in October, and it had already been widely discussed that the virus could have been transmitted at that time - from a foreign source.
"Perhaps the US delegates brought the coronavirus to Wuhan, and some mutation occurred to the virus, making it more deadly and contagious, and causing a widespread outbreak this year." (People's Daily, February 23, 2020) (1)
Shen Yi, an international relations professor at Shanghai's Fudan University, stated that global virologists "including the intelligence agencies" were tracking the origin of the virus. Also of interest, the Chinese government did not shut the door on this. The news report stated:
"Netizens are encouraged to actively partake in discussions, but preferably in a rational fashion."
In China, that is meaningful. If the reports were rubbish, the government would clearly state that, and tell people to not spread false rumors.

Taiwan Virologist Suggests the Coronavirus Originated in the US

Then, Taiwan ran a TV news program on February,27,(click here to access video (Chinese), that presented diagrams and flow charts suggesting the coronavirus originated in the US. (6)

Below is a rough translation, summary and analysis of selected content of that newscast. (see map below)

The man in the video is a top virologist and pharmacologist who performed a long and detailed search for the source of the virus. He spends the first part of the video explaining the various haplotypes (varieties, if you will), and explains how they are related to each other, how one must have come before another, and how one type derived from another. He explains this is merely elementary science and nothing to do with geopolitical issues, describing how, just as with numbers in order, 3 must always follow 2.

coronavirus
One of his main points is that the type infecting Taiwan exists only in Australia and the US and, since Taiwan was not infected by Australians, the infection in Taiwan could have come only from the US.

The basic logic is that the geographical location with the greatest diversity of virus strains must be the original source because a single strain cannot emerge from nothing. He demonstrated that only the US has all the five known strains of the virus (while Wuhan and most of China have only one, as do Taiwan and South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam, Singapore, and England, Belgium and Germany), constituting a thesis that the haplotypes in other nations may have originated in the US.

Korea and Taiwan have a different haplotype of the virus than China, perhaps more infective but much less deadly, which would account for a death rate only 1/3 that of China.

Neither Iran nor Italy were included in the above tests, but both countries have now deciphered the locally prevalent genome and have declared them of different varieties from those in China, which means they did not originate in China but were of necessity introduced from another source. It is worth noting that the variety in Italy has approximately the same fatality rate as that of China, three times as great as other nations, while the haplotype in Iran appears to be the deadliest with a fatality rate of between 10% and 25%. (7) (8) (9)

Due to the enormous amount of Western media coverage focused on China, much of the world believes the coronavirus spread to all other nations from China, but this now appears to have been proven wrong. With about 50 nations scattered throughout the world having identified at least one case at the time of writing, it would be very interesting to examine virus samples from each of those nations to determine their location of origin and the worldwide sources and patterns of spread.

The Virologist further stated that the US has recently had more than 200 "pulmonary fibrosis" cases that resulted in death due to patients' inability to breathe, but whose conditions and symptoms could not be explained by pulmonary fibrosis. He said he wrote articles informing the US health authorities to consider seriously those deaths as resulting from the coronavirus, but they responded by blaming the deaths on e-cigarettes, then silenced further discussion. ...

The Taiwanese doctor then stated the virus outbreak began earlier than assumed, saying, "We must look to September of 2019".

He stated the case in September of 2019 where some Japanese traveled to Hawaii and returned home infected, people who had never been to China. This was two months prior to the infections in China and just after the CDC suddenly and totally shut down the Fort Detrick bio-weapons lab claiming the facilities were insufficient to prevent loss of pathogens. (10) (11)

He said he personally investigated those cases very carefully (as did the Japanese virologists who came to the same conclusion).. This might indicate the coronavirus had already spread in the US but where the symptoms were being officially attributed to other diseases, and thus possibly masked.

The prominent Chinese news website Huanqiu related one case in the US where a woman's relative was told by physicians he died of the flu, but where the death certificate listed the coronavirus as the cause of death. On February 26, ABC News affiliate KJCT8 News Network reported that a woman recently told the media that her sister died on from coronavirus infection. Montrose, Colorado resident Almeta Stone said, "They (the medical staff) kept us informed that it was the flu, and when I got the death certificate, there was a coronavirus in the cause of death." (12)

We cannot ascertain the number of such cases in the US but since the CDC apparently has no reliable test kits and is conducting little or no testing for the virus, there may be others.
***

Just for information

In the past two years (during the trade war) China has suffered several pandemics:
  • February 15, 2018: H7N4 bird flu. Sickened at least 1,600 people in China and killed more than 600. Many chickens killed. China needs to purchase US poultry products.
  • June, 2018: H7N9 bird flu. Many chickens killed. China needs to purchase US poultry products.
  • August, 2018: outbreak of African swine flu. Same strain as Russia, from Georgia. Millions of pigs killed. China needs to purchase US pork products.
  • May 24, 2019: massive infestation of armyworms in 14 province-level regions in China, which destroy most food crops. Quickly spread to more than 8,500 hectares of China's grain production. They produce astonishing numbers of eggs. China needs to purchase US agricultural products - corn, soybeans.
  • December, 2019: Coronavirus appearance puts China's economy on hold.
  • January, 2020: China is hit by a "highly pathogenic" strain of bird flu in Hunan province. Many chickens died, many others killed. China needs to purchase US poultry products.
The standard adage is that bad luck happens in threes, not sixes.
Larry Romanoff is a retired management consultant and businessman. He has held senior executive positions in international consulting firms, and owned an international import-export business. He has been a visiting professor at Shanghai's Fudan University, presenting case studies in international affairs to senior EMBA classes. Mr. Romanoff lives in Shanghai and is currently writing a series of ten books generally related to China and the West. He can be contacted at: 2186604556@qq.com. He is a frequent contributor to Global Research.
 
This could explain why the US hasn't been very aggressive in providing adequate test kits for Americans.
but they responded by blaming the deaths on e-cigarettes, then silenced further discussion. ...
I had read this article previously from whatreallyhappened.com and the part regarding e-cigarettes really caught my attention. It was only very recently that the headlines were blazing about deaths/near deaths associated with e-cigarettes. The culprit was supposedly vitamin E acetate and the vast majority used products containing THC; no vitamin E acetate was found in those who only vaped nicotine.

It all seemed somewhat fishy how all of a sudden there was this outbreak of extremely sick people who vaped.
 
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