Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[liam1310]

Regional officials had already declared on Friday a lockdown of one region, Catalonia, telling all residents to stay at home. The cabinet could decide to extend similar measures nationwide on Saturday, which would make Spain the second country in Europe to do so after Italy.

Spain Imposes Nationwide Lockdown to Fight Coronavirus (Published 2020)

A day after an emergency was declared, government officials put in place sweeping restrictions on the public. Stay inside, residents were told.

www.nytimes.com

 

[seek10]

Here is one unofficial interactive map of covid-19 cases in USA.

Coronavirus Near Me

Coronavirus Infection near me - Coronavirus in USA

www.coronainusa.com

coronainusa.com is a privately owned website that is not owned or operated by any state or federal government agency. We have compiled these data using public information available in National/Local Media and Information released by State/Federal Agencies (CDC, DHS). Provided distance is not to the actual patient but is approximation to the county or city as reported by media or agencies. Provided Information may not be accurate. This is solely for entertainment purpose only. Please refer to CDC for any official information.

 

[Laura]

Meanwhile, pushing the flu vaccine:

The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 22,000 deaths, 36 million flu illnesses, 370,000 hospitalizations.

The 2019-2020 influenza outbreak is moderate to low in overall severity, but hospitalization rates are high among children and young adults.

“Rates for children 0-4 years and adults 18-49 years are now the highest CDC has on record for these age groups, surpassing rates reported during the 2009 H1N1 pandemic,” the agency said.

A total of 144 influenza-associated deaths in children have been reported this season. That’s an increase of 8 since last week’s report.

US flu death toll hits 22K, hospitalization rates high for children, young adults

The CDC estimates that so far this season there have been at least 22,000 deaths, 36 million flu illnesses and 370,000 hospitalizations.

www.13abc.com

 

[SOTTREADER]

Watching Trump and US officials press conference at noon - the general feeling seemed to be upbeat.

Basically the US vows to allow medical testing and care for all - insured and uninsured touched by virus, businesses are covered for losses, and they seem to be confident that they have all the pebbles in place. There was even a tidbit comparing the expected reaction efficiency to that of S. Korea.

Spring time is here, Easter/Passover are in a month, and I expect a strong rebound when markets open on Monday.

This will go way in two weeks, if not days.

Not disagreeing, just relaying where the wind seems to be blowing.

It won't go away, it'll get worse into April before it gets better (if it does).

The epidemic in the US is mostly silent at the moment. There will be other hotspots that will form in coming weeks. I can envisage a Katrina moment where a large city gets caught bad and chaos ensues.

If I was you, I'd expect the madness to continue for a while yet and keep my ears to the ground.

Take care.

 

[SOTTREADER]

In Iran I've heard some people say there may be upto 3 million infected.

On a podcast I listened to, they spoke about some mass graves being built. I tracked down some footage that was posted by Washington Post

Some of the footage is of things we've seen already, e.g. the minister getting sick in a press conference, others are from personal devices from what looks like normal citizens.

Before posting, WHO has come out with the following today so no need to watch of you don't want to!

ADVICE FOR YOUR MENTAL HEALTH FROM WHO

"Minimize watching, reading or listening to news that causes you to feel anxious or distressed; seek information only from trusted sources and mainly to take practical steps to prepare your plans and protect yourself and loved ones. Seek information updates at specific times during the day, once or twice. The sudden and near-constant stream of news reports about an outbreak can cause anyone to feel worried" WHO: Mental Health and Psychosocial Considerations During COVID-19 Outbreak

In other news, Lancelot the medical journal posted an article recently where they crunched some numbers on Italy and the projection is the hospital capacity will be totally exhausted this weekend.

Well, the Italian numbers for today are out, they posted their highest single day confirmed cases since the outbreak there begun!

 

[dredger]

Hi all,

So many answers in so few time, difficult to follow and to respond efficiently to all the sub-subjects surrounding this.
First, a proposal for forum admins : separate this thread in 2 main threads :
- one concentrated on the collection of news, testimonies, discussion about what's going on, reflexion, suppositions, etc ...
- the other concentrated on solution, treatments, researches, recipes, results of treatments applied (like many ones which were posted here about successfull protocols mainly coming from China), etc ...

It's up to you to decide if this idea would be worth it to apply ? I think this would help to render the kind of team-work we are all doing here more efficient.

Maybe It's all about food for 4D STS. From the latest session something came to us from portal on middle east also programing is complete and "end is near" so maybe the final battle is near and 4D STS want more power to fight so they are generating on "cito" fear and sadness in people. Asteroid 1998 or2 would be near on april, maybe it's somehow connected with it.

Well, thinking about, this would be logical reaction from them : they also need to make reserves for what is coming, 4D STS are also filling their shelves.

The PTB wishfull thinking is all over medias, increasing, and a quote i like from the C's is that it is there «Achille heel» so i'm courious to see what and when the over mistake wishfull thinking will be done. And i hope we be in a good seat to see that (as the C's said too).

This is what I thought : they did not plan this, this comes before their original plans, so now they try to adapt them, do some actions not prepared in advance, and thus, do mistakes, mistakes that could be exploited. Thinking about : ok, let's imagine that they do a big mistake, they'll try to hide it asap. Key is always the same : information, spread the truth when they try on their side to minimize or totally erase it. I mean, they are 2 factors in such scenarios : wait for an error then spread it, explain it, show it, or this error will be rapidly burried, and here we can help about spotting then spreading any error they could make.

Indeed, the future is open and things can change at any moment as we have seen so often especially in recent years. It just got me thinking that obviously pretty much everyone is now more or less up in arms about this Corona stuff and might fuel it by that fact alone even if it is just thinking about it in terms of craziness and so on and how bad the measures are. So it might be a good idea I would think to refocus at least a bit and concentrate on other important stuff instead that is now easily neglected in all this focus on Cornona? Turning the tide essentially at least on a personal level by refocusing and thereby maybe helping others in a sort of butterfly effect? Maybe that is one of the reasons/effects to this whole Corona thing; a distraction/trap/lure/dissociation for the mind that could use the same energy for something more productive/engaging? At least partly?

This was +/- my first impression : that this virus leak is more an SDA action, it more serve for good purposes. At high level considering all mankind, it help to globally move one step higher for +/- all people in term of consciousness.
And i would say at least about your last sentences : for sure we can. For instance, having a kind of online tool to rapidly create fast infographics in order to spread them, like the infographics which were made previously in this post. What a usefull tool this could be. Just searched, here's a free one : https://www.canva.com/create/infographics/
But this would indeed be better to ... better organize this here, decide what exactly to write.

Fun story about is that, on my direct side, having a small dev company of 4 employees, one of my ideas for future business was to develop online cooperative tools to create various type of documents to help to share and spread information, tools like easing the traduction of any article to various languages for instance, this could be seen as an improved forum with some "buttons" leading to online tools, multi-users ones. The 2 key words behind the idea are "participative tools".

So, I might be way out but as an hypothesis, since "Brotherhood aka Lizards aka antichrist... are getting desperate as we near the change" and since now we have a so-called Pandemic, maybe it is a part of the plan and next step could be something like that they have found a vaccine and since it is a pandemic, all the governments would have the right to force the vaccination of all it population. But I might speculate too that they could put a microchip in the vaccine in order to have the total control of the population.

Then our role will be to find a way to spot/find/deactivate/burn/get rid off this chip, if it arrives to this level. But I think, and I hope also, that this is only their wishful thinkings and that they will not succeed to achieve this (still supposing if ever planned)

My new laptop apparently has a sensitivity issue that is causing me lots of frustration - the last post wasn't intentional as I was still composing - some little slip or pressure set it off! So, there's more to what I was writing:

Your quote here help me to bring a subject that i'm actually experiencing and for which I was wondering about and also wondering if it's not the same for many here who "work" for the SDA side. I summarize this by this open question :

- Do you all also experience, since a few weeks, more normal live problems than you experience usually ?

I ask because in less than 1 month I experienced the following, things that could be considered as 'attacks from 4D STS' to try to keep me busy at spending my energy in other matters, this is even more remarkable that I spend quite more time since 1 month to debate here on the forum :
1- my boiler stopped 2x last 8 months, but since 3 weeks it stops every 2 days. The heating engineer already came but the same evening it stopped again. Funny thing is that the error code is F66, F being the sixth letter for alphabet, i dont need to explain more ^^
2- I live in a flat in a small house, among a bloc of 4 houses, there are 2 appartments by house. I have a gentle neighbour girl downstair, I live upstair, since 6y. She had money problem since she lost her job and started to make a collocation. And now, she'll soon leave here and she succeeded to brought a girl who seems to be a real sociopath, just for example, she started menacing my old neighbour to denonce to the police because she's playing temporarely with her official living address in ordre to earn her unemployment compensation, and she also (I have a recorded video of this conversation) claimed that she (my future old neighbour) is poisining her cat to get rid of it and that she should give the cat to her. I mean, who would like to have such a kind of pure evil person living just under your feets ? This sociopath girl is followed by a psy, and also, her parent visibly rejected her.
3- And this week, I received a registered ground mail from my town to ask me to put myself in order regarding legal matters for a building I own. I contacted my brother about who is specialist about the law surroundings buildings and he confirmed me that this will cost a lot and that it's a real pain.

3 unsual problems in a few time.
So I ask here if I'm not the same in this situation ? This topic could be even discussed in another thread.

Cheers to all

 

[mbww]

Not disagreeing, just relaying where the wind seems to be blowing.

It won't go away, it'll get worse into April before it gets better (if it does).

The epidemic in the US is mostly silent at the moment. There will be other hotspots that will form in coming weeks. I can envisage a Katrina moment where a large city gets caught bad and chaos ensues.

If I was you, I'd expect the madness to continue for a while yet and keep my ears to the ground.

Take care.

Respectfully, I disagree.

The US as a societal complex/body is a different animal than any other nation, except perhaps Japan and Russia.

Multiple factors here: multi-racial, distribution of population, infrastructure and consciousness level, especially among the elderly.

 

[Sergey]

How long does coronavirus stay dangerous on objects?
After the coronavirus infection spread to the world scale, causing a slight panic even in people with a healthy nervous system, more and more inquiries about how to prevent a dangerous disease began to appear in the network. In addition, one of the most worrying questions about the new virus subtype is its survival outside the body, for example, on surfaces, clothing, seats, coins, etc. Since scientists had long had difficulty answering this question unambiguously, they conducted a new study that examined the virus's ability to survive on different surfaces.

According to an article published in the Journal of Hospital Infection, the research carried out showed:

Coronavirus remains infectious and dangerous:
-In the air for up to 3 hours.
-On a copper surface for up to 4 hours
-On clothes until 12 o'clock.
-On cardboard until 24 hours.
-On plastic and stainless steel - 2 to 3 days

Based on the data, it can be assumed that by using the same handle on the door together with a person who has coronavirus, we risk joining the ranks of people infected with the infection. In any case, experts note that despite the ability of coronaviruses to survive outside the human body, they can easily be destroyed by household disinfectants.

The source:How long does coronavirus stay dangerous on objects?

 

[SummerLite]

Here in the US the Mind Virus has spread rapidly thanks to all who are watching MSM and is more destructive then the actual virus. No cases reported in my town but events are being cancelled. The health food store I buy from has had the Vit C cleared out mostly with big bottles of chewables left.. 2 days ago the Elderberry products hadn't been touched so not an awareness of that but yesterday the supply was nearly wiped out, so the word on Elderberries has gone out. Maybe thanks to some here. My family is well supplied with all the preventative supplements and stored food so we're covered. Although I'm not on facebook or twitter, I sent the Elderberry, baking soda, Vit C etc. info to people on my email list and tell whoever I can when I meet them in person, I've been able to clue some in. The whole town is preparing to be quarantined for 2 weeks.

I went to Walmart a few days ago to buy a few items for a craft project and picked up and checked out a few food items. The canned soups where wiped out, along with the tp of course. Also the cooking oils where wiped out except for the good ones I buy like coconut oil and Olive, all there, so good. People where making jokes about the sold out toilet paper wherever I went.

The good news is, my family who I've worked on for years to take immune boosting supplements, are totally gun ho on the whole thing now. And they're also being clued in on being prepared to cover various scenarios..

I work with a person that follows and believes the MSM without question. These are the people I've had the most conflict with in the last few years and they are a very prickly and contentious bunch, very convinced they have "the truth" on situations. Its nearly impossible to offer any information that goes against what they've been told and they're ready to fight if questioned. So, they are spreading the mind virus of fear based on lies. Here's one, "All people will get this virus". Well, its all a very interesting study in human psychology.

I'm sorry to hear of all thats transpiring in European countries and all your facing. I don't know how Trump will handle the situation here, hopefully with insight and sanity. The MSM is working against that of course. Also this increase in Cosmic Rays interring the planet now is probably intensifying everything as well, hmm... cosmic influences. Its not where you are but who you are and what you see thats important, good food for thought.

 

[Don Cesar]

Hi all,

So many answers in so few time, difficult to follow and to respond efficiently to all the sub-subjects surrounding this.
First, a proposal for forum admins : separate this thread in 2 main threads :
- one concentrated on the collection of news, testimonies, discussion about what's going on, reflexion, suppositions, etc ...
- the other concentrated on solution, treatments, researches, recipes, results of treatments applied (like many ones which were posted here about successfull protocols mainly coming from China), etc ...

It's up to you to decide if this idea would be worth it to apply ? I think this would help to render the kind of team-work we are all doing here more efficient.


Well, thinking about, this would be logical reaction from them : they also need to make reserves for what is coming, 4D STS are also filling their shelves.


This is what I thought : they did not plan this, this comes before their original plans, so now they try to adapt them, do some actions not prepared in advance, and thus, do mistakes, mistakes that could be exploited. Thinking about : ok, let's imagine that they do a big mistake, they'll try to hide it asap. Key is always the same : information, spread the truth when they try on their side to minimize or totally erase it. I mean, they are 2 factors in such scenarios : wait for an error then spread it, explain it, show it, or this error will be rapidly burried, and here we can help about spotting then spreading any error they could make.


This was +/- my first impression : that this virus leak is more an SDA action, it more serve for good purposes. At high level considering all mankind, it help to globally move one step higher for +/- all people in term of consciousness.
And i would say at least about your last sentences : for sure we can. For instance, having a kind of online tool to rapidly create fast infographics in order to spread them, like the infographics which were made previously in this post. What a usefull tool this could be. Just searched, here's a free one : https://www.canva.com/create/infographics/
But this would indeed be better to ... better organize this here, decide what exactly to write.

Fun story about is that, on my direct side, having a small dev company of 4 employees, one of my ideas for future business was to develop online cooperative tools to create various type of documents to help to share and spread information, tools like easing the traduction of any article to various languages for instance, this could be seen as an improved forum with some "buttons" leading to online tools, multi-users ones. The 2 key words behind the idea are "participative tools".


Then our role will be to find a way to spot/find/deactivate/burn/get rid off this chip, if it arrives to this level. But I think, and I hope also, that this is only their wishful thinkings and that they will not succeed to achieve this (still supposing if ever planned)


Your quote here help me to bring a subject that i'm actually experiencing and for which I was wondering about and also wondering if it's not the same for many here who "work" for the SDA side. I summarize this by this open question :

- Do you all also experience, since a few weeks, more normal live problems than you experience usually ?

I ask because in less than 1 month I experienced the following, things that could be considered as 'attacks from 4D STS' to try to keep me busy at spending my energy in other matters, this is even more remarkable that I spend quite more time since 1 month to debate here on the forum :
1- my boiler stopped 2x last 8 months, but since 3 weeks it stops every 2 days. The heating engineer already came but the same evening it stopped again. Funny thing is that the error code is F66, F being the sixth letter for alphabet, i dont need to explain more ^^
2- I live in a flat in a small house, among a bloc of 4 houses, there are 2 appartments by house. I have a gentle neighbour girl downstair, I live upstair, since 6y. She had money problem since she lost her job and started to make a collocation. And now, she'll soon leave here and she succeeded to brought a girl who seems to be a real sociopath, just for example, she started menacing my old neighbour to denonce to the police because she's playing temporarely with her official living address in ordre to earn her unemployment compensation, and she also (I have a recorded video of this conversation) claimed that she (my future old neighbour) is poisining her cat to get rid of it and that she should give the cat to her. I mean, who would like to have such a kind of pure evil person living just under your feets ? This sociopath girl is followed by a psy, and also, her parent visibly rejected her.
3- And this week, I received a registered ground mail from my town to ask me to put myself in order regarding legal matters for a building I own. I contacted my brother about who is specialist about the law surroundings buildings and he confirmed me that this will cost a lot and that it's a real pain.

3 unsual problems in a few time.
So I ask here if I'm not the same in this situation ? This topic could be even discussed in another thread.

Cheers to all

Wait and see...

 

[Laura]

Not disagreeing, just relaying where the wind seems to be blowing.

It won't go away, it'll get worse into April before it gets better (if it does).

The epidemic in the US is mostly silent at the moment. There will be other hotspots that will form in coming weeks. I can envisage a Katrina moment where a large city gets caught bad and chaos ensues.

If I was you, I'd expect the madness to continue for a while yet and keep my ears to the ground.

Take care.

Well, your predictions will be archived here and I'm putting my money on the Cs.

 

[WIN 52]

I did have a reasonable supply of TP. The mild tsunami effects of adding Sodium Bicarbonate into my daily routine had me counting the rolls. lol

That addition was good however as my system seems to be shrugging off whatever it has been having to deal with for the past several weeks.

I remember using handfuls of soil one time when in the field plowing. I have also used moss, leaves and etc. at different times. Whatever was handy at the time.

Just having a bit of a laugh, don't mind me!

 

[Adaryn]

Coronavirus: France on lockdown with shops closing and people urged to stay inside

Édouard Philippe, the Prime Minister of France, called coronavirus France's 'biggest health crisis in a century' and has taken measures to attempt to stop its spread

France has become the latest country to go into lockdown in the war against coronavirus.

Restaurants, some shops, cinemas and cafés will shut for the foreseeable future in Édouard Philippe's nation.

Public transport will remain open but Mr Philippe encouraged his citizens to limit their use.

He labelled coronavirus France's "biggest health crisis in a century". More than 90 people have died of the virus there so far and a further 4,500 are infected.

 

[Eboard10]

Well France just announced that all restaurants, cafes, cinemas and non-essential shops will be closed as of midnight tonight.

The reason? In his speech, French PM Edouard Philippe said that this morning he remarked along with his colleagues that the French were still going out to restaurants and cafes despite the mesures announced Thursday evening, so they decided to enforce stronger measures. Not very credible as a reason tbh.

 

[Laura]

He labelled coronavirus France's "biggest health crisis in a century". More than 90 people have died of the virus there so far and a further 4,500 are infected.

I guess he forgot WW I and WW II. And a lot of other stuff before, after and in between.