I know what you mean Eboard10 but from the authorities point of view, they don't like the fact that people are making their own mind up - and in France that is a protected tradition! In other words, stop exercising your common sense and PANIC MORE! Stop romancing, laughing, socialising and do as we say - LOCK YOURSELF AWAY - WILLINGLY! Oh you won't?! So we'll close access and enforce it our way.
Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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I know what you mean Eboard10 but from the authorities point of view, they don't like the fact that people are making their own mind up - and in France that is a protected tradition! In other words, stop exercising your common sense and PANIC MORE! Stop romancing, laughing, socialising and do as we say - LOCK YOURSELF AWAY - WILLINGLY! Oh you won't?! So we'll close access and enforce it our way.
Toilet paper is a luxury item for most of Indians and very few big shops sell and that is in small sizes. They use water to clean the body with left hand and bucket of water to flush. Even when, it became affordable, few wanted to buy as they find water is much more cleaner than toilet paper. Of course, it is more work for women to clean the squat seat daily with short broom. Last few decades, sitting style toilets became common, this is what they use, if they have western style toilet.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
Can I disavow myself from these predictions? They aren't even mine
Many commentators who've been tracking the virus are all saying it hence why I documented it down.
Here's an example of one
Ps, it's pretty much an open secret the US is moving into an explosive phase but recent news is the population is being mobilised and are therefore taking counter measures which should hopefully cover for the ineptitude of the CDC and flatten that curve at its peak.
Let's wait and see how things play out!
On a more cheerful note, Russell Brand just made a video about the virus and as you'd expect, he's seeing things from a metaphysical angle
In the UK, the gov has taken the OPPOSITE strategy to the recommended WHO actions which is essentially to lock down and minimise spread. In the UK, the action is to allow spread so as to hit some magical % of infected where herd immunity is achieved.
Here's the chief medical scientist himself
Brits are not happy being involuntarily subjected to this herd immunity experiment! Boris will either have to change tact or hope UK doesn't turn to Italy otherwise he's on the chopping block I think.
In the US, Trump's taken a gamble by being somewhat late to mobilise the government but the policy now is somewhat in line with WHO minus the really aggressive testing.
So looks like both leaders have taken a gamble to differing degrees rather than played the WHO line as prescribed.
Rest of Europe are now following the standard WHO line from what I can see.... Lockdown.
Remembering the session of October 16th 1994 (bold is mine)
Session 16 October 1994
October 16, 1994 Frank, Laura, V___ Q: Hello. A: Hello. Music is Good. Q: (L) Can you give us your name? A: Cederra. Q: (L) I would like to know what is the origin of the Freemasons? A: Osirians. Q: (L) Can you tell us when the original Freemasons formed as a society? A: 5633...cassiopaea.org
So, I might be way out but as an hypothesis, since "Brotherhood aka Lizards aka antichrist... are getting desperate as we near the change" and since now we have a so-called Pandemic, maybe it is a part of the plan and next step could be something like that they have found a vaccine and since it is a pandemic, all the governments would have the right to force the vaccination of all it population. But I might speculate too that they could put a microchip in the vaccine in order to have the total control of the population.
fwiw
That's what is in my mind here and there for more than three weeks. I say "here and there", because I would become completely crazy if I had this in mind all the time! But, as future is open, I allow us other ends of this malevolent thing happening, no matter what they show us, no matter which part of this is a will and/or excuses to shield themselves against whatever might threaten their existence or goals.
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
This video explains quite succinctly where the British strategy deviates from the WHO prescribed actions (as a result, it also explains the WHO prescribed actions for countries to take)
I'm having difficulties understanding your message, mbww. Could you please elaborate what you mean
SOTTREADER
The Living Force
FYI
www.theguardian.com
Anti-inflammatories may aggravate Covid-19, France advises
French minister says patients should take paracetamol rather than ibuprofen or cortisone
Usually I love to go outside but not this afternoon. It was so charged. Maybe my spirit was charged also. I think all the sadness of what is happening was in my difficulty to breath. (Thanks Hesperides for the insight). Then this evening in my Yoga Laugh suddenly I cried. Not for me but for everyone, for the hard times that maybe are coming, for the Italians, for the Spanish, for all of us, it was very good to cry and I think the exercise of laugh helped to open a tied knot that I had inside me since few days. Cry is not bad at all, it liberated and clean. I feel better now.
Later I will go again outside to see. It is an act of rebellion! Yes indeed. (I am joking). But dogs need to walk and humans also. What they think we are? Cockroaches that can live in a room without taking air?
For those who speak German, there is a Youtube talk with Dr Wolfgang Wodarg, who in 2009 was mentioned in this thread.
Dr Wodarg has some information to share about influenza and Corona type infections. From what I understand about 10 % of the people affected by infections in the airways each year have corona viruses if testet. He also says that viruses do not operate alone, but just like we have several bacterias and micro organisms in the digestive system, so we also carry around more than one virus. To determine which one is the one that makes us feel sick is not always easy to determine and little is know about the possible synergetic effects among the viruses.
The link is here: Lungenfacharzt Wolfgang Wodarg spricht jetzt LIVE über die Auswirkungen des Corona Virus Frontal21 FB Link
Edit: There is a page here where he explains his position in words: Hier die Slideshow mit weiteren Infos
Dr Wodarg has some information to share about influenza and Corona type infections. From what I understand about 10 % of the people affected by infections in the airways each year have corona viruses if testet. He also says that viruses do not operate alone, but just like we have several bacterias and micro organisms in the digestive system, so we also carry around more than one virus. To determine which one is the one that makes us feel sick is not always easy to determine and little is know about the possible synergetic effects among the viruses.
The link is here: Lungenfacharzt Wolfgang Wodarg spricht jetzt LIVE über die Auswirkungen des Corona Virus Frontal21 FB Link
Edit: There is a page here where he explains his position in words: Hier die Slideshow mit weiteren Infos
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artofdream
Jedi
I was talking with Family and friends in France today and had to remind them that the "swine flu" epidemy in 2009/2010 (seems most of them forgot, barely 10 years ago) had about 2 millions people infected in France (344 death)... suddenly put things into context compared to the 4500 cases reported as of now.
Indeed, might be in a parallel reality ...
Coronavirus: France on lockdown with shops closing and people urged to stay inside
Édouard Philippe, the Prime Minister of France, called coronavirus France's 'biggest health crisis in a century' and has taken measures to attempt to stop its spread
France has become the latest country to go into lockdown in the war against coronavirus.
Restaurants, some shops, cinemas and cafés will shut for the foreseeable future in Édouard Philippe's nation.
Public transport will remain open but Mr Philippe encouraged his citizens to limit their use.
He labelled coronavirus France's "biggest health crisis in a century". More than 90 people have died of the virus there so far and a further 4,500 are infected.
Indeed, might be in a parallel reality ...
Adaryn
The Living Force
Jacques Attali wrote this in 2009:
"History teaches us that humanity only evolves significantly when it is truly afraid: it then first sets up defence mechanisms; sometimes intolerable (scapegoats and totalitarianism); sometimes futile (distraction); sometimes effective (therapeutics, if necessary discarding all previous moral principles). Then, once the crisis has passed, it transforms these mechanisms to make them compatible with individual freedom and to make them part of a democratic health policy. »
For Attali, "The pandemic, at its beginning, could trigger one of these structuring fears", because it will raise, "better than any humanitarian or ecological discourse, the awareness of the need for altruism, at least self-interested altruism. »
"And, even if, as we obviously hope, this crisis is not very serious, we must not forget, as we did with the economic crisis, to learn from it, so that before the next - inevitable - crisis, prevention and control mechanisms are put in place, as well as logistical processes for the equitable distribution of medicines and vaccines. To that end, we will have to put in place a global police, global stockpiling and therefore global taxation. We will then come, much more quickly than would have been possible for economic reasons alone, to put in place the foundations of a real world government. »
"It is moreover through the hospital that the establishment of a true State began in France, in the seventeenth century."
"History teaches us that humanity only evolves significantly when it is truly afraid: it then first sets up defence mechanisms; sometimes intolerable (scapegoats and totalitarianism); sometimes futile (distraction); sometimes effective (therapeutics, if necessary discarding all previous moral principles). Then, once the crisis has passed, it transforms these mechanisms to make them compatible with individual freedom and to make them part of a democratic health policy. »
For Attali, "The pandemic, at its beginning, could trigger one of these structuring fears", because it will raise, "better than any humanitarian or ecological discourse, the awareness of the need for altruism, at least self-interested altruism. »
"And, even if, as we obviously hope, this crisis is not very serious, we must not forget, as we did with the economic crisis, to learn from it, so that before the next - inevitable - crisis, prevention and control mechanisms are put in place, as well as logistical processes for the equitable distribution of medicines and vaccines. To that end, we will have to put in place a global police, global stockpiling and therefore global taxation. We will then come, much more quickly than would have been possible for economic reasons alone, to put in place the foundations of a real world government. »
"It is moreover through the hospital that the establishment of a true State began in France, in the seventeenth century."
lostinself
Jedi Master
One of things i'm finding peculiar about the coronavirus thing is how indecisive it actually is, downright confusing even, when one tries to sit back taking an objective, unbiased stance.
On one hand the virus can be taken as a serious danger that already killed over a thousand of people and is likely to kill much more if not properly contained. The other hand would naturally be the virus being just another infectious disease, mortal in some cases but not particularly harmful to humankind as a whole. Both these positions have legitimacy in my eyes, and i'm unlikely to be alone in thinking that way.
If virus was either an obvious major threat or just another strain of flu, there wouldn't be such conflicting opinions and division among people right now, even though the world as we know (knew?) it would probably end violently in case of the former. But, no. Here we're confronted with necessity to decide: does the danger justify enforced restrictions on freedom and (more importantly IMO) self-restrictions in society?
I don't think there's a human-devised plan behind all this, but maybe the above is the point from the 4D PTB perspective? To have people divided, or rather make them take positions, over a major but inconclusive issue? If what we're seeing is the beginning of some new major soul-bidding set-up, i'd expect much more to come before coronavirus evaporates, as what's currently going on has the "initial stage" vibe to it. Maybe the plan includes turning up the threat factor at some stage, in order to create more pressure on those unsure. Or maybe the social changes are expected to run on their own, which would be more effective in terms of soul enslavement, i guess. Limitations are meant to be lifted up or at least relaxed at some point, IMO, and the real question is what remains and what will be the shape of our spirit afterwards.
Just some "maybes".
On one hand the virus can be taken as a serious danger that already killed over a thousand of people and is likely to kill much more if not properly contained. The other hand would naturally be the virus being just another infectious disease, mortal in some cases but not particularly harmful to humankind as a whole. Both these positions have legitimacy in my eyes, and i'm unlikely to be alone in thinking that way.
If virus was either an obvious major threat or just another strain of flu, there wouldn't be such conflicting opinions and division among people right now, even though the world as we know (knew?) it would probably end violently in case of the former. But, no. Here we're confronted with necessity to decide: does the danger justify enforced restrictions on freedom and (more importantly IMO) self-restrictions in society?
I don't think there's a human-devised plan behind all this, but maybe the above is the point from the 4D PTB perspective? To have people divided, or rather make them take positions, over a major but inconclusive issue? If what we're seeing is the beginning of some new major soul-bidding set-up, i'd expect much more to come before coronavirus evaporates, as what's currently going on has the "initial stage" vibe to it. Maybe the plan includes turning up the threat factor at some stage, in order to create more pressure on those unsure. Or maybe the social changes are expected to run on their own, which would be more effective in terms of soul enslavement, i guess. Limitations are meant to be lifted up or at least relaxed at some point, IMO, and the real question is what remains and what will be the shape of our spirit afterwards.
Just some "maybes".
Interesting that the panic began (or was begun?) in China. And interesting that others bought into it so uncritical. With global communication and the Belt and Road initiative what was missing was the support from the people.
And if the following is still more or less valid then one could consider:
Session 13 May 2017
Session Date: May 13th 2017 Laura, Andromeda, and Galatea at the board Pierre, Niall, Joe, Possibility of Being (PoB), Chu, Data, Scottie, Arky, Noko the Wonderdog Q: (L) Okay. A: Good evening joyous ones. Q: (L) This is May 13th, 2017. I thought they were gonna say "joyous people" or...
cassiopaea.org
At the moment the countries of Europe are setting up problems that might need some fixing.
anka
The Living Force
Perhaps you need to look at these tweets to find some optimism that the pressure can be dealt with in a real human manner. I remember C's saying something along the lines that when hard times come for many people will be actually easier to make up their (unconscious) minds and decide which part of themselves to side with. I grabbed the videos from Twitter using simple search 'italy quarantine':
And then we have this article (interestingly also from Italy):
14th-century Italian advice on how to survive an epidemic
Giovanni Boccaccio's work taught citizens how to maintain mental wellbeing in times of epidemics and isolation. The spread of the Covid-19 virus has triggered an epidemic of advice. This advice is important, but it seems destined to make our...
www.sott.net
A Russian doctor returned from China and gave some numbers to the Russian Channel 1 News, which are attached
Old people in general, especially above 80, which is not surprising considering:
Old people in general, especially above 80, which is not surprising considering:
