At this point, we're mulling over these two (broad) scenarios:

1.) Chinese authorities were spooked by a new viral outbreak, they didn't know which way it would go, they recalled the SARS outbreak in 2003, they perhaps suspected a leak or some vaccine trial-related connection from their BSL-4 lab there in Wuhan, then they 'overreacted' out of an abundance of caution. Crucially though, the Chinese central govt took over the containment process and strategically facilitated the international broadcast of the worst possible scenes from Wuhan and Hubei Province. This was done to amplify panic across the world and force Western govts, particularly the US, to attempt to mimic the Chinese response, in the expectation that Western govts would be nowhere near as organized, authoritarian and equipped as China was to 'contain the virus'. Stock markets crash, business is lost (and much of it is not regained after things 'return to normal'), and Chinese companies move in to take over market share vacated by Western interests. Thus, China 'strikes back' economically against US-led anti-Chinese trade sanctions and quickens its supplanting of the US at the head of the table of 'world government'.

In this scenario, Russia appears to 'get the game' early on by closing its territorial border to China and preventing any Chinese from even flying into the country. China quietly reports that it has no problem with that, but the rest of the world is reinforced with the message that 'this is really serious'. Amidst this, Russia unexpectedly disagrees with Saudi Arabia and OPEC to discontinue oil production cutbacks, sending oil prices plummeting, thereby hammering the US domestic oil market. Apparently completely unrelated to the 'pandemic', this move would thereby be a complementary economic action taken as part of a broader 'Chinese-Russian strategic partnership'.

Heck, in this scenario, maybe even Iran was doing its part to amplify the scare.

2.) One major assumption in the above scenario is that the West is being genuinely hurt economically by this 'shutdown'. Yes, production will plummet for a period, many tens or hundreds of thousands of workers in service sectors will be laid off, and tax receipts to govt coffers will briefly shrink. But are the fundamentals really affected to such an extent that Western elites cannot shuffle things around and manage them, thereby avoiding 'blood on the streets'? Cross-border trade is continuing as normal, supermarket shelves will remain stocked (despite initial panic-buying), all workers have been promised compensation, all companies (major, 'connected' ones anyway) have been promised remuneration in the form of favorable loans, tax cuts, etc.

So you ask 'How does a govt pay for all that, when they've been telling us for years that they're broke and we must all tighten our belts?' Because that isn't true! Govts will just do what they always do; issue bonds against future tax receipts, thereby leveraging future generations. $1.5 trillion injected here, €2 trillion injected there... whatever, they just print money when they have to. So long as the real economy of people and infrastructure remains functional, the 'fake economy' of the casino stock markets and banking system, which is fundamentally decoupled from the real world, can be massaged and 'restructured'. So long as crises aren't really crises, govts love them! 'Finally, we're relevant to people again!'

So if they're not worried about imminent economic collapse, are they then worried about this virus? No, they have realized by now as we have that it's a nothing-burger. BUT, individual, national govts are using the crisis to suppress incipient rebellions (France, for example), and stave off power transfers (Netanyahu in Israel, for example, or Sinn Fein being kept out of govt in Ireland) - and overall, collectively, they will use the crisis to 're-set' or reconfigure things such that greater 'medical martial law' can be instituted and so that greater centralization of the levers of the Western banking system/economy can be instituted.

They'll later say, in a few months or whenever they're looking back at what everyone by then knows was a nothing-burger, 'well, it was good to stress-test the system in the event of a real pandemic', and 'so many good laws have been introduced thanks to the non-crisis that we're all now better off for it'.

In sum, the net result will have been that the elites simply took their greed for money and control over people up a notch or two, and that the increased controls in people's lives - which is really draconian right now, and will presumably lessen in the months ahead, but will likely retain many of its psychological if not its actual features - will produce increased suffering and misery, though not necessarily of the physical kind (assuming govts want to keep their heads and not see food riots in the streets).

The Cs said the creative energy of the universe is transduced by humans as they go about the ordinary 'psycho-drama' of their lives. That which is not expressed outwardly 'goes within', apparently into the planet itself, producing or contributing to such natural phenomena as earthquakes. The significant stoppage of (and/or reduction in) human creative expression is the wildcard in all of this. What if, for example, the suppression of human activity produces or contributes to that 'Big One' earthquake they talk of in California? Something like that would then give the US govt a REAL crisis for which no amount of shuffling numbers around on central bank computer screens can fix. Goods will not move from A to B because the highway is destroyed. In this scenario, only then would China 'step up' as a 'new hegemon'.

As such then, in this second scenario, what's going on now is more of the same - manipulated crises and manipulated solutions to effectively lock things down even more. But in their hubris, the elites have likely gone too far and broken not 'the economy' but something more akin to 'the people's spirit', thus bringing us closer to catastrophe because they don't understand that humans are not robotic resources to be endlessly poked and prodded - they have a human-cosmic connection that brings a higher power into 'the equation', one which will smash their 'eternal global economic lockdown' to pieces.
Excellent speculation! Thanks Niall
Id say its a combo of 1&2 + more. I also think 5G networks play a big part in this and that its not a coincidence that China is leading with spreading that horrible technology. Facial recognition software, social credits and no cash. Thats why they need 5G everywhere. Nevermind all the information that 5G is actually military technology that is now becoming the norm for control of populations.

But I had a striking thought that I think is relevant to all this. And it is of holistic nature.

Our planet is alive. It has its own immune system. And since we are a part of this enviroment we are having a huge effect on it but we dont see it as we should and we think we have no power to change it which I think is a mistake (the change comes from within). So our planet is really having a hard time, especially since the industrial revolution. And as a collective we are not doing that much to help it (individually yes, but its not nearly enough). We know who are the main polluters. We know of all nuclear testing that has been done. And with all the un-sustainable ecocides we call progress I imagine we totally screwed up the balance/harmony in the nature. So our planet needs is attempting to clean up and restore its harmony/balance and it will do it with its immune system.
It will send "stuff" at us that will either change us for better (mutations of genes/evolution) or it will kill us(earthquakes/volcanoes/asteroids/cometh clusters). And we know that asteroids and comets bring all sorts of un-known factors to the table and we are seeing them zip by and explode on a daily basis over most of the world. Virus mutations could be just that. Either you change for better or you die. No other way Im afraid.

So concerning 5G it could be that the PTBs didnt count on crazy virus outbreaks at all but they happened precisely because of that technology and what we are seeing now as chaos among the elites is the result of that!


One of the things that really cant go on is the rulling elite, all the big mindless industry and all the other players in world globalization. So I would add a scenario number 3 where we could see some incredible transformations in all these systems over time. In that case all their plans will turn out un-successfull and they will have to make huge cut-backs and make monumental changes in existing systems.

Regards

Agron
 
I also do not understand how all the CEOs of these major companies are going along with all this crap being instituted. They are participating in their own demise!

Could be because many of them resigned and cashed out before things started to get bad.


A trend of CEOs of major corps stepping down was noted late last year:

Since then, more big names have quit their posts:


Here's a more extensive list I found on Reddit of those who have left since the beginning of 2020:
  1. Microsoft, Bill Gates, 3/13 after forever
  2. UPS, David Abney, 3/12 (after 6Y)
  3. Disney CEO, Bob Iger, 2/25 (after 15 Y)
  4. MasterCard CEO, Ajay Banga, 2/25 (after 10 Y)
  5. Salesforce CEO, Keith Block, 2/25 (after 18 M)
  6. Uber Eats VP, Jason Droege, 2/25 (after 6 Y)
  7. Outdoor Voices CEO, Tyler Haney, 2/25 (after 8 Y)
  8. Cansortium Cannabis CEO, Jose Hidalgo, 2/25 (after 5 Y)
  9. St. Luke's Hospital CEO, Christine Candio, 2/25 (after 5 Y) (one of St. Louis' biggest hospitals)
  10. JCPenney CMO, Shawn Gensch, 2/25 (after 9 M)
  11. Bowers & Wilkins CEO Gregory Lee, 2/24 (after 2 M)
  12. Bowers & Wilkins CFO Gideon Yu, 2/24 (after 4 Y)
  13. L Brands CEO, Les Wexner, 2/20 (after 57 Y)
  14. Credit Suisse CEO, Tidjane Thiam, 2/13 (after 5 Y)
  15. MGM CEO, Jim Murren, 2/12 (after 12 Y)
  16. Aurora Cannabis CEO, Terry Booth, 2/6 (+other big cuts)
  17. LinkedIn CEO, Jeff Weiner, 2/5 (after 11 Y)
  18. HULU CEO, Randy Freer, 1/31 (after 2 Y)
  19. IBM CEO , Ginni Rometty, 1/30 (after 8 Y)
  20. Match.com CEO, Mandy Ginsberg, 1/29 (health)
  21. International Airlines Group (IAG) CEO, Willie Walsh, 1/9 (after 9 Y)
 
I have been thinking about this the last few days since it came up. According to Wikipedia (FWIW haha):



so that would be a rather large object relative to the other planets in our solar system. We can see Jupiter as a bright "star" in the sky, so as the brown dwarf approaches, if there is such a thing, I would it expect it to become visible as a new "star" in the sky while it is still in the outer solar system. It seems like amateur astronomers would spot it even if there is some kind of PTB program to hide it, there are people who post amazing images of nebulae and galaxies on reddit all the time these days.

From what I can gather a comet like Halley's could be visible to the naked eye for around month as it approaches the sun (Halley's Comet - Wikipedia). Now the physics of an object many times larger than Jupiter would be quite different and we would probably be seeing it partly because of the sun's light reflecting off of it and partly because of electromagnetic phenomenon, so I expect it would be visible for much longer, but if it has an elliptical orbit like a comet it would speed up as it makes its closest approach so we might expect a period of 1-2 months of maximum visibility preceded and followed by a longer period (months? years?) of lesser visibility.

So if it does "appear" in the short term (ie in the coming weeks or months) it would make sense to me that it would take months for it to traverse the solar system and disappear again.

I'm just speculating based on the little I know about astronomy.
I’m not sure about that. I’m not much of an astronomer either, but what occurs to me is that a brown dwarf might absorb light as opposed to reflecting it. I don’t know. But if so, it could go undetected unless it’s noticed passing in front of another object or until it’s right on top of us. Now that would freak people out!
 
An interesting take on events from vedic astrology. (approx 13 min)
Interesting. A Himalayan yogi and Vedic scholar I know said some similar things about Saturn back in December and predicted extreme events for seven months with lingering effects for another two yeards. This was right about the time the C's were making their calls about lots of people getting chills, etc.. It was odd and out of place for this yogi because he usually talks about yoga, meditation, etc. and only occasionally sprinkles in a little astrology but more as a passing comment. In this case he was very specific about the influence of Saturn, and he recommended paying respects to "Shani" (Vedic term for Saturn) during especially the first 7 months of 2020, and also to Shiva as always but more to the point about Saturn and coming destructive forces. He gave a mantra to use (I love mantra, BTW) and offered Puja, but it's generally considered bad form to pass on the direct instructions of such a yogi without their permission, so I will leave it to the interested to find ways to honor Saturn and Shiva, or whatever they as archetypes if not actual cosmic forces represent to you, as you see fit.

An interesting bit of coincidence: born in DC in the 60s, under the sign of Capricorn, with Saturn as dominant planet, and whatever interests there are seem to naturally follow an arc described by this set of circumstances and the explanations in the astrology video.
 
Still catching up the 10 pages of new replies I did not read yet, just an updated of how things are around where I live (near Paris).

On Monday morning (then before the containment that started at noon), there was a crowd downtown all of them lining up in front of every shops or supermarkets. Not even mention the line up inside the supermarkets themselves. I had no need to go, as I have plenty of what could interest me: water bottle, toilet paper 🤣, paper tissues, cleaning and other hygiene products, etc. My main shops are butchers and the little Bio supermarket, where I go on a regular basis. My florist, that I know well, was taking care of his plants as he could not sell them anymore; He was closed but his fence was half only, so when I saw he was inside, he made me a sign to come in, and he offered me a bunch of splendid white and red roses, lilies and birds of paradise. It made my Day! I put them outside for night, so they still are so beautiful and smell so good. ;-)

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I did go again downtown on yesterday for butchers. That was not at all the same anymore. Few people in the streets, half with masks on their face. Lining up in front of one of the butcher I use to go, we were distanced by one meter each other. Not that I thought I was in danger, but I did not want to attract any attention. And I see this little elderly man around 75/80 years old walking with a cane who came behind me. I told him, that at least for me (out loud enough as I wanted those before me younger than him able to ear me) I was leaving him my place. It took several minutes for the same people before me to do the same...:shock:

I went downtown again today for butcher and Bio supermarket, and this time, I had my little certificate signed on the honor of going out to do my shopping, since my daughter I had on the phone last evening reminded me that I had to have it, even to go shopping. I checked and she was right. I understood that it was only for home-to-work trips. Well, I misunderstood. Anyway, I go out today with my paper in my bag, hardly anyone on the streets, and yet the weather is so nice and so warm, considering the bad weather we had these last weeks...

In my street, almost back at home, I see 5 policemen/women at around 50 meters coming in front of me, walking quietly to the downtown (that is not so far and I live not far from the police station either). Of course, once they are right in front of me, they stopped and they asked me for my certificate first, then after a few seconds, my ID card. Thank you Dearest Daughter!!

So, they are not really bluffing, and I will have to have a new attestation each time I walk outside, one to go shopping, and another one if I'm going to do my sport on my own (actually, it's walking with my camera). I asked them if this last activity was allowed, they said yes, as long as I have a new signed certificate with me. :rolleyes:

Thank you Laura, Ark, Chateau team, and all of you here for all what have been shared for so many years here and there, because I had no need to run in supermarkets while all others people were doing the same. Now, they seem to calm down a bit compared to Monday. We'll see what's next because I suspect this is not the end. Unfortunately. Thank you also because I have plenty of Vitamin C (my husband and I bought a lot and send some of them to our respective mothers) and other supplements and good supplies. Thank you because I relatively keep calm most of the time, despite some of them being more mitigated. I remember to breath, taking care of my family as much as I can by phone, as it is all we have. I also allow me to sing (Hurrah for Karaoke!), dance and laugh, and I am not alone at home as my husband work here with me since last Monday. At least, we are together, and this is priceless.

Thank you, from the bottom of my heart! :hug2:
 
Mastering our emotions, not beeing bothered by trivial matters of life, the Work, avoid STS influences, protect yourself from waves (wifi, etc) that activate any electronic implant (silk, avoid wireless devices, wear glasses for screens), develop your antennas (with healthy food, vitamins, etc), developp you vagus (instead of the sympathetic system), base your opinions on true knowledge,
Maybe I miss other points, but this is what comes to mind.
I am immensely grateful to you, nature, for this compact "rescue kit", for reminding me that, in this immense squall, I must continue to do my part, take the helm with both hands and feet firmly planted on the ground, and leave the inscrutable in the hands of those who have the power to do so. :hug2:

“It’s possible to succeed in knowing and doing what is right by faith in a way that is not attainable in a life based on law.” Paul of Tarso
 
To chime in on the lack of hospital beds even before this crisis - one of my clients recently gave birth on the hospital floor because there wasn't a bed for her, so this is already a problem in Scotland too.

Even cancer treatments have been potponed. I'm at home and will be called back to work indefinitely, they said.

I just heard that the situation for women giving birth is pure horror right now here in Germany because they aren't allowed to see visitors, sometimes even not their babies, many are crying all the time, a real tragedy. All "because corona". Not to mention that treatments get postponed, people don't get surgery etc. so that clinics can be prepared for hot air. Unbelievable.
 
I just heard that the situation for women giving birth is pure horror right now here in Germany because they aren't allowed to see visitors, sometimes even not their babies, many are crying all the time, a real tragedy. All "because corona". Not to mention that treatments get postponed, people don't get surgery etc. so that clinics can be prepared for hot air. Unbelievable.

They're talking about that here in the US too. From one of my colleagues FWIW:

This is not public yet, but is coming from sources connected to the DOH (please do not share names if you share info): New info coming from Chinese studies that it can be spread via hair and eyelashes, and that normal precautions not adequate; only full hazmat. If this is correct, current climate will change dramatically more, to try to protect healthcare workers by even further limiting contact and testing (like birthing people having no support person/partner at all), already visitors not allowed in hospitals. My speculation: more cities if not all to go into lockdown.
 
BREAKING: Italian Health Ministry Confirms ONLY TWELVE or 3% of Coronavirus Fatalities in Study Did Not Have Other Serious Health Complications

50% of those who died from coronavirus had THREE DIFFERENT SERIOUS HEALTH CONDITIONS and the average per person had 2.7 serious health conditions.

Only 12 coronavirus fatalities had NO previous health concerns before coming down with the coronavirus.





BREAKING: Italian Health Ministry Confirms ONLY TWELVE or 3% of Coronavirus Fatalities in Study Did Not Have Other Serious Health Complications
 
They're talking about that here in the US too. From one of my colleagues FWIW:

This is not public yet, but is coming from sources connected to the DOH (please do not share names if you share info): New info coming from Chinese studies that it can be spread via hair and eyelashes, and that normal precautions not adequate; only full hazmat. If this is correct, current climate will change dramatically more, to try to protect healthcare workers by even further limiting contact and testing (like birthing people having no support person/partner at all), already visitors not allowed in hospitals. My speculation: more cities if not all to go into lockdown.

Why do I get the feeling that the above is either: 1) The Chinese really did pass that on and are now ROTFLMAO at the West for buying that nonsense; or 2) The US just made that up because they are perverts and that's what they want to do to really terrify people. ???
 
While talking with different people, my questions were:
1- Do you know anyone who caught this thing?
2- Do you know anyone who knows of anyone, who caught it?
etc.
The final answer, after several no and not really is usually that: if it's on the news it must be true! But nobody questioning even themselves? And that is the very alarming state of affairs!
This is ’the’ approach to use when you want to estimate the threat in the your immediate and extended circle. You can then calculate your own percentages.
 
Also I have the feeling that most of our leaders, as well as journalists, professionals, and others who have some degree of influence, have no idea what is going on here. In fact, it is likely that some will act in good faith, although others may do so for other less laudable reasons such as having their 5 minutes of fame on TV or earning some extra money.
Also I have the feeling that most of our leaders, as well as journalists, professionals, and others who have some degree of influence, have no idea what is going on here. In fact, it is likely that some will act in good faith, although others may do so for other less laudable reasons such as having their 5 minutes of fame on TV or earning some extra money.

But logic also indicates that somewhere there must be some people (I'm talking about 3D people) who do know that this whole coronavirus story is a monumental farce. What do they intend or hope to achieve? This is a point that at least for me is still not entirely clear, although it does seem quite likely that some of them are rejoicing at the idea of being able to increase police controls over the population with a minimum of resistance, as well as concentrate even more on a small group of people the control of material resources of the planet. In any case I could also assume that even they may not be fully aware of what the real purpose behind all this would be...

Well, in Scenario 1, we assign some agency or intent to China. Otherwise, if we have to assign agency, it's that 4DSTS is 'driving' this thing in both scenarios.

So concerning 5G it could be that the PTBs didnt count on crazy virus outbreaks at all but they happened precisely because of that technology and what we are seeing now as chaos among the elites is the result of that!

Here's a line of thought fwiw:

Niall's brilliant analysis notwithstanding, we sure are all scratching our heads around this. The question is: how is it possible that this freakout is happening worldwide? Nobody really understands this, and this is also one of the reasons so many people buy into it, both regular folks and the alternative media. How can you say it's not true if everyone, from China to Iran, from Russia to Trump, from France to Serbia is freaking out about it? It completely goes against regular geopolitical thinking.

Now, one conspiracy theory that would explain it is the whole NWO/the UN will enslave us/all nations are secretely in cahoots scenario. But I don't buy it. It just goes against my knowledge and my experience. There is no "secret global cabal" in the normal, earthy sense that has the power to pull something like this off.

Niall's analysis would offer a better solution - the Chinese/Russian complex somehow managed to inject a mind virus into the West. Well I dunno. I'm sure there is some truth to that, but no human agency could calculate such a complex cascade effect in advance IMO. Hence Niall's statement about 4D STS being part of the picture makes sense. It's kind of like evolution - if you just leave a stimulus to "random mutation", it will just vanish, or produce freak effects. To produce anything coherent, the process must be "guided" somehow.

What I'm getting at: the Cs have repeatedly stressed that we should cease to "think 3D" and start developing "4D sight" - seeing the unseen. This has nothing to do with bleed-through and apparitions and such phenomena, it has to do with the mind reaching out beyond what meets the eye.

The Cs also said, in various ways, that cosmic forces will become visible. What if this corona thing is part of this? Maybe we shouldn't expect some light thingy in the sky, or at least not only that, but a development that simply cannot be explained without some cosmic reference? Gurdjieff said, I think, that wars and other mass hysterias are caused by planetary influences and such. Whatever you may call it - is there some cosmic influence that's "driving" this madness? That "switches" people and directs the show, possibly using human pawns here and there? After the programming is complete, are there forces out there who take in the harvest?

Somehow, the game was upped it seems to me. I hardly see how you can see this virus as the nothing-burger that it is without somehow coming to the conclusion that something higher, above our reality, an intelligence beyond humanity, is somehow involved.
 
So, they are not really bluffing, and I will have to have a new attestation each time I walk outside, one to go shopping, and another one if I'm going to do my sport on my own (actually, it's walking with my camera). I asked them if this last activity was allowed, they said yes, as long as I have a new signed certificate with me. :rolleyes:

This is a crystal clear example of conditioning of people to accept totalitarian-style control "for their own good".
 
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