Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[Ruth]

"Now that the 4D STO forces are there, battling with STS ones, is it wishful thinkings from us to say that, if we all ask it, we'll be (really/strongly) protected by 4D STO against any direct attemps to harm us ?"

Would if very much surprise you, (and perhaps not in a good way?), if the C's came back and said: "You ARE our STO forces! You're it! You're all we've got!" and "Stand up and fight now! Or declare defeat, and side with those big fat STS liars and take the consequences!"

It is my opinion that STS only fears being exposed for what they are really up to. The big fat liars! STS runs this planet, so we are obliged to understand how the very worst of them thinks and acts, without expecting to them to become any different. The most we can expect is for them to become irrelevant and that means losing their power. The only action I can think of, is to expose their lies and manipulations and ask them to 'please explain'. They can't, and in the end look really ridiculous, and as a consequence, no more power.

And, to explain my thoughts about STS v's STO. I don't think this is an entirely accurate situation. We all have a little of both in us. It's like a continuum with some people falling more towards one end of the scale and others towards the opposite end. This only applies to people who are aware, and able to make choices, such as a person who can 'see the unseen'... i.e. not that many! It also means 'waking up'. I don't think a person is either STO or STS, but they can however make choices to go in one direction, or the other, and this is not dependent on the intervention (or "protection") of outside forces. In other words, the choice is made actively, not passively.

An example of this might be, say 4D STS, comes in and says "we will protect you" and 3D STS believes them (the idiots). 4D STS are doing this for a reason and they expect a payoff at the end of the day! Once 3D STS has done whatever 'service' 4D STS requires of them, they can then be discarded. This is what a psychopath does, and why they have to lie all the time to get what they want.

A 4D STO might come in and say: "You want to be STO? That's great, I can 'show you the way', but I can't do the work for you". After you've done the work to become more STO, you might find the 'pay off' was actually doing the work in the first place (growth) and being able to "see more".

That's just my opinion. The one thing I truly don't like is having my free will messed with. That, to me, is a very STS thing to do and why they have to be such 'big fat liars' to get away with it!

 

[Laurentien2]

here may be some early example and effect on a negative side of the virus.

Social distancing road rage incident in Sherbrooke - Sherbrooke Record

A Walmart employee from the Galeries Quatre Saisons location is in critical condition after being struck by a car driven by a man who was frustrated by social distancing measures…

www.sherbrookerecord.com

 

[Ruth]

I feel the same way about the testing. It is so questionable I don't really want to be hospitalized for now. And I think it is so "individual" as you say that I am more like "wait and see".

And this virus could as you say be a part of a real kind of "evolution" which I think the Cs do talk about.

I'd like to know how accurate and specific the test is, personally.

 

[Obi]

That's just my opinion. The one thing I truly don't like is having my free will messed with. That, to me, is a very STS thing to do and why they have to be such 'big fat liars' to get away with it!

Strongly agree with you, Ruth. The whole idea of being saved or protected is STS in my opinion. As the C's say knowledge protects and ignorance endangers. If we use the knowledge we have we can protect ourselves and save ourselves and not rely on 4D STO forces to do it for us. Still when sh*t hits the fan and the situation on the ground will be dire, I am sure the Universe and its STO forces will step in and help STO candidates when asked to do so. So, it's better to rely on yourself or the network than hope you will be "saved" by 4D STO.

 

[biuta]

I know sometimes you can attribute something like this to stupidity, and that stupidity is contagious (hence the #STUPIDEMIA we're experiencing), however, since I've heard similar stories from nurses and doctors from both Canada and Romania, I think this might be yet another of the elements of the script being pushed down:

NPR Cookie Consent and Choices

So she donned her own fitted N95 mask that she uses for work.

"I wanted to protect myself," she said. "I wanted to protect my patients."

When she asked hospital administrators why, the reasons kept changing. First, Buckalew said she was told it was against hospital policy for health care workers to bring their own gear. Then, she said, administrators told her if she wore her own N95 mask, others would want to wear the masks as well and the hospital didn't have enough. Finally, Buckalew said, it was that CDC guidelines don't require the mask at all times.

"I said if I can't wear it, then we have a problem," she said.

Refusing to take off her mask, she said, got her terminated. Then, she said, after complaining she was reinstated and then terminated again — all within three days.

The stories I've heard were on how the personnel were stopped from wearing masks in order to not scare patients. Also, constantly changing rules and orders after orders coming in, then the people signing them not following the rules.

It looks like somebody is trying hard to create problems in hospitals all over the World by confusing the personnel, not providing them with adequate protective materials, etc.

 

[biuta]

Would if very much surprise you, (and perhaps not in a good way?), if the C's came back and said: "You ARE our STO forces! You're it! You're all we've got!" and "Stand up and fight now! Or declare defeat, and side with those big fat STS liars and take the consequences!"

It is my opinion that STS only fears being exposed for what they are really up to. The big fat liars! STS runs this planet, so we are obliged to understand how the very worst of them thinks and acts, without expecting to them to become any different. The most we can expect is for them to become irrelevant and that means losing their power. The only action I can think of, is to expose their lies and manipulations and ask them to 'please explain'. They can't, and in the end look really ridiculous, and as a consequence, no more power.

And, to explain my thoughts about STS v's STO. I don't think this is an entirely accurate situation. We all have a little of both in us. It's like a continuum with some people falling more towards one end of the scale and others towards the opposite end. This only applies to people who are aware, and able to make choices, such as a person who can 'see the unseen'... i.e. not that many! It also means 'waking up'. I don't think a person is either STO or STS, but they can however make choices to go in one direction, or the other, and this is not dependent on the intervention (or "protection") of outside forces. In other words, the choice is made actively, not passively.

An example of this might be, say 4D STS, comes in and says "we will protect you" and 3D STS believes them (the idiots). 4D STS are doing this for a reason and they expect a payoff at the end of the day! Once 3D STS has done whatever 'service' 4D STS requires of them, they can then be discarded. This is what a psychopath does, and why they have to lie all the time to get what they want.

A 4D STO might come in and say: "You want to be STO? That's great, I can 'show you the way', but I can't do the work for you". After you've done the work to become more STO, you might find the 'pay off' was actually doing the work in the first place (growth) and being able to "see more".

That's just my opinion. The one thing I truly don't like is having my free will messed with. That, to me, is a very STS thing to do and why they have to be such 'big fat liars' to get away with it!

I agree, we shouldn't expect any magic, we need to fight for what we think is right and probably the best way to do so is to try to raise awareness everywhere we can (don't try to convince somebody), by simply pointing out things, such as the numbers that don't make sense, or the excellent video with Dr. Shiva, etc. Don't expect it to be easy, a lot of people are in deep sleep (funny that the deep state is keeping them there) and it won't be easy, but it has to be done, with a lot of tactfulness: gentle enough not to scare them, strong enough to arouse their curiosity and get them to start thinking for themselves.

 

[biuta]

I'd like to know how accurate and specific the test is, personally.

It would be interesting to know what exactly it is testing. See also what Dr. Shiva said about those codes and how numbers can be manipulated, really interesting.

 

[Mandatory Intellectomy]

There's something different about Gates in this video in comparison to the TED talks and others that I can't quite put my finger on. He seems more child like and the segments where he seems happy about events are just creepy.

Can't wait to see that smile get wiped off his face.

One of my nephews has a father-in-law who tested positive for COVID-19 (who knows how accurately). He has been in the intensive care unit on a ventilator for almost a week. My sister said they are giving him some of the malaria drugs (I am guessing Hydroxychloroquine she was not specific). They say he has double Pneumonia.

It is difficult to ever be sure the reported cases are really COVID-19 but I now have to refrain from saying very much about the hysteria being blown out of proprotion when speaking with this part of my family. I suspect others may run into similar situations.

The fact that they don't even bother with a correct diagnosis because "everything is COVID-19" is in itself a huge risk. How can they treat patients properly if they don't really know what they're sick with? If they treat is as CV19 and it's something else, they could be making things worse.

Another thing about the virus is that there are 2 strains that the Cs mention as 2 major strains and that makes it a bit more complicated I think. They, however, say it is only "at this point".

1. The 2013 strain should be something pretty different. Any version of COVID-19 should be at most about 2 years old, according to what the Cs said. There are dozens of coronaviruses, mostly pretty harmless.
2. They said 2 major strains. It was reported early on that there were 5 strains present in the US, and later I read the scientists identified 8 strains. Presumably this is all COVID-19, though it's hard to know since the media usually make no distinction between that and any other coronavirus.

As for some people having worse symptoms, well, some people will always have worse symptoms than others, for any number of reasons. But also you can't be sure whether those with worse symptoms have covid or something else, since most places don't seem to bother making sure as long as the symptoms seem to match.

This clusterfuck with more assumptions and guesses than facts is creating more problems than it is solving.

 

[biuta]

Programming Infantilization Complete:

Toronto, Canada and Global Breaking News – CP24

Most recent News News business news stories and video from CP24

www.cp24.com

Mayor John Tory says he plans to speak with Premier Doug Ford about ensuring the Easter Bunny is deemed an essential worker, noting that it is a “very urgent situation” for children across the city.

Tory made the comment in an interview with CP24 on Tuesday morning; one day after New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern added both the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy to her country’s list of essential workers during the COVID-19 pandemic.

As we can see, it is part of the script, it is pushed from the top down, all over the World.

 

[dantem]

I’ve been thinking while reading through this thread, and the question “Why now?” Is stuck in my head. When we were told STO was working with virus, I thought, “Why are they working on the virus?” So FRV comes to mind. The discussion way back on 4D STS and the WWII trial run was about getting the right FRV for STS and it didn’t work. Now with articles showing the Cosmos coming alive, I would say “time” is running out for those STS forces looking to change the FRV. We’ve been dealing with high level craziness for years now leading to an apex. I think people reach a state of fatigue, so you take a breather and try again. No wonder STS is going crazy with STO intervention. It’s ruining the FRV they need!

There could be more to it, perhaps.

STO is the creative force, STS forces infiltrate the process, to extract nourishment from their cattle, Us, via suffering, control...

Viruses are the carriers of Evolution? That means creating life, seed life, is practically the STO 'Job' by definition. They're 'doing it' all the time. So by playing with viruses we are playing God, and an higher level STS force would certainly recommend it, and, it's not an 'STO intevention' per se seen from this perspective, but and STO intervention seen solely by our perspective.

Just some thoughts from this unbelievable number of interesting pages.

 

[Ruth]

Ill add fun fact of esoteric nature. Did you know that it is said that the banking abomination we are suffering started EXACTLY 700 years ago when Jupiter and Pluto had a conjuction? And it is also said (in the circles I get my info from) that that same conjuction two days ago was the start of it starting to fall apart!!

Yes, it's pretty interesting what planetary aspects are doing in astrology at the moment. Some pretty heavy aspects involving the SLOOOW moving outer planets. It's having a big effect on astrologers too! Those of them who are noticing anyway, and not all the 'gaga new agey' types.

Marina recently did a comparison of all the major pandemics and where the three planets, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto were, and in what signs. Quite interesting that they were all conjucting in cardinal signs!

Also interesting that the Moon's nodes have moved into Gemini (North) and Sagittarius (South), so it's not surprising that people might be thinking in terms of a 'splitting of realities' (Gemini) as well as having imposed on them the Sagittarian things like laws and belief systems perhaps even masquerading as 'religion'? Maybe Sagittarius is the sign representing 'Law and Order'?

Saturn (planet of restriction) is moving into Aquarius (sign that represents other people, groups and technology) currently in conjunction with Mars (planet of action) These two don't work well together for obvious reasons! One wants to go, go, go and the other wants to stop, stop, stop. Pluto (planet of destruction and rebirth) is currently residing in Capricorn with Jupiter (planet of expansion) next to it That's just going to make destruction and rebirth 'bigger', (thanks Jupiter!) In the US chart, Pluto resides in Capricorn in the 2nd house (house of possessions, money and material things)

Jupiter will catch up to Saturn, inevitably, so that means that restrictions of other people and technology will be 'made bigger' by Jupiter (again, thanks Jupiter!). Whilst all this is 'playing out', Uranus is up there in Taurus, probably waiting to create earthquake or tectonic movements of some description, especially when it comes into stressful aspects with other planets.

I'm not an astrologer, but I find it fascinating to look at what they are saying, as long as they're not 'sugar coating' it, or telling us rubbish!

 

[dredger]

Would if very much surprise you, (and perhaps not in a good way?), if the C's came back and said: "You ARE our STO forces! You're it! You're all we've got!" and "Stand up and fight now! Or declare defeat, and side with those big fat STS liars and take the consequences!"

It is my opinion that STS only fears being exposed for what they are really up to. The big fat liars! STS runs this planet, so we are obliged to understand how the very worst of them thinks and acts, without expecting to them to become any different. The most we can expect is for them to become irrelevant and that means losing their power. The only action I can think of, is to expose their lies and manipulations and ask them to 'please explain'. They can't, and in the end look really ridiculous, and as a consequence, no more power.

And, to explain my thoughts about STS v's STO. I don't think this is an entirely accurate situation. We all have a little of both in us. It's like a continuum with some people falling more towards one end of the scale and others towards the opposite end. This only applies to people who are aware, and able to make choices, such as a person who can 'see the unseen'... i.e. not that many! It also means 'waking up'. I don't think a person is either STO or STS, but they can however make choices to go in one direction, or the other, and this is not dependent on the intervention (or "protection") of outside forces. In other words, the choice is made actively, not passively.

An example of this might be, say 4D STS, comes in and says "we will protect you" and 3D STS believes them (the idiots). 4D STS are doing this for a reason and they expect a payoff at the end of the day! Once 3D STS has done whatever 'service' 4D STS requires of them, they can then be discarded. This is what a psychopath does, and why they have to lie all the time to get what they want.

A 4D STO might come in and say: "You want to be STO? That's great, I can 'show you the way', but I can't do the work for you". After you've done the work to become more STO, you might find the 'pay off' was actually doing the work in the first place (growth) and being able to "see more".

That's just my opinion. The one thing I truly don't like is having my free will messed with. That, to me, is a very STS thing to do and why they have to be such 'big fat liars' to get away with it!

Strongly agree with you, Ruth. The whole idea of being saved or protected is STS in my opinion. As the C's say knowledge protects and ignorance endangers. If we use the knowledge we have we can protect ourselves and save ourselves and not rely on 4D STO forces to do it for us. Still when sh*t hits the fan and the situation on the ground will be dire, I am sure the Universe and its STO forces will step in and help STO candidates when asked to do so. So, it's better to rely on yourself or the network than hope you will be "saved" by 4D STO.

I agree, we shouldn't expect any magic, we need to fight for what we think is right and probably the best way to do so is to try to raise awareness everywhere we can (don't try to convince somebody), by simply pointing out things, such as the numbers that don't make sense, or the excellent video with Dr. Shiva, etc. Don't expect it to be easy, a lot of people are in deep sleep (funny that the deep state is keeping them there) and it won't be easy, but it has to be done, with a lot of tactfulness: gentle enough not to scare them, strong enough to arouse their curiosity and get them to start thinking for themselves.

Thanks for opening the debate and sharing ideas and thoughts, indeed appreciated and would say "useful".
Sure, in the STS world there's no solidarity, no consideration for the ones that obey you, they are useful and expandable resources. What I meant by my question was to wonder/consider the possibility that the 4D STS would have a plan/wish to erradicate the kind of "truth virus" we all represent (ie STO candidates), and if in this case :
1. Would they dare/be in measure/will harm us (in mass) ?
2. Wonder if there's not a kind of rule preventing to do it ?
3. Wonder if 4D STO would perform an active act if the response of the 1st point is "yes" and the 2nd point is "no" - moreover if we all, as united team, we ask for help & protection.

I mean, who know how we are considered by 4D STS and 4D STO at this moment, who exactly know for sure if we are or are not the center of many attentions ? It's the main goal behind the question, could be formulated differently, but i thought this would a worth question to ask, or subject to address to the C's. I even more think it would be a good topic considering the actual speeding-up of the actual events + the visible effect we can all see here (just see how this thread is supported).
It's different to ask to be protected and "it"s done", "nothing to do", "free lunch", sorry if some misunderstood, i explained that this does not prevent us to do our "job" to learn and practice. But as i many time read, C's said that if you ask for help you'll be heard. I'm not here speaking about having like an angel coming down with a big sword protecting you meaning that you can now rest and don't learn nor act anymore, I was here more considering all of us at the same time, the group, the community - how are we considered by 4D beings at this moment, looking at the visible activation of many of us like me who remained kinda "dormant" and start to activate now ? I thought questioning this aspect and discussing it is a good topic.

 

[Mandatory Intellectomy]

It just makes me wonder about what exactly causes the virus to behave so differently per individual.

Probably a lot of things. Certainly genetics, diet, various medical conditions, environment, people's different habits, etc. Pretty sure Wim Hof would crush the virus like a little bug.
But there are probably many other factors we don't see. The Cs said it can affect STO oriented people differently than STS. Nobody on this planet knows how to measure something like that. So the question is, how many other invisible factors are there? And the fact is that nobody has a clue.

do we truly understand the nature of viruses

Not by a long shot. There are very few people who have at least tried. The science is full of prejudice and assumptions, just like that whole Darwinism fiasco.

 

[mARTinSky]

A dim light begins to appear at the end of this tunnel: Coronavirus: The European countries beginning to lift lockdown measures

The leaders of Denmark, Czech Republic and Austria are considering easing coronavirus lockdown restrictions in their countries.

Schools and day care centres are set to reopen in Denmark on 15 April in what will be the first steps the country is taking to relax its quarantine rules.

Austria, which shares a border with hard-hit Italy, will look to reopen some shops but widen the requirement to wear face masks from 14 April.

This is good news because it shows there are cracks in their narrative, and that their aggressive approach is not as efficient as they were hoping for. I hope it's just the beginning of similar lifting measures around the globe.

 

[Agron]

And, to explain my thoughts about STS v's STO. I don't think this is an entirely accurate situation. We all have a little of both in us. It's like a continuum with some people falling more towards one end of the scale and others towards the opposite end. This only applies to people who are aware, and able to make choices, such as a person who can 'see the unseen'... i.e. not that many!

Ive come to realize that when we try and help people, who are not yet ready and begging for help/new knowledge and a re-boot of their mindset, we are not only taking their karmic lessons upon our backs, but we are essentially behaving like STS "Saints" who want others to be like them. A huge lesson for me!! When I finally connected the dots in my mind and I decided that I needed to let others be themselves I felt a huge relief. And in that moment I had an opportunity to look at my STS behaviour through a set of new eyes and only then I started to really change. And thats when my world followed. Thats why I emphasize that THE CHANGE COMES FROM WITHIN.