Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[Approaching Infinity]

I agree with that, but the fact is that UK is not reporting on a daily basis COVID deaths outside the hospitals. It is publishing them weekly, but only for England and Wales, and it is not up to date (right now it's up to week ending 3 April 2020). So the number of deaths in the UK that we can see on worldometers website is only for people who died in the hospitals, and the offical number of deaths in the UK will be even higher eventually.

Looks like they just published the latest report:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1252515415873466368

Keeping in mind those are deaths officially counted as Covid-19, whether or not that's the actual cause.

But looking at the overall mortality data (regardless of corona), here's the picture. That's around 15,000 excess deaths (i.e., above average, whereas the deaths from Jan 11 to Mar 20 were all below average) in those last 3 weeks, 12,000 of which have been attributed as "involving COVID-19".

Week number		1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14
Week ended	03-Jan-20	10-Jan-20	17-Jan-20	24-Jan-20	31-Jan-20	07-Feb-20	14-Feb-20	21-Feb-20	28-Feb-20	06-Mar-20	13-Mar-20	20-Mar-20	27-Mar-20	03-Apr-20	10-Apr-20
Total deaths, all ages	12,254​	14,058	12,990	11,856	11,612	10,986	10,944	10,841	10,816	10,895	11,019	10,645	11,141	16,387	18,516
Total deaths: average of corresponding week over the previous 5 years 1 (England and Wales)	12,175​	13,822	13,216	12,760	12,206	11,925	11,627	11,548	11,183	11,498	11,205	10,573	10,130	10,305	10,520

 

[bianca etezete]

I apologize now, but I'm about to burst. Today came the announcement that all health care providers in Germany have a 90% drop in sales. Other industries are dependent on the measures taken by politics - we are dependent on when a vaccination comes. A very good aftercare system was developed in Germany. Clinic - rehabilitation - practice. There are currently around 35,000 physiotherapy practices in Germany. Now a really outrageous statement comes from prescribing doctors: Do not go to therapy under any circumstances.

So we don't get any recipes at Corona anymore. Today, politics decided to put us under a rescue package. 40% of sales in quarter 2019. What's that supposed to mean? So we will definitely not see any more patients until the vaccine is there. And by then at least 50% of all practices will no longer be there. This affects everyone in the subsequent chain. Immense damage that can never be repaired. No colleague will ever open a practice again. And then thousands of therapists will be on the street without an employer. Here, the entire health system is hit against the wall with immense damage that cannot be repaired. Today I ordered a recipe for a home visit. I got the answer no therapy two time in the week . Because of Corona. Such nonsense. Whether I go once a week or twice, the danger is always the same.

I have a suspicion here. It's about savings in the remedies area and the virus was very well for that . And under the guise of Corona, our seriously ill patients will no longer receive care. And it's also about all of us wanting to get vaccinated as soon as possible so we can survive, I'm so angry.

yes, you are right. It stinks.

I talked to our tax consultant today and asked if she has already business clients that go into insolvency. She said no, not until now, BUT she warns and warns peeps about the immediate help programme to be careful HOW they spend the given money, because she is totally sure that later on it will be checked and - even if people spent the money for themselves (for living) and not for paying bills or rent of the business property, they will have to pay it back! She even said that the help money itself will be taxed!

 

[RflctnOfU]

6 pages behind, so I don’t know if this was posted already. Interesting hot mic moment I just saw on twitter.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1252623828234223623

 

[mrtn]

6 pages behind, so I don’t know if this was posted already. Interesting hot mic moment I just saw on twitter.

It was, but not with subtitles and I didn't understand much. Thanks!

 

[Breton]

I just want to share with you all that this day felt to me just like a normal day in Finland as if there was no such thing as COVID-19(84).

It is probably the first day with double digit temperatures (Celsius), and the sun was shining brightly, and like every spring, Finns just want to get out and leave the gloomy and dark winter behind.

As I went for a swim in the nearby lake, I saw kids playing tag in the park and riding their bikes. A teenage couple walked down the sidewalk arm in arm. A neighbor got his motorcycle out and went for a drive. While I was in a lake and quietly reciting the Prayer of the Soul, a couple of teenage girls stopped to wash their hands in the lake after they had been throwing a ball around.

Yes, it was a moment of peace and normality while the world goes insane.

[Side note: Water was +3.5C but it is ok, because I am cold-adapted - ]

 

[Yupo]

Providers in US got stimulus payments late last week from HHS, but there are conditions attached. 10 pages of conditions. Money has to be spent in preparation for Covid, and on caring for actual or suspected Covid patients. Other interesting conditions are things like one cannot lobby for gun control or abortion related things. Very political stuff. So we are expected to keep detailed records of spending as relates to these things.
In my specialty, I don't see such complaints or respiratory illnesses. But all of a sudden in the news is a new symptom that directly relates to my specialty. Makes some sense in terms of coagulopathy reports. But I almost wonder if this was made up just so my specialty has a way to see such patients.
My professional association warned us not to spend the money, as is expected that it might be taken back if compliance is not as demanded.
In my case it was not a lot of money, so I can personally cover the loss if they need to take it back. I have a very small practice. But some places got huge payments.
This has nothing to do with Paycheck Protection Program from SBA. I applied for that but the program ran out of money very quickly.
Usually I keep a few time slots open every day for urgent cases. And right now I'm willing to see such people, even though office is closed. It is easy to reach us by pager. But where are they? No one is calling. Very strange.
Either they are falling through the cracks or they are not sick anymore?
I'm hearing the same from others.
Will we even have patients anymore if and when things get back to so called normal?

 

[Esprit]

@Keit can you please send me the link of this information:

I wrote an article (for Croatian blog) about his interview regarding the coronavirus but I'm still not sure should we publish this because we trying to stay low as C's recommended in the last session.

I think it's a good idea to trust our 'radar' on this. If it feels off better be safe than sorry. We will probably do more decisions based on fear in these times but it's better than showing a big ego 'hey! I'm not sacred' and regret it later.

At this point, knowing how secret services operate, we probably are all stamped disidants here on the forum. Personnaly I chose carefully what I post on FB sticking to the not too obvious stuff.

 

[Yupo]

I think it's a good idea to trust our 'radar' on this. If it feels off better be safe than sorry. We will probably do more decisions based on fear in these times but it's better than showing a big ego 'hey! I'm not sacred' and regret it later.

At this point, knowing how secret services operate, we probably are all stamped disidants here on the forum. Personnaly I chose carefully what I post on FB sticking to the not too obvious stuff.

We and many others are marked already. We know how regimes treated such people in the past. I do think it is better to keep a low profile, but I'm just not sure it will save us from what appears to be coming. *sigh*

 

[Tauriel]

So we don't get any recipes at Corona anymore. Today, politics decided to put us under a rescue package. 40% of sales in quarter 2019. What's that supposed to mean? So we will definitely not see any more patients until the vaccine is there. And by then at least 50% of all practices will no longer be there

Hello Nachtweide, sorry to hear that you're struggling so hard. Do I get this right? It's not forbidden to go and receive physiotherapy but people are staying away due to fear of catching the virus or doctors are not prescribing any more physiotherapy?

The physiotherapy pratice I go to is already on reduced working hours.
Had an appointment today and as I talked to my therapist she wasn't too worried and still believes things will get back to 'normal' soon. I hope she's right although I have my doubts.

As a side note: My therapist with her face mask looked sweaty. I suggested that she could remove her mask while treating me.
She tore down her mask saying, "At last I can breathe."
These days it's really kinda 'suffocating' to go out there and do stuff and such small things as removing a face mask become almost an act of rebellion.

 

[Tauriel]

At this point, knowing how secret services operate, we probably are all stamped disidants here on the forum. Personnaly I chose carefully what I post on FB sticking to the not too obvious stuff.

We and many others are marked already. We know how regimes treated such people in the past. I do think it is better to keep a low profile, but I'm just not sure it will save us from what appears to be coming. *sigh*

I agree Yupo, we've been marked already. I thought about keeping it low on FB but what would be the difference? If the people who see are silent who will speak out?[/QUOTE]

 

[Cosmos]

Sorry if that was mentioned before. Below you find Lavrov's recent statements at a Public Diplomacy Fund meeting

"Lavrov discusses instability of the international security system, economic & political volatility amid #COVID19 pandemic".

I've just skipped through it, but one thing I noticed is that russia seems to be using this situation in order to get rid of the sanction madness not only for russia but all the other countries such as Iran etc. Quite a smart move, now is certainly the best time for it! Could very well be that russia is a number of chess moves ahead and using this situation to restructure things not only for russia in a better way.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=543990116302893

 

[Z...]

I remember opening of 2012 London olympic games and thinking WTH ? It stirred s lot of controversy at the time. Now is this too much of coincidence or not ? Allegedly this is exactly what Satanists like to do - flaunt it.
i think we had a thread about London olympics somewhere on the forum - but i couldn’t find it.

 

[karo]

I am not sure I am sensing sarcasm in the first sentence or not, but people are hardly dying from this virus (not more than from a seasonal flu) and hospitals are not overcrowded in Poland (in fact most of them are empty, a few days ago I delivered a respirator to Kędzierzyn and the big regional hospital was a ghost town), but I agree with the latter part of your statement. It is a great time to catch up on reading the essential materials.

You are sensing it right, I wasn't very precise with my post and only highlighted one aspect of most common attitude toward virus/situation among my social circle, trying to be 'funny' with this sentence and to express my helplessness. There is a lot of work in front of me so going back to it

 

[flashgordonv]

Having grown up with a New Zealand born stepfather, visited your beautiful country twice (both Islands) and worked and socialised with more Kiwis than I could possibly begin to count. The recent ‘culture’ question really struck a chord.

Because if there’s a more adventurous, freedom loving, outdoorsy, fearless (in the name of fun) open minded nationality on the planet - I’m yet to come across them...

And considering the far lower level of restriction we have been exposed to, regardless the level of flagrant disregard for even these ‘conditions’ on this side of the ditch seems baffling compared to NZ!

Can only assume that if the populations affection and respect for your PM was half that of ours (for her, not our retards...) than perhaps the broad acceptance could be understood akin to that given to the Churchill’s and Caesar’s of days gone by?

With ANZAC day approaching, I also wonder if there’s some deep philosophical distinction that might be teased from Rommel?


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Wondering whether some form of deep ‘programming’ could be drawn from the disparities experienced by a colonial / convict culture versus that of free settlement incorporating indigenous treaty?

I'm not so sure there is a universal love for the PM here. Certainly it is portrayed that way in the international media. A lot of people see her as a shallow publicity seeking socialist and there is quite a bit of discussion around whether she will be a one term PM. Having said that, those that like her, love her with a passion and brook no criticism of her, so social media is a fun place when she is critiqued.

On the other hand, I have been absolutely gobsmacked at the uniform desire to obey the rules, to stay at home and to keep people safe. Maybe this was pitched at a level that resonated with the fundamental decency of the people without alerting their BS meters. There sure aren't many people who see what is happening. It is a mind virus and for whatever reason sadly the NZ population has been particularly susceptible.

 

[Seamus]

Thanks, I downloaded it. I will try to edit my post there and see what it can do. When I do get it done, where does someone submit articles for consideration by SOTT?

I feel another one coming in my continuing ruminations as I consider Seamas' reply to my post on Naessens. I think it is important, because if what Gaston Naessens and the others saw in their work is true, then not only does the terrain (e.g. the condition of the body or environment) matter, but:

The "terrain" determines the DNA that manifests therein.

What Naessens, Rife, Reich, and Bechamp may have witnessed with their advanced microscopes is analogous to the discoveries that Antonie van Leeuwenhoek and Galileo Galilei made with the inventions of the first microscope and telescopes, respectively.

As Leeuwenhoek and Galileo expanded the 3D vision of man beyond the accepted limits of reality during their times; so, too, have these four men done so with their advanced light microscope technologies (each of whom developed similar instruments independently of one another, over 100 years apart in time) which allowed them to visualize living organisms at magnifications only reportedly possible by electron microscopes. In fact: if the work that they did, independently of each other yet with very similar results, repeatedly - is confirmed, then:

what they were witnessing is nothing less than intelligent design in action.

No WONDER their discoveries were dealt with so harshly by the medical complex of their times! What they discovered threatened to expose their backwards "health" system. Three of these men had their careers ruined; one (Bechamp) was almost forgotten to history though his discoveries were at least as great as Pasteur; and two of them were prosecuted for their work, with Reich dying in prison - after which all of his work was seized and destroyed (six tons of it) by the government and his name forever sullied afterwards.

I think this forum is ready now for this information, after the Behe material. If anyone wants to get a jump on this stuff, I thank Channa for this gem of a find - a FREE download of Christopher Bird's book:

Full text of "The Persecution And Trial Of Gaston Naessens"

I'm certainly looking forward to reading more about all four of them and discussing it, I only have a superficial knowledge of them at this point. I really appreciate that you brought it up and I wouldn't be surprised if you're right.

I would also be very interested in acquiring and learning to use one of the super powerful light microscopes you mentioned to see for myself. At the end of the day a scientific discovery is only really valuable if it can be reproduced, OSIT. Do you have one, or have you ever used one? Just curious...