Hello Ketone Cop,
About the “Garden of Eden Fall” I gather some of information from transcripts, and the link is below,
And some of other topics I like to see if I can find out later.
Adventurous Souls Battle/Warfare
Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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Hello Ketone Cop,
About the “Garden of Eden Fall” I gather some of information from transcripts, and the link is below,
And some of other topics I like to see if I can find out later.
Adventurous Souls Battle/Warfare
Ketone Cop
Jedi Council Member
Thank you for that, Tauriel. That post makes a lot of sense. It looks like I need to read more Michael Topper.
The idea I had of the higher STS forces being soulless originally came to me by reading some texts about Gnostic Christianity, where what was discovered in the Nag Hammadi codices describes these beings - archons, as well as reptilians and greys - as having no innate ennoia or innate intentionality (no ability to create, only to imitate):
John Lamb Lash
The Archons By John Lamb Lash
This is from John Lamb Lash's website: Alien Dreaming: The Enigma of the Archons Fractal Visions The Archons may be regarded as prog...
missmaryblack.blogspot.com
"The declaration of the chief Archon that he is the only god in the cosmos is, needless to say, a defining moment in Gnostic cosmology — if not in human evolution as well. All the cosmological texts describe this event, with slight variations. Gnostics were insistent on the identification of Yaldabaoth with Yahweh or Jehovah, the tribal god of the Hebrews. This deity is not only blind, but witless and insane (Hypostasis of the Archons 89: 24-25). To Gnostics insanity is not so much unsoundness of mind as the consequence of failure to correct mental errors. The mentality of the Archons "cannot be rectified," and, what's worse, "the archontic nature is not capable of development." (Gilhus, The Nature of the Archons, p. 40) Due to the manner of their generation, Archons have no ennoia, no innate intentionality. Theirs is an Alien Dreaming, set apart from the biosphere, the intelligent life-field of Gaia."
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After my previous post I did a search on "Gnostic Christianity" on the forums, and I found a wealth of material I had either forgotten about or never realized existed, including Laura's mammoth thread on Caesar and other related materials. Maybe I noticed it before but I wasn't ready to learn that material at the time. But what almost overwhelms me is the sheer amount of material that Laura has produced - are you guys sure there's only ONE Laura?!
In any case, it looks like Laura already covered all this material before. When I did a search for "John Lamb Lash" and his book, "Not in His Image" not much came up so I thought I was presenting something potentially new. I can see now just how far off the mark I am, and also since Mr. Lash isn't covered here then he probably doesn't have a real handle on the material. I have so much yet to learn - and *unlearn*. Anyway: more noise. Sigh...
It is just that I feel that time really is close where we will soon know the TRUTH. And I feel pressed for time to come to an understanding that I can take with me beyond this world.
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Anyway: here's what's going on in California re: COVID-1984. It looks like people are getting more brazen in their support for ending the lock down:
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VACAVILLE, Calif. —
Protesters gathered in Vacaville Sunday for a “Pro California Open the State” rally. The demonstration started around 1 p.m. in front of the Vacaville City Hall. Protesters want state and local officials to lift stay-at-home orders, which were put into place to mitigate the spread of the novel coronavirus. Organizers said they want this to become a weekly rally “until our state is back to normal.” About 200 people were at the protest, holding signs, flying American flags and encouraging people driving by to honk in support of reopening California.
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Also, there are new testing sites opening up here. For now, they are voluntary - but will it become mandatory eventually? Is this another "line in the sand" for me?
And then, this happened - 40,000 pounds of pork went up in flames:
I wonder if we should be monitoring stuff like this too, since meat-packing plants are closing down. Will there be concerted attempts to get rid of existing stockpiles of meat? This one may just be an accident, but who knows these days?
Today, with all this fiasco. This really struck to the heart of me, for one, I had managed to obtain a supplier of pasture raised chicken and grass fed meat, in the area. I placed my order almost 2 weeks ago, I have not had a reply, my order was modest, concerning my circumstances, $100, but it was a splurge. We had a nice conversation, she informed her daughter comes to the area on a weekly basis (she has a boyfriend in the area) so delivery was possible. She said that the delivery would be on Monday.
I called her today, the message was, due to the influx of orders, she will only reply to telephone queries at specific timelines, no timeline was given. My hopes have been dashed and blighted again, by the majority for the few.
They do supply to an establishment in the area that supplies wholesome products from all over the world (I was surprised on one visit to obtain a bottle of olive oil from Palestine). Will call tomorrow to find out the scoop if this is a reality.
My age and health designate me as a risk category, I do have high blood pressure, but because of a diligent search by a GP at the time (in Canada) I was in my early 40's. I know the reason. I have one kidney with only 25% function. This never really impacted my health, my renal function blood work has remained within normal parameters Thanks to a none generic medication, which I have to fight tooth and nail to maintain, and after taking many generics. which were nothing more than an exercise in futility, they just didn't work. After researching how and where they are produced, this only served to strengthen why they were not effective in treating the conditions they purported to treat.
Today, I talked to the pharmacist, at a well know grocery store, I have been dealing with them for years since I moved to the area. The prescription I refiled over the phone was not filled because the medication was not available, and a would not be available for another 2 weeks, so I am told. Previously on talking at the beginning of the month, I was informed by another pharmacist, that there was a good supply, and not to worry.
It was recommended after much conservation, to try another pharmacy with greater warehouse stocks, and transfer to that pharmacy, which I did and was lucky enough to obtain another months supply. It was also suggested I call my GP to discuss other medication alternatives, Well I have gone that route, I only visit for a med repeat Rx. He always pushes on me, I guess for my age the dreaded statins. He reminds me of the Rockfeller model of health and wellbeing. A legalized drug pusher for big pharma. Will have to wait ans see how this develops. I dread in some sense, I am reminded of the biblical prophecy regarding age, three scores and ten, which I am on the verge, no quite there yet.
Another strange thing I observed today, which is puzzling me, on the entry way to my apartment building, and I have walked this path for many years, I look down and notice the pathway before looking up at the skies above, something I usually do. I noticed a strange hand print on the concrete path. It was grey in area, I thougt some child had traced the image, I rubbed it with my foot, it didn't rub off. It was of a hand, not sure if I can explain it correctly, the thumb was outstretched from the palm, the fourth and fith fingers were upright, the ist finger was laid down toward the palm, the third finger was laid down. across and covering the fourth and fith fingers, which I thought was
I called her today, the message was, due to the influx of orders, she will only reply to telephone queries at specific timelines, no timeline was given. My hopes have been dashed and blighted again, by the majority for the few.
They do supply to an establishment in the area that supplies wholesome products from all over the world (I was surprised on one visit to obtain a bottle of olive oil from Palestine). Will call tomorrow to find out the scoop if this is a reality.
My age and health designate me as a risk category, I do have high blood pressure, but because of a diligent search by a GP at the time (in Canada) I was in my early 40's. I know the reason. I have one kidney with only 25% function. This never really impacted my health, my renal function blood work has remained within normal parameters Thanks to a none generic medication, which I have to fight tooth and nail to maintain, and after taking many generics. which were nothing more than an exercise in futility, they just didn't work. After researching how and where they are produced, this only served to strengthen why they were not effective in treating the conditions they purported to treat.
Today, I talked to the pharmacist, at a well know grocery store, I have been dealing with them for years since I moved to the area. The prescription I refiled over the phone was not filled because the medication was not available, and a would not be available for another 2 weeks, so I am told. Previously on talking at the beginning of the month, I was informed by another pharmacist, that there was a good supply, and not to worry.
It was recommended after much conservation, to try another pharmacy with greater warehouse stocks, and transfer to that pharmacy, which I did and was lucky enough to obtain another months supply. It was also suggested I call my GP to discuss other medication alternatives, Well I have gone that route, I only visit for a med repeat Rx. He always pushes on me, I guess for my age the dreaded statins. He reminds me of the Rockfeller model of health and wellbeing. A legalized drug pusher for big pharma. Will have to wait ans see how this develops. I dread in some sense, I am reminded of the biblical prophecy regarding age, three scores and ten, which I am on the verge, no quite there yet.
Another strange thing I observed today, which is puzzling me, on the entry way to my apartment building, and I have walked this path for many years, I look down and notice the pathway before looking up at the skies above, something I usually do. I noticed a strange hand print on the concrete path. It was grey in area, I thougt some child had traced the image, I rubbed it with my foot, it didn't rub off. It was of a hand, not sure if I can explain it correctly, the thumb was outstretched from the palm, the fourth and fith fingers were upright, the ist finger was laid down toward the palm, the third finger was laid down. across and covering the fourth and fith fingers, which I thought was
Ketone Cop, most of your questions are answered in Pierre's book so, I suggest you pick up a copy asap. Also I am linking below couple of articles for you to read which will help understand the kind of damage a passing body (comets or planets) can cause on a planet like Earth.
Did Earth 'Steal' Martian Water?
While finalizing the writing of the article titled "Of Flash Frozen Mammoths and Cosmic Catastrophes", I encountered an unexpected anomaly. The time of the demise of the mammoths is also known as the Younger Dryas, a period of global cooling that...
www.sott.net
The Seven Destructive Earth Passes of Comet Venus
In a previous article titled "Did Earth 'Steal' Martian Water?", I mentioned that a close encounter between Mars and Earth occurred ca. 12,500 BP (10,500 BC). Mars was knocked close to Earth by Venus which, at the time, was a cometary body. The...
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Also, its not a 12,000 year destruction cycle per se but rather a few separate cycles which are all coming together now. Something like below -
- The main one to pay attention to is the 3600 year Comet cluster cycle which is beginning to show its affects both physically and psychically. This is a fairly large cluster of comets of various shape and sizes on a orbit which is not on the plane of the ecliptic. The C's have described this orbit in one of the earlier sessions.
- The second is the Sun's twin, Nemesis which is a much longer cycle, 26.9 million years to be exact and it nudges a whole bunch of asteroids from the Oort cloud into the inner part of Solar system. There is the danger from some of those asteroids making their way to Earth but a greater danger is from the grounding effect on the Sun due to Nemesis stealing a bit of Sun's share of electricity from the Galactic arm. This halts Sun's corona discharges limiting the flow to electricity to Earth and rest of the planetary bodies which slows their rotation ever so slightly. You see that all planets are homopolar motors and spin on their axis thanks to the electricity received from the Sun. The slowing of rotation can wreak havoc on Earth's crustal plates due to release of pressure at Equator and greater pressure exerted at tropics. This can cause subduction of large land masses e.g. Continent of Lemuria and/or Atlantis going under water within hours and new mountain ranges rising such as ones lining the Pacific ring of fire.
- The Realm Border Crossing such as "The Wave" and occurs every 300,000 odd years. This is something more Cosmic driven and not easy to explain in 3D terms. Simply understand that it is a form of energy which can raise planets into higher densities at STO or STS polarisation when utilised accordingly. It has collateral effects such as extreme weather phenomenon and other electrically driven events which would manifest as planetary scale disasters in 3D. This is exacerbated in part, due to limited awareness of a planet's inhabitants and inability to ride the wave so to speak.
In terms of the STS and STO battles and our own fall from the state of Eden, try and not get too much hung up on the machinations, manifestations and their effects. All is part of the natural cycle and it is what it is. No point ruminating over why we fell and how. We wanted to experience learning in short wave cycles hence chose the path of physicality - the STS merely exploited us on that path because they can. They are the lords of physical/material universe so, its not easy to escape their control in that realm. What we must focus now is to keep raising our collective awareness and learning to use our Free Will to make better choices. Our goal is not to defeat the lords of entropy in their backyard but simply outgrow and move out of that backyard.
The comets will arrive and do their thing. They may destroy us physically but remember that our awareness, memories, experiences and lessons are never destroyed. We carry them with us wherever we end up. And lets pray and intend that we end up in a brave new world with all of our knowledge and awareness intact.
Edit- Wanted to add that its the knowledge of some of the phenomenon and events I have described above that the PTB wish to hide from the masses. Their goal is to use these disasters to exert greater level of control on the population in the hope to retaining their position and control when the dust settles. The current Covid-19 lockdown is an extension of the trials they have been running since WWII days and other numerous wars, 911 etc. How wrong they are and the Universe will prove it to them. Not even an advanced civilisation such as Atlantis could survive such disasters then where do we stand in the picture?
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anka
The Living Force
Thanks for pointing that out, dantem! Good to know these details.
I believe there is this kind of politician in every parliament. Basically a figure that very few take seriously but they have their function, often as a part of controlled opposition which is allowed to send / express certain messages and opinions out there (which other players would not dare to say because they would loose their image) so it becomes part of information field. And sometimes that can be used to create Overton window, other times to find out who gets attracted to some ideas. Think in Russia this type of politician would be V. Zhirinovsky, who gets invited to various TV programs, basically speaks like Alex Jones with often very radical (sometimes totally stupid) views of political and social affairs. Or the former Russian military officer from the video posted here previously, who was described by Keith as basically not trust-worthy, anti-Putin figure.
But as you say, if these speeches and statements help to wake a few people up then that's good enough, never mind the postman.
psychegram
The Living Force
I cannot express in words how angry those videos made me.
As some states start opening up business, others are clamping down harder, even as data continue to reveal this crisis as manufactured.
This is Oregon, USA. If you test positive for COVID-19, they can take your children away if a civil servant determines that you can't support them as a result. In force as of just eleven days ago.
This is Oregon, USA. If you test positive for COVID-19, they can take your children away if a civil servant determines that you can't support them as a result. In force as of just eleven days ago.
This Boston Globe article (normally blocked by a paywall, unless you escape it) sets public expectations for the future of Massachusetts, USA, and reveals that the governor's public-health advisers are actually "influenced" by the Massachusetts High Technology Council, a consortium of business leaders (which I find very interesting) who have created an advisory report (contributors are high-tech, pharmaceutical, medical, legal, financial, and academic) being pushed by the CEO of the notoriously predatory Bain Capital (formerly led by never-Trumper Mitt Romney, former governor of Massachusetts, former R nominee for US president [2012, capitulated to Barack Obama] and now senator of Utah).
The cited report is here: http://www.mhtc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MHTC-COVID-19-Briefing-5.1.20.pdf
The cited report is here: http://www.mhtc.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/MHTC-COVID-19-Briefing-5.1.20.pdf
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Sodajaxon
Jedi
Yes, this is the law part that we all need to change as we cross safely thru the border realm.
there are alot of people that are working on laws, like this that are popping up all over.
This tool has helped neighborhoods stop smart meter installations, there is a group of people working on the vaccination side of this right now.
Its called the Notice of Liability
This is very good news!
WHO, CDC & Gates Foundation Defunded Because of Vaccine Fraud - C-VINE Network
April 24, 2020 ~ C-VINE Vetted for Accuracy BREAKING NEWS – Government Funding Pulled from Gates Foundation, WHO and CDC (Center for Disease Control). (U.S. Government lost LANDMARK VACCINE LAWSUIT …
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InPower Movement
Ketone Cop
Jedi Council Member
Hi Guts, and thanks, I have been enjoying your posts, too. It looks like several people who have joined the forum recently (like us) came in already at least somewhat knowledgeable and ready to contribute meaningfully from the start.
Yes, I have been told before that I look like Robin Williams. I was told as well that I looked like former president Bush Jr. I'll take the former, thank you...
Just read this article from Zero Hedge:
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
This is just getting beyond insane - unless the ultimate goal is to program us to accept being six feet under and lying in a box...
Persephone
Jedi Master
Thank you SevenFeathers. I suggested her olive leaf and hawthorn, I didn't know about Mukta Vati. In what form do you take Vitamin C ?
Just saw this at whatreallyhappened:
Since this involves New Mexico, it really made me wonder if this was just about CV-19. Closing all the roads into a town seems really extreme although the order will be lifted on Monday night. I suppose the pandemic and resultant lockdowns could be cover for any 4D manifestations starting to take place. Maybe that's not what is happening in this case, but maybe on the horizon.
Forgetting about all the number games for a moment, here are a few thoughts from a philosophical and legal perspective. It's also an attempt to "enjoy the show" today, in the face of a staggering onslaught of propaganda and stupidity in the media here at the moment. I can't fight those idiots, so what else is there to do? Let's have some fun!
The whole idea that a human being has absolute worth and dignity has of course a long religious tradition, but in the modern world it goes back to the Western philosophical canon. Ethics, as thought of by the liberal thinkers but also in the continental tradition (Kant etc.), has its starting point in the individual. Each human being has free will, and therefore a potential that he or she can manifest in the world. The potential to understand, to act based on understanding, to manifest the good. He also can go wrong of course, but since he has free will, and therefore can change for the better, and it's not always easy to say what's wrong anyway, we ascribe to human beings a non-negotiable value. Because that's the whole point of existence: using our free will to develop our potential (or not). We are subjects. Without free will, and the possibility to express it, we are "meat sacks" - pointless existences that can be violated at will because we don't have intrinsic value. We are just objects of political programs and other interests. This means that freedom is directly related to human dignity, which is the foundation of human rights and basically all rights granted to us in Western constitutions. Without these concepts, everything falls apart.
Let's take the German constitution as an example, but I'm sure you can make similar arguments with other constitutions. (You can find an english version here.)
Because of the philosophical background I just gave, the first article in our constitution is not the "right to live" or something like that, but reads:
It's the first article, and it has the strongest wording of all: "untouchable". Not only that, legally, this article is entirely without limitations! In the law, it trumps everything, without exception. It is also unchangeable - not even by parliament with an unanimous vote. It is valid "forever" (article 79). This is a result of the Weimar Republic experience, but it also directly follows from the philosophical background.
Now let's look at article 2 GG:
Notice that section (1) emphasizes, again, freedom - as an expression of human dignity (article 1), congruent with the philosophical background. The whole article is under the banner of "personal freedoms". And only THEN, in section 2, comes the "right to live", which by the way is primarily intended as a right against the state, and also an obligation of the state to protect this right against "third parties" (i.e. persecution of criminals), according to legal commentary. But as if the authors knew that the "right to live" can be abused for all kinds of things (see Corona nonsense), they AGAIN, in the same breath, emphasize freedom: "Freedom of the person shall be inviolable". Wise men, these, I'd say. Of course, there can and must be legal limitations here, but I think the spirit of the law is crystal-clear.
All of this means, of course, that in no frigging way can the "right to live" be considered absolute. "Every life counts!" is a ridiculous argument. No: every human's dignity counts. An "administrated meat sack" has no dignity and therefore no rights, not even the right to live, so without dignity - nothing. That is to say, preventing death is NOT and can never be the most important objective of the state. Dignity and freedom, which are inseparable, are dangerous and can kill people - in fact do kill people every day. For example in an act of self-sacrifice, stupidity, or carelessness, or just as a result of voluntarily exposing yourself to danger, which of course you do every day. But legally, you can NEVER have the "right to live" trump human dignity.
This is the reason why torture is strictly illegal. If you torture people to "save lives", you destroy the very reason why people should be saved in the first place! No point saving anybody if you don't assume every human to have human dignity. If you violate human dignity - you give up all justifications to act in the name of good. That's what our philosophical tradition tells us, and that's what's in the law.
That's also why we don't strap old people to their beds "for their own safety", but on the contrary encourage them to be as active as possible, even if that greatly enhances their chance of dying, such as from falling, catching the flu or whatever.
Now, what is human dignity legally? The German Constitutional Court has come up with the "object formula" in a verdict from 2006 concerning the idea to shoot down passenger planes if they are hijacked by terrorists:
Again, this "subject vs. object" distinction goes right back to the philosophical tradition, even to Plato I believe. Now, in the case of the Corona measures, even though the state didn't directly advocate killing people to save people, what are we to make of reducing all people, including healthy ones, to mere "virus spreaders"? What are we to make of locking elderly people away in their care homes? What about forbidding attending funerals? Isn't all that turning people into objects and depriving them of their dignity in the name of some policy goal?
I'm not a lawyer and don't know how public law and all that works precisely. But I can't see how the constitutional court could come to any other conclusion than ruling most of these "lockdown" measures unconstitutional. In a sane world, they would give politics hell. But we don't live in a sane world anymore...
I think their tactic will be a combination of:
The whole idea that a human being has absolute worth and dignity has of course a long religious tradition, but in the modern world it goes back to the Western philosophical canon. Ethics, as thought of by the liberal thinkers but also in the continental tradition (Kant etc.), has its starting point in the individual. Each human being has free will, and therefore a potential that he or she can manifest in the world. The potential to understand, to act based on understanding, to manifest the good. He also can go wrong of course, but since he has free will, and therefore can change for the better, and it's not always easy to say what's wrong anyway, we ascribe to human beings a non-negotiable value. Because that's the whole point of existence: using our free will to develop our potential (or not). We are subjects. Without free will, and the possibility to express it, we are "meat sacks" - pointless existences that can be violated at will because we don't have intrinsic value. We are just objects of political programs and other interests. This means that freedom is directly related to human dignity, which is the foundation of human rights and basically all rights granted to us in Western constitutions. Without these concepts, everything falls apart.
Let's take the German constitution as an example, but I'm sure you can make similar arguments with other constitutions. (You can find an english version here.)
Because of the philosophical background I just gave, the first article in our constitution is not the "right to live" or something like that, but reads:
It's the first article, and it has the strongest wording of all: "untouchable". Not only that, legally, this article is entirely without limitations! In the law, it trumps everything, without exception. It is also unchangeable - not even by parliament with an unanimous vote. It is valid "forever" (article 79). This is a result of the Weimar Republic experience, but it also directly follows from the philosophical background.
Now let's look at article 2 GG:
Notice that section (1) emphasizes, again, freedom - as an expression of human dignity (article 1), congruent with the philosophical background. The whole article is under the banner of "personal freedoms". And only THEN, in section 2, comes the "right to live", which by the way is primarily intended as a right against the state, and also an obligation of the state to protect this right against "third parties" (i.e. persecution of criminals), according to legal commentary. But as if the authors knew that the "right to live" can be abused for all kinds of things (see Corona nonsense), they AGAIN, in the same breath, emphasize freedom: "Freedom of the person shall be inviolable". Wise men, these, I'd say. Of course, there can and must be legal limitations here, but I think the spirit of the law is crystal-clear.
All of this means, of course, that in no frigging way can the "right to live" be considered absolute. "Every life counts!" is a ridiculous argument. No: every human's dignity counts. An "administrated meat sack" has no dignity and therefore no rights, not even the right to live, so without dignity - nothing. That is to say, preventing death is NOT and can never be the most important objective of the state. Dignity and freedom, which are inseparable, are dangerous and can kill people - in fact do kill people every day. For example in an act of self-sacrifice, stupidity, or carelessness, or just as a result of voluntarily exposing yourself to danger, which of course you do every day. But legally, you can NEVER have the "right to live" trump human dignity.
This is the reason why torture is strictly illegal. If you torture people to "save lives", you destroy the very reason why people should be saved in the first place! No point saving anybody if you don't assume every human to have human dignity. If you violate human dignity - you give up all justifications to act in the name of good. That's what our philosophical tradition tells us, and that's what's in the law.
That's also why we don't strap old people to their beds "for their own safety", but on the contrary encourage them to be as active as possible, even if that greatly enhances their chance of dying, such as from falling, catching the flu or whatever.
Now, what is human dignity legally? The German Constitutional Court has come up with the "object formula" in a verdict from 2006 concerning the idea to shoot down passenger planes if they are hijacked by terrorists:
Again, this "subject vs. object" distinction goes right back to the philosophical tradition, even to Plato I believe. Now, in the case of the Corona measures, even though the state didn't directly advocate killing people to save people, what are we to make of reducing all people, including healthy ones, to mere "virus spreaders"? What are we to make of locking elderly people away in their care homes? What about forbidding attending funerals? Isn't all that turning people into objects and depriving them of their dignity in the name of some policy goal?
I'm not a lawyer and don't know how public law and all that works precisely. But I can't see how the constitutional court could come to any other conclusion than ruling most of these "lockdown" measures unconstitutional. In a sane world, they would give politics hell. But we don't live in a sane world anymore...
I think their tactic will be a combination of:
- trying to avoid any court case that directly deals with the justification of the measures, i.e. the real danger of the disease. They would be ripped to shreds if it came to that.
- declaring that article 1 (human dignity) is not applicable here and/or is not violated, focussing on the "lesser" freedom clauses that are subject to limitations, i.e. limited by the law for disease control in this case
- coming up with some "balanced" ruling that will say "okay, this or that aspect of the lockdown was unconstitutional", and the politicians going "oh, maybe we went a little bit too far here and there", before announcing the next nonsense.
- using legal tricks to make the court cases about very specific, limited aspects of the measures rather than the whole thing or the very legality of the procedures that "allowed" the state to "temporarily" suspend half of the articles of our constitution in the first place.
- an onslaught of propaganda around the court cases that will threaten the judges
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Speaking of law and courts (calling on U.S. peeps here), had a listen to this David E. Martin (Charlottesville?) video - Butterfly of the Week, 27 April 2020: Under House Arrest as a Result of a Crime Committed by the CDC
This David Martin seems, and do not know and cannot vouch for him, to be a legal lawyer, and reads from the Constitution (re violation), the Clayton Act (violation), the Sherman Act (violation), US Patriot Act section 802 (violation - terrorism) against the CDC and others who worked and funded from individual dual roles (violating the Sherman Act), while citing a Supreme Court ruling against the CDC back in 2013 as their actions were deemed illegal. Basically, it sounds like in 2003 they (CDC) took out a patent on the SARS-Covid virus and the test kits, and were later taken to task on the presumption that you cannot patent what they did - the CDC ignored it and used rights to hide the tests right up to a certain recent date. Although Martin brings up the Lab in China (knowing the CDC was funding it - another problem of law), he equally brings up Fort Detrick - Gates, Fauci et al. come into the picture - Attorney General William Barr's memo is offered:
Here are his points from arguments pdf:
His sources and footnotes say:
edit: correct name.
This David Martin seems, and do not know and cannot vouch for him, to be a legal lawyer, and reads from the Constitution (re violation), the Clayton Act (violation), the Sherman Act (violation), US Patriot Act section 802 (violation - terrorism) against the CDC and others who worked and funded from individual dual roles (violating the Sherman Act), while citing a Supreme Court ruling against the CDC back in 2013 as their actions were deemed illegal. Basically, it sounds like in 2003 they (CDC) took out a patent on the SARS-Covid virus and the test kits, and were later taken to task on the presumption that you cannot patent what they did - the CDC ignored it and used rights to hide the tests right up to a certain recent date. Although Martin brings up the Lab in China (knowing the CDC was funding it - another problem of law), he equally brings up Fort Detrick - Gates, Fauci et al. come into the picture - Attorney General William Barr's memo is offered:
Here are his points from arguments pdf:
His sources and footnotes say:
edit: correct name.
Ina
The Living Force
Great point of discussion and object of study, towards knowing your individual rights. Below I attach Chapter 11 about Constitutional Limitations, the Rights and their Limits and Chapter 18, Emergency Powers, published by the International Institute for Democracy and Electoral Assistance, IDEA.
https://www.idea.int/sites/default/files/publications/limitation-clauses-primer.pdf
https://www.idea.int/sites/default/files/publications/emergency-powers-primer.pdf
These are only starting points as each country has different constitutions.
