Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[SOTTREADER]

Guys, if you listen to this, he says there's some sort of drug in development that should be out by the fall.... He's not referring to a vaccine, some sort of other drug.

This guy has the inside track so I won't be surprised if it turns out to be true.

 

[loreta]

Guys, if you listen to this, he says there's some sort of drug in development that should be out by the fall.... He's not referring to a vaccine, some sort of other drug.

This guy has the inside track so I won't be surprised if it turns out to be true.

So now more and more we are seeing their objectives. Very interesting. they don't want to stop the virus but to vaccinated. Very interesting. As with the 9/11 "specialists" of the subject talk on tv. They seem serious with their tie and their language but they are BS. And they are on TV so they are in the "devil box".

 

[loreta]

Yesterday I talked with my sister in law that lives in Quebec that works with a Chinese and their parents are there. She asked her how things were in China? The woman was very happy. She said that everyone has a mobile phone and are all connected with the government. If you go to a store you need your mobile and they also take your temperature. Also the government or whatever they control the people know where you have been and if you have temperature they can check people who was with you, etc. The Chinese woman was extremely happy. That's what my sister in law told me.

 

[thorbiorn]

China has implemented a new law on the use of the Internet 网络信息内容生态治理规定-中共中央网络安全和信息化委员会办公室 from the Cyberspace Administration of China, Office of the Central Cyberspace Affairs Commission. For a translation see New Chinese internet regulations 3/1/2020 - Pastebin.com

Some details follow below, but the way I interpret and with the laws on punishments in mind, it could mean, that if I was in China and suggested, as done in the Youtube from The HighWire with Del Bigtree posted by Ruth and reposted several times in the last few pages, that a vaccine could be partly responsible for the unusual way some people have just collapsed, then that may conflict with what was desirable from an official point of view. If I further shared a wondering whether the use of vaccines in China could be facilitated by corruption in pharmaceutical companies and public administration, as we already see in the other places, then it would be even worse. If accused and sentenced, I would face punishment ranging from public shaming, surveillance 24/7, detention for a shorter period, or some serious prison time.

Still, when one reads the programs of the Chinese Communist Party, then one finds elements of a rational ideology, so even if China is having its issues now, if it learns from the mistakes, it will have a winning strategy, because in the rest of the world, it seems a general recognition of the dangers of vaccines is a change of policy that belongs to the future.

Here are a few points from what the new law:

Regulations on the Ecological Governance of Network Information Content
Tuesday, December 20, 2019 2:00 PM
Source: China Netcom

National Internet Information Office Order
Number 5
The Regulations on The Ecological Governance of Network Information Content have been approved by the Office of the State Internet Information Office and are hereby promulgated, effective From March 1, 2020.
[...]
Article 4 Producers of information content on the Internet shall abide by laws and regulations, abide by public order and customs, and shall not harm the national interest, the public interest or the legitimate rights and interests of others.
　　 Article 5 Encourage producers of online information content to produce, reproduce and publish information containing the following contents:
(1) To publicize Xi Jinping's thought of socialism with Chinese characteristics in the new era and to interpret the socialist road, theory, system and culture with Chinese characteristics in a comprehensive, accurate and vivid way;
(2) To publicize the Party's theoretical line and policy and the central government's major decision-making and deployment;
(3) To display the bright spots of economic and social development and reflect the great struggle and fiery life of the people;
(4) to carry forward the core values of socialism, publicize excellent moral culture and the spirit of the times, and fully display the spirit of the Chinese nation' high-spirited;
(5) Effectively responding to social concerns, solving doubts and confusing, and analyzing the situation, which will help guide the masses to form a consensus;
(vi) to help improve the international influence of Chinese culture and show the world a truly three-dimensional and comprehensive China;
(7) Other contents that speak the style of responsibility, praise the true goodness and beauty, promote unity and stability, etc.
　　 Article 6 Producers of online information content may not produce, copy or publish illegal information containing the following contents:
(i) opposing the basic principles set out in the Constitution;
(2) endangering national security, disclosing state secrets, subverting state power and undermining national unity;
(3) to damage the honour and interests of the state;
[...]
(8) spreading rumors and disturbing the economic and social order;

[...]

1. Article 7 Producers of online information content shall take measures to prevent and resist the production, reproduction and publication of undesirable information containing the following contents:
2. (1) the use of exaggerated titles, the content of which is seriously inconsistent with the title;
3. (2) speculation, scandals, bad deeds, etc.;
4. (3) miscommenting natural disasters, major accidents and other disasters;
5. (4) with sexual innuendo, sexual prositist, etc. which is easy to make people have sexual association;
6. (5) showing blood, horror, cruelty, etc. that cause physical and mental discomfort;
7. (6) Inciting discrimination by the population, regional discrimination, etc.;
8. (7) to promote vulgar, vulgar and vulgar content;
9. (8) May cause minors to imitate unsafe behavior and violate social morality, induce minors bad habits, etc.
10. (9) Other content that has a negative impact on the network ecology.
11. Chapter Three Network Information Content Service Platform

If something is not official even if it is true, then it could run the risk of being classified as

(2) speculation, scandals, bad deeds, etc.;
(3) miscommenting natural disasters, major accidents and other disasters;

 

[liam1310]

School not to far from me is closed for two weeks since yesterday. Student who was in North Italy has the virus, apparently the school was on a ski trip , cant verify this yet. Media just says he was on a trip to the effected area in Italy. The past few weeks MM are saying its only a matter of time before its here, now its here they say expect more cases and advise to get the flu shot.

 

[Ruth]

Still, when one reads the programs of the Chinese Communist Party, then one finds elements of a rational ideology, so even if China is having its issues now, if it learns from the mistakes, it will have a winning strategy, because in the rest of the world, it seems a general recognition of the dangers of vaccines is a change of policy that belongs to the future.

In 2019, China introduced mandatory vaccines for adults - something which the US (and the rest of the world) are probably going to attempt to do in 2020. It also explains why the CDC and the WHO have been so 'soft' in their criticism of China and so reluctant to declare a pandemic. Any public health failure due to a vaccine program is diametrically apposed to their agenda of forcing vaccine programs on everyone.

People tend to forget that China is a world leader when it comes to coersion and forcing conformity amongst it's people, even though it's under the auspices of: "for their own good". This law took effect on December 1st, 2019. Interesting timing, isn't it?

China: Vaccine Law Passed | Global Legal Monitor

Dr James Lyons-Weiler is hypothesizing that this may effect susceptibility.

In a worse case scenario he says China may have ignored animal studies on the dangers of coronavirus vaccination and done it covertly. In addition, he says vaccination with an aluminium adjuvant and previous exposure to a Coronavirus (for example MERS) may also increase susceptibility. That's why you have some people dropping dead in the streets, possibly due to what's known as a "cytokine storm". This article is well worth a look.

More on the ACE2-Related Asian COVID-19 Susceptibility Hypothesis

James Lyons-Weiler, PhD – 2/16/2020 SCIENCE IS FOR ASKING QUESTIONS. When people started posting online the idea that “Asians”, especially male “Asians”, and perhaps p…

jameslyonsweiler.com

 

[Ina]

A common denominator in the rapid spread of the virus in China could be the money in the form of cash. I don’t know the chinese cultural habits with regard to cash, but the infection stats could be related also to behavior vis-a-vis cash use.

 

[liam1310]

"For children already enrolled in schools, proof of vaccination will have to be presented by July 2021, while parents who refuse to vaccinate their children will face fines of up to €2,500 ($2,760)"

"The law was initially passed as a set of amendments to the already-existing Protection Against Infection Act — a law which is also being used to mobilize Germany's management of the coronavirus, or COVID-19, outbreak"

Law mandating vaccines in German schools takes effect – DW – 03/01/2020

Measles vaccinations in Germany are now required to register in schools. Parents can be fined thousands of euros if they violate the law.

www.dw.com

Haven't listened to Icke for many years, came upon this were he talks about a simulation that took place in Wuhan 6 weeks before reports came out of China the simulation was about a pandemic caused by corona virus to gauge the reaction and response, it all boils down to mandatory vaccination, information control, censorship and target anti vaxxers. Starts at 15 min in

 

[Mari]

Regarding Germany, I think it's pretty much a nailed on certainty now.

I live in Bonn and you can feel the panic in supermarkets and in the street.

One school in Bonn is from Saturday closed because one employee was tested positive.

Coronavirus in Bonn: Sieben weitere Verdachtsfälle in Bonn werden geprüft

Alle 219 Abstriche, die von Schülern, Lehrkräften und Mitarbeitenden der Clemens-August-Schule genommen wurden, haben ein negatives Testergebnis. Am Montag wurden dem Gesundheitsamt der Stadt Bonn sieben weitere Verdachtsfälle gemeldet.

www.general-anzeiger-bonn.de

There is the first case of corona virus in Bonn. It is an employee of the OGS (Offene Ganztagsschule) at the Clemens August School in Poppelsdorf. The city of Bonn announced this on Saturday morning. There are also two other suspected cases in Bonn.

The Clemens August School will be closed for two weeks after the positive test, as school head Carolin Krause announced at a press conference on Saturday morning. 185 children and the teaching staff have to stay at home, they are tested for the virus. That said the head of the Bonn health department, Ingrid Heyer, on Saturday.

The 23-year-old OGS employee shows only slight symptoms and is in quarantine at home, said the medical director of the Bonn University Hospital, Wolfgang Holzgreve. The young man had celebrated Carnival in the Heinsberg district - where he comes from, according to unconfirmed GA information - and then returned to Bonn on Ash Wednesday, where he worked at the OGS, Heyer described.

And while here panic is rising, apparently China closes their ‘pop-up’ coronavirus hospital, built in 10 days, after last group of recovered patients are discharged.

China closes 1st ‘pop-up’ coronavirus hospital, built in 10 days, after last group of recovered patients discharged

Authorities in Wuhan have closed the city’s first makeshift hospital after discharging the last batch of 34 recovered coronavirus patients, as the rate of infection in the city has dropped dramatically.

www.rt.com

 

[Laura]

And while here panic is rising, apparently China closes their ‘pop-up’ coronavirus hospital, built in 10 days, after last group of recovered patients are discharged.

China closes 1st ‘pop-up’ coronavirus hospital, built in 10 days, after last group of recovered patients discharged

Authorities in Wuhan have closed the city’s first makeshift hospital after discharging the last batch of 34 recovered coronavirus patients, as the rate of infection in the city has dropped dramatically.

www.rt.com

So, it looks like the big fizzle is already starting.

The article about the closing of the hospital says:

In China alone, the total number of officially reported Covid-19 infections stands at 80,026 with the death toll reaching 2,912 as of Sunday evening.

Note that is "officially reported." The more likely number of actual infections is probably 5 times that many, or something like 500K.

 

[bianca etezete]

I live in Germany (near Munich) and here the situation is at least odd. While in the surrounding villages certain goods are completely sold out (desinfection spray, toilet paper, rubber gloves etc) here in the center of my city there are no gaps at all in the supermarket shelves.

And with the news of the chinese already closing their first pop up clinic... I do not understand why they would do that IF it is right that peeps can get the virus several times (was on the news in the last days).

I got my stocks up, water and food, have a litre of CDS at home, colloidial silver as well and several other meds. I do not feel to be in particular danger...

 

[loreta]

So, it looks like the big fizzle is already starting.

The article about the closing of the hospital says:



Note that is "officially reported." The more likely number of actual infections is probably 5 times that many, or something like 500K.

I think what they want to do, WHO and the others, it is to follow what the Chinese did in their country: quarantaine, drastically. This beginning of the week the information of victims and sick people of Corona is everywhere, like a huge wave, like a tsunami. Maybe I am paranoica, but they want to put the best as fast as possible. The best for them, evidently.

 

[neema]

wow, vaccine dictatorship!

Some details about 5G/Vaccine connection from the video I posted earlier in this thread:

Fixed Wireless Communications at 60GHz Unique Oxygen Absorption Properties

...Figure 1 illustrates the atmospheric absorption for millimeter wave frequencies.At the millimeter wave frequency of 60GHz, the absorption is very high, with 98 percent of the transmitted energy absorbed by atmospheric oxygen. While oxygen absorption at 60GHz severely limits range, it also eliminates interference between same frequency terminals.

So what are the effects of this tech on the hemoglobin and its oxygen-transport capabilities?


and in this study they state:

Exposure to a 50 Hz electromagnetic field induces activation of the Epstein-Barr virus genome in latently infected human lymphoid cells.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't vaccines full of non-activated virus DNA/RNA?

And then there is this:

2019 was the breakthrough year in Europe for 60 GHz unlicensed 5G.
To put this in perspective, in 2008 the Swedish Post- och telestyrelsen (PTS) held an auction for LTE (4G) spectrum in the 2.6 GHz band and a total of 2×70 MHz for FDD and 50 MHz for TDD was allocated, i.e. 190 MHz (equal to 0.19 GHz) or ~70 times less than what has now be allocated for free in 57-71 GHz. In 2008 the Swedish operators paid 226 million Euro for 70x less bandwidth than what is now available for free!!! Disruptive? Yes, that is the least you can say.

"has now be allocated for free" Reminds of what you say all the time Laura. There is no free lunch.

This might be old news to you all but its all new to me.
FWIW.

 

[liam1310]

My partner just in from work, she works in an entertainment centre around the corner. Parties were cancelled today because of the virus, rumours are spreading like wild fire, the kid who was diagnosed yesterday people are saying was in contact with someone who was at a party in the centre were my partner works, now people are staying away it's all over social media.

Burger king closed all of its businesses today out of respect due to the founder passing away, people without reading the notice thought it was over the virus.

Same thing in another centre people staying away due to corona fears, all down to people spreading rumours.

This is only the 2nd case in the country and people are starting to lose there minds, the other was in northern Ireland. Panic and fear is spreading fast.

 

[Andrian]

@Andrian are you okay? How are you? It has been a number of days since you said anything.

Sorry for not getting back lately, I was working and was a little bit busy. So at the moment the situation in northern Italy is thus, the schools and the universities in most infected regions of the country will remain closed until 9th March. As far as i know at least in Torino the museums, the public events will be suspended for another week, in the meantime the hospitality sector suffers greatly from all these restrictions. According to some italian authorities the italian economy may suffer losses between € 9 billions and 27 billions because of the coronavirus outbreak. I can attest that the financial losses are pretty big indeed, the last couple of days at work our job consisted in answering to the phone calls and writing e-mails to the guests that were asking to cancel their reservations due to coronavirus. The american guests are pretty concerned about the issue since the CDC raised the alert level concerning Italy to 3, so the guests obviously are cancelling their reservations for the next couple of months because of fear and because they discouraged by the US government to travel to Italy. Our managers, in order to spare some money and not be forced to close down the hotel have decided to organize daily working shifts of 12 hours instead of 8 hours at least for a week or two. If the situation won't change in the meantime i'm afraid that some hotels (including ours) in the infected areas may be forced to close down for an unknown period of time. Me and my colleagues at work are pretty calm and don't allow ourselves to fall in the hysteria trap, actually we are a little bit more worried for not loosing our jobs, though i do hope that once the schools, universities, museums, public events will be allowed to operate as before the situation will start to get back to normal. The people here are calm as well, don't see any panic around me though you can almost feel the tense in the air, people are worried that's true. Will provide some feedback in the next couple of days.