I agree. I've already put it on FB and twitter.
Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?
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I agree. I've already put it on FB and twitter.
She looks very interesting. I look her page on fb. But this video in particular I did not find it. Do you have a link?10 pages late, but just wanted to put here this video for italian members. It's an italian doctor Silvana de Mari who speaks about the harm of wearing masks, the role of virus and why not to be scared by them, the importance of the immune system,etc. things we already know, but could be shared for italian people
What is more is that I had it in my FB from my sister who had completely bought into the narrative last two months
Persephone
Jedi Master
Hi loreta, yes there are interesting things she says in her FB page, event if I haven't watched much of her videos yet. She posted the video above on May the 11th in her fb.
psychegram
The Living Force
William Briggs runs the numbers and comes to the conclusion that up to 19% of the US population has been infected with coronavirus; within spitting distance of the C's number of 24%.
He also points out, quite correctly, that this large pool of undetected cases gives the pathocrats an easy way to keep the fear porn going. By increasing testing, more cases will be found, which can then be used to argue that infections are rising, and therefore the lockdown needs to continue.
Here’s How They Can Push “New Cases” To Keep Panic Going
He also points out, quite correctly, that this large pool of undetected cases gives the pathocrats an easy way to keep the fear porn going. By increasing testing, more cases will be found, which can then be used to argue that infections are rising, and therefore the lockdown needs to continue.
Here’s How They Can Push “New Cases” To Keep Panic Going
Goemon_
The Living Force
Edouard Phillipe, the French prime minister has just spoken.
The leach will get longer starting on June the 2th:
No more 100km distance limite.
Cafés and restaurants will reopen.
Beaches and the like will be all open, with mask being obligatory.
Places with a lot of people like night clubs will have to wait but lots of event with a lot of people will be allowed. On the public space the rule of 10 people gathering stays in place.
That's the part I remember.
My internet connection didn't allowed me to watch the questions/answer part.
I am wondering if we will be allowed to go to Andorra. I will have to do some research.
Reopening of the borders within the EU will follow on a later date. Cinemas on the 22th of June I think.
The leach will get longer starting on June the 2th:
No more 100km distance limite.
Cafés and restaurants will reopen.
Beaches and the like will be all open, with mask being obligatory.
Places with a lot of people like night clubs will have to wait but lots of event with a lot of people will be allowed. On the public space the rule of 10 people gathering stays in place.
That's the part I remember.
My internet connection didn't allowed me to watch the questions/answer part.
I am wondering if we will be allowed to go to Andorra. I will have to do some research.
Reopening of the borders within the EU will follow on a later date. Cinemas on the 22th of June I think.
psychegram
The Living Force
Sorry but I've gotta vent.
Just came across this story, that Germany is banning choirs because it spreads the nothingburger. Chalk one up for destroying everything beautiful and good in the world on the altar of this godforsaken hoax.
Shared the story with a friend. Despite everything, he's still buying into it. Antisocially distancing, wearing a mask, the whole bit. Believes wholeheartedly that the threat is real and the measures justified. Now, this friend has been singing in a choir since he was a kid. It's one of the things he loves most in life, and he's got a genuinely beautiful voice. I thought, well if anything will snap him out of it, get him to - at least for a moment! - get at least a little bit angry, declare it an outrage, just ... react! This might be it.
Wishful thinking on my part. His reaction: "Yeah, it's a shame, but choral singing is one of the best ways to transmit the virus."
This guy isn't stupid, by a long shot. But I guess it's just one more confirmation that the ability to see the truth has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. Personality is everything. And he's been fully hypnotized.
So. Worth keeping in mind. There are many out there who are lost, and there's nothing that can be done to shake them from their slumber.
Germany clamps down on SINGING over coronavirus fears
Just came across this story, that Germany is banning choirs because it spreads the nothingburger. Chalk one up for destroying everything beautiful and good in the world on the altar of this godforsaken hoax.
Shared the story with a friend. Despite everything, he's still buying into it. Antisocially distancing, wearing a mask, the whole bit. Believes wholeheartedly that the threat is real and the measures justified. Now, this friend has been singing in a choir since he was a kid. It's one of the things he loves most in life, and he's got a genuinely beautiful voice. I thought, well if anything will snap him out of it, get him to - at least for a moment! - get at least a little bit angry, declare it an outrage, just ... react! This might be it.
Wishful thinking on my part. His reaction: "Yeah, it's a shame, but choral singing is one of the best ways to transmit the virus."
This guy isn't stupid, by a long shot. But I guess it's just one more confirmation that the ability to see the truth has absolutely nothing to do with intelligence. Personality is everything. And he's been fully hypnotized.
So. Worth keeping in mind. There are many out there who are lost, and there's nothing that can be done to shake them from their slumber.
Germany clamps down on SINGING over coronavirus fears
Yep, it makes sense to me, i remember some time ago, a month ago maybe, Niall has mentioned one of the probable factors that may have contributed to the high number of deaths in Northern Italy was the vaccine against meningitis being supplied, for free for over 65 year old italians back in January when a small outbreak of meningitis took place. When Niall mentioned this interesting aspect, after doing some digging on the vaccine program in Italy, i had found out that for example last year back in November the Lombardy region bought hundreds of thousands of flu shots that was planning to use for the upcoming flu season, giving the flu shots for free to the over 65 year old citizens.
An interesting thing i've noticed on the italian FB is that there are people who also are connecting the flu vaccines and the meningitis vaccines to the high numbers of deaths in northern Italy. And i must say that many are pissed on the government because of the fact that it keeps pushing the vaccine dogma (not talking about how irresponsibly they've handled the whole situation bringing the economy to her knees), repeating every day that the emergency status, the masks and other draconian measures won't be lifted until a vaccine won't be available. Which is a lot of arrogance and hubris on their part, they are completely detached from the normal folks and can't grasp that if they'll push too hard it won't break the peoples backs but instead it may get them really mad forcing them to take the pitchforks and the torches. Throw in there the weather going crazier by each passing day, some cosmic phenomena and you have a perfect sh*t storm for the psychopaths.
No anticipation of course, though in some places this scenario begins to play out to some extent, Minneapolis may be just a taste of what may come in the near future Deadly shooting near George Floyd protest as looting, arson grip Minneapolis
psychegram
The Living Force
I found this meditation on the cultural impact, long term, of the plandemic to be rather interesting. It's through the lens of the cultural phenomenon of a Twitter personality who goes by Bronze Age Pervert, who's amassed a considerable following amongst young, right-wing men.
Coronavirus Boosts the Bronze Age Mindset - American Greatness
Coronavirus Boosts the Bronze Age Mindset - American Greatness
Nucifera
Dagobah Resident
There are some folks down the street from me that bang on pots each evening at 7:00 PM. While it has not caught on, they've been doing it for weeks. Most of the folks in my neighborhood don't wear masks. Still I see some wearing their muzzles when outdoors alone or even exercising. The strangest is that some wear their anti-respiratory face covers when alone in their cars with the windows up, perhaps in training for a Darwin award. [Portland, Oregon here.]
This choral should meet in a park and sing 2 meters of distance each singer. Sing to the trees and the birds. But sing! A park, a forest is a church. Sing to the sky and the air! What a non-sense. Even in concentration camps people were able to sing! Before hand they will tell us not to play music, not to read because books can have covid, not to breath not to walk not to go to the washrooms. Nuts nuts nuts!
Talking about intelligence versus truth: a good friend of mine is very intelligent, he is a doctor of computing and teach in a Spanish University but he is also a moron. I love him very much but he is still a moron because he believes 150% what the medias are saying and hope we will be vaccinated all of us! And he hope it will be mandatory! Because I love him as a friend I just keep silent and listen to his non-sense and decided not to argue with him, I have too many books to read instead of arguing to an intelligent-moron friend. There is nothing you can do with that.
My sister is also intelligent but far away for discerning the truth, truth is not important for her, she is too intelligent. So she wrote to me the other day: dear Loreta I hope you are ok, I think about you but I will not call you nor talk to you because we are not having the same ideas about this corona. Bye.
Oh well.
Cordillera
Padawan Learner
It seems that today is the day to let off steam.
I have published few things on Facebook, so as not to overwhelm with so much information that contradicts the official version. I thought that in this way I could reduce the cognitive dissonance of the people who read me. Very few times I have gone to comment on the posts of friends and family, to give them a different point of view. At best, they don't answer me. Others have told me that it only remains for me to believe that the earth is flat. And another told me that he did not admit my doubt about the pandemic, because his mother nurse was fighting a pandemic and that is all the evidence he needs. Today a person commented in the family WhatsApp group that my country had more infections than China and that a municipality was buying graves for the poor dead by Covid-19. I told him that he cannot stay with the headline of the news and it was necessary to look for explanations so that a small country has more infections than China (I gave several possible reasons). My brother commented that it is stressful that I gave so many cross hypotheses, that sharing statistical interpretations with everyone is stressful, that it was a fact that in France quarantine had managed to lower infections and that theories must be discussed among specialists, because between ordinary citizens is exhausting. Well, I replied that his stress was due to cognitive dissonance and I stated that what is at stake in humanity today is our consciousness and not the extermination of our lives. He replied that it was I who had cognitive dissonance, that I seek information to confirm my point of view, that I flood with information, that the theory of mass manipulation by the elite media is questioned as incomplete and that people she is not stupid if she knows how to consume media.
By the way, today I received a water service technician without a mask, so my girlfriend told me that I put her at risk, that the pandemic is a reality since there are people in our environment who are infected, who only think of me , that I am a hippie and that I had to follow his point of view or I had to leave the house.
So I wonder if I'm doing the right thing, if I'm wrong, if I'm denying the facts, if I'm just looking for information that confirms my point of view, if I'm being selfish, if in fact all my friends and family are right and me wrong.
I only have one comforting thought: I'd rather have doubts than certainties.
I have published few things on Facebook, so as not to overwhelm with so much information that contradicts the official version. I thought that in this way I could reduce the cognitive dissonance of the people who read me. Very few times I have gone to comment on the posts of friends and family, to give them a different point of view. At best, they don't answer me. Others have told me that it only remains for me to believe that the earth is flat. And another told me that he did not admit my doubt about the pandemic, because his mother nurse was fighting a pandemic and that is all the evidence he needs. Today a person commented in the family WhatsApp group that my country had more infections than China and that a municipality was buying graves for the poor dead by Covid-19. I told him that he cannot stay with the headline of the news and it was necessary to look for explanations so that a small country has more infections than China (I gave several possible reasons). My brother commented that it is stressful that I gave so many cross hypotheses, that sharing statistical interpretations with everyone is stressful, that it was a fact that in France quarantine had managed to lower infections and that theories must be discussed among specialists, because between ordinary citizens is exhausting. Well, I replied that his stress was due to cognitive dissonance and I stated that what is at stake in humanity today is our consciousness and not the extermination of our lives. He replied that it was I who had cognitive dissonance, that I seek information to confirm my point of view, that I flood with information, that the theory of mass manipulation by the elite media is questioned as incomplete and that people she is not stupid if she knows how to consume media.
By the way, today I received a water service technician without a mask, so my girlfriend told me that I put her at risk, that the pandemic is a reality since there are people in our environment who are infected, who only think of me , that I am a hippie and that I had to follow his point of view or I had to leave the house.
So I wonder if I'm doing the right thing, if I'm wrong, if I'm denying the facts, if I'm just looking for information that confirms my point of view, if I'm being selfish, if in fact all my friends and family are right and me wrong.
I only have one comforting thought: I'd rather have doubts than certainties.
Parece que hoy es el día para desahogarse.
Yo he publicado pocas cosas en Facebook, para no abrumar con tanta información que contradice la versión oficial. Pensé que de esa forma podía aminorar la disonancia cognitiva de las personas que me leen. Muy pocas veces he ido a comentar los post de amigos y familiares, para darles un punto de vista distinto. En el mejor de los casos, no me contestan. Otros me han dicho que solo falta que crea que la tierra es plana. Y otro me dijo que no admitía mi duda sobre la pandemia, porque su mamá enfermera estaba peleando contra una pandemia y esa es toda la evidencia que necesita. Hoy una persona comentaba en el grupo de Whatsapp familiar, que mi país tenía más contagiados que China y que un municipio estaba comprado tumbas para los muertos pobres por Covid-19. Le dije que no se puede quedar con el titular de la noticia y habia que buscar explicaciones para que un país pequeño tenga más contagiados que China (di varias posibles razones). Mi hermano comentó que es estresante que yo diera tanta hipótesis cruzada, que compartir interpretaciones estadísticas con todo el mundo es estresante, que era un hecho que en Francia la cuarentena había logrado bajar los contagios y que las teorías se deben discutir entre especialistas, porque entre ciudadanos de a pie es agotador. Bueno, contesté que su estrés se debía a la disonancia cognitiva y exptesé que lo que está en juego hoy en la humanidad es nuestra consciencia y no el exterminio de nuestras vidas. Me contestó que era yo el que tenía disonacia cognitiva, que busco información para confirmar mi punto de vista, que inundo de información, que la teoría de la manipulación de masas por parte de los medios de la élite está cuestionada por incompleta y que la gente no es tonta si sabe consumir medios.
De paso, hoy recibí sin mascarilla a un técnico del servicio de agua, por lo que mi novia me dijo que la ponía en riesgo, que la pandemia es una realidad ya que hay personas de nuestro entorno que están contagiadas, que sólo pienso en mí, que yo soy un hippie y que tenía que seguir su punto de vista o me tenia que ir de la casa.
Entonces me pregunto si estoy haciendo lo correcto, si estoy equivocado, si me estoy negando a los hechos, si sólo busco información que confirma mi punto de vista, si estoy siendo egoísta, si en realidad todos mis amigos y familiares están en lo correcto y yo equivocado.
Sólo tengo un pensamiento reconfortante: prefiero tener dudas que certezas.
Yo he publicado pocas cosas en Facebook, para no abrumar con tanta información que contradice la versión oficial. Pensé que de esa forma podía aminorar la disonancia cognitiva de las personas que me leen. Muy pocas veces he ido a comentar los post de amigos y familiares, para darles un punto de vista distinto. En el mejor de los casos, no me contestan. Otros me han dicho que solo falta que crea que la tierra es plana. Y otro me dijo que no admitía mi duda sobre la pandemia, porque su mamá enfermera estaba peleando contra una pandemia y esa es toda la evidencia que necesita. Hoy una persona comentaba en el grupo de Whatsapp familiar, que mi país tenía más contagiados que China y que un municipio estaba comprado tumbas para los muertos pobres por Covid-19. Le dije que no se puede quedar con el titular de la noticia y habia que buscar explicaciones para que un país pequeño tenga más contagiados que China (di varias posibles razones). Mi hermano comentó que es estresante que yo diera tanta hipótesis cruzada, que compartir interpretaciones estadísticas con todo el mundo es estresante, que era un hecho que en Francia la cuarentena había logrado bajar los contagios y que las teorías se deben discutir entre especialistas, porque entre ciudadanos de a pie es agotador. Bueno, contesté que su estrés se debía a la disonancia cognitiva y exptesé que lo que está en juego hoy en la humanidad es nuestra consciencia y no el exterminio de nuestras vidas. Me contestó que era yo el que tenía disonacia cognitiva, que busco información para confirmar mi punto de vista, que inundo de información, que la teoría de la manipulación de masas por parte de los medios de la élite está cuestionada por incompleta y que la gente no es tonta si sabe consumir medios.
De paso, hoy recibí sin mascarilla a un técnico del servicio de agua, por lo que mi novia me dijo que la ponía en riesgo, que la pandemia es una realidad ya que hay personas de nuestro entorno que están contagiadas, que sólo pienso en mí, que yo soy un hippie y que tenía que seguir su punto de vista o me tenia que ir de la casa.
Entonces me pregunto si estoy haciendo lo correcto, si estoy equivocado, si me estoy negando a los hechos, si sólo busco información que confirma mi punto de vista, si estoy siendo egoísta, si en realidad todos mis amigos y familiares están en lo correcto y yo equivocado.
Sólo tengo un pensamiento reconfortante: prefiero tener dudas que certezas.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Head of Italy's Lombardy region given police escort as COVID anger mounts
MILAN May 27, 2020 - The governor of Lombardy, the northern region at the epicentre of Italy’s coronavirus outbreak, said on Wednesday that he had been given a police escort after growing criticism of his administration’s handling of the crisis.
Lombardy, Italy’s richest and most populous region and the motor of its economy, is one of the worst affected areas of the world by the coronavirus, accounting for around half of the country’s more than 32,000 dead.
The regional government, controlled by opposition leader Matteo Salvini’s anti-immigrant League party, has seen approval ratings plunge amid angry attacks on its response and on health sector reforms by previous League governments that many say left the region badly prepared to face the epidemic.
Regional governor Attilio Fontana, a close Salvini ally, gave no details of the security escort but said the decision to assign one had not been at his request but had been decided by the “relevant authorities”.
The decision to assign the escort, as Italy has begun to ease lockdown restrictions imposed almost three months ago, highlighted widespread public anger at the handling of both the health crisis and the lockdown measures.
Authorities said Education Minister Lucia Azzolina and Deputy Health Minister Pierpaolo Sileri, had also been assigned security details in recent days.
Putin sets new date for Red Square military parade postponed over coronavirus
President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday set a new date of June 24 for a grand Red Square military parade he was forced to postpone over a coronavirus outbreak that is still triggering thousands of new infections each day.
The parade, originally scheduled for May 9, is designed to mark the 75th anniversary of the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two. It has been held annually on that date and the raw display of military strength and patriotism has become a hallmark of Putin’s rule.
Putin said the new date would fall on the anniversary of a military parade by Soviet forces across Red Square in 1945. After Putin’s announcement, the presidents of Kazakhstan and Moldova said they would attend.
Boston Marathon — originally postponed from April to September — is canceled for the 1st time in its 124-year history
May 28, 2020 -The Boston Marathon has been canceled for the first time in its 124-year history.
Organizers said Thursday that they instead will have a virtual event in which participants who verify that they ran 26.2 miles will receive their finisher’s medal.The race originally had been scheduled for April 20 before being postponed for five months because of the coronavirus pandemic.
Although the title of Boston Marathon champion is contested by a few dozen elite athletes, the field includes more than 30,000 recreational and charity runners, with as many as 1 million people lined up along the course trek from Hopkinton, Mass., to Boston’s Back Bay. That presented organizers with a social distancing problem that won’t be solved by the fall.
The cancellation is the first ever for the race, which began in 1897 when 15 men drew a starting line in the dirt in Ashland and headed for the city to commemorate the first modern Olympic Games the previous year. In 1918, the format was modified to a relay because of World War I; the 2013 race was stopped when two bombs exploded at the finish line several hours after the winners had finished but while many recreational runners were still on the course.
For each of those years, the race was held in April on the state holiday to commemorate the battles in Lexington and Concord that marked the start of the Revolutionary War. Traditionally the Red Sox have scheduled their first pitch for the morning so baseball fans could wander over to Kenmore Square after the game to see the runners pass by with one mile to go.
The 2021 Boston Marathon is scheduled for April 19, and the 125th anniversary edition is scheduled for April 18, 2022.
U.N. delays crucial climate summit for a year, cites pandemic
The coronavirus pandemic has prompted the United Nations to delay until late 2021 a crucial climate summit that had been scheduled for Britain this year, officials said on Thursday.
This year’s meeting, known as the COP26 summit, had been billed as the most important climate change summit since the 2015 talks that produced the Paris Agreement. Hundreds of world leaders had been expected to respond to public pressure for stronger global climate action by delivering pledges to slash greenhouse gas emissions more rapidly.
The summit will be rescheduled to Nov. 1 to 12, 2021, the UN’s climate body decided, dates proposed by the British government. Glasgow, Scotland will remain the host city, and there will first be a warm-up summit in Italy.
British climate official Alok Sharma said the delay would give countries more time to rebuild economies with climate change prioritized. Negotiators from bloc of less developed countries also urged governments not to use the pandemic to delay stronger climate plans, but instead to boost renewable energy, conservation and other green measures as economies recover.
European Union leaders proposed such a plan on Wednesday to tie a 750 billion euro recovery fund to climate goals.
MILAN May 27, 2020 - The governor of Lombardy, the northern region at the epicentre of Italy’s coronavirus outbreak, said on Wednesday that he had been given a police escort after growing criticism of his administration’s handling of the crisis.
Lombardy, Italy’s richest and most populous region and the motor of its economy, is one of the worst affected areas of the world by the coronavirus, accounting for around half of the country’s more than 32,000 dead.
The regional government, controlled by opposition leader Matteo Salvini’s anti-immigrant League party, has seen approval ratings plunge amid angry attacks on its response and on health sector reforms by previous League governments that many say left the region badly prepared to face the epidemic.
Regional governor Attilio Fontana, a close Salvini ally, gave no details of the security escort but said the decision to assign one had not been at his request but had been decided by the “relevant authorities”.
The decision to assign the escort, as Italy has begun to ease lockdown restrictions imposed almost three months ago, highlighted widespread public anger at the handling of both the health crisis and the lockdown measures.
Authorities said Education Minister Lucia Azzolina and Deputy Health Minister Pierpaolo Sileri, had also been assigned security details in recent days.
Putin sets new date for Red Square military parade postponed over coronavirus
President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday set a new date of June 24 for a grand Red Square military parade he was forced to postpone over a coronavirus outbreak that is still triggering thousands of new infections each day.
The parade, originally scheduled for May 9, is designed to mark the 75th anniversary of the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany in World War Two. It has been held annually on that date and the raw display of military strength and patriotism has become a hallmark of Putin’s rule.
Putin said the new date would fall on the anniversary of a military parade by Soviet forces across Red Square in 1945. After Putin’s announcement, the presidents of Kazakhstan and Moldova said they would attend.
Boston Marathon — originally postponed from April to September — is canceled for the 1st time in its 124-year history
May 28, 2020 -The Boston Marathon has been canceled for the first time in its 124-year history.
Organizers said Thursday that they instead will have a virtual event in which participants who verify that they ran 26.2 miles will receive their finisher’s medal.The race originally had been scheduled for April 20 before being postponed for five months because of the coronavirus pandemic.
Although the title of Boston Marathon champion is contested by a few dozen elite athletes, the field includes more than 30,000 recreational and charity runners, with as many as 1 million people lined up along the course trek from Hopkinton, Mass., to Boston’s Back Bay. That presented organizers with a social distancing problem that won’t be solved by the fall.
The cancellation is the first ever for the race, which began in 1897 when 15 men drew a starting line in the dirt in Ashland and headed for the city to commemorate the first modern Olympic Games the previous year. In 1918, the format was modified to a relay because of World War I; the 2013 race was stopped when two bombs exploded at the finish line several hours after the winners had finished but while many recreational runners were still on the course.
For each of those years, the race was held in April on the state holiday to commemorate the battles in Lexington and Concord that marked the start of the Revolutionary War. Traditionally the Red Sox have scheduled their first pitch for the morning so baseball fans could wander over to Kenmore Square after the game to see the runners pass by with one mile to go.
The 2021 Boston Marathon is scheduled for April 19, and the 125th anniversary edition is scheduled for April 18, 2022.
U.N. delays crucial climate summit for a year, cites pandemic
The coronavirus pandemic has prompted the United Nations to delay until late 2021 a crucial climate summit that had been scheduled for Britain this year, officials said on Thursday.
This year’s meeting, known as the COP26 summit, had been billed as the most important climate change summit since the 2015 talks that produced the Paris Agreement. Hundreds of world leaders had been expected to respond to public pressure for stronger global climate action by delivering pledges to slash greenhouse gas emissions more rapidly.
The summit will be rescheduled to Nov. 1 to 12, 2021, the UN’s climate body decided, dates proposed by the British government. Glasgow, Scotland will remain the host city, and there will first be a warm-up summit in Italy.
British climate official Alok Sharma said the delay would give countries more time to rebuild economies with climate change prioritized. Negotiators from bloc of less developed countries also urged governments not to use the pandemic to delay stronger climate plans, but instead to boost renewable energy, conservation and other green measures as economies recover.
European Union leaders proposed such a plan on Wednesday to tie a 750 billion euro recovery fund to climate goals.
