Coronavirus Pandemic: Apocalypse Now! Or exaggerated scare story?

[Mandatory Intellectomy]

If you do want to start a thread on Bechamp et. al., make it a separate one. I'll post stuff on it, and maybe we can get some other biologists and doctors to pitch in and get some articles for SOTT out of it. The works of those men need to be brought back out into the light of day. The Naessens book is the one I'd recommend starting with first, though. It's the best written and gives a really good coverage of the backstory behind the pleomorphic theory.

Thank you, Ketone Cop! I was kinda hoping that you'd have something to contribute to this topic, since you've already spoken about it. I think there's much to explore in this. It feels to me like this is another huge chunk of 'knowledge' that's just wrong, like Darwinism. So yeah, I do want to have a thread about that. I was thinking about using this one:

Is the whole germ theory wrong?

Is the whole germ theory based on a wrong premise? Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains new study finds -- Sott.net In the comments to that article AmandaMay provided multiple quotes from medical scientists and doctors claiming that Pasteur's germ theory is plainly wrong.

cassiopaea.org

(I've never started new threads, so I don't know whether this one's appropriate or I should make a new one somewhere.)

I wasn't sure where to start, so thanks for the tip. I'll start with The Persecution and Trial.

Then the stuff that happened to humanity after Jenner and Pasteur did their damage...read Dr. Suzanne Humphries' book, "Dissolving Illusions". Most of that stuff is in there, and its compelling.

Cool, got that one too. Now I just need a few months of vacation to read everything, heh.

And what I am finding as I look closer just proves to me further that Bechamp was right: as long as you are healthy, eat right, and are not under constant physiological stress, you could literally cross the Gangrene River in the heart of the Marburg Valley during an Ebola mist while holding the arms of lepers and chewing anthrax jerky and not get sick.

I think so too. The reason why today even people with healthy lifestyles suffer from all kinds of illnesses and allergies is probably all the messed up stuff that comes along with our damaged civilisation, like WiFi/cellphones and all kinds of pollution and contamination we're not even properly aware of. Plus the following...

Every single pandemic and plague that I have researched so far reveals that those who became ill were under stress from at least one of the following things (and usually multiples): starvation; overcrowding; war; bad water; environmental degradation or catastrophes (including comets!); forced to move large distances to find better living conditions; collapse of the fauna that they hunted for subsistence; forced to exist in deplorable living conditions with lots of rats and insects; forced to live on agricultural products alone etc.

Yes, I think stress is a huge factor, if not the main one. I read this somewhere recently:

Individuals with a negative outlook were at greatest risk of developing colds - regardless of their intake of vitamin C and zinc or their smoking and drinking habits. The next highest-risk individuals were those who believed that they were under stress. These people were nearly three times as likely to develop a cold, according to the report.

In the light of this, it could be said the PTB literally created the pandemic by stressing the shit out of everyone and then doing everything wrong, from the medical point of view. If what matters for a disease is the terrain and not the bug, then they destroyed the terrain (by creating fear and panic) and the bug just came to eat the dead cells, because that's what it does.
If the virus hadn't been on the news, a lot fewer people would have caught it and died from it. (Never mind dying from other reasons caused by this propagandemic.)

Anyway: the more I read, the more I am coming to believe that the entire plague and pandemic meme is a giant, multi-millennia psy-op that has weakened people's minds and made them believe lies about their own ability to resist disease, and has thus programmed people to accept vaccinations and quarantines and useless medicines etc. as THE way to "fight disease", when the REAL answer has ALWAYS been to simply strengthen your immune system.

Yes, that's pretty much exactly the view that's been forming in my mind as well. This germ theory crap is mental poison, just like Darwinism. It just sets people on a completely wrong path that prevents them from seeing many other things clearly and sets them up for Big Pharma's onslaught of medication that keeps them sick and vaccines.

 

[bjorb]

Has this one been posted before? This is what wearing the masks tells about you and a lot more!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1270258196045877248

 

[Ruth]

Let's hope that nobody is that "woke." If the Wokerati try that, they may be in for some rude awakenings. A major problem is that they wouldn't inflict that pain and suffering only on themselves. Another "problem" is that most karma isn't instant.

I think a major problem with the "woke" crowd is that many of them are entitled obnoxious brats. They are definitely clueless enough to bite the hand that feeds them (mostly their parents and sometimes even their employers) and then wonder why on earth these people won't support them when they find themselves in a mess..... This "woke" crowd is a movement of fools. I can't help thinking that they are encouraged at some level of the Establishment in order to be a distraction.

 

[Ruth]

I'm sure that's unintentional though.

At some level it's not. And, it's not the only thing that happening....

 

[loreta]

Has this one been posted before? This is what wearing the masks tells about you and a lot more!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1270258196045877248

I will share it on FB if you don't mind. I am against masks 500%.

 

[loreta]

Thank you, Ketone Cop! I was kinda hoping that you'd have something to contribute to this topic, since you've already spoken about it. I think there's much to explore in this. It feels to me like this is another huge chunk of 'knowledge' that's just wrong, like Darwinism. So yeah, I do want to have a thread about that. I was thinking about using this one:

Is the whole germ theory wrong?

Is the whole germ theory based on a wrong premise? Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains new study finds -- Sott.net In the comments to that article AmandaMay provided multiple quotes from medical scientists and doctors claiming that Pasteur's germ theory is plainly wrong.

cassiopaea.org

(I've never started new threads, so I don't know whether this one's appropriate or I should make a new one somewhere.)

I wasn't sure where to start, so thanks for the tip. I'll start with The Persecution and Trial.


Cool, got that one too. Now I just need a few months of vacation to read everything, heh.


I think so too. The reason why today even people with healthy lifestyles suffer from all kinds of illnesses and allergies is probably all the messed up stuff that comes along with our damaged civilisation, like WiFi/cellphones and all kinds of pollution and contamination we're not even properly aware of. Plus the following...


Yes, I think stress is a huge factor, if not the main one. I read this somewhere recently:

In the light of this, it could be said the PTB literally created the pandemic by stressing the shit out of everyone and then doing everything wrong, from the medical point of view. If what matters for a disease is the terrain and not the bug, then they destroyed the terrain (by creating fear and panic) and the bug just came to eat the dead cells, because that's what it does.
If the virus hadn't been on the news, a lot fewer people would have caught it and died from it. (Never mind dying from other reasons caused by this propagandemic.)


Yes, that's pretty much exactly the view that's been forming in my mind as well. This germ theory crap is mental poison, just like Darwinism. It just sets people on a completely wrong path that prevents them from seeing many other things clearly and sets them up for Big Pharma's onslaught of medication that keeps them sick and vaccines.

It is more then that. It is a way to steal, economic speaking, all the money of people not just taking out their jobs, but their houses, their pensions, their money that they put aside in banks. It is so gross that sometimes I want to cry.

 

[psychegram]

Latest Coronadoom update from William Briggs. His take: the 'pandemic' is over, except for politically, since the politicians are going to keep doing everything in their power to squeeze every new reported case as justification for ongoing control (never mind that "new" cases are just an artifact of increased testing).

Coronavirus Update XVII: End The Farce Now

The money plot from his article: weekly COVID-1984 deaths, as per the CDC:

 

[Ruth]

I will share it on FB if you don't mind. I am against masks 500%.

Lol, only 500%? That's like stoping people from going to the gym to developing muscular stength. We're all against this travesty. It's terrible.

 

[Wandering Star]

Thank you, Ketone Cop! I was kinda hoping that you'd have something to contribute to this topic, since you've already spoken about it. I think there's much to explore in this. It feels to me like this is another huge chunk of 'knowledge' that's just wrong, like Darwinism. So yeah, I do want to have a thread about that. I was thinking about using this one:

Is the whole germ theory wrong?

Is the whole germ theory based on a wrong premise? Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains new study finds -- Sott.net In the comments to that article AmandaMay provided multiple quotes from medical scientists and doctors claiming that Pasteur's germ theory is plainly wrong.

cassiopaea.org

(I've never started new threads, so I don't know whether this one's appropriate or I should make a new one somewhere.)

I wasn't sure where to start, so thanks for the tip. I'll start with The Persecution and Trial.


Cool, got that one too. Now I just need a few months of vacation to read everything, heh.


I think so too. The reason why today even people with healthy lifestyles suffer from all kinds of illnesses and allergies is probably all the messed up stuff that comes along with our damaged civilisation, like WiFi/cellphones and all kinds of pollution and contamination we're not even properly aware of. Plus the following...


Yes, I think stress is a huge factor, if not the main one. I read this somewhere recently:

In the light of this, it could be said the PTB literally created the pandemic by stressing the shit out of everyone and then doing everything wrong, from the medical point of view. If what matters for a disease is the terrain and not the bug, then they destroyed the terrain (by creating fear and panic) and the bug just came to eat the dead cells, because that's what it does.
If the virus hadn't been on the news, a lot fewer people would have caught it and died from it. (Never mind dying from other reasons caused by this propagandemic.)


Yes, that's pretty much exactly the view that's been forming in my mind as well. This germ theory crap is mental poison, just like Darwinism. It just sets people on a completely wrong path that prevents them from seeing many other things clearly and sets them up for Big Pharma's onslaught of medication that keeps them sick and vaccines.

Maybe it would be a good question for the C's.

Surely there are "people" who would feel "threatened" by a possible appearance of the "truth" on this subject.

 

[Tauriel]

Just went to IKEA.
I was postponing this after they reopened because I have to get all my attitude on a 'sane and strong' level to go out there.
Masks are mandatory in Germany in every shop.
They have security guys at the entrance- mostly some coloured guys who probably didn't have a job before.
Everybody was complying in the shop, although I saw not few people leaving their nose free, me included.
All went well, I paid with a very nice cashier only to find that I forgot something. I could leave my stuff at the checkout and went back to catch the missing item. Back at the checkout again a young security guard bawled me out to put my mask over my nose. I could see the cashier and another worker cringe. I put the mask up without saying a word. He left, I freed my nose..... But this little nazi really came back to check whether I was a good sheep and bawled me out again, that he could deny me my shopping if I don't comply.
I said, this is like in nazi Germany or the DDR. Everybody was looking at me.
The friendly cashier said: "I will explain it to you. We have the regulatory agency (Ordnungsamt) guys here every day. They sneak in incognito and watch over the enforcing of these new insane rules. If they find that we're not enforcing the measures, they'll close the shop again."
I could see that she really felt embarrassed behind her mask.
I told her about the negative effects of wearing a mask for hours each day and advised her to choose the ridiculous plastic shield instead (obviously the IKEA personnel can choose between a mask and a shield).
Behind me there was an elderly couple. She was sitting in a wheel chair, asking, "So you really think wearing a mask makes us sick?"
I replied, 'Yes, maybe not at once but give it a few months and our immune systems will give up under the constant lack of oxygen."
She didn't look too happy about this information.
I will refrain from going to IKEA again too soon.

 

[echo]

Just went to IKEA.
I was postponing this after they reopened because I have to get all my attitude on a 'sane and strong' level to go out there.
Masks are mandatory in Germany in every shop.
They have security guys at the entrance- mostly some coloured guys who probably didn't have a job before.
Everybody was complying in the shop, although I saw not few people leaving their nose free, me included.
All went well, I paid with a very nice cashier only to find that I forgot something. I could leave my stuff at the checkout and went back to catch the missing item. Back at the checkout again a young security guard bawled me out to put my mask over my nose. I could see the cashier and another worker cringe. I put the mask up without saying a word. He left, I freed my nose..... But this little nazi really came back to check whether I was a good sheep and bawled me out again, that he could deny me my shopping if I don't comply.
I said, this is like in nazi Germany or the DDR. Everybody was looking at me.
The friendly cashier said: "I will explain it to you. We have the regulatory agency (Ordnungsamt) guys here every day. They sneak in incognito and watch over the enforcing of these new insane rules. If they find that we're not enforcing the measures, they'll close the shop again."
I could see that she really felt embarrassed behind her mask.
I told her about the negative effects of wearing a mask for hours each day and advised her to choose the ridiculous plastic shield instead (obviously the IKEA personnel can choose between a mask and a shield).
Behind me there was an elderly couple. She was sitting in a wheel chair, asking, "So you really think wearing a mask makes us sick?"
I replied, 'Yes, maybe not at once but give it a few months and our immune systems will give up under the constant lack of oxygen."
She didn't look too happy about this information.
I will refrain from going to IKEA again too soon.

I went to IKEA the other day too.. It was pretty crowded, but there were no extreme measures of control, some signs on the floor and a voice in the loud speakers every now and then, telling people to keep a distance .. which no one really seemed to do except for at checkout. I spotted no masks except on two weirdos. Sweden is staying relaxed about the situation I guess.

 

[Cassandane]

Of course. Lack of compliance to social distancing means that you're a psychopath or one of the other two dark triad personalities or have low agreeableness or conscientiousness and poor hygiene. No mention that ignoring the guidelines might indicate lack of belief in the pandemic based on fact, but...

"Research should also test more ways of framing public-health advice to find messages that may work for the more antagonistic individuals among us."

.....let's work harder to make the false narrative more convincing.

Psychopathic traits linked to non-compliance with social distancing guidelines amid the coronavirus pandemic

New research provides some initial evidence that certain antagonistic personality traits are associated with ignoring preventative measures meant to halt

www.psypost.org

Thanks for a good laugh. Yeah, no mention of the elephant in the room in this article. Of the personality traits assessed in the study, there was no mention of the strength of a participant's BS detector and how that might play into whether they'd kowtow to ridiculous ideas.

Interesting that they equated non-compliance with psychopathy. Perhaps they'll add non-compliance to covid rules to the symptoms in the DSM-IV.

 

[il y a des cactus]

Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is ‘very rare,’ WHO says

Key Points

• Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, the World Health Organization said.
• Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated the virus could spread even if people didn’t have symptoms.
• But the WHO says that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is “very rare.”

Coronavirus patients without symptoms aren’t driving the spread of the virus, World Health Organization officials said Monday, casting doubt on concerns by some researchers that the disease could be difficult to contain due to asymptomatic infections.
Some people, particularly young and otherwise healthy individuals, who are infected by the coronavirus never develop symptoms or only develop mild symptoms. Others might not develop symptoms until days after they were actually infected.

Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated that the virus could spread from person-to-person contact, even if the carrier didn’t have symptoms. But WHO officials now say that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is not the main way it’s being transmitted.

“From the data we have, it still seems to be rare that an asymptomatic person actually transmits onward to a secondary individual,” Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, head of WHO’s emerging diseases and zoonosis unit, said at a news briefing from the United Nations agency’s Geneva headquarters. “It’s very rare.”

Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, and tracking anyone who might have come into contact with them, Van Kerkhove said. She acknowledged that some studies have indicated asymptomatic or presymptomatic spread in nursing homes and in household settings.

More research and data are needed to “truly answer” the question of whether the coronavirus can spread widely through asymptomatic carriers, Van Kerkhove added.

“We have a number of reports from countries who are doing very detailed contact tracing,” she said. “They’re following asymptomatic cases. They’re following contacts. And they’re not finding secondary transmission onward. It’s very rare.”
If asymptomatic spread proves to not be a main driver of coronavirus transmission, the policy implications could be tremendous. A report from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention published on April 1 cited the “potential for presymptomatic transmission” as a reason for the importance of social distancing.

“These findings also suggest that to control the pandemic, it might not be enough for only persons with symptoms to limit their contact with others because persons without symptoms might transmit infection,” the CDC study said.

To be sure, asymptomatic and presymptomatic spread of the virus appears to still be happening, Van Kerkhove said but remains rare. That finding has important implications for how to screen for the virus and limit its spread.

“What we really want to be focused on is following the symptomatic cases,” Van Kerkhove said. “If we actually followed all of the symptomatic cases, isolated those cases, followed the contacts and quarantined those contacts, we would drastically reduce” the outbreak.

Correction: An earlier headline should have said most asymptomatic coronavirus patients aren’t spreading new infections. The word “most” was inadvertently omitted.

Oh, I LOVE this development!

 

[il y a des cactus]

Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is ‘very rare,’ WHO says

Key Points

• Government responses should focus on detecting and isolating infected people with symptoms, the World Health Organization said.
• Preliminary evidence from the earliest outbreaks indicated the virus could spread even if people didn’t have symptoms.
• But the WHO says that while asymptomatic spread can occur, it is “very rare.”

Oh, I LOVE this development!

WHO walks back comments on asymptomatic coronavirus spread, says much is still unknown

And then they walked it back the next day! Haha, can't let too much truth out lol!

 

[thorbiorn]

They will need a lot more for the hypnosis to be broken.

Maybe some are already showing signs. This is anecdotal evidence, someone I know etc. but it may still if added to other instances show what might happen to people one would not have expected would change their opinion.

Recently there were 15,000 gathered for BLM protest in one city and many smaller groups in other places. At the same time no more than 10 person were allowed to gather in one place, only from next Monday it will be 50. At the same time as these massive demonstrations, a local open market in her vicinity had to pack up when the police showed up. A woman was fined 300 Euros, and a minister could not come up with proper reasoning for why they took the decisions they did etc.

The result of these conflicting events led her finally to some kind of a rage, after years and years of defending mainstream positions. Now she is not shy to let some of her old friends, who hold on to the current media narrative know what she thinks does not add up.

It is too early to say, if this newly gained insight is temporary, or if more will follow. The question I have to myself is what will the conversation be the next time I visit. Is she and her husband asking for anything? Will there be anything particularly worth sharing? And if there are several possibilities considering the constrictions of time and place, how to share that which is most helpful?