@SOTTREADER
"I have to admit I'm getting myself psychologically ready to never comply and therefore suffer all consequences that come with that."

I'm not saying that this isn't a useful thing, but if it is all you are focusing on then you are certainly going to attract that very thing, ie, they will show up at your door, pull the trigger, etc or whatever the scenario happens to be.

Relax friend. You're not afraid of death, you're afraid of everything that might happen leading up to that moment. And those things haven't happened and may not ever happen. So breathe - you're okay!
 
Beautifully said, @Color .

- I felt like I'm losing my only true social safe net, my shelter. I believe many people here feel the same way about this forum
Same here. I thought why is he bringing FB here. I already started skipping your posts, Sottreader, although I often like what you have to say.
Coming from a similar mindset as well you triggered uncomfortable feelings for which I must thank you, a mirror.
And thanks to Color's reply I felt like moving this frigging assembly point a minute bit.

I think that it's of great importance here that we don't forget to balance knowledge with being.

“When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.”
Viktor E. Frankl
 
@Color & @Pearce thanks.

My partner has recently mentioned to me that I appear to be in a state of shock. Thinking about it, I think I am and I don't necessarily think it's conscious. I think I've been paying so much attention to this situation that I've absorbed shock from the various realisations.

Another thing she's mentioned is that I shouldn't assume I know the outcome. This has got me thinking that I may have slipped into the mindset of thinking I know where things are going and it's this that leads to some of the shock.

I can't seem to escape this feeling of shock / dread (it seems to be beyond my conscious control). I also have some nightmares nowadays which is interesting - lots of drama in the dream space.

I'm trying the best I can to live and maintain a normal life - work, socialising, cultural events even travel here and there... Trying to live as if this thing isn't real but to be honest, at every turn there's a reminder: masks, forms to fill, things to scan in your phone, posters, billboards etc.

I don't know how others can be so calm. I'm yet to figure this out but as I say, my nervous system seems to be in a state of shock. I can feel this state having a low level hold of me.

I've also noticed my level of distrust of authority has gone from let's say moderate to extreme! I'm highly suspicious of the system, I'm almost shocked by it and I feel trapped in it with no escape but my Being wants the get out and it's manifesting as shock that is operating in the background. I feel like I've got to the point where I don't want the system to have this kind of control and power over me...

In any case, there's no escape, there's no getting out, I'm like a deer caught in the headlights... Trying to live and forget about the situation but unlike before the situation is so brought into focus it's like almost impossible to not constantly see it staring you in the face!

In any case, I can deal with this. My soul is free and I'm not spiritually weak.
 
"I have to admit I'm getting myself psychologically ready to never comply and therefore suffer all consequences that come with that."

As one of my friend used to say "We'll see what we will do when we will get to the bridge."

In the meantime, we have to stay focus, be ready for the next step, have faith and see the beauty as much as we can and keep that in mind:

A: Yes. You have done the research!

Q: (L) So what research have we done about healing DNA? Um... Melatonin heals DNA.

(Niall) Dietary changes.

(L) Being in a proper dietary state if you have to get a vaccine is going to be beneficial and maybe it is for just this type of situation that we were so motivated to do health research and experiments for so long; it was preparation and we didn’t even know it.

(Artemis) Being in ketosis heals you.

(Gaby) Vitamin C.

(Niall) Detoxification.

(L) Detox would be NAC and other things...

(Andromeda) Infrared sauna.

(Chu) Constant knowledge input.

(L) Willpower even. And they just mentioned that there are certain people with spiritual force who were able to modify the virus by their own inner powers in a positive way. I would imagine that having inner force or inner spiritual power would all be beneficial. Are we on the right track?

A: Yes yes yes!
 
@Color & @Pearce thanks.
My partner has recently mentioned to me that I appear to be in a state of shock. Thinking about it, I think I am and I don't necessarily think it's conscious. I think I've been paying so much attention to this situation that I've absorbed shock from the various realisations.

Another thing she's mentioned is that I shouldn't assume I know the outcome. This has got me thinking that I may have slipped into the mindset of thinking I know where things are going and it's this that leads to some of the shock.

Now I want to hug your partner! :-D You have a sincere loving mirror right there, in her.

I can't seem to escape this feeling of shock / dread (it seems to be beyond my conscious control). I also have some nightmares nowadays which is interesting - lots of drama in the dream space.

I'm trying the best I can to live and maintain a normal life - work, socialising, cultural events even travel here and there... Trying to live as if this thing isn't real but to be honest, at every turn there's a reminder: masks, forms to fill, things to scan in your phone, posters, billboards etc.

I don't know how others can be so calm. I'm yet to figure this out but as I say, my nervous system seems to be in a state of shock. I can feel this state having a low level hold of me..

Calm? I think you're confusing other's work on processing some highly disturbing emotions/thoughts and external consideration with 'calm'.

I've also noticed my level of distrust of authority has gone from let's say moderate to extreme! I'm highly suspicious of the system, I'm almost shocked by it and I feel trapped in it with no escape but my Being wants the get out and it's manifesting as shock that is operating in the background. I feel like I've got to the point where I don't want the system to have this kind of control and power over me....

Good! Then move forward and build some more of internal integration of all you hear/see/read around you through better understanding of 'open Universe lessons' and 'free choice' FACTS. You just have to consciously insert those into the equation, when overwhelmed with the horror of absurd.

In any case, there's no escape, there's no getting out, I'm like a deer caught in the headlights... Trying to live and forget about the situation but unlike before the situation is so brought into focus it's like almost impossible to not constantly see it staring you in the face!

In any case, I can deal with this. My soul is free and I'm not spiritually weak.

Escape is not the synonym for freedom. Neither is forgetting.
 
@Color & @Pearce thanks.

My partner has recently mentioned to me that I appear to be in a state of shock. Thinking about it, I think I am and I don't necessarily think it's conscious. I think I've been paying so much attention to this situation that I've absorbed shock from the various realisations.

Another thing she's mentioned is that I shouldn't assume I know the outcome. This has got me thinking that I may have slipped into the mindset of thinking I know where things are going and it's this that leads to some of the shock.

I don't know how others can be so calm. I'm yet to figure this out but as I say, my nervous system seems to be in a state of shock. I can feel this state having a low level hold of me.

Your partner may be on to something here. A big part of awakening to the lies and the truth is getting those shocks, but the trick is not to remain in the state of shock. You have to utilize that energy to get to the next stair step. It's not easy, but I'd say one thing you can do when you're feeling overwhelmed, is to identify exactly what piece of information is causing exactly what emotion, and write it down on a piece of paper. Then read it out loud; it helps to visually and audibly engage this information outside of your head. And if you can do this in a detached sort of state where you aren't really identifying with it but you are observing it, then you'll be able to process these shocks a little better each time. You can even write it in third-person for better effect! Don't worry about "solving" anything with it, just observe it, and breathe! Laura's EE and breathing exercises have a profound effect on the mind and body.

And most of all - you aren't alone! What you're learning to do is integrate these shocks so that if/when the time comes you'll be better able to assist others in integrating theirs.
 
But since the Covid vaccine is based on mRNA technology, so pretty much genetic engineering, I'm not too sure how any detox protocols could help with that. I'm not a doctor or a medical scientist so maybe there are things I don't understand about the process but I am quite concerned. If a vaccine is required in order to work, travel and operate in a society then I'm not too sure how I'd be able to avoid having one.

I don't think all Covid vaccines are mRNA vaccines. There are several being developed; most are 'normal', others aren't. The one from Moderna is mRNA, and as far as I know, they haven't been able to make it work properly yet. They once tested it on ferrets, which developed antibodies, but when later exposed to the virus directly they had an overreaction and died. 😳

It would be a good idea to research what sort of vaccine is the one being pushed in each of our countries when that happens, and see if there's a way to 'choose' the least damaging one if we are forced to take one. For example, if a country in Europe makes a Covid vaccine compulsory, maybe one could jump to a neighbouring EU country that offers a less harmful version of it and go back to their home country with proof that they had it? I guess we'll see when the time comes, but of course 'Plan A' should always be not getting any vaccine at all, if possible.

On another sad note:

 
False positive. Oops. Move along, nothing to see here.
So I guess that reinforces the "masks protect" BS. When Gov. Mikey thought he had CV, he still believed in masks. Now that he's gotten a false-positive on a test - a rapid test before DeWine was scheduled to greet President Donald Trump in Cleveland - that a more sensitive test produced a negative result, he no doubt still believes in the validity of testing, too. I doubt there's anything that will change such a mindset.
 
Don't perform this mental gymnastics....
Calm down. There was no 'mental gymnastics' going on.

When they inject you with an mRNA vaccine, it's inside you and there's no taking it back out.
Maybe, but it doesn't mean its going to do anything specific. Especially not in everyone.

The vaccine will interact with your genetic makeup and instruct your cells to create certain proteins whether you like it or not.
How the hell would you know that? There is no proper testing for any of this (it would take years), and even the scientists have little clue what it's gonna do. They only have an idea about what they want it to do, but they tend to be rather wrong about these things. The bottom line is that we have no idea what it will do, and it would be extremely strange if it had the same effect in everyone.

Whatever else it does, in terms of unforeseen consequences will leave you at the mercy of chance and you know what, there's no going back.
You don't know that. This is fear speaking, not science.

Lets just be straight with ourselves and not try and convince ourselves that in some special circumstances it'll be okay for us to give them this sort of access to our bodies.
Take a cold shower and read other people's posts again. Nobody on this forum has said that it'll be OK to take the vaccine, afaik. Some people are just considering that it might come to a point where they'll have to choose between two evils and it will not necessarily be clear which is the lesser one.

Interesting mindset Sottreader
Indeed. Sottreader's mind has already been hijacked by this vaccine, before it even had a chance to touch his blood stream. If the goal of the PTB is to lower your frequency, sottreader is already a victim. The spectre of a vaccine hovering above him every day did the trick. No need for an actual vaccine.

My only advice, to which I came to through my own personal struggle is: don't get attached to current happenings and possible outcomes. Just DON'T. Detach. Any time you can, every way you find helpful. Let it go. Let it play out. Whatever may be - let it happen. Have some Faith. Both in yourself and in God. That's all.
I think this is good advice, especially for sottreader.

I can't seem to escape this feeling of shock / dread (it seems to be beyond my conscious control).
What you may not realise is that this feeling has been so ingrained in you that it's seeping through your posts and affecting others. If you were able to read your own posts from the last 2 months calmly and objectively, you might notice that you sound a little like the guy running around, shaking people, and screaming "we're all gonna die!"

I know we need to stay informed and understand what's going on, but honestly, I'm not sure reading vaccine news every day is a good thing for your health. I don't think freaking out about it every day is gonna make your future any better. Likely the contrary. The VaccineFear has taken a hold of you like Sauron's ring. Everything you see is distorted through the lens of VaccineFear. (See Color's quote above. BTW, I think all Color's responses to you were really good. Hope you get something useful out of them.)

Trying to live as if this thing isn't real but to be honest, at every turn there's a reminder: masks
Oh, since you mentioned that... it occurred to me recently that that might actually be the primary reason for the masks - to remind you that there's a crisis, that you should be afraid, that the world is not normal and safe anymore. Without the masks, people might not even notice that there's a 'pandemic' going on.

Anyway, why would you pretend it 'isn't real'? It's real, but so what? Right now, you seem like somebody who got defeated before the real battle even began. Get it out of your mind that we've already lost. Keep your mind open. Let your spirit soar, instead of crouching in the corner and mumbling something about vaccines.

I don't know how others can be so calm.
A lot of people probably aren't as calm as they seem. Might do you some good to take a few deep breaths before every post you make, and to try to make the post sound a bit less panicky than you're feeling. Try to read it before posting and think about what kind of energy it carries to others.

Also, some like me are calm simply because there's nothing much going on where I live. I have to laugh at the fact that wearing masks ended here when it started in other places. No masks here for the past month. (Though they may return.)

In any case, there's no escape, there's no getting out
Please ask your partner to slap some sense into you now and then.

Remind yourself that you are here for a reason, to learn some lessons. If you end up getting vaccinated, then that probably was a lesson you agreed to experience on some level. Being terrified of it isn't doing you any good. Really, take Color's advice, and don't get so attached to all this crap. Many things can happen between now and whatever you're afraid of. It may not come to the thing you're so afraid of, and then you'll be the fool who had spent months being terrified for nothing. The future is open. Your mind... seems to have settled on a particular outcome already. Set it free. Don't be controlled by fear.
 

:rotfl: Fair point. The problem being my personal experience in the real world makes me ready to believe it.

....And when I read something like this, and hear the many so called educated people supporting this, well it is quite clear that NOTHING, no actual evidence to the contrary, will convince them, they will give away all their own freedom as well as enforce and shame anyone who objects. It is absolutely stunning to watch this happen in real time among friends and neighbours.

I think this is one of the things I find the most upsetting (even though ALL of this is extremely upsetting to say the very least). The fact that it seems to be a virus of the mind first and foremost. My brain seriously hurts when I see all of these supposedly intelligent people eating up the lies when the actual facts and figures so obviously show a completely different story.
 
On another sad note:

Bellow that tweeter post, in comments:

"Martial Law in Melbourne, smashing car windows to take people out of the car refusing to give details of their journeys. Coming to your city soon, please share"

The ending message of that video:

We don't want you to be doing that, but people absolutely have to understand there are consequences for your actions and if you're not doing the right thing we will not hesitate to issue infringements to arrest you, to detain you where it's appropriate. The message is clear for me. And it's simple. We want you to stay at home. That's what the chief hold officer wants you to do. We expect you to adhere to chief officer's guidelines. If you don't, we will be enforcing those, we will insure infringements, we will arrest you, we will detain you where we have to.

Video:

 
Mandatory Intellectomy said:
Remind yourself that you are here for a reason, to learn some lessons. If you end up getting vaccinated, then that probably was a lesson you agreed to experience on some level. Being terrified of it isn't doing you any good. Really, take Color's advice, and don't get so attached to all this crap. Many things can happen between now and whatever you're afraid of. It may not come to the thing you're so afraid of, and then you'll be the fool who had spent months being terrified for nothing. The future is open. Your mind... seems to have settled on a particular outcome already. Set it free. Don't be controlled by fear.

There is a principle in chess - “The threat is stronger than the execution”. Also, psychologists understood that in torture the threat of pain is worse than the pain itself. The same dynamic is at play. The point is to keep you off balance. The imagination takes over making what are only possibilities real for you - traumatizing you in the process.

@SOTTREADER, I urge you to take a step back, maybe do some pipe breathing to activate your vagus nerve, and regain your balance. It seems as if your emotional center has superseded all others. Or perhaps even shattered the link between them - a state that Gurdjieff equates with hysteria. And a lot of your posts have given me the impression of hysteria, FWIW.

Always remember the sage advice given by Douglas Adams - “Don’t Panic!” 🙂
 
Take a cold shower

:lol: Probably a good idea for multiple reasons.

If the goal of the PTB is to lower your frequency

Interesting you mentioned frequency as I was thinking perhaps the ultimate 'immunity' to all of 4D STS plans for domination is to raise one's FRV based on this which the C's seem pretty emphatic about:

And they just mentioned that there are certain people with spiritual force who were able to modify the virus by their own inner powers in a positive way. I would imagine that having inner force or inner spiritual power would all be beneficial. Are we on the right track?

A: Yes yes yes!
 

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