Sinophobes are well within reason to call this out as population control, not population 'protection'.
Yeah, that would be my take on it too. However, no-one is asking the question from the globalist point of view. These measures seem to have absolutely no benefit from the nationalist point of view. It's almost as if the people in control have no care about their own country, their citizens or their country's reputation. Something's really off here.
 
The Covid-19 "plandemic" takes a snakey turn... It also includes a hypothesis as to why monoclonal antibodies work! It's just anti-venom...

 
Anyway, it's an extreme situation that begs explanation.

Indeed it is - im thinking more along the lines of extreme population control because they know whats coming down the pipeline (food shortages etc.) China has been stockpiling resources, food, gold for the last few years. But i think they know it will not be enough to feed everyone in China; hence maybe they decided a trial run on their largest city in population control was best. Notice how they never tried this on Beijing which is the seat of the mandarins in the CCP.

I have colleagues living in Shanghai now, and the situation is pretty much as bad as portrayed. Food is in shortage in lockdown areas, and there is basically now a whole thriving "business" trying to get food delivered especially to elderly parents who can't leave their apartment buildings.

They're either all (West & East) simply drunk on power and control, or there is some 'deadly' component of this lab-made virus that is doing something to the human population that fundamentally 'alters' the genome in ways that none of them dare speak about.

I think the angle on the "deadly" component of this virus is really interesting. I feel it is somehow also related to what is going on in Korea - as over the last few weeks Korea has seen between 200,000 - 500,000 cases daily (their population is 50+ million). About the only country currently in Asia having caseloads that high; and while Korea is having these high caseloads, Shanghai locksdown.

The C's have said that they (Empire) have been trying to create ethnic specific bio-weapons but without much success. Feel like there is something going on here that i can't seem to put my finger on :huh:......just my 2 cents
 
I don't think this discussion has been posted here before. During the first section Jeff Brown, author, co-founder of the Bioweapon Truth Commission, covers the persistent US black ops, bio-weapon 'attacks' that China has been living with for years now. Considering China's stalwart support for the Russian Operation and the desperate attempts by the west to drive wedges between them, it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the Shanghai outbreak has the Chinese authorities extremely concerned that they may be facing a renewed and specifically Chinese targeted attack. Considering they have as yet never spoken publicly concerning their experience of possible long-term bio-weapons events, then their silence on the cause of the panic over Shanghai may be just the latest element of a silent ongoing war.

The Ugly Truth of US Biowarfare in the Ukraine and Beyond (CP Podcast with Jeff J. Brown)

 
I met my first mask Nazi on my travel through Italy. It was a conductor on a ferry. I made the gross error of wearing the "blue" mask and this guy had a bone to pick - as I was walking in he ran and blocked my path saying all sorts in Italian and waving his hands all over the place. It was all rather dramatic. Anyways, I look to my side at the other passengers walking in and see a mix including some with the same mask I was wearing and others with no masks at all! As you can imagine my jaw is on the floor at this. This guy in uniform was busy making my day - I'm like wow, so I now have an experience with a mask Nazi. Anyways, being polite and all, I accept his authority (he's wearing a "scary" uniform after all and speaking hysterically at me) and do the walk of shame out the ferry. I take a moment, take a deep breath, look around at the scenery and think, wow, it looks so nice and yet I've had such a not so nice experience in such a beautiful setting - interesting but such is life. Anyways, quickly find the nearest pharmacy where I purchase the FPP2 mask, the mask that guarantees 100% protection and head back to get the next ferry - total time lost, 30 minutes. Come back, get on the ferry, my guy wasn't in this ferry and I was hoping to see him again. As soon as I walk past the conductor, mask off which is pretty much what everyone was doing.

What an interesting experience.

Later that evening we go to a restaurant, a pretentious one by all accounts, as I walk in and to my table waitress is saying you need a mask and where's your greenpass. On the mask, I look at her whilst walking and say "Excuse me I'm an ignorant foreigner who doesn't understand local customs" after which point I'm happily sat down. I then present my NHS QR code. Interestingly I saw this waitress nearly kick out a 13 - 16yr old girl for not having a "pass". As I say, pretentious place. It's a weird mix here in Italy - in most places people seem chill yet in others you find absolute crazies high on covid power.

Anyways, here's a lovely photo - don't be fooled by the beauty, there are some hysterical people out there within this setting

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The Covid-19 "plandemic" takes a snakey turn... It also includes a hypothesis as to why monoclonal antibodies work! It's just anti-venom...

Shocking.

Symbolism at its finest.
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Thanks, I was wondering what take 'sinophiles' had on this Shanghai lockdown. It's been 'crickets', so far, from Carl Zha and Daniel Dumbrill. I was initially skeptical, like sottreader, about this latest wave of 'videos coming out of China'. But the basic facts about Shanghai being under severe lockdown are fairly clear now. Tucker Carlson covered them in a recent report:


Up to the 6-minute mark, Carlson reports on some of the extreme measures being taken there. From there to the end of his report he speculates as to why the Chinese authorities are doing this: it's 'election season' in China, so Shanghai, with its relatively high degree of political autonomy, is 'being put in its place' by the central government ahead of Xi's (re-)'coronation'.

I don't find this explanation satisfactory. Surely, if that were the pressing motive, 'Covid measures' would be most liberal at this point in time in order to curry popular support for the government. Instead we're seeing what appear to be unjustifiably draconian 'health' measures. Sinophobes are well within reason to call this out as population control, not population 'protection'.

I wonder if Carlson's argument has merit, but in reverse: Shanghai's relative political independence (from Beijing) has enabled it to 'go it alone'? We saw that to some extent in Russia, with the Moscow authorities going way beyond requirements and recommendations set by the Russian Federal government.

Anyway, it's an extreme situation that begs explanation.
Here's a video of the starving apartment dwellers with English captions - This has gone viral on social media and some non-MSM media outlets - it will be interesting to see how the MSM handles this one.
Edit: Soul-crushing.
 
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Up to the 6-minute mark, Carlson reports on some of the extreme measures being taken there. From there to the end of his report he speculates as to why the Chinese authorities are doing this: it's 'election season' in China, so Shanghai, with its relatively high degree of political autonomy, is 'being put in its place' by the central government ahead of Xi's (re-)'coronation'.

I don't find this explanation satisfactory. Surely, if that were the pressing motive, 'Covid measures' would be most liberal at this point in time in order to curry popular support for the government. Instead we're seeing what appear to be unjustifiably draconian 'health' measures. Sinophobes are well within reason to call this out as population control, not population 'protection'.

I wonder if Carlson's argument has merit, but in reverse: Shanghai's relative political independence (from Beijing) has enabled it to 'go it alone'? We saw that to some extent in Russia, with the Moscow authorities going way beyond requirements and recommendations set by the Russian Federal government.

Anyway, it's an extreme situation that begs explanation.
It is strange. How much independence does Shanghai have? We know from previous lockdowns in other provinces that any 'failures' in zero-COVID policy implementation can result in local leaders being removed from their posts. In that sense, the COVID policy has been fairly top-down. From Carlson's reporting, he quoted an official he classifies as being China's Fauci commenting on the Shanghai lockdown, which seems to suggest Beijing's on board.

I haven't watched it all yet, but here's a compilation of videos from all stages of the Shanghai lockdown so far. It's over an hour long:


In the latest MindMatters interview with Gordon Hahn, he discusses his book on Russian security culture. Knowing Russian history helps put all of Putin/Russia's recent actions into perspective. Russia has a long-established (400+ years) vigilance norm when it comes to potential threats from Western military powers. They also have a long history of Western-inspired foreign subversion, from Polish-Lithuania/Vatican on to the present. And they also have cultural values centering around "tselestnost", or unity/integrality. So when the West poses a greater threat, Russia historically either gets invaded or launches its own military responses as a defense. And Russians tend to greatly unify in such times and turn against Western ideas and influence (which can manifest in extremely xenophobic ways). The flip side of that unity is that domestic dissidents are seen as foreign colluders (whether they are truly or not).

It's easy to see how all these cultural norms were pathologized during Soviet times. They can be dangerous in and of themselves, especially if the leader isn't quite normal. The "unifying" response can lead to overly brutal clampdowns on dissent and seeing enemies around every corner ("wreckers!" "capitalist agents!"). The negative features of these responses can create conditions ripe for ponerogenesis. Under a leader without Putin's character, you can imagine a nightmare version of what's going on now: pretty much as Western media imagine it is - mass attacks on civilians in Ukraine, torture/murder, mass clampdown on the slightest indications of domestic dissent (monitoring private conversations and chats, soliciting informers on those insufficiently loyal, lynchings of Westerners living in russia, etc.). I think Putin's calm, professional approach has mediated what could be a very ugly thing.

Anyways, the reason I bring Russia up as an example is that it might help to do something similar with China. I mentioned similarities with the Great Leap Forward. I suspect a lot of Mao's worst features might have simply been pathological versions of tendencies already extant in Chinese culture, similar to Lenin and Stalin's pathologizing of Russian security norms (just a guess, as I don't have enough of a background on pre-Mao times and the continuities/discontinuities). During the GLF, Mao instituted what I can only call insane levels of incompetence on a grand scale - from farming techniques that ordinary farmers knew would fail but had to implement anyways, to the great steel-production goals which saw peasants smelting all their metal property to create worthless pig iron. The tendency was something like "devote all energy to this impossible goal, and don't quit until it is reached!" Full mobilization of the populace was required, but since the goal was impossible from the beginning, it was doomed to failure, and millions died as a result.

There seems to me to be a holdover of this tendency in post-Mao China. I don't think it's the ONLY explanation for this zero-COVID policy, but it's significant. You have the impossible goal, and the endless energy to carry it out, even if it approaches levels of absurdity. There's also an element of the myth of technocracy rooted in utilitarian (i.e. schizoid) philosophy and ethics. I wouldn't be surprised if leaving people alone during a plague would be vastly more effective than all centralized "public health" policies that "experts" devise in an emergency. Even better might be to provide some basic education rooted in fact. But to try to "control" an entire population is the height of hubris. As seen in Shanghai, okay you want to lock everyone in their apartments. Do you have the infrastructure to provide them all with food? Seems like something to think about BEFORE implementing such a self-destructive policy.
 
FWIW , Steve Kirsch has an article out about Watch The Water video where Dr. Bryan Ardis discusses with Stew Peters that the virus is similar to snake venom. :-)

 
Indeed it is - im thinking more along the lines of extreme population control because they know whats coming down the pipeline (food shortages etc.) China has been stockpiling resources, food, gold for the last few years. But i think they know it will not be enough to feed everyone in China; hence maybe they decided a trial run on their largest city in population control was best. Notice how they never tried this on Beijing which is the seat of the mandarins in the CCP.
I'm really curious as to why people seem to think that it is only China thinking this way and acting upon it? Surely it's the whole globalist cabal? China must be a part of it, even if they don't know they are. Most likely quite a significant part, seeing that most people find their behaviour repugnant. This is something that the globalists would encourage. Why? Because it distracts people from what actions they are undertaking in their own countries.
 
Here's Cliff Highs take on the "Watch the Water" revelations. He's highly skeptical and makes some good points I think. Looks like Mike Adams is on his suspicious list of commentators after his rather silly comment about snake venom in the second post. I think Adams has a streak of sensationalism running through him which overshadows discernment at times.

The Watch The Water “documentary” is being passed around the net like a blunt at a Rastafarian dinner party.

Blunts are good. This ‘documentary’ is not good. In my opinion.

The principal player in this “documentary” is a Dr. Byron Ardis, who is a chiropractor and acupuncturist. This is a problem as the Doctor is touted as a medical doctor and practitioner, yet is not. So there is a presumed layer of ‘credentialism’ on this presentation from the start. The interview does not examine the education (not schooling) that Ardis undertook to be able to make these conclusions. There is no real background on any of the science behind any of the conclusions provided.

Propaganda! was my first impression of this video. The sound track, and the production values reinforced that idea. This movie was NOT made to simply present facts, or an opinion. It was made to SELL an opinion.

To what end? Why do they want to push this view? There is no science provided, just pointers to presumed social engineering and plays for emotionalism based on the viewers’ perspective on current events. In this, it would seem that this effort has been to target a specific demographic of people. Thus the tentative conclusion is that the producers of this video are working an agenda.

Yes, Remdesivir is a shit drug with a tainted history & not good results. Yes, the hospital protocols are killing people. This was known. The video sheds NO new light on any of this, but rather uses these as hooks for engagement with the rest of the material presented which is ALL about snakes & snake venom. All this material is based on assertions, not evidence, that Ardis makes as claims. He provides no evidence, but rather states his conclusions made with medical jargon laden descriptions, none of which are backed up, merely asserted as factual.

Mushrooms and venom of all kinds are two of THE MOST STUDIED biochemical compounds on the planet as they are also THE most reactive within human biochemistry. So it is natural that one may find either, or both, medicinal mushrooms, or venom, employed in almost ANY given medical procedure. There are quite actually THOUSANDS of medical treatments based on venom peptides. As far back as 2200 years ago, the Yellow Emperor’s Medicinal Compendium from China notes the effectiveness of dried venom from snakes as well as snails and sea creatures for medicinal use.

https://www.chemistryworld.com/features/from-venoms-to-medicine/3008360.article

Pick almost ANY medical condition, research into the approaches by all of medicine practitioners going back in time, and you will run into Snakes. Yep, sure and certain. There is a snake down there somewhere.

Ardis doesn’t bring any of this up. Maybe it is because, as a chiropractor, he is basically ignorant of medicinal history. Or maybe he wanted to present this information as though it was ALL targeted to covid. Maybe his goal is to push the idea that ALL the snake stuff was JUST for covid. Maybe he & the video want to use your lack of knowledge about how wide spread venom is within biochemical processes for developing medicines in order to slant the information to present a specific agenda. Maybe?

Maybe it is all clickbait at some level. Maybe the whole agenda behind the video is to warp the understanding of a particular segment of the population in order to further the policy agenda evident in covid. The Deep State does this you know. They deliberately pollute the information stream of the opposition in order to come back later to harvest confusion and sew doubt. It is a tactic in information wars.

It would be interesting to view a body language break-down of this video. There is disharmony being expressed between the words, and the face/gestures. This disharmony further degrades confidence in the presentation.

IMO this video is SO much a propaganda piece, that it begs the question of Who is trying to sell What to Whom and for What tactical reason?

One last point. Venom is highly reactive. This basically means that there are parts of all enzymes that will want to bond with elements (usually oxygen, but also chlorine and others) that will reduce its electrical potential. That is to say, make it more ‘relaxed’ and far less reactive. Thus the idea of dumping any venom, snake or other critter, into a water system is silly. Venom would encounter vast amounts of oxygen, chlorine and all the other chemicals currently polluting the planet. It would be very very unlikely that the venom would survive in a reactive state that would be able to injure your body. And, if the venom was made into a more water stable product, by that very process, it would no longer be reactive enough to cause harm.

Mike Adams is wrong.

In fact he is providing an example of an “unwarranted conclusion”. He says that “If city water could denature King Cobra snake venom, they all snakebites could be successfully treated with water,…”
This is a prime example of an unwarranted conclusion. He equates treatment for SNAKE BITES where the venom is INJECTED into a human, with venom being poured into public water supplies.
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These are not the same thing, Mike. Not even close.

Shall we examine the part of the venom being full strength in the snake bite versus being deliberately diluted massively? Shall we examine the idea that the human body, where the snake injects its venom is NOT filled with chlorine, and oxygen, and is very unlikely to go through a deliberate oxygenation process, unlike public water supplies. So readers can see that Mike has no discernment, no nuance in his thinking here. Further there is this leap to equivalency of response in two, completely different environments, injecting a known poison versus diluting it massively into public water & hoping it would still be effective.

And, need we examine the idea that IF snake venom was all that powerful in water, all the snakes would have had to do would be to learn to swim & leave mouth open & all the critters in the lake would die & become easy dinners. We don’t see a lot of that behavior in snakes.

My question to Mike is WHY? Why do you want to promote this idea? What is in it for you? Are you aware of how bad it has made so many people feel? WTF dude?

Ok, your turn, Mike. Are you really going to put more lipstick on this pig & try another kiss?
 
Watched the first Dr. Ardis/Stew Peters presentation and 18 min. of Part 2:


Can't stay up any later to watch the rest. It's startling to say the least and now I'm wondering if there really is a Sars-Cov-2 virus since treatments against snake venom work to treat it plus nicotine. Just too tired to process any more of this, but WOW - what a revelation!
 
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