Descriptions of the "afterlife"/5th Density
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Yes, this thread offers great faith with the passage beyond the veil, and may your mum's new journey have brought her much peace and joy. To know also that the connection you have with you mum, although not physical now, never ends.
Take good care of yourself, too.
memeontheroof
Padawan Learner
Yes, this thread offers great faith with the passage beyond the veil, and may your mum's new journey have brought her much peace and joy. To know also that the connection you have with you mum, although not physical now, never ends.
Take good care of yourself, too.
Thank you and yes it is a great thread for me to be reading right now and I will take care of myself tooYes, this thread offers great faith with the passage beyond the veil, and may your mum's new journey have brought her much peace and joy. To know also that the connection you have with you mum, although not physical now, never ends.
Take good care of yourself, too.
Really sorry to hear this, memeontheroof. My condolences. May your mother rest in peace on the other side.
Likewise sorry to hear this news take care.My condolences on the loss of your mother, memeontheroof
memeontheroof
Padawan Learner
Thank you aragornReally sorry to hear this, memeontheroof. My condolences. May your mother rest in peace on the other side.
Menna
The Living Force
From what I read we are all part of or connected to "The One" ... it wants to gain wisdom...For what purpose who knows? So to successfully gain wisdom there is no better way than to branch oneself out and permeate all experiences for knowing and gathering to bring back to the one. Don't know what this whole thing is for.... That is all I can really add at the moment to what have already been said here such as different, levels or densities after death and how intention or want will dictate where you go and what you do next...
What I wonder is if you are ment to be here now and have wisdom to gain and a purpose can you "use" your "job" of gaining wisdom against itself to take risks for the experience? Are "Things" keeping you on track that are outside of your actions and control and awareness? If you are part of the one and the one wants something I would surmise that it can intervien to make sure or help it get done?
What I wonder is if you are ment to be here now and have wisdom to gain and a purpose can you "use" your "job" of gaining wisdom against itself to take risks for the experience? Are "Things" keeping you on track that are outside of your actions and control and awareness? If you are part of the one and the one wants something I would surmise that it can intervien to make sure or help it get done?
memeontheroof
Padawan Learner
Thank you Jebra. and I am glad she is no longer suffering she was so very sick!So sorry to hear of your loss memeontheroof
With the pandemic I came to another city to be with my parents and help them to get food and medicine because they could not go out to shop, in 2020 they were forbidden to enter the stores "for their health". After 2021 with the injections and added to other circumstances, I am staying here with them for an indefinite period of time.
Since I arrived, around April 2020, my dad expressed his desire to stop living, there have been similar conversations, what I have been able to tell him is to concentrate on the perfection of mother nature, fortunately they live in an area where you can appreciate the greenery .... It is a residential area but the trees stand out as opposed to where I lived, where the concrete, buildings and traffic were overhanging.
My dad is hyper tense and has had a pacemaker since 2014.... There was a lot of family pressure to get the Covid shot. He didn't want to take it and he didn't take it.
Since I arrived - even with the Plandemia - I have also seen how his health has been deteriorating, my mom tells whoever comes or on the phone that my dad has a lot of desire to live... It seems to me that this is a form of denial.
Around August 2021, we started with diapers and that, physiologically and psychologically, has also made him worse... He has also been very affected by the fact that no visitors come - as they used to - because of the terror of the Covid, not from him but from the fear of the others.
By December last year, we had managed - basically my mom and I - who are the ones who take care of him most of the time to get him to go downstairs and go out to Christmas events.... He wasn't wearing a diaper as much anymore. He was also encouraged, because one of his brothers was coming to visit him.... There were 4 siblings, 2 passed away before the pandemic, one in 2018 and one in 2019.... One was his twin.
But 2022 came... And he got worse again.... I went to another city for 10 days when I returned, I found him very different and much more deteriorated.... The diaper was not the constant, but the duck... Portable urine container...
My brother was home but he was sick and said it was possibly Covid without any test.
So for 20 days we took care of 2 people.
In mid-late January, my mom told us that my dad had already said goodbye to her... Three days later, my dad asked us to take him to a hospital because he felt like he was dying. My mom and I took him, I was the only one who went in because of Covid's protocols.... After several tests, blood, urine, chest x-ray and electrocardiogram... It did not reflect that he should be admitted and we were sent back.
About 10 days passed and my mom woke us up in the early morning, my dad said goodbye to me and my brother.
It was funny, nice the next day.... My dad wakes up, sits on the bed, I see him confused... he looks at us and asks.... "Who am I?"... My mom answers him... "It's you, (his name).... My dad answers: "I'm not dead? "... No, my mom tells him ...." Why? "... My mom tells him that it is not his decision, but it is until God wills.... I looked at my dad who remained angry.
Days have passed and my dad keeps saying goodbye to people.
My dad is almost deaf and almost blind, communication is difficult.... Sometimes I better write to him so he can read what I want to say.
An aunt has recommended me to "talk to him" about his possible fear of death, what if he has already seen his parents or his siblings in dreams or in some other way.... I asked her once, she is not afraid of death and she has not seen them.
Since last week a doctor came because he looked worse and worse, a family consensus was reached.... The detail that I see is that my father is not familiar with allopathy... He has been taking 3 medications for almost 10 years for hypertension.... The rest has been with homeopathy. He has had 3 pneumonias....
Then this doctor prescribed him about 9 medications plus 2 nebulizations...it's too much!.... He says he has pneumonia.... He's been taking them for 3 days... I see him drugged.... I have no experience in seeing him like this... For me, my dad is sometimes.... And when he is, he behaves like a baby....
I feed him, I've had to make his food more baby-like.... And the other time, while I was feeding him his porridge - soup - stew... I thought about that part, about dying as children.... Like angels they are born, like angels they die.
My question, after all this talk and because once, with an aunt who had no will to live and I related it as suicide.... If there is any prayer for... What to help him to leave, because that's how he has expressed it.... He hasn't told me to pray for him for that goal, though.
Today I stayed on duty at night, he is very anxious, I prayed for him to rest.....
An aunt told me, you have to pray.... I ask her what for? For his health to get better? Or for him to go away? That he may die in peace? She tells me... "to chase away the spirits that feed on his suffering".... The pains in his body, the confusion, being mad, etc.
Thanks for reading.
I am at lost, is it really when God decides or when, my father decides?
Since I arrived, around April 2020, my dad expressed his desire to stop living, there have been similar conversations, what I have been able to tell him is to concentrate on the perfection of mother nature, fortunately they live in an area where you can appreciate the greenery .... It is a residential area but the trees stand out as opposed to where I lived, where the concrete, buildings and traffic were overhanging.
My dad is hyper tense and has had a pacemaker since 2014.... There was a lot of family pressure to get the Covid shot. He didn't want to take it and he didn't take it.
Since I arrived - even with the Plandemia - I have also seen how his health has been deteriorating, my mom tells whoever comes or on the phone that my dad has a lot of desire to live... It seems to me that this is a form of denial.
Around August 2021, we started with diapers and that, physiologically and psychologically, has also made him worse... He has also been very affected by the fact that no visitors come - as they used to - because of the terror of the Covid, not from him but from the fear of the others.
By December last year, we had managed - basically my mom and I - who are the ones who take care of him most of the time to get him to go downstairs and go out to Christmas events.... He wasn't wearing a diaper as much anymore. He was also encouraged, because one of his brothers was coming to visit him.... There were 4 siblings, 2 passed away before the pandemic, one in 2018 and one in 2019.... One was his twin.
But 2022 came... And he got worse again.... I went to another city for 10 days when I returned, I found him very different and much more deteriorated.... The diaper was not the constant, but the duck... Portable urine container...
My brother was home but he was sick and said it was possibly Covid without any test.
So for 20 days we took care of 2 people.
In mid-late January, my mom told us that my dad had already said goodbye to her... Three days later, my dad asked us to take him to a hospital because he felt like he was dying. My mom and I took him, I was the only one who went in because of Covid's protocols.... After several tests, blood, urine, chest x-ray and electrocardiogram... It did not reflect that he should be admitted and we were sent back.
About 10 days passed and my mom woke us up in the early morning, my dad said goodbye to me and my brother.
It was funny, nice the next day.... My dad wakes up, sits on the bed, I see him confused... he looks at us and asks.... "Who am I?"... My mom answers him... "It's you, (his name).... My dad answers: "I'm not dead? "... No, my mom tells him ...." Why? "... My mom tells him that it is not his decision, but it is until God wills.... I looked at my dad who remained angry.
Days have passed and my dad keeps saying goodbye to people.
My dad is almost deaf and almost blind, communication is difficult.... Sometimes I better write to him so he can read what I want to say.
An aunt has recommended me to "talk to him" about his possible fear of death, what if he has already seen his parents or his siblings in dreams or in some other way.... I asked her once, she is not afraid of death and she has not seen them.
Since last week a doctor came because he looked worse and worse, a family consensus was reached.... The detail that I see is that my father is not familiar with allopathy... He has been taking 3 medications for almost 10 years for hypertension.... The rest has been with homeopathy. He has had 3 pneumonias....
Then this doctor prescribed him about 9 medications plus 2 nebulizations...it's too much!.... He says he has pneumonia.... He's been taking them for 3 days... I see him drugged.... I have no experience in seeing him like this... For me, my dad is sometimes.... And when he is, he behaves like a baby....
I feed him, I've had to make his food more baby-like.... And the other time, while I was feeding him his porridge - soup - stew... I thought about that part, about dying as children.... Like angels they are born, like angels they die.
My question, after all this talk and because once, with an aunt who had no will to live and I related it as suicide.... If there is any prayer for... What to help him to leave, because that's how he has expressed it.... He hasn't told me to pray for him for that goal, though.
Today I stayed on duty at night, he is very anxious, I prayed for him to rest.....
An aunt told me, you have to pray.... I ask her what for? For his health to get better? Or for him to go away? That he may die in peace? She tells me... "to chase away the spirits that feed on his suffering".... The pains in his body, the confusion, being mad, etc.
Thanks for reading.
I am at lost, is it really when God decides or when, my father decides?
I recently found the two sessions that discuss the above topic and thought I'd share them here in case it may be of further interest/assistance to others here:
Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
Hi, hope you're doing well and can face the situation
In my view, it's lessons till the end and nothing more...
Your aunt seems right here, if you are aware of this fact you can consciously accompany him.
I'm living alone with my mother (aged 82), no one else but me will face her last days in this world and this thread is more than helpful to be prepared for those... Thank you ALL
Wandering Star
The Living Force
I was going to respond with something similar.
Patience and lots of encouragement.
And remember the law of three, (I am going to paraphrase): "There is good, there is evil and there is the specific situation that defines it".
SevenFeathers
Dagobah Resident
If he wants to leave, but is still hanging on, it's important that you just be with him, to listen and touch as possible. There may be something he hasn't said yet, or someone he still wants to say "goodbye" to. If you are there listening, you may be able to help him in some way. But as for prayers, why not just say a loving prayer, for your dad's highest good (not in your opinion, but whatever his soul says it is). I know it is painful to see him in this situation, but dealing with it may be part of YOUR lessons, who knows?
Love and hugs to you all.
