Hello, I don't think there is a fully dedicated thread to this topic, I couldn't find one if there is, apologies, the mods can merge it if that's the case; But since it's been mentioned in the last couple sessions one way or another, and now having Pierre as part of it as
Cosmic Force, maybe we can discuss or share ideas more about the contemplation zone or 5th density, funny enough in my experience this subject is what initiated the ''spiritual'' discovery in my life years ago when began reading and researching about reincarnation and past lives, which then adding to the research of the subject of extraterrestrial beings, it leaded me to the Cassiopaean experiment and this forum much later on.
In the last session (January 13th 2024), I asked:
Q: (irjO) In the book "Many Lives, Many Masters" by Brian Weiss, basically describes the journey of how he, being a moderate psychiatrist, discovered the process of reincarnation through patients under hypnosis. In the "between" life moments, patient's voices changed, and he no longer was in communication with the patient, but some beings called "The masters" who were giving him some universal knowledge. Who are the "masters" he communicated with when a patient under hypnosis went to the "between lives" moment?
A: The 5D self.
Q: (Joe) Do you merge with your fifth density yourself when you go to 5D?
A: Eventually or partially depending on your plan or destiny.
The book itself, which can be found on
Amazon, has the following description:
As a traditional psychotherapist, Dr. Brian Weiss was astonished and skeptical when one of his patients began recalling past-life traumas that seemed to hold the key to her recurring nightmares and anxiety attacks. His skepticism was eroded, however, when she began to channel messages from the “space between lives,” which contained remarkable revelations about Dr. Weiss’ family and his dead son. Using past-life therapy, he was able to cure the patient and embark on a new, more meaningful phase of his own career. With more than one million copies in print, Many Lives, Many Masters is one of the breakthrough texts in alternative psychotherapy and remains as provocative and timeless as it was when first published.
The good thing about the book, is about the skepticism this Doctor had and how he began to discover the process of reincarnation thanks to these communications with the ''masters'' or that's how he called them, and the information they provided. Now, I read his other books too, but after the first one, he went to the route of 'love and light' and 'new age' theme, the reason why I would only recommend his first one which is this one I posted.
Now, on the previous session when we got to communicate with Pierre, the following was mentioned:
(Pierre) Love you all so much. I see how you loved me now and I am sorry that I was so difficult for so long. I am constantly trying to communicate but it is not so simple. This is a strange state to be in when there were so many things I wanted to get done.
Later on:
Q: (Joe): What are you doing every day, Pierre? [laughter]
(Andromeda) What's your schedule like there?
(Joe) Like what are you up to? What do you do?
A: (Pierre) Well, it is like dreaming in a way because there really is no tracking of time. It seems not to exist, but I don't understand that yet.
Q: (L) Do you have periods of time where you're like, not really aware of what's going on?
A: (Pierre) No.
Q: (L) So you are aware all the time of what's going on, at least with yourself?
A: (Pierre) Yes.
Many 'other side' experiences I read sounds similar to Pierre's description of being like in a dream state, I think he meant like in a dream you are in a place, but then you can be in another place the next second, and you move according to where you think you are or want to be if that makes sense;
It reminded me a little bit of the scene in the last Harry Potter movie where Harry was dead for a moment, and he went on to a place that was familiar to him, such as the King Cross rail station:
Q: (L) Are you aware of us all the time?
A: (Pierre) No.
Q: (L) So, you have to think about us to be aware of us. Is that it?
A: (Pierre) Yes.
Q: (L) And what makes you think about us? Is it because we think about you, or we reference you, or we have you on our mind, or something like that? Is that close?
A: (Pierre) Yes.
Q: (Joe) And can you see us?
A: (Pierre) Yes.
Q: (Joe) And are there any other people around that you're hanging out with, that you spend time with, or you know...?
A: (Pierre) Sometimes.
I used to watch videos on YouTube about this young ''medium' called Tyler Henry, it is a regular type of reality show based on Hollywood people and their dead relatives, but it was a little bit of an interesting show nevertheless because Tyler has (so it shows in the series, real or not, I can't really say) the capacity of connect with beings on 5D related to the person he is in front with, just an example of hundreds of his videos:
This is not just with celebrities, but also with anyone he does a reading with.
The thing about this, is that Tyler mentions that the way passed on people see us most of the time, is through our Eyes, and they can always see and check on us when we think about them, which would correlate with what Pierre was describing. I would imagine it is not that simple but something among the lines. But also in the show, Henry tells the people he is doing the reading to, that the dead relatives can't communicate easily but try to do any type of signals like using objects or animals sometimes to send signals to the living relatives. I could understand the frustration of a 5th density being trying to communicate with a 3rd density being.
A: (Pierre) Mostly everything you have learned via Cs is the way it is. What I see now is the great noise surrounding Earth that makes it so difficult to get a clear and true message.
Could be a reason of why communication between 5th density and 3rd density is not that easy, perhaps lost of real spiritualism, lack of meditation, and in a materialism driven world where even religion is distorted, and lies are everywhere, it creates layers of obstacles for communication between 3rd and 4rth 5th and 6th density realities.
Now the other day as recommended on this thread:
Astral City (Nasso Lar) a good description of the 5th density ?
I watched the movie, and it was really good, the description the forum member Goemon extracted of it was:
°The film is an adaptation of the 1944 book of the same name, said to be dictated by the spirit Andre Luiz
°Detailed drawings of the city "Our Home" as well as the architecture of the buildings, ministries and homes, were created by the medium Heigorina Cunha through her observations made during her alleged travels outside of the body in March 1979, led and guided by the spirit Lucius. These drawings served as inspiration to create the visual architecture of the city, that you can see in the movie. His drawings have been clarified and confirmed by Chico Xavier that this was really the spiritual city of Rio de Janeiro called "Our Home".
The trailer:
Reminded me of this other video I saw on YouTube about the experience of a woman who was in a coma and experienced a bit of the passing on, and what would you see, although it wasn't clear if it was indeed 5th D or just a state of being previous to 5D:
With her description and the one from the movie Astral City, it reminds me Pierre's description on the same session:
Q: (Joe) And when you look around, what's your environment like?
A: (Pierre) Fields and mountains and little houses and castles.
Q: (L) So in other words, what you're seeing in your environment is what you're used to, what you like, what you imagine Heaven to be like. Is that it?
A: (Pierre) Yes.
Also, another movie similar but goes more along the lines of our inner being after passing on is
What Dreams May Come:
I posted in the '
Questions to Pierre' thread the following:
Now that we are on this subject; One of the questions I would like to ask to the Cs is if our perception of 5th density would be something similar of the concept presented in the movie Astral City (I recommend it btw)
And in the case the answer is ‘yes’, then that could somehow confirm that the perception of 5th density depends on the density you come from, for example 5th density for a 4th density being would be/look totally familiar to the 4th density reality which for us (3rd density being) would look very alien or incomprehensible, so in other words 5th density would look for us like something similar to Earth in many aspects but without time/space restrictions, if that makes sense.
Without fully touching on the subject of our 5th densities selves yet, we can get a little bit of an idea on how 5D works from our 3rd density perspective. Now, the contemplation zone as described by the Cs and our 5th density selves still being in 5th density while we are experiencing our lives or multiple lives at the same time (since time doesn't really exist);
Session: February 25th 2023
Q: (irjO) Can a soul or being, be still at 5th density contemplating, while at the same "time" part of its consciousness reincarnates and lives in one life or multiple ones?
A: Yes
Is still hard to comprehend in many aspects because of my lineal thinking (at least for me), I was also thinking, that maybe our ''higher being'' is not always the 'me/we from the future' as 6th densities beings but also could be our own selves from 5th density?
There is so much more to this subject, specially from the old sessions, but I'll leave it for now.
Edit: Fixed typo and video links.
