DMSA for heavy metal detox - how long available?

[Gaby]

Another question: which of the additional procuts from the list below would be the most important? I'm asking this because I can't afford all of them right now. Or would it be wiser to wait until I have them all?

DMSA Succimer, Chemet 200mg. Three times (just for the first 3 days of each 14 days cycle)

Vitamin C, Buffered ascorbic acid powder 2-3 grams. Twice

Alpha lipoic acid. Thioctic acid 100mg. Twice

Zinc 50mg. Once (not with food)

Selenium 200mcg. Once

Vitamin B6. As pyridoxal 5 phospate 50mg. Once (in the morning)

Vitamin E 1000 IU. Once

Melatonin 1mg-6mg. Once (at bedtime)

Taurine 200mg. Twice or three times

Reduced glutathione (or NAC 600mgx2) 100mg. Three times

It will be wiser to have them all. But you could probably do without melatonin, and if you find a multivitamin with 50mg of zinc and 200 of selenium, and 50 mg of B6, that could do as well. Don't get glutathione, get NAC instead. And if the Vitamin E 800 IU is more economical, go for that one, you could get away with one of 400 IU as well.

 

[aragorn]

Thanx Psyche for the quick reply! We use Solgar's VM-75 multivitamin, it's high in vitamin B's but lacks proper amounts of selenium and zinc. I'll order those separately too.

And the Captomer was okay I guess?

 

[Gaby]

Thanx Psyche for the quick reply! We use Solgar's VM-75 multivitamin, it's high in vitamin B's but lacks proper amounts of selenium and zinc. I'll order those separately too.

And the Captomer was okay I guess?

Sorry, I missed it, I was too quick. It doesn't have enough DMSA for purposes of this protocol, but if this the only you can get, I'll say go for it. That source is very good and I'm sure it will still help.

 

[aragorn]

Thanx Psyche for the quick reply! We use Solgar's VM-75 multivitamin, it's high in vitamin B's but lacks proper amounts of selenium and zinc. I'll order those separately too.

And the Captomer was okay I guess?

Sorry, I missed it, I was too quick. It doesn't have enough DMSA for purposes of this protocol, but if this the only you can get, I'll say go for it. That source is very good and I'm sure it will still help.

Nah, I want the 'real stuff'! :) I'll take it from dmsachelation.com then. I thought I could get all products from iherb.com, but Thorne is the only DMSA they have. Thanks again.

 

[Ageeva]

Just had two of my four mercury fillings replaced yesterday :D By the end of next week I should have a mouth free of mercury. However the dentist noticed something of a red flag when he was working on my teeth. He told me I had excessive salivation (he used six times as many soakage bungs than normal) and asked me if I had noticed saliva on my pillow when I woke up ( I had, not all the time but it happens). He said this is a real sign of mercury toxicity in my body :O. As soon as I came home I searched for symptoms of mercury poisoning and sure enough there it was: excessive salivation

HEAD, NECK, ORAL CAVITY DISORDERS
bleeding gums
alveolar bone loss
loosening of teeth
excessive salivation
foul breath
metallic taste
burning sensation, with tingling of lips, face
tissue pigmentation (amalgam tattoo of gums)
leukoplakia
stomatitis (sores in the mouth)
ulceration of gingiva, palate, tongue
dizziness/acute, chronic vertigo
ringing in the ears
hearing difficulties
speech and visual impairment
-glaucoma
-restricted, dim vision

(From www.mercurypoisoned.com/symptoms)

Of course mercury poisoning is systemic which leads to a huge number of symptoms and these could be caused by other factors so I won't know until I've done my heavy metal DMSA detox. And I'm already preparing for that with the normal detox and supplementation according to the excellent research on this and other threads :)

 

[aragorn]

I've just started the DMSA-protocol today. So far things are going pretty smoothly, no side effects. I could be imagining things, but my thinking feels clearer already - is it possible to notice benefits this early? Well, I'll have to see how I feel the following days. But I'm glad I finally got started. :)

 

[Ollie]

On Monday I finished an additional two rounds (7 and 8) of the DMSA mercury detox. For week 7, I often felt spaced out in my head, and mentally exhausted by mid-day. On visiting my mother at the included weekend she complained that I appeared to be less than my normal self, a little ‘short’ with her. The most significant aspect of both weeks were dry saunas, or at least considerably drier than normal. For week 8, very little happened additionally other than waking early and being slightly constipated – both of which may be explained by diet effects.

That’s it, well at least until after the end of the Winter Solstice break. Not sure if I’ve done enough, am clear, or whether another week or two are required.

 

[davey72]

The seller on ebay is the same one I was using on amazon. The product is fine and the price per capsule is pretty decent. Better to have too much than not enough. If it is kept cool and dark until you are ready to use it, I think it will be okay.

I really can't stress enough how important I think doing a mercury/metals detox is. It has been like a revelation for me that I can actually have my brain back not to mention longer and longer spells of feeling pretty good!

Ya'll, please start de-toxing now... you are going to need all your senses intact... and you will need each other to be able to perform optimally, too. Start today!

Thanks for the info. I was thinking of getting one of those detox kits from the health food store. I don't suppose they have any DMSA in them, though. I will probably have to find it by itself. I was noticing lately, how much my concentration has lapsed since i was younger. I was thinking , just the other day, about the fog that seems to be over my brain. I think i will check this out tomorrow. I have to say, this forum has really inspired me 1000 fold lately. I have never been a person to join groups, especially if they are religiuos in nature, but ever since i came across the c's material, by chance, it just resonated with me.
Probably getting redundant coming from me, but, thanks again ;D

 

[aragorn]

I just wanted to report, that my first week on the DMSA-protocol is going very well. I've had no major side effects other than my stool getting very loose, don't know if that's normal. One quite interesting thing is that my dream activity has really gone through the roof. I've had such vivid, strong, strange and detailed dreams the whole week! I would like to share the two most 'significant' ones:

Dream (Wed-Thu night): I go to the bathroom and something suddenly hits me in the head. When I look in the mirror there's a huge bloody hole in my forehead, right in the middle (the 'third eye' spot). I look at it and feel surprisingly calm. This feeling of a hole in my forehead lasted quite long throughout the day.

Dream (Thu-Fri night): I'm not sure if this was a dream or if I was awake, maybe a combination of both. Anyway, I suddenly felt like my whole brain was being scrambled, like someone (or myself) was 'rearranging' things up there. This felt really unpleasant and it did take quite long. I remember thinking that I should just endure the process, because it was a good thing. But afterwards I got a bit worried, since I wasn't sure what really had happened - was this some strange sort of attack.

Well, maybe these strange dreams are just symptoms of the DMSA cleaning stuff up in the brain, dunno. But today, after the second 'dream' I described, I've felt really groggy and tired; I had a really hard time concentrating with my teaching today.

 

[davey72]

I don't have any mercury fillings and have only had about four vaccinations (tetanus, MMR, HepBx2) but I used to play with my brother's soldering iron kit when I was a kid. I'm not exactly sure of the exact ingredients in the metal stick used with it but I do believe it has some lead or tin in it. I used to let it drop on the skin on my calf and was amazed that I didn't get burnt. Very stupid, experimental kid I was. Later the family dog head-butted me on my calf and I still have bump there because it never healed right. So, I'll be getting some of that DMSA too.

Thanks for the info.

They do have lead free solder now, but most of it contains both lead and tin.

 

[davey72]

Sorry if this has been asked, and i missed it, but does it cleanse fluoride, as well?

 

[davey72]

Many practicing physicians remember giving mercury-containing medications with the understanding that the tox­icity of such medication was tolerable. This indifference to The re-methylation of homocysteine (sec page 143). the possible negative effects of mercury goes to some amazing extremes, including the use of mercury-containing thermometers, which if spilled could contaminate a household with what nowadays are considered dangerous amounts of mercury vapor.

EDIT: sorry,i guess i forgot the last quotations. The following is from davey72 , not Psyche link. not sure how to fix that.

Hmm. I used to play with mercury from thermostats, etc, as a child. Nobody told me it was dangerous; Not to mention having had so many mercury amalgam fillings through my life that i wouldn't know where to begin to count.
Looks like i have a lot of work to do regarding detox.

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[Ollie]

I just wanted to report, that my first week on the DMSA-protocol is going very well. I've had no major side effects other than my stool getting very loose, don't know if that's normal. One quite interesting thing is that my dream activity has really gone through the roof. ...
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Well, maybe these strange dreams are just symptoms of the DMSA cleaning stuff up in the brain, dunno. But today, after the second 'dream' I described, I've felt really groggy and tired; I had a really hard time concentrating with my teaching today.

What you've described above are all symptoms of the DMSA Mercury detox for some people, including me. :)

 

[aragorn]

I just wanted to report, that my first week on the DMSA-protocol is going very well. I've had no major side effects other than my stool getting very loose, don't know if that's normal. One quite interesting thing is that my dream activity has really gone through the roof. ...
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Well, maybe these strange dreams are just symptoms of the DMSA cleaning stuff up in the brain, dunno. But today, after the second 'dream' I described, I've felt really groggy and tired; I had a really hard time concentrating with my teaching today.

What you've described above are all symptoms of the DMSA Mercury detox for some people, including me. :)

Thanks T, that's good to know - makes me less worried. I naively thought that the symptoms would only occur on the 3 days when one takes the DMSA, but it seems that the detoxing process is 'fully alive' during the 11 days in between. Some new symptoms have emerged that might, or might not be related to my heavy metal detoxing: nosebleeds, muscle weakness and shivering(coldness).

 

[aragorn]

My second round of DMSA has gone pretty well, I've just ended the second DMSA-portion. The first day (of 3) I had a pretty nasty headache, but otherwise the symptoms have been quite tolerable. The only thing that's annoying is this yucky taste of metal in my mouth, but I take that as an indicator that something is happening - the metals are 'moving'. I seem to require more sleep, and my sleep is deeper. My stomach is still upset - loose, but I rather have it this way than suffer from constipation, which could be dangerous during detoxing.

I only have like 4 pills of DMSA left. I'm wondering if I should take them at the end of this second cycle or wait until I can get some more?