DMSA for heavy metal detox - how long available?
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mada85
The Cosmic Force
Laurentien said:
Thanks for the reminder, Laurentien. I think I read the same thing somewhere but had forgotten it.
monksgirl said:
If you read through this thread I think you will find that some people have used DMSA while still having amalgam fillings, while others have waited until all amalgams have been removed. The main point of debate seems to be whether the chelation agent pulls mercury from the teeth and into the body. You could say that even if this is the case, the DMSA will carry it out of the body, but on the other hand, by waiting until the amalgams have been removed, it makes the job of detox easier as the source of mercury has been removed. I think it probably depends on how symptomatic one is of mercury poisoning, or one's eagerness to begin!
I noticed an interesting phenomenon after having just two amalgams removed. Previously I was easily able to tolerate 10-12 grams of vitamin C daily, and could take 2.5 – 4 grams first thing in the morning, all without reaching the bowel tolerance level. Now, I reach the bowel tolerance level about 30 minutes after taking 2.5 grams first thing in the morning, and can only tolerate a maximum of 4 – 5 grams daily. It seems that the big bad filling that was removed was really causing a lot of metabolic stress.
Psyche said:
That sounds good.
For Europe I found one page which sells this product:
_http://www.liquid-zeolite.eu/index.htm
Compared to DMSA it is relatively cheap (for 3 bottles a 30ml you pay 50€ (68$), which would last with the normal dose for about 180 days), if you following the protocol by Sydney Baker (I hope the same protocol is then usable: with NAC and the other supplements).
At least for me it would be affordable and worth a try.
Divide by Zero
The Living Force
Thanks for the link Legolas!
I've heard that the DMSA protocol causes weakness/pain between cycles and perhaps this isn't as strong? My worry is that I don't have that kind of time to spend between cycles as I work a physical outdoor job which requires concentration too for safety.
I also have 3 and a half fillings in my mouth. Half because one is on the side of a tooth. They are quite old, and I have heard that older fillings are less of a problem because they have leeched already?
I've heard that the DMSA protocol causes weakness/pain between cycles and perhaps this isn't as strong? My worry is that I don't have that kind of time to spend between cycles as I work a physical outdoor job which requires concentration too for safety.
I also have 3 and a half fillings in my mouth. Half because one is on the side of a tooth. They are quite old, and I have heard that older fillings are less of a problem because they have leeched already?
mada85
The Cosmic Force
Divide by Zero said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylnQ-T7oiA
In the above YouTube video, you can see how much mercury vapour an amalgam filling releases. The tooth shown in the video is, I believe, 50 years old. Thus it appears that age is no guarantee of safety with mercury-based fillings.
On this YouTube page: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=amalgam+filling+mercury+vapor&aq=f you will find links to many videos about mercury in dental filligs.
I started my first DMSA cycle yesterday. I tried the Thorne product for 5 or 6 cycles and had no results so I'm using the Synergy brand suggested by this thread. I have been gluten-free for more than 5 years and dairy free for 3 month. I've been using the FIR sauna for 2 years, so felt I was ready for this. I had mercury fillings in all of my molars since I was about 10. I had the last removed 5 years ago. I've noticed such a decline in my memory and energy levels the last year or two, even with all of the dietary changes. The foggy brain seems to have intensified since yesterday and a headache last night, which I rarely experience. And foul expulsions of gaseous matter!
I also do EE regularly which I think is helping me focus at work. Thank you for this amazing information and for everyone's input and experience. It keeps me going some days. Such a great forum, and the first one I have ever joined.
I also do EE regularly which I think is helping me focus at work. Thank you for this amazing information and for everyone's input and experience. It keeps me going some days. Such a great forum, and the first one I have ever joined.
mcb
The Living Force
I was just reviewing the (US) FDA warning about chelation products that was issued a few months ago (_http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm228685.htm). It is interesting to notice how "concerned" the FDA is about the safety of OTC chelation products, and how they in fact allow all kinds of high-profit prescription drugs to be sold on the basis of rigged clinical trials and other research performed to order by people being paid by the companies producing the drugs. Apparently, "unproven" products are too dangerous for the public to even try but other drugs that have been proven to be dangerous are OK as long as fake science exists that shows them to be safe.
While I have long heard stories about what goes on in the industry, the book Anatomy of an Epidemic (see this thread) was still quite shocking. Dr. Hyman has also recently written briefly but more broadly about the situation (_http://drhyman.com/dangerous-spin-doctors-7-steps-to-protect-yourself-from-deception-2407/).
I am wondering in light of the FDA warning if it might be a good idea still to "stock up."
While I have long heard stories about what goes on in the industry, the book Anatomy of an Epidemic (see this thread) was still quite shocking. Dr. Hyman has also recently written briefly but more broadly about the situation (_http://drhyman.com/dangerous-spin-doctors-7-steps-to-protect-yourself-from-deception-2407/).
I am wondering in light of the FDA warning if it might be a good idea still to "stock up."
I forgot to mention in my previous post that gluthathione is no longer available in Canada. It cannot be imported and health food stores can no longer sell it. I think you can get it with a prescription from a doctor or naturopath, but since I don't go to either I cannot say for sure. I aso cannot get 5-HTP from iherb, have to buy it at twice the price up here since it is not allowed across the border. The government seems to be restricting more and more of the items.
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In my case , this symptom diminished at every cycle. By the fourth it was almost gone. My wife didn't suffered it as bad as me, so the effect is different from one individual to another.
Thank for the info, I'm going to check at my health store if they have any left and buy some reserve. I know that they have bought a good quantity last year, they ordered it for me, if you need any let me know Bluefyre. I live in Quebec and can easily send it to you.
In my case , this symptom diminished at every cycle. By the fourth it was almost gone. My wife didn't suffered it as bad as me, so the effect is different from one individual to another.
Thank for the info, I'm going to check at my health store if they have any left and buy some reserve. I know that they have bought a good quantity last year, they ordered it for me, if you need any let me know Bluefyre. I live in Quebec and can easily send it to you.
Laurentian, the health food store I shop at told me that as of December 1st they were no longer allowed to sell it. Since I'm in BC maybe it's different, but I think it's Canada-wide. So even if they had it, I don't think they can sell it. Thank goodness for NAC!
Gandalf, that's good to know about the 5-htp. I have been hesitant to order it and have it confiscated at the border. I think I will try a bottle with my next order and see if it crosses. It has become one of my most important supplements. I discovered years ago I am what they like to call celiac, but from all of my reading on the forum, I think I'm just one of canaries in the mine. Because of a severely compromised digestive track (didn't discovery gluten intolerance until 50) I have suffered insomnia most of my life due to serotonin deficiency. It is still a miracle to me that I can go to bed and more frequently than not, sleep soundly for sometimes 7 hours. I've even started dreaming again. I have felt for years that my head was in some kind of jar just off to the left or right of my shoulders. I'm hoping the mercury detox will help as well. Thank you for your responses.
Gandalf, that's good to know about the 5-htp. I have been hesitant to order it and have it confiscated at the border. I think I will try a bottle with my next order and see if it crosses. It has become one of my most important supplements. I discovered years ago I am what they like to call celiac, but from all of my reading on the forum, I think I'm just one of canaries in the mine. Because of a severely compromised digestive track (didn't discovery gluten intolerance until 50) I have suffered insomnia most of my life due to serotonin deficiency. It is still a miracle to me that I can go to bed and more frequently than not, sleep soundly for sometimes 7 hours. I've even started dreaming again. I have felt for years that my head was in some kind of jar just off to the left or right of my shoulders. I'm hoping the mercury detox will help as well. Thank you for your responses.
I will check tomorrow if they have any in store and if I can buy it I will let you know.
