DMSA for heavy metal detox - how long available?

Laurentien said:
I'm starting dmsa tomorrow, I bought some reduced glutathione but now seeing your post Psyche should i drop it and take NAC instead or since I got both maybe use them together.

You can take both, the reduced glutathione will provide healing nourishment to the cells in your gut and the NAC will work more systemically.

Best!
 
Psyche said:
Laurentien said:
I'm starting dmsa tomorrow, I bought some reduced glutathione but now seeing your post Psyche should i drop it and take NAC instead or since I got both maybe use them together.

You can take both, the reduced glutathione will provide healing nourishment to the cells in your gut and the NAC will work more systemically.

Best!

Thank Psyche, I will take both then.
 
Psyche said:
Baker's protocol is the same one for mercury detox in autistic children:

DMSA
Vitamin C
Alpha lipoic acid
Zinc
Selenium
Vitamin B6
Vitamin E
Melatonin
Taurine
Reduced glutathione (Even if it doesn't get absorbed, apparently it helps to heal the gut, but we use NAC)

It is a two-week rotation with three days on DMSA and eleven days off. All of the supplements are taken every day, but the DMSA is taken only on days one through three of each cycle (200mg x 3, just for the first 3 days of each 14 days cycle). It is at least six cycles. More info on Baker's book: Detoxification and Healing.
I started DMSA detox yesterday. Baker recommends ALA ( 100 mg) and reduced glutathione ( 75 mg) 3 times a day . I don't have smaller capsules. Is it fine to take once with bigger dose instead of 3 smaller doses.
 
seek10 said:
I started DMSA detox yesterday. Baker recommends ALA ( 100 mg) and reduced glutathione ( 75 mg) 3 times a day . I don't have smaller capsules. Is it fine to take once with bigger dose instead of 3 smaller doses.

ALA 200mg per day is usually considered an effective dose for adults. Also, Baker's doses are based on a protocol for children with autism.

Here is a dose adjustment which can serve as a guide:

DMSA Succimer, Chemet 200mg. Three times (just for the first 3 days of each 14 days cycle)

Vitamin C, Buffered ascorbic acid powder 2-3 grams. Twice

Alpha lipoic acid. Thioctic acid 100mg. Twice

Zinc 50mg. Once (not with food)

Selenium 200mcg. Once

Vitamin B6. As pyridoxal 5 phospate 50mg. Once (in the morning)

Vitamin E 1000 IU. Once

Melatonin 1mg-6mg. Once (at bedtime)

Taurine 200mg. Twice or three times

Reduced glutathione (or NAC 600mgx2) 100mg. Three times

Two-week rotation with three days on DMSA and eleven days off. Take DMSA on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Take all of the supplements every day, but only take the DMSA on days one through three of each cycle. You should plan to complete at least six cycles. It is OK to interrupt the cycles of any reason. You may continue the supplements without the DMSA.
 
Psyche said:
Also, Baker's doses are based on a protocol for children with autism.

Here is a dose adjustment which can serve as a guide:

DMSA Succimer, Chemet 200mg. Three times (just for the first 3 days of each 14 days cycle)

Vitamin C, Buffered ascorbic acid powder 2-3 grams. Twice

Alpha lipoic acid. Thioctic acid 100mg. Twice

Zinc 50mg. Once (not with food)

Selenium 200mcg. Once

Vitamin B6. As pyridoxal 5 phospate 50mg. Once (in the morning)

Vitamin E 1000 IU. Once

Melatonin 1mg-6mg. Once (at bedtime)

Taurine 200mg. Twice or three times

Reduced glutathione (or NAC 600mgx2) 100mg. Three times

Two-week rotation with three days on DMSA and eleven days off. Take DMSA on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. Take all of the supplements every day, but only take the DMSA on days one through three of each cycle. You should plan to complete at least six cycles. It is OK to interrupt the cycles of any reason. You may continue the supplements without the DMSA.

thank you psyche
 
I'm on my second cycle of DMSA, following Baker's protocol. Today was my second day and I feel somewhat lethargic like when I have a fever. I also had no appetite this evening even after not eating lunch (which is rare for me), but when I prepared a nice plate of appetizing food I found myself scarfing it down. Go figure! I'm guessing that if these are the symptoms of detoxification I must be fairly toxic. Thing is, I have already taken two courses of chlorella/cilantro type chelators over the last year and a half or so, so there must be more to get out - assuming today's symptoms aren't a reaction to something else. In any case, it's time to get those darned amalgam fillings removed; do some 'heavy metal lifting', and help the process along in a more significant way.
 
Ennio said:
I'm on my second cycle of DMSA, following Baker's protocol. Today was my second day and I feel somewhat lethargic like when I have a fever. I also had no appetite this evening even after not eating lunch (which is rare for me), but when I prepared a nice plate of appetizing food I found myself scarfing it down. Go figure! I'm guessing that if these are the symptoms of detoxification I must be fairly toxic. Thing is, I have already taken two courses of chlorella/cilantro type chelators over the last year and a half or so, so there must be more to get out - assuming today's symptoms aren't a reaction to something else. In any case, it's time to get those darned amalgam fillings removed; do some 'heavy metal lifting', and help the process along in a more significant way.

Yeah, it does sound like it. Make sure to take enough water, vitamin C, keep your bowels clear (you must have a bowel movement at least every 12 hours when chelating) and if you can, do the FIR sauna (specially on DMSA days).

I know that chlorella is very popular for heavy metal chelation, although the people of autism.com removed it from their protocols after doing some studies with it and seeing that it didn't help in chelating. So there is a possibility that you are unloading your heavy metals just now.
 
Psyche said:
Make sure to take enough water, vitamin C, keep your bowels clear (you must have a bowel movement at least every 12 hours when chelating) and if you can, do the FIR sauna (specially on DMSA days).

That certainly makes sense. Next time I'll make time for the sauna.

Psyche said:
I know that chlorella is very popular for heavy metal chelation, although the people of autism.com removed it from their protocols after doing some studies with it and seeing that it didn't help in chelating. So there is a possibility that you are unloading your heavy metals just now.

Interesting. One likes to think that 'natural is better,' but that isn't always the case. Not sure if that applies here for certain since I didn't take any tests for toxicity before or after the courses, but the symptoms of this past weekend do indicate some detoxification taking place. Thanks for the tips, Psyche. :)
 
My first round of DMSA is complete :cool: . couple of observations

1. third day of the cycle, I started tasting some metallic taste on tongue, whether I am eating or not.
2. Generally I sweat after 30 minutes in sauna and today I sweated the moment I was in sauna and I couldn't stay in the sauna after 50 min. and sweated for 15 minutes after I came out. I think it is related to dmsa.

probably I had lot of mercury. One possible reason is my father was in charge of vaccinating for the people in our district and he did his job with great dedication. so, We got our dose .
 
I started my second round yesterday and like Ennio I felt lethargic all day, sometime literally falling asleep while reading. I felt a light headache in the first few hours after the first dose but it was gone by mid afternoon. The first round when quit smoothly, except for day 4 when I got sick after taking the supplement on a empty stomach. Every think when back out before breakfast, to much of a cocktail to fast :/, since I space them out specially the zinc that I take alone and later in the day. My wife is doing the DMSA detox as well, she had strong headache on day 3 that lasted for a good part of the day, very unusual for her, I don't remember her ever complaining of such. I'm taking a sauna on day 1 to 3 and every second day for the rest of the cycle.

2. Generally I sweat after 30 minutes in sauna and today I sweated the moment I was in sauna and I couldn't stay in the sauna after 50 min. and sweated for 15 minutes after I came out. I think it is related to dmsa.

I observed the same effect, I start sweating much faster and continue for 10 to 15 min. after. Before taking DMSA I would cool down in the shower and stop sweating but since beginning the detox, after the shower I still sweat for a few minutes.

This morning ( day 2 of 2nd round) I don't feel as tired as yesterday but it is still early in the day. Another thing, my DMSA smell like rotten eggs is this normal? It give us flatulence of the same "flavor" during day 1 to 3.
 
Laurentien said:
This morning ( day 2 of 2nd round) I don't feel as tired as yesterday but it is still early in the day. Another thing, my DMSA smell like rotten eggs is this normal? It give us flatulence of the same "flavor" during day 1 to 3.

Yeah, it stinks. Remember to take extra vitamin C if needed, that helps, also keep your bowels going, at least every 12 hours. If symptoms become unbearable, but out one dose, 200mg per two (instead of 3 times a day). Perhaps the next cycle a full dose will be tolerable.
 
Posté par: Psyche
Yeah, it stinks. Remember to take extra vitamin C if needed, that helps, also keep your bowels going, at least every 12 hours. If symptoms become unbearable, but out one dose, 200mg per two (instead of 3 times a day). Perhaps the next cycle a full dose will be tolerable.

Bowels movement are regular (every 12 or so hours), it is not unbearable but I slept in the guess bedroom last night for external consideration :lol:, today is less symptomatic but on the first round, it lasted for the first 4-5 days. I will take an extra dose of vitamin C and see if it help.

Thank Psyche, :flowers:
 
I’m seeking advice.

Having had a number of teeth removed that were too far gone or had too much mercury amalgam, with not enough tooth left in them, to replace just the amalgam, I need partial plates top and bottom so that I've got enough teeth to chew with. And I’ve got about four teeth which will have the mercury amalgam replaced, starting next week.

The options for the partial plates top and bottom are: acrylic or metal (chrome, cobalt, molybdium, silicon and manganese mix) at about twice the price. The latter has the advantage, for me, in that it is raised above the gum level. I’m seeking views on which is the better plate option to go for from both a health and a metaphysical perspective. My gut preference at the moment is for the metal plates.

And, I’ve started on the first round of the Baker DMSA detox protocol today. Thanks in anticipation of any help received.
 
I’ve completed three days of the first cycle of the Baker protocol using DMSA. On the day before I started I had the beginnings of a sore throat in the evening. On the first day of DMSA my throat felt better, although I had a slight headache – unusual for me. By the evening I felt exhausted, could do nothing mentally, yet had difficulty in getting to sleep. Day 2, cold gone, had a sense of being overwhelmed throughout the day, and felt washed out and exhausted by bedtime. Also, making elementary mistakes whilst cooking. By day 3 the cold was in full throw, and still is. Definitely drinking more water than usual. I guess something is happening!!!
 
Does anyone know if DMSA is still available in Canada? If so, is it available in any retail store (health food, pharmacy, etc?).

Thanks,
Gonzo
 
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