Donald Trump wins 2016 US presidential election

13 Twirling Triskeles said:
Regarding 'color' revolutions. Never mind the colors of their flags. It's the color of their consciousness that interests me more. Seems to me that the color of Killary's supporters' revolt is the color of mud. No offense to mud. I like mud myself. But as an energy or aura color? Her supporters' frequency resonance vibration is maybe tuned to A=440Hz. Whereas those who are aware of 'what' Hillary 'is' - maybe they're tuned to A=432Hz. Not a scientific proposal, mind you. Just an off-the-wall thought I had. Seems to me that mud colored consciousness reflects a subjective, wishful, unclear murky sort of thinking.
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Muchos Mahalos Folks. :)
One mainstream commentator noted that both Hillary and Bill were wearing purple at Hillary's concession speech Wednesday morning. _http://www.etonline.com/news/202418_hillary_clinton_why_she_wore_purple_during_concession_speech/

According to MSM (e.g.The New York Times, an early mission statement for the Congressional Union for Woman Suffrage ... purple "is the color of loyalty, constancy to purpose, unswerving steadfastness to a cause." Others suggested it was representative of the "red" and "blue" states coming together into a unified America.

On the other hand, here's the traditional significance of the color purple:
Purple is associated with royalty. It symbolizes power, nobility, luxury, and ambition. It conveys wealth and extravagance. Purple is the most powerful visible wavelength of electromagnetic energy. It’s just a few steps away from x-rays and gamma rays. Perhaps this explains why purple is associated with supernatural energy. The negative meanings of purple are decadence, conceit, and pomposity. Purple is also a color of mourning.
 
Ruth said:
Joe said:
Pashalis said:
Well, we thought for years now that the Potus has no real power. But is that really true?

I think it depends. A Potus that comes up through the privileged martha's vineyard-type set (most of them) is much more likely to go with the flow and basically do what he is 'advised' to do. Someone like Trump though, being an outsider, might come with ideas about doing his own thing. There's probably some leeway for someone like that to change things a bit, but what and how far can he go? That would depend on his own view of him as president and his own personal convictions and how likely he is to fall in line. All unknowns. I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

Well, a pawn can have as much power on the chess board as a King (or a Queen), just depends where all the pieces are, and how the game is being 'played'. Also these 'chess pieces' can often have individual free will too. That's sometimes why things don't work out as planned for the 'Powers That Be'. :P They can't always control it their pawns free will!

Ruth,

You just sparked my memory of a session where the Cs talked about the "Queen". Maybe Queen Hillary is off the board?

Session 10 October 2015
https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic said:
Q: (L) Okay, is that enough on that?
(Perceval) Yes. I wanted to ask about the extent to which the US and
the powers in that camp have been checkmated by Russia and
Putin? They seem to be extremely quiet. All they can do is talk a lot
of nonsense and throw silly accusations around...
A: Not checkmate just yet, but the queen is certainly in danger of
being taken
.
Q: (L) That's not bad.
:)
 
JEEP said:
When not reading Sott, I peruse whatreallyhappened dot com for some different perspectives. It was my antidote to all the pro-Killary BS being thrown around elsewhere and I relished all the anti-Killary material featured there in spades. Now that she's done, the site is featuring all the anti-Trump/pro-Killary protest crap it can find. Additionally, we're being told ad nauseam the 'whys' of Trump's spectacular upset victory, including this webpage blurb for this article entitled, Why Trump Won and Why Clinton Lost:

Hillary Clinton’s stunning defeat reflected a gross misjudgment by the Democratic Party about the depth of populist anger against self-serving elites who have treated much of the country with disdain

That there is a major division in the USA right now is natural if you consider that for years the rich and powerful have been progressively destroying the US and global economy, bit by bit, and increasing the suffering of people, to one extent or another, around the world in the process. When you create and then marginalize and forget about the poor in a society, you create an at least two tier system, and the results of that division will eventually manifest in a way that impacts everyone.

Hmmm - why does the top quote seem like a more succinct version of the bottom one? So - just in case anybody has failed to get the message - the rich & powerful have royally screwed you, impoverished you, diminished you, don't represent you - and by dam*, by voting in The Donald when all the bellwethers showed that was all but impossible, you have punched them in the face and said 'take that!' Feels good, no?

Meanwhile, back at the ranch, all youse guys who didn't get the satisfaction of having the first female POTUS break the glass ceiling have every right to be angry as h*ll, reject the election outcome and create as much chaos - especially w/ help from your friends at moveon.org - and outrage as humanly possible, all completely justified in your own minds . . . completely free of any influence from MSM whining/harping/sour grapes/subtle suggestions/active promotion. Result? A nation divided against itself and overripe for even more PTB manipulation - just as planned.

<snip>

Why do I get a mental picture of a gaggle of elites laughing their a**es off saying, 'gotcha!'

Please review the thoughts and sentiments being expressed on this thread to the latest outcome & possible future. Are we unknowingly contributing to the wrong 'signal' being sent out? Are we failing to see things as they really are? Are we underestimating just how cunning/manipulative the PTB truly are?

Jeep,

I think you are on to something there. I think it relates to the Ra material that Laura was trying to find.

Here is a snippet:

https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic said:
Ra: I am Ra. A mind/body/spirit social complex becomes a social memory
complex when its entire group of entities are of one orientation or seeking.
The group memory lost to the individuals in the roots of the tree of mind
then becomes known to the social complex, thus creating a social memory
complex.
The advantages of this complex are the relative lack of distortion
in understanding the social beingness and the relative lack of distortion in
pursuing the direction of seeking, for all understanding/distortions are
available to the entities of the society.
Questioner: Then we have crusaders from Orion coming to this planet for
mind control purposes.
How do they do this?
Ra: I am Ra. As all, they follow the Law of One observing free will. Contact
is made with those who call. Those then upon the planetary sphere act
much as do you to disseminate the attitudes and philosophy of their
particular understanding of the Law of One which is service to self. These
become the elite. Through these, the attempt begins to create a condition
whereby the remainder of the planetary entities are enslaved by their free
will.

I imagine a big control console where they have knobs they adjust depending on the free-will frequency that matches their STS programming and do their "nudges" to "orchestrate" the performance. :/
 
Madame President hasn't given up - yet ...

More than 860,000 people have signed an online petition demanding that members of the US Electoral College vote for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton as the next president instead of Donald Trump.

Petition to Make Clinton US President Gets Hundreds of Thousands of Signatures
https://sputniknews.com/us/201611111047317209-petition-clinton-president/

The number of petition supporters was growing by the thousands each minute, nearing its target of 1 million.

"Mr. Trump is unfit to serve," the petition posted on Change.org said. "Secretary Clinton won the popular vote and should be President."

In the United States, the Electoral College determines the outcome of presidential elections. Its 538 votes equal the number of representatives and senators in Congress, and the institution consists of state-level electors who formally choose the president and vice president based on popular-vote results.

The petition favoring Clinton said the electors can vote for the former secretary of state, if they choose, regardless of how individual residents of their states voted. "Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine — which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!" the petition stated.

The latest results show Trump secured 290 electoral votes in Tuesday’s election, 20 more than the minimum needed to win the presidency, while Clinton received 232. She won the popular vote, however, 48 percent to Trump’s 47 percent, by more than 200,000 ballots.
 
angelburst29 said:
Madame President hasn't given up - yet ...

More than 860,000 people have signed an online petition demanding that members of the US Electoral College vote for Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton as the next president instead of Donald Trump.

Petition to Make Clinton US President Gets Hundreds of Thousands of Signatures
https://sputniknews.com/us/201611111047317209-petition-clinton-president/

The number of petition supporters was growing by the thousands each minute, nearing its target of 1 million.

"Mr. Trump is unfit to serve," the petition posted on Change.org said. "Secretary Clinton won the popular vote and should be President."

In the United States, the Electoral College determines the outcome of presidential elections. Its 538 votes equal the number of representatives and senators in Congress, and the institution consists of state-level electors who formally choose the president and vice president based on popular-vote results.

The petition favoring Clinton said the electors can vote for the former secretary of state, if they choose, regardless of how individual residents of their states voted. "Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine — which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!" the petition stated.

The latest results show Trump secured 290 electoral votes in Tuesday’s election, 20 more than the minimum needed to win the presidency, while Clinton received 232. She won the popular vote, however, 48 percent to Trump’s 47 percent, by more than 200,000 ballots.

Unless the "queen" is off the board, and that might eventually be due to health issues I think.
STS doesn't go down without a fight it seems and "wishful thinking" doesn't accept reality if it doesn't match their wishes.
 
Donald Trump has won Arizona’s presidential contest and its 11 electoral votes.

The Republican president-elect had a solid lead over Hillary Clinton on election night, but a winner wasn’t declared because there were so many uncounted votes. The latest batch of returns tabulated Thursday made him the clear winner.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/whitehouse/the-latest-pence-arrives-home-to-indiana/2016/11/10/162e5270-a7a5-11e6-ba46-53db57f0e351_story.html
 
And . . . as an addendum to the 860,000 signatures angelburst29 referred to above, I just now read the following article on SOTT.

Regarding . . . Waiting. For. The. Other. Shoe. To. Drop.

So all those other color revolutions to install a regime change is now coming home to install a regime change here? Maidan Square was a trial run? And all that ammunition being stockpiled all over the US. Not that this is specifically what the plan was. But the PTB knew at some point down the line, it would come in handy.

OK. Anybody can now tell me I am being paranoid. I would love for that to be the case.

I included the comments as well. Is that ok? Or noise?

I don't understand. When I click on either the Title of the article or on the SHTFplan so I can open up their site in order to copy/paste their address here, I keep getting about.blank and the website doesn't open up. This is the first time that's happened to me.

I think we could title this article . . . "So This Is What a Color Revolution Looks Like."


https://www.sott.net/article/333584-Election-may-not-be-over-Clinton-cabal-may-be-trying-to-steal-Arizona-and-Michigan


Mac Slavo
SHTFplan
Thu, 10 Nov 2016 00:00 UTC


Election may not be over: Clinton cabal "may be trying to steal Arizona and Michigan"


You didn't think she'd go down without a fight did you?

The Clinton campaign is clawing it's way to what they hope may land Hillary in the White House. Though Clinton officially conceded the race to Trump on Wednesday morning, a concession is not legally binding. During the 2000 election Al Gore conceded to George Bush on the night of the election, only to begin court proceedings a few short hours later to contest the results and initiate recounts.

According to Jim Stone, the race between Trump and Clinton may not be over just yet:
They may be trying to steal Arizona and Michigan, and then use special powers to flip 9 electoral votes away from Trump. THERE IS A REASON WHY THEY HAVE REFUSED TO MAKE THEIR TOTALS OFFICIAL. THIS IS NOT OVER YET

...

Trump won Arizona. Why has it not been made official? Trump won Michigan. Why has it not been made official? They are calling the counts "unofficial," WHY?
Election officials in Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona and New Hampshire are still counting votes. The vote differentials while the counts conclude are so close that Clinton could potentially inch out a win with early voting ballots and provisional ballots. The small difference in votes in most of these states could trigger recounts. And given what we know about the Clinton campaign, we suspect that any recount would bring with it the real possibility of "uncounted votes" being discovered in back closets, much like we saw in Florida during the 2000 election debacle.

Newsweek confirms that Clinton still has a chance:
AP analyst Michael McDonald says he is skeptical that Trump won Wisconsin, as the AP projected. If that state flips for Clinton and she wins the other toss-up states, she and Trump could be in a tie at 269 votes each.

"Maybe Clinton actually wins Wisconsin," McDonald says. "Look, just because the media calls something does not mean that that's actually the outcome of the election."
In that event that neither candidate hits the 270 electoral vote threshold, the vote for President would be passed on to the Republican controlled House of Representatives and the vote for Vice President would be put before the Senate, also controlled by Republicans.

One might say this is a no-brainer, except we have two words: #NEVERTRUMP.

The NeverTrump movement, started by conservatives and championed publicly and privately by sitting U.S. Congressional leaders, could potentially steal the win right out from under Donald Trump.

Though unlikely, it remains a distinct possibility.

And never to go without a Plan B, as John Podesta hinted on election night, Clinton has a second option, which involves targeting the electoral college directly.

Change.org has already filed a petition that includes 361,000 signatures as of this writing asking members of red States' Electoral College to turn on the will of the people of their state and cast a vote for Hillary instead of Trump. The situation would not be unprecedented, as there have been 157 "faithless electors" since the inception of the College in 1787. None of those faithless votes ever resulted in a significant shift in the election. Electors are bound by most states to cast the vote for their pledged party and failure to do so comes with fines and, in some cases, jail time.

What it boils down to is that Hillary could conceivably flip 10 Electors to her side, however unlikely of a scenario that is:
Petition Excerpt:

On December 19, the Electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win. However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine - which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!

We are calling on the Electors to ignore their states' votes and cast their ballots for Secretary Clinton. Why?

Mr. Trump is unfit to serve. His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the Republic.

Secretary Clinton WON THE POPULAR VOTE and should be President.

Hillary won the popular vote. The only reason Trump "won" is because of the Electoral College.


But the Electoral College can actually give the White House to either candidate. So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?

We can fully expect Hillary Clinton to push, even if she does so from behind the scenes.


We expect that within hours or days the push from the liberal media will be widespread and the thousands of protesters taking over major cities across America will be calling for recounts, faithless electoral votes and revolution.

It's definitely not over until the electoral votes are cast on December 19.

Sott Editor's Comment:
This possible development should not come as a surprise given what we've seen the Clinton cabal do up until now. One thing's for sure, IF they do go through with this 'full charge' the American public will further entrench themselves in their positions and the animosity between pro-Trump and pro-Clinton groups enflamed like never before. How perfect a strategy for the ruling elite who would like to see nothing more than the people angry, upset and afraid to distraction - while the world falls apart around their feet.

The above article is further corroborated by the New York Post and has already made it to Yahoo News:
For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won't have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College.

Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton's 228.

According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals.

However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether.

There's even a name for it: becoming a "faithless elector."

The idea of electors reversing their vote is rarely discussed — and was most recently bandied about after the incredibly close 2000 election in which George Bush narrowly beat Al Gore. And electors going "faithless" is exceedingly rare.

Well over 99 percent of electors throughout American history have voted as pledged, according to an analysis done by the New York Times.

It does happen, though.

The last faithless elector reared his roguish head back in 2004, when a lone anonymous voter in Minnesota declined to vote for Democrat John Kerry and instead voted for Kerry's running mate, John Edwards.

The rogue's vote was purely ceremonial, as Bush already had 286 electoral votes, more than enough to ensure his reelection.

Faithless electors are technically barred in only 29 states from ignoring the will of the voters, though the penalties are light. And a faithless elector has never swung an election.

But given the high dissatisfaction with Trump among Republicans, a few faithless GOP electors could well go rogue next month.

One Texas GOP elector, Chris Suprun of Texas, a firefighter, told Politico in August that he finds Trump so unpalatable he'd consider voting for Clinton when he gets to Georgia's capital on Dec. 19th.

Baoky Vu, a Decatur businessman, told the Atlanta-based news site AJC.com in August that he couldn't stomach voting for Trump either, and was quietly convinced by local GOP leaders to resign as an elector.

Clinton would need more than 20 GOP electors to go rogue and vote instead for her — a mighty tall order.

Even then, the new, Republican-controlled Congress meets Jan. 6 to approve the electoral college vote, and would certainly vote to void any roguery, handing the victory firmly back to Trump.

The Founding Fathers created the electoral college because the were "afraid of direct Democracy," according to FactCheck.org.

In fact, Alexander Hamilton thought the electors would make sure "the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications."

It remains to be seen, given Tuesday's surprise election result, whether Democrats — and even some Republicans — who question the "requisite qualifications" of president-elect Donald Trump will push to revisit the Electoral College system.


Reader Comments
Shane
Dunno
By: Shane
Killary made a big hub-bub about Trump's statement during the last debate on how he didn''t know if he would accept the election results. She was 'horrified' to question the bedrock of democracy and blah, blah, blah.

Not that this creature is afraid to be a hypocrite, but I do think if they were to question the results, they would have had to made it public by now. Trump has met with Obama, is talking with foreign leaders, etc. They'd need to be prepared to do something like this, and it seems they aren't and really didn't expect to loose.

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 01:48 UTC
Re: Dunno
By: jenny4784
I don't think they'll have much chance with recounts. At best, they might be able to flip a few electoral votes under the "we just finished counting them" line, but I agree even that is probably pretty slim.

BUT the electoral college? Really, it exists for precisely this reason- to protect the nation from a public too stupid to know whats best for them. It is a fail safe mechanism to over-rule the people, and they can always fall back on the defense that she actually won the popular vote. This would be sold as the fulfillment of true democracy. And lets face it, the country is so openly a banana republic already... "What difference does it make?!" if people question it.

"We can fully expect Hillary Clinton to push, even if she does so from behind the scenes."
Absolutely. This would have to be behind the scenes to save face it she fails- she canNOT lose again- and it has to be seen as coming of their own will, not her manipulation.

I would say it all really comes down to- why did she actually lose? was her loss truly due to underestimation and failure to adequately rig the election or did the PTB actually decide she was too much of a liability and pull the plug in the end?

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 02:59 UTC
On this note . . .
By: Good Optics
. . . the others notwithstanding, the Trump win begins to make a little more sense.

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 01:51 UTC
Joan
Reader Comment
By: Joan
How low can you go!

This is blatant example showing how little disregard that the elite has for the "little people" who have had there voice heard loud and clear.

Also, there must be some distress in the Clinton camp, all those donations, it's payback time, they failed on there "promises".

Hm, how can they make good, millions of dollars at stake. Soros to the rescue.

It disgust me!

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 02:03 UTC
graeme15b
Reader comment
By: graeme15b
Forget Ukraine, that would be the most blatant coup in history.

I reckon with all the protests that Soros and his ilk have encouraged, they're already working on Trump to show him who is boss.
You must comply, or die.

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 02:09 UTC
Reader Comment
By: jenny4784
This is the most depressing thing I've read in two days. And not because I'm celebrating for Trump, but because what it will mean if this happens.

"How perfect a strategy for the ruling elite who would like to see nothing more than the people angry, upset and afraid to distraction - while the world falls apart around their feet. "

Watching all this go down... the election... the aftermath.. all I've been able to think is, So this is what a color revolution looks like? I keep hoping I'm wrong, but boy does it look like all the dominos are in place and arranged in such a way to provide the same outcome no matter which one you push down first.

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 02:35 UTC
Astronaut
Far fetched.
By: Astronaut
Possible but not probable.

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 02:57 UTC
Re: Far fetched.
By: ancientbird66
Both the Congress and Senate are both Republican controlled............so even if she did get in...........shes already a lame duck..........and for a laugh.........if California leaves the union shes out of 55 Electoral votes.......

Fri, 11 Nov 2016 03:34 UTC
 
Carl said:
Thinking about it again it's true that's not entirely accurate, but kind of on the point as well - he wants to be the popular one, and wants to be incredibly famous and known for that. That is his 'good life'. The only way to really do that is bring back the American dream for many people.

I think that may be a part of his motivation to run for President, but not the main reason. If you have watched the video Laura posted you will see that he has been very consistent over the years about wanting someone to step up and fix the mess that was the US government. He was pretty clear that he, personally, could not see himself ever running for President. He was good at what he did, he loved it and he had it made with a great business, family, etc.

He waited and waited. No one ever stepped up to the plate. Meanwhile, things just continued to get worse and it was apparent we were heading off a cliff. What to do?

He was probably aware it would take someone 'like Trump' to be able to get anything at all done to set us back on track. I think he reluctantly realized nobody else was ever going to step up and that the only recourse was to do so himself.

It also seems that a lot of people were pleading for him to do so for quite some time and most likely for a lot of different reasons too. He may lack political experience as it is commonly understood, but he has dealt with and hobnobbed with a lot of high-level people for many years, and this kind of experience is very useful, and he is because of his familiarity with these situations not intimidated or overawed in dealing with them.

Yes, he does have a big ego, but I think this is an absolute necessity if one is to aspire to the Presidency. If not him, who else would have the audacity to attempt what he did? And, the ability to succeed?
 
It seems to me that the main reason Hitler was a genocidal megalomaniac racist, was that he decided to be a genocidal megalomaniac racist.

If Hitler had instead stuck with just doing all the other things he did while in power; rejecting debts, investing heavily in infrastructure, creating wealth and health among his people, why.., Germany today would have reason to look back and be very proud of Hitler's leadership!


Trump is in a position similar to Hitler's just before he took power. But something seems different today. His racist rhetoric and hate speech, so toxic in the beginning, at some point during his campaign appeared very much to drop in volume. Whether this was due to campaign advisors begging him to reign it in, or due to a shift in his own awareness, or both; who can say? I know there are days when I make internal choices about how I want to conduct myself, about which 'tiger' I'm going to feed, -decisions which are pretty big and which must surely divide time lines at least for myself. I wonder if it is possible that we inherited a timeline with a different, better version of Trump than the one I remember from last year? (In the same way, just as a thought, is there perhaps a timeline out there where JFK fulfilled all the dark expectations of the elite powers who put him in office? Did it all come down to a short period in his life where he had to decide what kind of man he would be, or was it always chipped in stone?)

~~~

A word about cycles...

What I mean by cycles is very specific, and I want to share this because it forms a good deal of the way I picture our present reality.

By cycles, I mean events in our own lives and in the world at large which happen over and over again. I've written elsewhere about this phenomenon, but essentially, I have observed that we live through the same dramas with copies of the same people and environments. From a purely materialist viewpoint, each visitation is unrecognizable from the last. The people and settings are physically different, however upon closer inspection the similarities are uncanny.

I first became aware of this when trying a recapitulation exercise; -Trying to remember one's whole life in detail is a monumental job, and to get started there were suggested a few methods and tricks. Following one of these, I tried drawing a time-line on a long series of papers all taped together. After spending a day or so filling it out, I was surprised to see a sort of wave form of similar kinds of experiences become apparent. Significant objects, places and situations and relationships, even names, became very obvious in their repetition, and without this visual aid, I don't think I would have stumbled across this observation.

For whatever reason, the period between 'same things' on my paper chart seemed to be about 10-15 years. I started examining the time lines of close friends and it became clear that the same forces of repetition were at work in their lives as well. I don't know if this is just true of me and the people nearest to me, but I assume that the phenomenon extends outward to contain everybody and everything, -and that if you don't see it, it's either because you're just missing the patterns or because you don't want to see it, (for reasons of karma or lesson integrity or what have you). I noted that some people became extremely upset when I started explaining how it worked, indicating the recurring events in their lives. (I don't do this anymore.)

My working theory today is that when it comes to these cycles, I think it is unavoidable that all the energies on this apparent time-wheel will be re-experienced.

Life experiences can be thought of as being made up of collections of packets of differently flavored energy. These packets of energies create the sensations of what we feel and touch and think, and they race up to us on the wheel and move through us, (or us through them) again and again and none of it can be avoided.

In the smaller cycles I've lived through, when I became aware of what was happening, that I was indeed running into the same archetypes in people and situations, I thought, "Ah! But I am prepared now! I can SEE! Ho ho! Watch as I Kung Fu Master my way through this stuff with grace!" This completely and spectacularly failed to work. All I was able to change was my own response profile, and I'm not sure I was actually creating anything new there either, rather just grabbing for one of the available "behavior hats" from somebody else, (forcing them to take a different hat. All hats must be worn.)

I'd try to outsmart reality and avoid the painful parts by proactively moving to prevent them from happening, but the shapes and contours of the situations and relationships simply morphed so as to contain my altered response profile, and all the requisite energies were still experienced. I might try to be more mature and refuse to wear the Egotistical Asshole Hat (as I had the first time/s), -except then some other person in the situation quite beyond my control would manage to find a mechanical reason to put that hat on instead, and all the same energies were experienced. Sometimes these energies were felt in shorter but more intense bursts than originally, and other times drawn out and protracted, but nothing was missed.

Sometime around this point I started really studying Gurdjieff, and his words about the mechanical nature of reality and the inability of people to change anything hit home in a very visceral, object lesson kind of way.

So I carry that insight with me today, coming at the present situation in the political world with the same attitude.

Without some kind of heroic effort to shift positions on the clockwork, (and I don't honestly know what that would take or how to do it), then all the various energies from last time (the Nazi period of history) can be assured of coming around again. (If my theories are correct and indeed apply to the larger world).

Now.., bearing all of this in mind...

I don't quite know how time-line jumping fits in. I wonder... Is it possible that the death camp genocidal horror stuff was avoided when we jumped timelines away from the Killery as POTUS reality?

Or has that stuff already happened? How many Muslims have already died in the Middle East? Is it on a scale approaching the holocaust? Has that energetic 'quota' been met? Have we done that part already?


Or... alternatively, was the last decade and a half since 9/11 just the repeated energy of WWI unfolding, -leaving behind a giant fiscal debt energy draining the population, (and feeding into foreign economies, like China?) Is the "Holocaust Hat" still waiting to be taken up and worn?

Is the worst yet to come or are we just about done?

~~~

Finally...

I remain troubled by the whole "94% of containers will be consumed" thing. That obviously hasn't happened yet. -Is that avoidable by time-line splitting? Is the Alien hybridization/colonization plan something which will only be experienced by those who stick to the darker time lines, or is that just a birthing pain we need to go through regardless?

These are my thoughts and wonderings at the moment.
 
I'm thinking and observing as the situation develops. It strikes me that quite a few "experts" who opine on how and why Trump got elected, and who attribute it to the "secret wish of the PTB" who hung Killary out to dry, might be just damage control. Looking at how things are going, it does seem to me that Trump got elected mainly because the Dems/PTB seriously miscalculated.

We need to remember that it takes time to gather the evidence and while speculating is okay, we ought not to hang any wishes on such theorizing. A lot of people simply cannot accept the idea that everything is not totally under the control of some "intelligence" - preferably human. That's the failing of the chemtrail peeps and the flat earth peeps. They NEED for somebody to be "in charge" even if that somebody does not have their best interests at heart: at least there is a "leader" that can possibly change. It's sort of a classic symptom of the schizoidal psychopath which exists along a spectrum from mild to severe.

What we see happening now with this "color revolution" business is classic "Authoritarian Global Change Game" stuff. Only, strangely, it seems that the "party on the left is now the party on the right". But that is well covered in Political Ponerology where Lobaczewski talks about changes in ideology that occur within a group over time as a result of the infiltration of psychopaths and other pathologies. And this shift has occurred within our lifetimes... heck, within the past decade or so.

https://www.sott.net/article/302550-When-researchers-simulated-a-game-of-global-politics-led-by-right-wingers-the-result-was-a-death-count-in-the-billions

https://www.sott.net/article/302553-Bob-Altmeyers-Global-Game-Change-and-the-authoritarian-personality

https://www.sott.net/article/242217-Why-Anti-Authoritarians-are-Diagnosed-as-Mentally-Ill

https://www.sott.net/article/165328-Hypocrisy-of-the-Authoritarians
 
Laura said:
Don't know if this has been posted before, but it is definitely a MUST SEE. He's been consistent through the years.


Thanks for sharing this video Laura. It was pretty eye-opening to see how he has maintained his position throughout the years. It seems like Trump really isnt the buffoon he has been made out to be, and I question whether a lot of the "bufoon" type behaviour and the whole "Trump" persona was actually part of the campaigning stretegy to appeal to more people for the votes. Ive got to admit that i cant help but kinda like the guy... despite not agreeing with some of his statements. I honestly get the impression that his heart is in the right place. Maybe after sitting down with Putin a couple of times, he may develop some of the skills be suited for the job. We can only wait and see, but after watching that video, it is clear now why the establishment launched attacks on him from day one of his campaign.
 
I find this whole discussion - here, on fb, in the recent radio shows etc. - quite fascinating. It's clear that most of us haven't fully made up their minds about many aspects of this whole development. The universe is really testing our understanding and discernment to the max: we need to make use of every scrap of knowledge we accumulated over the years here, psychology, pathology, authoritarian followers, understanding of the political system/the deep state, hyperdimensional realities and what we learned about it from the Cs, our own biases and programs, our ability to look at seemingly conflicting views and data etc. etc.

One aspect that I thought about is that Trump, especially from a European perspective, might have quite a positive effect EVEN if all he manages to do is to keep a soft and reconciliatory tone about Russia. I know from experience with government types that they listen - consciously and unconsciously - VERY closely to what comes from the USA and act accordingly. Let's not forget that most of them are authoritarian followers or psychopaths; the first group just does what they perceive to be the consensus that is 'in the air', while the psychos are in it for themselves and can switch in an instant if they see an advantage for them. The early signs are already there, with politicians deleting their past anti-Trump tweets and such. So what will the bureaucracies within the empire do if they perceive a new wind, a new 'consensus' on Russia? Finally doing the sensible thing and moving closer to the east, starting a new wave of business deals etc.? I'm not holding my breath, but it's a possibility I think. The phenomenon of authoritarian followers might, after all, work in our favor to an extent.
 
luc said:
I find this whole discussion - here, on fb, in the recent radio shows etc. - quite fascinating. It's clear that most of us haven't fully made up their minds about many aspects of this whole development. The universe is really testing our understanding and discernment to the max: we need to make use of every scrap of knowledge we accumulated over the years here, psychology, pathology, authoritarian followers, understanding of the political system/the deep state, hyperdimensional realities and what we learned about it from the Cs, our own biases and programs, our ability to look at seemingly conflicting views and data etc. etc.

Also, in order to be in that kind of understanding, it's important to adopt a non-emotional stance in the sense of not being overwhelmed by fear or hysteria. Things are unveiling before everyone's eyes to see and anyone who misses the opportunity misses the train so to speak.
 
As the unrests and demonstrations continue in the USA, look this video and see how Big media propaganda goes and what are they capable of doing just to do for what are they paid for by all those psychopaths.

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUY5lcgxBM

The CNN camera-man is acting that he is a mad protester who is pro-Clinton of course , but at the end, he is recognized who and what he actually is
:)
 
Today I got spam-email from 'Avaaz' and instead of deleting it right away, I decided to read it because it was clearly meant to inspire more protests and revolution against the election of Trump (well, I guess Soros et. co want to just create enough chaos to "clear the table").

Here's what was said in the email (emphasis mine):

Dear friends,

The unimaginable has happened. President Trump.

And worse, there are Trumps in every town. Threatening all our democracies.

What's most important now is to build a global movement to stop them. Over 2 million of us have signed the open letter, below, from the world to Trump, and it's been covered across major media. Now it's a manifesto for the next 4 years -- one that will run as a full page ad in major papers and project onto Trump Tower in New York. Help it become an even more powerful message -- forward it widely and sign below:

[Add my name]

###

Dear Mr. Trump,

This is not what greatness looks like.

The world rejects your fear, hate-mongering, and bigotry. We reject your support for torture, your calls for murdering civilians, and your general encouragement of violence. We reject your denigration of women, Muslims, Mexicans, and millions of others who don’t look like you, talk like you, or pray to the same god as you.

Facing your fear we choose compassion. Hearing your despair we choose hope. Seeing your ignorance we choose understanding.

As citizens of the world, we stand united against your brand of division.

Sincerely, [Add my name]

###

Sometimes in the darkest moments the brightest lights shine. Let's make Trump a force that brings the world together, to fight for everything we love.

With hope,

Ricken, Alice, Emma, Christoph and the whole Avaaz team.


PS - Here's a letter with some more thoughts on the moment we're in, and the plan going forward:

We wanted to write from the heart about what just happened in the US, and what's happening around the world.

The shock is justified - the most powerful nation in the world will be led by a breathtakingly ignorant, bigoted, violent, pathologically lying, sexually predatory, vengeful, authoritarian, corrupt reality TV star. Those aren't insults, they're facts.

###

How is democracy coming to this? How do we deal with it? We want to offer 5 points:

Acceptance - we can't wisely change anything about the world or ourselves if we don't first accept it. So take a deep breath, and let's face it. President Trump. And Trumpism striving for power in many of our countries.

Holistic Evaluation - I can't find a better phrase for this idea, but our brains have a deep negativity bias. We are easily overwhelmed by fearful focus on the negative, and we make awful judgments when we are. This is how demagogues rise. We can't let it happen to us. So looking at the situation holistically, here's some reassuring points:

He's not all-powerful - The US President faces many checks and balances from Congress, the constitution, the courts, his own party, and foreign leaders.

He was recently a liberal! - Trump is dangerous, but not a maniac. He has praised Hillary Clinton and donated to her campaigns and many of his positions are more reasonable when you scrutinize them. "Building a wall" is just saying he will physically police the US border. It's distasteful, but not crazy. Much of his party opposed him because he wasn't conservative enough!

He's tapped into legitimate concerns - Trump's supporters are not simply a racist ignorant mob. Polls show at least half are people who are well aware of his faults but are desperate for change, hate Hillary Clinton, and are willing to gamble on him.
The "people" are not with him - Trump lost the popular vote in the election (he just won through the US's quirky 'electoral college' system). So don't think this was a landslide.

Focused Alarm - now that acceptance and holistic evaluation ensure we're not freaking out unproductively, let's focus our concern where it most needs to be:

Climate Change- Trump says it's a hoax and wants to tear up the Paris climate agreement. Climate Change threatens our species and we're running out of time - but IF we can make sure that world leaders don't slow down, but speed up, the US alone can't destroy us. The rest of the world will drive a clean energy revolution that will make renewable energy much cheaper than fossil fuels - the US will be forced to switch by simple economics.

Fascism - we just don't know what kind of leader Trump is. Is he a Berlusconi, the Trump-like Italian billionaire Prime Minister who was outrageously corrupt and ridiculous but not a fascist? Or is he a Mussolini? We will have to watch like hawks and respond fast to the tell-tale signs of eroding the rule of law, rigging the electoral system, intimidating the media, or promoting hatred of some minorities.

Terrorism and War - Trump's instincts in the campaign were to call for things like murdering the families of suspected terrorists and introducing widespread torture. This direction is a gift to ISIS and will fuel the global conflict with militant Islam. His ideas are mostly illegal, but we'll have to watch closely and push back hard - domestically and through US allies - if this erratic man-child uses the US military brutally.

It's the Media Stupid - Despite ALL evidence to the contrary, the American public overwhelmingly sees Hillary Clinton as MORE dishonest and corrupt than Donald Trump. This, by itself, is the reason why Trump is president. And it's the media's fault. US network news devoted more time to coverage of Clinton's totally BS email scandal than TO ALL POLICY ISSUES COMBINED. One the one side, we have ruthlessly sophisticated partisan propaganda media pushing Trump, and on the other an 'impartial' media that chases fake scandals and ratings and suggests false equivalence between the sides in the name of appearing balanced. This is the dynamic that gave us Brexit as well. We desperately need a smarter media. Very few organizations campaign on this, and Avaaz needs to.

This is a HUGE opportunity, let's rise to it - change doesn't happen in a steady, linear way. We human beings learn best from crisis and calamity. Our brightest lights emerge from our deepest darknesses. World War II gave us human rights and the United Nations. And the darknesses of Trumpism could help us build the most inspiring movement for human unity and progress the world has EVER seen, to not only beat back the Trumps in each of our countries, but to do so with a new, people-centered, high-integrity, inspiring politics that brings massive improvement to the status quo. Let's get to work on it :).

With hope, and apologies for the long memo,

Ricken and the Avaaz team.

Such blatant manipulation and psychopathic projection! I hope that the peeps in the US don't buy this ****.
 
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