Earthquake in Chile: Are you all OK?

I've been reading some stuff about the earthquake in Chile, and stumbled upon these two articles:

IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn Sets Out Renewed Vision for the IMF in the Post-Crisis World
Press Release No. 10/62
February 26, 2010

In an address at the Annual Meeting of the Bretton Woods Committee in Washington, DC, International Monetary Fund Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn set out today the key elements of a renewed vision for what he called “an IMF for the 21st century.”

The Managing Director explained it was a “a vision that responds to the challenges our 186 member countries face in the post-crisis era, that will enable the Fund to retool itself to be more effective, and yet that remains firmly grounded in the core mandate given to the IMF by its founders.” He added that this “renewed mandate” should cover the full range of macroeconomic and financial sector policies that bear on global stability in the modern world and strengthen the Fund’s role as “guardian of systemic stability.”

Mr. Strauss-Kahn presented three key priorities for updating the Fund’s mandate:

Improving Crisis Prevention
. He said the IMF could improve its oversight of systemic and financial risks. “We are floating the idea of a new multilateral surveillance procedure”, he said, to assess the systemic effects of a country’s policies in a fundamentally different way. Such a procedure would complement the Fund’s country-level surveillance and the efforts of the G-20, which had recently launched the Mutual Assessment Process. Mr. Strauss-Kahn also saw a role for the IMF to help address a broader range of international policy challenges that would require an “enhanced multilateral approach to find lasting solutions.”

On financial risk, Mr. Strauss-Kahn focused on doing a better job of “tracing how risk percolates through the system.” This would include strengthened monitoring of the several dozen large, complex financial institutions that make up the basic “plumbing” of international finance. Turning to capital account liberalization, he emphasized the Fund’s “pragmatic position, including on the issue of capital controls.

Bolstering Crisis Response. Mr. Strauss-Kahn emphasized that, in a system-wide crisis, IMF lending would need to be of a speed, coverage and size far beyond previous assumptions. “We are currently exploring various options, including for short-term, multi-country credit lines.” The Fund is also looking into ways to make its insurance product, the Flexible Credit Line, more attractive, and also how to collaborate with regional reserve pools—noting the example of the “positive and stabilizing” role played by EU lending in parallel with IMF programs.

On the question of support for low-income countries, Mr. Strauss-Kahn highlighted the significant steps taken by the IMF over the past year—including revamping its lending and streamlining conditionality. “But we could do even more,” he said. This might include expanding the Fund’s role as a “provider of insurance against global volatility or other shocks, including from the effects of climate change”. Innovative financing solutions for countries facing fragilities and security issues should also be considered.

Strengthening the International Monetary System. Despite episodic problems, Mr. Strauss-Kahn stressed that the current international monetary system had “demonstrated resilience during the crisis,” with the U.S. dollar playing the role of a “safe haven” asset. Going forward, the challenge would be to find ways to “limit the tension arising from the high demand for precautionary reserves on the one hand, and the narrow supply of reserves on the other.” Here, the Fund could play a role by providing liquidity.

On the longer-term question of whether a new globally-issued reserve asset was needed, the Managing Director stated that “it is intellectually healthy to explore these kinds of ideas now—with a view to what the global system might need at some time in the future.”

Mr. Strauss-Kahn also emphasized that a renewed mandate for the IMF would lack legitimacy unless the Fund can tackle ”long-standing grievances” with its governance. While welcoming the G-20’s firm backing for IMF governance reform, he noted that ”translating these commitments into reality is not always easy.” For example, the IMF’s 2008 quota and voice reform is still not effective. While it was approved by nearly all the Fund’s Governors back in April 2008, so far only 64 of the IMF’s 186 member countries—representing about 70 percent of the required 85 percent voting power—have passed the necessary legislation to make the reform effective. “To achieve lasting governance reform,” he said, ”the Fund needs the active support of its entire membership.”

The Managing Director also spoke to the importance of multilateralism. “If this crisis taught us anything, it is that the world needs even more multilateralism today than it did when the Bretton Woods institutions were founded in 1944.” Noting the “unprecedented” international policy collaboration that had taken place during the crisis, he said that, the 21st century will demand “more of this kind of collaboration not less. More multilateralism, not less. More IMF, not less.”

For further information on the Fund’s mandate see:

The Fund’s Mandate—An Overview; IMF Policy Paper; January 22, 2010 http://www.imf.org/external/np/pp/eng/2010/012210a.pdf

The Fund’s Mandate—The Legal Framework; IMF Policy Paper; February 22, 2010 http://www.imf.org/external/np/pp/eng/2010/022210.pdf

World Bank Ready to Help Chile in Aftermath of Earthquake

WASHINGTON, February 27, 2010 – World Bank Group President Robert B. Zoellick said the institution was ready to help the victims of Chile’s massive earthquake as he expressed his condolences following the disaster that hit the center and south of the country early this morning.

“Our thoughts are with the people of Chile at this difficult time,” said Zoellick. “The World Bank stands ready to support the Chilean government in any way it may find useful.”

Zoellick said the Bank Group would draw on its considerable expertise in catastrophe management and reconstruction to support Chile in the aftermath of this earthquake.

Shock Doctrine approaching, anyone? Notice that they talk about loans as usual, and not grants.

I don't know, but the whole thing smells fishy to me... Specially when you read what Naomi Klein says about Chile and the Shock Doctrine, and articles like this one explaining what the IMF and the World Bank did to Chile: CHILE: THE LABORATORY TEST

If there is anything there, I really hope that Chile refuses to get such a demonic type of "help"!
 
Ailén said:
If there is anything there, I really hope that Chile refuses to get such a demonic type of "help"!

I tend to be pessimistic about this. Note that this is a transition between the presidency of Bachelet and Piñera.
Piñera is known to be a US-backed banker who under Pinochet was responsible for the big economic crisis in the eighties.
Piñera is Chile's berlusconi. He owns the major TV channels (and I can assure you the programs are really the idiocraty-type and brain-washing programs) and his presidency compain was about security and fear monging. I recently heard about a woman who said that she voted for him because she's afraid of him (a typical vote in traumatized populations).
In any case, Piñera will do whatever the USwill tell him/it to do imho.
 
mkrnhr said:
Ailén said:
If there is anything there, I really hope that Chile refuses to get such a demonic type of "help"!

I tend to be pessimistic about this. Note that this is a transition between the presidency of Bachelet and Piñera.
Piñera is known to be a US-backed banker who under Pinochet was responsible for the big economic crisis in the eighties.
Piñera is Chile's berlusconi. He owns the major TV channels (and I can assure you the programs are really the idiocraty-type and brain-washing programs) and his presidency compain was about security and fear monging. I recently heard about a woman who said that she voted for him because she's afraid of him (a typical vote in traumatized populations).
In any case, Piñera will do whatever the USwill tell him/it to do imho.

Oh boy... That doesn't look good.

Check this out: http://www.thenation.com/doc/20100201/hite_kornbluh

A Pinera victory marks a major turning point in the post-Pinochet transition, and perhaps a return to power of some of the hardcore rightists who collaborated with the military regime. (Pinera's brother served as Pinochet's Minister of Labor.) For twenty years the Chilean center-left political elite has governed in a stable if cautious approach to Chile's economic and political evolution; the coalition is now paying the price for failing to build and mobilize a mass base. The historically strong political parties that make up the twenty-year governing Concertación alliance have failed to excite or incorporate young people. (Current legislation requires all registered voters to cast ballots, but it is not obligatory to register to vote. Of a total of 12 million potential voters, close to four million, or 31 percent, are unregistered. A law is pending that would make registration automatic and the vote voluntary.) Interviews at polling stations on Sunday reflected a sense among young Chileans that Frei simply carried no appeal to their interests.

The 52nd state?

Having consigned the horror of the US-backed presidency of General Pinochet to history, it looks as if the Chileans are heading back in the same direction.

Billionaire Sebastian Pinera has come up trumps in his second attempt to win the presidency, beating off his centre-left rival Eduardo Frei. Ahead of him, he says, is a more bountiful Chile, prosperous and tough on crime. And the prospectus comes with a thin promise to continue the social policies of the woman he replaces, Michelle Bachelet, who is barred constitutionally from standing for another term.

Bachelet, apart from being hugely intelligent, was a driven woman in the presidency, her father having been one of the former president Allende's ministers. President Allende, it should be remembered, was a socialist who made massive reforms which so irritated the USA that they funded and backed Pinochet's military coup, Allende's final breath was drawn as he was under siege from an aerial shelling of the presidential palace.

Bachelet's father, having been one of Allende's ministers, was then tortured to death by Pinochet. The General then seized both Michelle and her mother and tortured them, too.

Bachelet's presidency hasn't been without its problems but under Pinera, the Chileans may find themselves eating more Macdonalds and paying much more money to American corporations. For it is fairly plain to everyone that Pinera is 'America's man' in the same way that Pinochet was. True, he's not the psychopath that Pinochet was, but Pinera's claims of being centre-right are about as far-fetched as Pinochet's claim to be a man of the people.

It's runs in the blood. Pinera's father was a CIA informer in the 1960s, and his brother, Jose, is a high-flyer in the American Cato Institute – an organisation which claims to be non-partisan but, in fact, is an economic think-tank that is almost completely in the pocket of the Republican party, with policies of 'self-determination' and 'minimal governance' – code for 'no social welfare available' and 'don't tax the rich.'

Before he landed that job, Jose had been one of Pinochet's right-hand men. One of his 1980s reforms is a Chilean national pension scheme, closely aligned with US interests, which is so useless, employees paying into it would be better off tucking cash under the mattress – quite literally. Administration fees (payable to US interests) outstrip the rate interest accrues, so your cash actually evaporates once in the scheme.

Sebasian Pinera built his wealth by owning the biggest credit card company in Chile – an enterprise which would have had no future without the backing of US banking. However, CIA documents reveal that he did, in fact, have close ties with Pinochet and, in particular, with a peculiar banking scandal during the horrific Pinochet years.

It was Pinera who placed Talca Bank in administration, having (with his brother) created 80 fake companies to be its creditors. The badly-organised robbery failed and, so concerned were the Americans, that they instructed the CIA to swoop in and 'rescue' Pinera from Chile and keep him out of the way of investigation until the scandal blew over. The journalist who discovered the inconvenient CIA documents which tell the story has since had his life threatened for publishing them.
The installation of Pinera as a puppet president in Chile is better than sending in the cruise missiles. But Chileans should now check their wallets as Pinera's policies begin to siphon their taxes away into the rich's personal fortunes...

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he's not the psychopath that Pinochet was
Ohhh, nothing can be that far from the truth. As I don't have the right (I signed it) to talk about Chilean politics in Chile, I just told people to hide his smile and look at his eyes :p and they have been horrified everytime. Facts are facts, but the Chilean youth has been brainwashed for so long time by media propaganda. A chilean colleague knew about the earthquake only yesterday in the morning, most were in 'carrete' a sort of meeting of youth to drink alcohol until the morning. The fascination to become like "gringos" is well established. The other time in the gym I saw on TV a children program talking about "El sueño americano" (the American dream). Actually the Piñera-TV is more focused on lootings than on people to be saved. All is about the material loss. Materialist and individualist mentality on the making :(
 
Dear forum members ... it's really moving to read your posts expressing your concern for the people of Chile and the Chilean forum members ... really thank you very much and wholeheartedly ... I've noticed people here with unconditional love and service to others that comforts deep the soul ... thank you very much ...

As I have said many times I have some problems with language, however, try not to mistake a lot ...

The event was really shocking and traumatic and has an important and extensive part of the country into chaos and devastating history ... has been shocking to see hundreds of huge new buildings almost totally collapsed. Also many historic buildings were destroyed. It is true that Chile is a country with "seismic tradition", and is just as able to withstand relatively "good "grade apocalyptic earthquake as it was this: grade 9 at the epicenter (Concepción) and 8 in the capital Santiago. Many people left with nothing, also has been much looting in the worst affected areas which has increased the anxiety and distress ... more plugged and tsunami destroyed whole towns practically ... the word "gruesome" has heard much these days ...

I am in Santiago and I could also live the 1985 earthquake that was grade 7, which also caused several damages, but of course this was far more powerful, and most extraordinary is that covering an impressive amount of territory ...

I personally live in a very secure building without any problem that resisted the 1985 earthquake and now the earthquake, but the movement itself was really impressive, the sound of the earth and brutal movement that I could not even walk to go to a safe and free from possible landslides, made this something really shocking to me was the strong feeling I was dreaming ... I confess that in some ways, the moment of the earthquake as "enjoyment" with terror and amazement As it remains amazing something as extraordinary as brutal movement of the Earth, but after seeing the damage elsewhere in great sadness and shock ... this is the video that recorded the friend of a friend of mine at the very moment the earthquake --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9pQ3zWWGc

With my family we had no problems, but like everyone else, we were without electricity supply and no water for three days, but again has again cut the water supply as there are many problems with the plumbing systems and especially with cellular signals that further complicates the situation with people lost or isolated ...

It's really tragic what is happening in many places, and only now sees the Divine Cosmic Mind becomes more present in each one ... am very grateful to the people of the forum for your concern ... a big hug friends ... and thanks a lot again...
 
Just saw this in the news: The chilean earthquake shifted the earth axis.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth-20100301.html
 
Merla said:
Just saw this in the news: The chilean earthquake shifted the earth axis.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth-20100301.html

Maybe more to come?

February 22 said:
A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a fourth.
Q: (L) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three factors, and also the fourth!.
A: 1) Wave approach. 2) Chlorofluorocarbon increase in atmosphere, thus affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the planet's axis rotation orientation. 4) Artificial tampering
by 3rd and 4th density STS forces in a number of different ways. Be vigilant. Be observant. Be cautious in your planning and be aware. Do not let emotional anomalies
cloud your knowledge base. This is not a "time" to let one's guard down.
Be especially careful of travel to unfamiliar locators, as well as sleeping in unfamiliar
surroundings!!! You are being watched. Or, at least, it is best to assume you are, and act, think, and prepare accordingly. Remember what you have been warned about
concerning attack. As you learn more and know more, you become more interesting... and, when your ranks swell, you are more vulnerable unless you are more aware!!

No looking at the date of this transcript, I wonder if the caution was not related to the events of the session of February 22 of this year? :rolleyes:
Especially that it comes all of a sudden, without a direct relation to the question asked.
 
mkrnhr said:
Merla said:
Just saw this in the news: The chilean earthquake shifted the earth axis.

http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/earth-20100301.html

Maybe more to come?

It is certainly starting to look like it to me. Recently some of us watched a video called "Magnetic Storm". I could only find the trailer in youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZrAbjJBde0

It is worth watching and then going through some of the old sessions with the Cs. It gives a lot of food for thought. Some of the things explained in that video don't seem to be entirely accurate, but pretty close. Interesting times ahead...
 
I've seen a doc years ago about Mars, and they said that life is impossible now on that planet because its magnetic field vanished. Then they showed that the earth was bifurcating from a magnetic dipole to and magnetic mutipole whith a decreased intensity. Something is happening deep inside, but it could be as well be inducted but something far away above.
 
mkrnhr said:
I've seen a doc years ago about Mars, and they said that life is impossible now on that planet because its magnetic field vanished. Then they showed that the earth was bifurcating from a magnetic dipole to and magnetic mutipole whith a decreased intensity. Something is happening deep inside, but it could be as well be inducted but something far away above.

Yes, that's very similar to what that video talks about. They also say that after this period of decrease magnetic field and multipoles, there is a sudden point where the poles reverse direction completely. It would be interesting to see if any other small pole shifts have occurred in the last few years, or if this is the beginning of that process...
 
Its good to know the forum members in Chile are ok!

Ailén said:
mkrnhr said:
I've seen a doc years ago about Mars, and they said that life is impossible now on that planet because its magnetic field vanished. Then they showed that the earth was bifurcating from a magnetic dipole to and magnetic mutipole whith a decreased intensity. Something is happening deep inside, but it could be as well be inducted but something far away above.

Yes, that's very similar to what that video talks about. They also say that after this period of decrease magnetic field and multipoles, there is a sudden point where the poles reverse direction completely. It would be interesting to see if any other small pole shifts have occurred in the last few years, or if this is the beginning of that process...

From 12.29.03
http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/29dec_magneticfield.html

Scientists have long known that the magnetic pole moves. James Ross located the pole for the first time in 1831 after an exhausting arctic journey during which his ship got stuck in the ice for four years. No one returned until the next century. In 1904, Roald Amundsen found the pole again and discovered that it had moved--at least 50 km since the days of Ross.

The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating "to 40 km per year," says Newitt. At this rate it will exit North America and reach Siberia in a few decades.
 
[quote author=mrknhr]I've seen a doc years ago about Mars, and they said that life is impossible now on that planet because its magnetic field vanished. Then they showed that the earth was bifurcating from a magnetic dipole to and magnetic mutipole whith a decreased intensity. Something is happening deep inside, but it could be as well be inducted but something far away above.[/quote]

I've been skeptical that we could fly to Mars without cancer frying our astronauts on the way. Recently I saw the solution. NASA has now determined that they can surround the spacecraft with magnetic field and artificial ionization to block the radiation. I've got the link somewhere at work. p
 
Ailén said:
Recently some of us watched a video called "Magnetic Storm". I could only find the trailer in youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZrAbjJBde0

It is worth watching and then going through some of the old sessions with the Cs. It gives a lot of food for thought. Some of the things explained in that video don't seem to be entirely accurate, but pretty close. Interesting times ahead...

As can be heard in the trailer, the MS science associates Earth's magnetic field with planet's liquid iron core circling. So the pole shift would indicate switch in circling and a start of rounding in the opposite direction, at least as I understand this phenomenon. A colleague of mine, when this subject was discussed, pointed out that material (iron) in the Earth's core should have been electrically neutral and that neutral material circling shouldn't produce magnetic field. I haven't had enough info to validate or refute his statement.
Also the magnetic field is held responsible for existence of atmosphere on Earth because without it Solar wind would just blow our atmosphere off.

Some time ago I came across a different approach to the problematics. The implications of it could be very interesting because it relates Earth with other planets of Solar system and our star in a unexpected way, through possible fission reactor in their interior at some stage in their development.

msasa said:
[quote author=wikipedia _http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georeactor]
Natural nuclear reactors

In the 1970s, geochemists documented the existence of naturally-occurring slow fission reactors in uranium-bearing geologic formations at Oklo in Gabon, Africa. The Oklo natural nuclear fission reactors operated approximately 1.5 to 2.0 billion years ago, when the natural occurrence of the uranium-235 isotope (required for the fission chain-reaction) was much higher.

The georeactor

Herndon's calculations also permitted the existence of a similar reactor at the Earth's core, depending on certain unconventional assumptions regarding the composition of the core, in particular the oxidation state of uranium and the likelihood of its precipitating to the center. He justifies these assumptions by comparison with the composition of enstatite chondrite meteorites, which do have the necessary highly reduced oxidation states and are the only chondrite meteorites which have sufficient iron metal-alloy to match the composition of the Earth with its massive core.

The Earth's magnetic field in relation to the reactor

According to Herndon, the energy produced by the reactor is what sustains the magnetic field of the Earth. He says the energy produced maintains the field. The field has weakened in recent years to indicate a possible polarity switch of our planet's poles. In his theory the switches in the field are caused by the reactor turning on and off.

Dynamo theory

In 2007, Herndon suggested a modification of dynamo theory, in which the electrically conducting operant fluid, and thus region of dynamo action, may be contained within the geocentric nuclear fission reactor, called the georeactor, in its fluid sub-shell, rather than the in Earth’s iron-alloy core. Herndon has pointed out the following reasons why long-term stable convection would not be favorable within the Earth’s fluid core: Maintaining stable convection would require maintaining an adverse temperature gradient, which would require efficient removal of heat brought to the top of the core by convection , but the Earth’s core is insulated by a 2900 km thick blanket of silicate rock, the mantle, which has a much lower thermal conductivity, lower heat capacity, and higher viscosity than the core; all impediments to efficient removal of heat brought to the top of the core by convection. Herndon pointed out that these impediments would not be the case for convection within the georeactor sub-shell, which surrounds the actinide, heat producing sub-core, and which itself is surrounded by the inner core, acting as a heat sink, surrounded by another heat sink, the core, both of which are reasonably good conductors of heat. Moreover, radioactive decay of neutron-rich fission products in the georeactor sub-shell assures a continuous supply of charged particles for establishing a seed-field for dynamo initiation.
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