Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[vinny]

Of course. Coincidence happened most probably. I thought asking TDCM in a light mood, remembering Gertrudes' post and smiling inwardly about the idea.
However there was a strange sort of energy-flow going on: i noticed a strange shift, sort of a melodic change in the air (i hummed a silly tune while cooking) a second before my mobile phone signaled loudly (set to alert for the pressure cooker). Then again few seconds after uttering the words asking TDCM there was another sensible shift in the 'ambience', the phone rang and the lady was on. I had a distinct feeling of perceiving reality in a slightly altered state, i can't really put my finger on, happened often before. Even thought jokingly for a change about giving a name to this change in perception.

what sometimes seems to happen, in my experience, is when you put the energy into a situation, as you've been doing, with some positive action backed by purposeful intent, that the universe will come back with an 'answer' of some kind. If this intent is founded on a some level of objectivity (such as, you need to cleanse your system with EE to get yourself operating well, but also the necessity to send out applications before a job is gonna appear!), then it can unfold more naturally. This is just how we interact with the universe, I think.

 

[forge]

I reported having emotional issues in the last two weeks - being mostly on the edge of crying, sobbing, short panic attacks, skin crawling fear and the gem of all: thinking of losing my mind. During these i concentrated on doing creative work as advised, abstained from sex, observing my fluctuating emotional states and did the full breathing program three times last week. Experiences with coming near to nervous breakdowns in past years and finally the EE Program helped me to do a basic analysis of the process, which had in every case a similar result. I came to a conclusion:
- Healing of the psyche always happened after a seriously stressful event.

There was is an invisible presence, a power, a help, an unseen essence, however you like to define, that made sure that i suffer hard, come close to losing my mind, and on the precipice of defeat it always held me together, helped me over the abyss, into the light.

As an effect of the EE excercises i have lost my fear as a basic reaction. It's unnerving to look into the future without the luxury of always fearing some upcoming element of it. I have lost desires, i cannot wishfully think about being a virtual hero in a videogame anymore. That was very exciting, good relaxation, a source of a lot of joy in the past. However sad it seems to others.

I can barely comprehend the effects the Eiriu Eolas program. Cannot compute. There is too much happening too fast. I am reacting occasionally, because i can assimilate only a minimal amount of new body & mental states, new sensations, new forms of perception. I am trying to cope, but it is too much. I don't know who i am anymore. Almost all the habits from the past, make-nice masks and safe reactions to social situations, questions about my life i had readily figured out, now can be thrown out of the window, nothing applies anymore! Everything has to be experienced anew, tried out, understood again with this enhanced command processing capability, the new brain that i got from EE exercises.

This evening for example i couldn't sleep again, got up, thought about posting, but rather got to work and solved a complex technical problem, did a little programming on the newly acquired graphical module made impressive pictures with it and included it into my resume, because it just happened to fit in perfectly. To do such a thing i simply did not have the mental resources, readiness, energy and willingness 3-4 months ago. What is happening? It's like my brain switches into hyperspeed processing mode, doing and accomplishing things i could only hope to do before. I lay in the bed early morning in lamentation, bemoaning my life, then the New Me gets up, ruled by the Divine Cosmic Mind and gets things done fast, efficiently and then asks: okay what's next, but decide fast, I have no time bickering and standing around!

 

[anya]

Bohort-I am glad you are feeling better.
Anya

 

[Nicholas]

As an effect of the EE excercises i have lost my fear as a basic reaction. It's unnerving to look into the future without the luxury of always fearing some upcoming element of it. I have lost desires, i cannot wishfully think about being a virtual hero in a videogame anymore. That was very exciting, good relaxation, a source of a lot of joy in the past. However sad it seems to others.

I use to be a World of Warcrack player for years but finally gave it up two years ago. Looking back on it now the game seems to have prepared me for what I am doing now. Looking at myself from a different viewpoint (like controlling an avatar / hero). Networking with a guild and teaming up to accomplish goals. I am now doing these things in real life. When I left the game and the guild, I explained to my guild mates that I am now in a real life adventure. Only one guild member wished me luck on my journey!

We are all building up our skills now for the adventure ahead of us. Do not despair.

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

I have not been able to do the breathing as I would have wanted to for some weeks now. My energy level seems to be just at the minimum to allow me handle my daily work and when the time comes for the breathing, it seems like all the remaining energy leave my body, I feel like pain all over my body and I can't even sustain the lotus position I used to take to do the breathing. So I lie down on my bed, but I fall asleep about three to five minutes after. Since I usually do the breathing in the evening after work, perhaps I am too tired but this sensation of my being totally sucked is really new, I never experienced something like this in the past, even back to time when I was sleeping only four to five hours a night.
I will be doing it earlier this week-end to see if there is any difference.
I have also not yet studied my diet, for various reasons I can not for now, but am considering giving it a go next month, so perhaps the low energy is coming from there. The introduction of the breathing program should have caused some imbalances to show up.

 

[RedFox]

I can barely comprehend the effects the Eiriu Eolas program. Cannot compute. There is too much happening too fast. I am reacting occasionally, because i can assimilate only a minimal amount of new body & mental states, new sensations, new forms of perception. I am trying to cope, but it is too much. I don't know who i am anymore.

Hi forge
It would probably be worth stopping the Full E-E program for a while and just sticking to the pipe breathing and Prayer Of The Soul (POTS). These are the most important parts as they relax and heal you.
Once the whirl wind seems to have settled a bit try reintroducing the full program once a week. If it gets too much again cut out the bio-energetic/round breathing part for a while.
If you want you can even try doing the POTS twice a day (I find it very energising in the morning sometimes).

I have not been able to do the breathing as I would have wanted to for some weeks now. My energy level seems to be just at the minimum to allow me handle my daily work and when the time comes for the breathing, it seems like all the remaining energy leave my body, I feel like pain all over my body and I can't even sustain the lotus position I used to take to do the breathing. So I lie down on my bed, but I fall asleep about three to five minutes after. Since I usually do the breathing in the evening after work, perhaps I am too tired but this sensation of my being totally sucked is really new, I never experienced something like this in the past, even back to time when I was sleeping only four to five hours a night.
I will be doing it earlier this week-end to see if there is any difference.
I have also not yet studied my diet, for various reasons I can not for now, but am considering giving it a go next month, so perhaps the low energy is coming from there. The introduction of the breathing program should have caused some imbalances to show up.

Hi Marcus
I had exactly the same thing happen to me during the first month or two of doing the full program. It may be worth following the above advice as well, as I think that they are two examples of the same thing....basically too much stuff coming up to process in one go (the energetic equivalent of the detox herxhimer reaction perhaps).
Changing my diet also helped me immensely, removing gluten (wheat) seems to have been a large factor for me along with making sure my body has enough of the vitamins and minerals it needs (check out the Ultra Mind Quiz in the Diet and Health section to narrow down what your body needs).

 

[Turgon]

Just an update on what's been going on with the EE Program in the last while.

For one, I haven't 'zoned out' during a session in quite a while, although last night/this morning I did experience, at times, during the Beatha and POTS, the sense of going 'deeper' into the meditation. But I believe it might have been because of me focusing more on the present moment, and not getting excessively caught up in thoughts. Mind you, I have gone in deeper before, but everytime I did, It would always freak me out a bit and I would instinctively shake myself out of it, only to later wish I didn't do that.

The one thing I find interesting that really messes me up on the Monday's and Thursday's is the fact that I build up those full program days in my head, and I can never sit still, focus or concentrate as well as the days when I do Pipe Breathes and POTS. Almost as if I expect something to happen, yet I don't on the other days of the shortened program. So last night, which was technically, this morning 12:30am, I started my Pipe Breathes/POTS before going to sleep, but for some reason during Pipe breathing, I just felt 'right' and decided, what the heck, its technically Thursday anyway, I'm just going to do the whole program.

And it actually went very well in the sense, that I didn't really expect much, just did the program, focused on body, I felt relaxed, almost no fidgeting during Beatha. During the POTS I had a vision of a woman's lips, which immediately changed, during the Be my Daily Bread, As I give bread to others, to the vision of a woman pouring, what looked like purple sand or small purple gems into a bowl, only to have her face appear in front of me and look at me. She had dark hair, and from my standpoint, was beautiful.

Emotionally, I haven't felt excessively depressed or anything like that lately. Sometimes after a full session I will feel a bit sad, but nothing major like what occurred in September and early/mid October. I initially, went from bouts of anger to severe depression, back and forth. I had real trouble interacting with anybody! I just couldn't socialize very well at all, and felt so isolated, not only from friends and family, but the forum as well. Recently though, I have been focusing on keeping my inner sensations below the neck, and I think by doing so, subjective fanstasies and daydreaming has decreased, and those ridiculous fantasies have a way of becoming so real for me, that I act as if they are true, regardless of whether there is any truth to them or if I have proof or data to back it up. I think I've been preventing my Lower Intellectual Centre from usurping energy, so I definitely have to thank you, Trevrizent for posting the excerpts from Mouravieff and Ouspensky. I've been attempting to put some of what I read into practice and seeing what the side-effects are.

 

[wanderer]

Last night I did the full program, and after a few rounds of POTS I completely lost consciousness, coming to much later, after the audio program had ended. I've struggled with falling asleep in meditation for years, but this seemed different. Usually the experience feels like drifting into a dreamy, subconscious state, and there is still a level of awareness. This was more like a light being switched off, I have no memory of any transition at all, and wasn't groggy when I returned. From the FAQs I see that zoning out could be a good thing.

Q: (L) A number of people on the forum have talked about the zoning out thing, the, ya know... while still awake seemingly, losing all awareness of self and just kind of zoning out. What is this phenomenon?

A: See previous answer and think of it as spending "time" with the higher self/teacher instead of wasting the ability to dissociate on futile illusions. Also remember that "time" spent in this process utilizes this "soul ability" as it was originally intended. It taxes the soul greatly to be embodied.

But, then again sometimes a cigar is just a cigar and I may have just been tired and fell asleep.

I've added some time after POTS to add a personal prayer (when I manage to stay conscious all the way through). I'm praying to be delivered from my personality, and it seems to be helping.

 

[Ollie]

An update for the week.

What I've noticed is that I have much more energy this week, for the first time in a long time, I feel in charge of what I'm doing, in my life: proactive, as opposed to reactive.

With the Ba-Ha breathing, there is still a tendency to 'zone out', to stop the breathing, and the need to get it back. Wet eyes throughout, and for the sleeping sessions, I've noticed that on the first awakening my eyes are wet too.

 

[abstract]

I too am having much more energy lately, especially since starting a job, taking some of the financial stress off my back. I'm being kinder towards other people, more open, more understanding, more accepting, but also (one of the best things) it's easier to absorb information and i think more efficiently. I'm observing myself more and more and the strange thing is, as I understand myself more and more, it's easier to recognize patterns of other peoples' behavior! But I believe this is also because of the fabulous articles i find on this forum, "knowledge input on a continual basis" is most helpful.

I also have been experimenting with doing different things from the program depending on what i'm doing. If i'm at work, I can pipe breath or do a gentle round breathing. Before work, and sometimes before bed, the prayer of the soul comes in handy, it's relaxing and it lifts my spirits. Warriors breath is good for in the morning or as a quick little refresher during the day.

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

Thank you Redfox, for your comment and advices I will make sure to try them and see what will happen.
Thanks.

 

[Zadius Sky]

Anyway, I've felt more motivated to do stuff, and have FINALLY been exercising more!

This is similar to mine. For the last month, I've felt motivated to go out and join local hiking groups and hike wherever I can. I never hike before, but I found it to be refreshing and fun.

Other than that, my EE program experiences of recent includes more crying/releasing due to my feelings of alienation and being "misfit" all of my life due to my hearing disability. I've never really got to term with it, and it's hard to.

 

[forge]

If you want you can even try doing the POTS twice a day (I find it very energising in the morning sometimes).

Thank you for the advice. The meditation is beginning to be more relaxing and i can go deeper, i really like that.

 

[anothermagyar]

[QUOTE author=Bohort]Well, during my meditation yesterday night, i asked the Divine Cosmic Mind to help me and if it was possible to cleanse and purify what my body wasW trying to eliminate with so much difficulty.

After the meditation, i had no pain and i felt that my arm had less tension. Sunday morning when i woke up, as surprising as it might seem, i was able to raise my arm and all the pain was gone.[/QUOTE]

Wow!
This is great! I'm glad, Bohort you have no pain anymore!

Also gives me hope. Lately since Candida attacked me very badly aprox. two weeks ago the result of the detox-diet it kicked in, I can't focus on breathing and meditation deeply enough because I get skin crawls and ich and my legs are flinching.
Driving me crazy! My self-pity kick in and gets even worse.
I'm going to try your method, Bohort and ask Divine Cosmic mind to help overcome of my health issue.
I just started Candida treatment now.

 

[Mona]

I just wanted to comment on my experience with EE breathing meditation. Right away when I start doing it my salivary glands go crazy; I constantly have a lot of saliva in my mouth. This makes it a little difficult for me to do the breathing exercises in unisom as I have to swallow the saliva quite often. I also yawn a lot. The yawning part can be a litlle distracting to others (my mom and a friend have also joined me in these meditation exercises). I also remember my dreams almost every night; some of them can be quite strange but then I have always had strange dreams my whole life, they can be very vivid, colorful. Just a few nights ago I had a dream that I went to see my optician. As I was looking thorough my left eye my vision was not clear. I lied down on the operating table, the optician did something minor in my eye and when I looked through it I could see clearly. It was strange not seeing through my left eye and then all of a sudden the vision was clear. It felt quite real. Sometimes I feel like my dreams are more real than this 3D experience I am going through.

My mom has become a little more upset lately, at times she can feel aggressive (she feels like slapping someone sometimes, I try to stay away from her when that happens :O) even though she is a gentle soul, her mood swings have become quite extreme. My friend has not had any strange experiences so far. she just feels more sleepy.

I hope EE will help me deal with my past life garbage hopefully soon. I think I have a lot of it and need to get rid of it othewise I don't think I will have a bright future. My experience with the male gender has not been that wonderful in present 3D either. I am still coping with a sexual assault that happened at 25 and various emotional abuses from various male individuals at workplaces and in personal life as well. For some reason my present life seems to attract a lot of psychopaths. I hope the EE meditaion will help with that. If that does not then nothing else will.