Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Renaissance]

This is such great news. The video is wonderful. It's up on Digg, so do digg it!

 

[mamadrama]

Yesterday, while studying for a class I came across the ancient concept of "Ba" and the Egyptian soul. I immediately thought of the "Ba" in Beatha breathing so I was curious to see if perhaps "Ha" had any relationship to this concept as well. It turns out the Egyptian "Ha" refers to the sum of the bodily parts. I found that interesting, fwiw though may it may have little or no relationship to the "Ba Ha" in EE breathing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_soul

The Ancient Egyptians believed that a human soul was made up of five parts: the Ren, the Ba, the Ka, the Sheut, and the Ib. In addition to these components of the soul there was the human body (called the ha, occasionally a plural haw, meaning approximately sum of bodily parts). The other souls were aakhu, khaibut, and khat.


The 'Ba' is in some regards the closest to the contemporary Western religious notion of a soul, but it also was everything that makes an individual unique, similar to the notion of 'personality'. (In this sense, inanimate objects could also have a 'Ba', a unique character, and indeed Old Kingdom pyramids often were called the 'Ba' of their owner). Like a soul, the 'Ba' is an aspect of a person that the Egyptians believed would live after the body died, and it is sometimes depicted as a human-headed bird flying out of the tomb to join with the 'Ka' in the afterlife.

In the Coffin Texts one form of the Ba that comes into existence after death is corporeal, eating, drinking and copulating. Louis Zabkar argued that the Ba is not part of the person but the person himself unlike the soul in Greek, or late Judaic or Christian thought. The idea of a purely immaterial existence was so foreign to Egyptian thought that when Christianity spread in Egypt they borrowed the Greek word "psyche" to describe the concept of soul and not Ba. Zabkar concludes that so peculiar was the concept of Ba to Ancient Egyptian thought that it ought not to be translated but instead the concept be footnoted or parenthetically explained as one of the modes of existence for a person.

In another mode of existence the Ba of the deceased is depicted in the Book of Going Forth by Day returning to the mummy and participating in life outside the tomb in non-corporeal form, echoing the solar theology of Re uniting with Osiris each night.[5]

The word 'bau' (b3w), plural of the word ba meant something similar to 'impressiveness', 'power', and 'reputation', particularly of a deity. When a deity intervened in human affairs, it was said that the 'Bau' of the deity were at work [Borghouts 1982]. In this regard, the ruler was regarded as a 'Ba' of a deity, or one deity was believed to be the 'Ba' of another.

 

[Ollie]

Ditto! The video is very well done. Two thumbs up imo! Thumbs up

Many thanks to all involved. This is a well informed way to refer the program to those who may be interested.

I totally agree, well done to everyone concerned with making this video.

 

[Ollie]

For further confirmation of the effect of sounding the word "Ha" on the outbreath whilst performing the Eíriú-Eolas - Breathing Program, I quote, from ancient Hawaiian Huna,

Each sound you utter has a correlating movement of lips, tongue and teeth. These movements, synchronized with the breathe, cause changes in our body. They can be soundedaloud or silently, but the muscle action should always be the same.
Here is a short list of words that relate to our breathing and can be used in conjunction with the breath to effect a change as defined in the list. ... it is very effective to sound the outgoing words as deeply as you can ...
...
Ha: the outpouring breath "transitory light." To get the point of a joke, the meaning within something, to understand what was not understood. In English this corresponds to our "Aha!"

 

[Nienna]

I've been attempting the EE program for about 3 months now, once a week (and POT most nights). Due to osteo-arthritis and osteo -porosis of the spine (and several other joints) I find the most comfortable position is to lay down during the first and last stage and only sit up when doing the reach-up-and-grab-the-air segment. With deep belly breathing I wonder if I take in enough air ( that is if there is a 'correct' amount that you need to inhale) when in this prone position.

Laying down to do these portions is fine. Whichever way is most comfortable for you. I, myself, have found that the times I do do this lying down, I seem to get quite a lot of air into my lungs so I wouldn't worry about this. The main point is to be comfortable.

Anyway, after undertaking a session I do feel a lot more relaxed, clear headed and positive for the rest of the day. The following days however it seems I go through period of sometimes intense introspection, erratic anxiety, pointless irritations and the processing of thoughts about past and present mechanical behaviour concerning interactions with family and friends. (gawd - that sounds so vague- I which I could express my impressions more cogently).

Actually, this sounds very normal. You have things going on "under the surface" so to say. You are processing repressed emotions and programs that you have. You are doing quite the bang-up job!

Motivation is a major hurdle for me mainly down to my physical condition which quite often results in tirednes, fatique and general ennui. I hope this is not begining to sound too much like a big time whinge, but I've spend 18 years trying alleviate my medical condition and tried just about every unconventional (and conventional) purported remedy out there without any real long term success. Consequently I've a somewhat jaded and jaundiced view of things regarding cures/palliatives for this illness. My uncle had the same physical symptoms, restricted torso and head/neck movements and it seems likely there's some genetic factor involved. Sometimes, it just seems to be the way things are 'designed' on this planet - to break you, either mentally, emotionally, spiritually or physically.

I really agree with you on this. And if you read the book by Sidney M. Baker Detoxification and Healing, you will find that, yes, genetics is a factor in what diseases we get or don't get. And when you add i all of the toxins in our food, water, air we breath, space we live and work in - criminy, it's no wonder we are all in sad shape.

You may find that book to be very informative. Have you looked at the Diet and Health section here? Have you tried the UltraSimple Diet and eliminating various foods from you diet and then bringing them in one by one to see if you have a reaction to them? Are you taking supplements?

I, too, have a few health problems and through using various detoxifying techniques (food and Farinrfrared blanket, supplements) I have had quite a bit of improvement. I still have a long way to go, but I've had these problems for many years so I don't expect amazing results instantaneously. But there has been improvement.

Without harping on to long about my medical condition I've found heat helps whether from sunlight or hot baths. ( I was once told by an accupuncturist treating me that my body too cool /cold). Fresh air, particularly sea air also appears to be of benefit.

Anyway, I just hope to continue the EE program to reach and retain an improved positive, relaxed mental mood and outlook.

Sorrry, if some off this is off topic - but sometimes it helps just to let it all spill out (osit).

I think that you will be surprised how much doing the EE program will help you. I do suggest you look at Detoxification and Healing and also the threads on the Diet and Health board.

Good luck! :)

 

[Cyre2067]

Seems like everyone is coming along nicely. I wish I could keep up with this thread more, a lot going on in my film for the past few weeks so I'm still just trying to keep my vigilance up and stay focused where I need to. Just to give an idea, a friends mom died, a potential rekindling with my ex which crashed and burned horribly, started a master's program which entails a lot of reading and some roommate drama which I just posted about and got excellent feedback on.

My progress with EE has been more back-burner. It seemed I had a few wild rides towards the beginning of the program, but things have more or less evened out and the program has been much more relaxing. In retrospect I was having mixed feelings. On one hand I was 'getting a lot' out of it in terms of flashes of awareness, emotional purging and release, and painful realizations about past dynamics, mostly within my family. It was like all the reading on narcissism really primed the pump, so to speak, and it wasn't until EE that I really started purging all the toxic emotional baggage.

At the same time it wasn't easy. Not by any stretch. It was like standing next to a gong getting struck repeatedly. Again, I'm only really seeing my hesitancy to practice the program in retrospect, since I was more or less in the throws of processing/reliving all that 'stuff'. Its odd too because I thought I needed to practice more, when in fact I needed to slow down a bit and give myself some time to deal.

I ended up doing the full program once every 1-2 weeks for the past two months or so because of all this, and I felt horribly guilty because of it. I did the meditation pretty regularly, prob 5+ times a week before bed or during afternoon naps. I also find repeating the PotS on my way to work very calming and a great way to start the day.

I did the full program last saturday and completely zoned during the PotS, it was like someone flipped a switch after the first few breaths/lines and the next thing I knew I was waking up a short time after the audio had ended. I also noticed I hadn't felt refreshed or recharged, but very tired. Like I had been doing a lot of 'heavy lifting' on the psychic level. I did the full program again tonight, and there was a distinctly new impression. I remained conscious the whole time, but had an awareness of something coming in via the top of my head. It resulted in a warm sensation spreading from my head but my feet remained cold, hands very warm and my whole upper body tingled. I'm also really exhausted, like the program again was very 'busy'.

There was another sensation which was odd and unique. I felt a consciousness inside myself retching, writhing, twisting in agony. It was during the round breathing portion and it was definitely in a lot of pain. I could fell its pain as my pain, but I could also separate myself from it. It was at that point I thought it may be an attachment so I mentally offered it the opportunity to leave. After that the sensation quit and I completely forgot about it until just now.

This program never ceases to amaze me, there's ups and downs and in betweens. For some reason I feel as if things will go more 'smoothly' from now on, as if I had gotten through the roughest parts. Not sure where that comes from though.

 

[Tigersoap]

You seems to do just fine Puck ;)

This program never ceases to amaze me, there's ups and downs and in betweens. For some reason I feel as if things will go more 'smoothly' from now on, as if I had gotten through the roughest parts. Not sure where that comes from though.

This is my experience as well, at least for the moment.
It is smoother since a good while now and I still zone out a lot and a dream a lot but most of the time these are just regular (?) symbolic dreams.
I even wonder if I still do the breathing or the POTS correctly at all !!
I don't know maybe there are phases like that before another steep hill must be climbed ?

 

[Harold]

Hello All,

Harold here. I cant find a thread on experiences with the breathing program, I have a couple questions and would like to read of others experiences. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Sincerely,
Harold

 

[vinny]

Harold here. I cant find a thread on experiences with the breathing program, I have a couple questions and would like to read of others experiences. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

this is the place: Eíriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

 

[manitoban]

You seems to do just fine Puck ;)

This program never ceases to amaze me, there's ups and downs and in betweens. For some reason I feel as if things will go more 'smoothly' from now on, as if I had gotten through the roughest parts. Not sure where that comes from though.

This is my experience as well, at least for the moment.
It is smoother since a good while now and I still zone out a lot and a dream a lot but most of the time these are just regular (?) symbolic dreams.
I even wonder if I still do the breathing or the POTS correctly at all !!
I don't know maybe there are phases like that before another steep hill must be climbed ?

Same thing for me, the whole thing is much smoother now. Your idea of the phases makes sense to me. As with the Work, maybe what happens is you sort of clear a layer, then a period of integration (which might be where we are now) followed by yes another steep hill. It's like a gradual unfolding of our true selves, a process by which we gradually remove all that is false, layer by layer.

 

[Ollie]

You seems to do just fine Puck Wink

This program never ceases to amaze me, there's ups and downs and in betweens. For some reason I feel as if things will go more 'smoothly' from now on, as if I had gotten through the roughest parts. Not sure where that comes from though.

This is my experience as well, at least for the moment.
It is smoother since a good while now and I still zone out a lot and a dream a lot but most of the time these are just regular (?) symbolic dreams.
I even wonder if I still do the breathing or the POTS correctly at all !!
I don't know maybe there are phases like that before another steep hill must be climbed?

Same thing for me, the whole thing is much smoother now. Your idea of the phases makes sense to me. As with the Work, maybe what happens is you sort of clear a layer, then a period of integration (which might be where we are now) followed by yes another steep hill. It's like a gradual unfolding of our true selves, a process by which we gradually remove all that is false, layer by layer.

I think you are both right Tigersoap and manitoban, in that there is a period of integration followed by a ‘recuperation’ period for building strength before the next ‘phase/steep hill’. This is on the basis that the Higher Self, or DCM, only operates at a pace that you are ready for, can manage, a pace that keeps you intact. What is repeatedly coming to me is: a commitment to change, to operating with trust and infinite patience, tuning in to nature, to natural rhythms, trusting that when the time is right the integration, and/or crystallization will happen.

For me patience is a heavy lesson to learn, as I guess it is for you too. :D

 

[Tigersoap]

It's like a gradual unfolding of our true selves, a process by which we gradually remove all that is false, layer by layer.

As much as the EE is smoother, the internal struggle I feel is still strongly there with ups, downs and quiet moments.
I feel a strong tension today that has been building up since two weeks but I think that my reaction to it is quite different than a few months ago or at least my perception of my reactions is different.
fwiw.

[quote author=Trevirzent]For me patience is a heavy lesson to learn, as I guess it is for you too.[/quote]

Ah jeez yes...
I don't have the time to be patient !! :D
I guess it's the "I need I want it now" child part who is fussing ;)

 

[Ollie]

On Sunday evening I experienced a long zoning out during PotS whilst listening to Laura’s voice. This was followed on Monday morning by the most ‘productive’ sauna session that I have ever experienced, with sweat pouring off me from early on in the session. For the rest of the day a lot of ‘clearing out of the body’ occurred. It would appear that something shifted in that Sunday session for all of this to happen so productively.

Staying with the sauna, another curious thing happened on the Thursday morning session (Monday and Thursday being the only days I take ‘maintenance’ saunas during the week). Just after halfway through the session, my ‘body’ seemed to be telling me to get out. At first I thought it was a repeat of a minor panic attack, something to do with suffocation (past life?). So, I decided to ‘tough it out’, refuse to give in to my fear, and see the session through to its conclusion, despite my ‘body’ indicating (shouting?) ‘get out, get out’. On packing away the sauna blanket I noticed a scorch mark on the outer lower cover (the location close to where I reported an itching shin before). On investigation inside the cover, a ‘charred rod’ was visible where it had burnt through one layer, scorching the outer and ‘dust’ marking the inner (this was intact and nothing showed inside on the surface next to my skin). Anything to do with watching the five youtube videos (Evidence of Revision: The assassination of Kennedy and Oswald) the evening before, I wonder?

Needless to say, the supplier is replacing the sauna blanket, the event seemed quite abnormal to the person I spoke to. A lucky escape, is this a message to me about something? Burns, I think indicate incensed anger, guilt and punishment.

A narrow escape! Learning: listen and take note of what your ‘body’ is telling you to do; it knows better than you intellectual man!

For the rest of the week the morning and evening sessions listening to Laura’s voice during PotS were characterised by copious tears streaming down my face. It would appear that something ‘mega’ is possibly happening.

N.B. Note to self: avoid anticipation.

 

[RedFox]

Excellent video Burma!
I think you guys are right about the cycle......I've been feeling utter exhausted for a while now. Last night I did a few things...I took some colloidal silver (although that hadn't helped so far....but in case it was a virus I took some anyway). I asked for help during the POTS, trying to get to the bottom of this fatigue. I then noticed that I'd just been going through the motions when it comes to the POTS....so I focused on the words as best I could, and went to sleep after the recording finished.
I woke up feeling fantastic!! First time in a month I'd felt this good.
I read what you guys wrote about cycles, and it feels like I've reached a plateau for the moment....but only just got there last night! lol
My sensitivity to food that is bad for me has increased quite a lot too.....seems its up to me to make a decision to either suffer or go all out on the diet now.
One last observation, it seems that pipe breathing and the POTS seems to generate quite a considerable amount of heat in me (mostly my upper body), or so it seems.

Staying with the sauna, another curious thing happened on the Thursday morning session (Monday and Thursday being the only days I take ‘maintenance’ saunas during the week). Just after halfway through the session, my ‘body’ seemed to be telling me to get out. At first I thought it was a repeat of a minor panic attack, something to do with suffocation (past life?). So, I decided to ‘tough it out’, refuse to give in to my fear, and see the session through to its conclusion, despite my ‘body’ indicating (shouting?) ‘get out, get out’. On packing away the sauna blanket I noticed a scorch mark on the outer lower cover (the location close to where I reported an itching shin before). On investigation inside the cover, a ‘charred rod’ was visible where it had burnt through one layer, scorching the outer and ‘dust’ marking the inner (this was intact and nothing showed inside on the surface next to my skin). Anything to do with watching the five youtube videos (Evidence of Revision: The assassination of Kennedy and Oswald) the evening before, I wonder?

Needless to say, the supplier is replacing the sauna blanket, the event seemed quite abnormal to the person I spoke to. A lucky escape, is this a message to me about something? Burns, I think indicate incensed anger, guilt and punishment.

Perhaps the symbolism is....if you push to much you may burn out? Paying attention to what our bodies are telling us seems to be more and more important at the moment. Patience and gentleness....and 'listening' (clear my ears that I may hear) seem to be the keys.
The connection to your shin that was itching is really quite interesting though. Perhaps whatever was causing the itching caused the wire to burn out??

 

[andi]

I want to say something that came to mind yesterday night while doing the breathing ...
-my Grandfather is doing the EE for more than 40 years.

I just made the connection now. When I was young, about 8 years old I think, and I have a very clear picture in my head of this just as if it happened yesterday, I use to put things into his mouth while he was napping as I was full of energy and had to do something. And I remember how he used to sleep - he was laying on bed almost half body on the floor and the other on the bed, he was on his back with his mouth open. What is striking now that I made the connection is that he did and probably still does exactly as we do in the EE program, only unconsciously/naturally.

He was breathing in through the nose very hardly, kind of constricted and was exhaling by the mouth, which I thought it was funny. When he was exhaling, you could hear that haaah noise ... and I will not forget this, his belly was so round and sticking out and it was always funny to watch and see how much it was expanding. And all of this while sleeping. And he is a very health man, alive and still strong.

Let's not exaggerate here, he was snoring also and sometimes chocking with his own breath ... But I thought it's got good similarities and it's interesting to note that those people most closer to nature have a good and natural breathing technique.