Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Nienna]

Just a thought, but sometimes it's happened to me that I've gotten run down from too much work, but I don't get sick until the day I finally stop working and rest. That's when I'd get sick. The virus or sickness was already there but it's like the body waits until there is the time and space to heal before the symptoms begin. Maybe the full EE gave your body the signal that it's now time to heal?
This might be totally off, and maybe it is incomplete detox or something else entirely, but fwiw.

Thanks Manitoban.
I think I have to take care of myself better than I do and listen to my body when I need rest and also pay attention to my emotions because it's all linked imho.
I was wondering how come despite the EE program and trying to really eat better I was still able to be run down by stress, maybe there is something I don't do properly and I have to figure out what exactly.

I am thinking that if you are very overstressed, continually, and don't take care of yourself, physically and mentally, things are going to catch up with you. I don't know if, maybe, you were thinking that because you are doing EE that you can add to your stress load and not be affected. I think this thinking is in error, if this is what you may have, even subconsciously, been thinking.

We need to always be taking care of our health, physically, mentally and emotionally, as much as possible, and EE is one of those ways. Working on ourselves, eating a healthy diet and getting plenty of rest, are other ways to contribute to a healthy lifestyle.

If you have an old, worn-out car and you replace a part here and a part there, it doesn't mean that you can take a tire iron and beat the car and expect the car to not get damaged, yes? :) You still need to be vigilant and take care of how you treat the car.

My 2 cents.

P.S. Tigersoap, you said that you are not doing the whole program. Are you doing the pipe breathing every day? Just wondering as this is what helps with the stress load.

 

[Tigersoap]

I am thinking that if you are very overstressed, continually, and don't take care of yourself, physically and mentally, things are going to catch up with you. I don't know if, maybe, you were thinking that because you are doing EE that you can add to your stress load and not be affected. I think this thinking is in error, if this is what you may have, even subconsciously, been thinking....
...P.S. Tigersoap, you said that you are not doing the whole program. Are you doing the pipe breathing every day? Just wondering as this is what helps with the stress load.

Hi Nienna,

Yeah this is the case but I always had difficulty to take a rest, unless I am really too tired. I don't think it was conscious because although the EE has incredible benefits I know it has to be followed with a healthy diet and taking proper care of oneself.
I took way too much jobs because I thought I could handle it and I have a big fear of not doing anything/being productive which blinds me to when I need to take a break.

One funny thing I did not mention is that two days before I had written a short sentence to remember an idea on my mobile phone which was "resistance is futile" (like the Borgs) and I spelled it "rest is futile" . When it's that I clear maybe I should pay more attention :)

I am doing the pipe breathing and the POTS every night (and the pipe breathing during the day if I remember) and the Baha, the pipe breathing and the POTS on Monday and Thursday.

Thank you ;)

 

[Regulattor]

Just reporting my latest EE experiences.

Secondly, I have noticed some kind of whitish "smoke" around me. Rising from my legs for example. And generally perceiving it in my surroundings during breathing exercises. Don't know what it is, but keep watching and reporting further.

Hello Regulattor,
I too have noticed this whitish "smoke" as well, but mine seems to be located around my chest area during EE.
I also recall seeing this same type of wavy, whitish, smoke, very faintly around my hands. It usually happens at night when I'm in bed. I find it very curious. Now, I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me but I could swear to you, I see sparks ignite ever so often within this wavy white smoke. Weird huh?

Yeah, and often when I am lying in my bed it's just like you described, some kind of weird transparent, wavy white fire like tongues and sparks, flying and zigzagging above me. I was thinking so far, that this can be mild hallucination, due melatonin intake prior to my sleep, but that's just guessing.

Which than, brings to mind an odd occurrences of lately. It seems more often than not, I would be in a grocery store and every time I touch something of metal I get a shock. I mean it was getting to a point where I was giving great attention NOT to touch anything metal, even the cart I cover up my hands with my sleeves. It's more annoying than anything else. That ever happen to you?
However, there was this one time, where I went into this mystical ornament type store, hoping to find some crystal (when the mood hits me i go searching for crystals... strange I know) but I found one, it was about 2 inches long and about 1/2 inch thick, it was beautiful, the tip was mostly crystal clear with interesting inclusion in it. I asked the clerk that was the one I wanted in the showcase. So he brought it out and handed to me and I looked over it with glee, but as I was handing it back to him, the clerk yipes as if he got a shock and than, he looks at me with suspicion and says to me, "Did you do that?". I was surprised myself in what just happened, let alone think that I had something to do with it, so I simply replied "it wasn't me!" After that, he took my money and wrapped the crystal, rather quickly if I might add and said nothing more, not even a "thank you".
I thought no more about it but it's one of those things you really don't forget about, you know?
Just sharing my experiences with you.
okiron

No, so far I didn't have such experience except with shopping carts. But in this case I think it's pretty usual stuff. Since crystals are way out of my league I can't tell you anything significant, sorry.

 

[Juba]

160 days of EE; REPORT

1. Still feeling depressed

Hello Ljubica, do you feel depressed since about 160 days, or is it a feeling that occurs during the "beatha" (bioenergetic) breathing part of the EE program?

And do you know this topic already: Serotonin Deficiency Syndrome?

Sorry Gawan, for late reply, let me answer on your question, depressions started with daily EE practice (the whole program), if I use Beatha part of the program only once per week than "depression feeling" is gone, but feeling less energized and having more migraines, I guess depression is just another form of "seeing all and feeling all from STS world". Interesting part is; if I do whole EE program before going to sleep than I will have scary and vivid dreams but in the morning I will be more than fine although a bit shaky sometimes even confused with all the dreams but w/o depressions, if I do whole program during the day than depression feeling will start somewhat after the end of the program and will fade away with everyday duties in few hours. Thanks for the Serotonin Deficiency Syndrome thread, I can recognise one thing and that is stress lifestyle, actually I'm working in extremely stressful environment, I'm Executive Housekeeper on board cruisedhip, running department of 184 people and 8-10 managers, basically I'm at home less than 3 months per year and the rest is work, work and more work, and right now I should be enjoying myself with friends and family but I'll have to quit my vacation and start with new company so more stress after all.
PS: Intersting part from the thread about; Exposure to pesticides, PCBs (polychlorinated biphenols) and some plastics can also advance serotonin and tryptophan depletion, well I'm not in touch with pesticides but with all kind of harmful and toxic chemicals, for cleaning, degreesing, protection, coating and sanitation...,...

 

[Iron]

One thing that I noticed about the program is that sometimes I have been given the opportunity of dealing with totally opposite reactions within myself.
Normally Im very calm and laid back, but lately I am somewhat more anxious, giving me the opportunity to understand people more anxious and to empathize more easily, all in all the feelings are more under control.

Edit: Now that I am considering... my irritability may have nothing to do with the EE, and maybe with the amped pressure that the "shadow team" is putting on everyone on the planet.

 

[truth seeker]

Just reporting my latest EE experiences.

Secondly, I have noticed some kind of whitish "smoke" around me. Rising from my legs for example. And generally perceiving it in my surroundings during breathing exercises. Don't know what it is, but keep watching and reporting further.

Hello Regulattor,
I too have noticed this whitish "smoke" as well, but mine seems to be located around my chest area during EE.
I also recall seeing this same type of wavy, whitish, smoke, very faintly around my hands. It usually happens at night when I'm in bed. I find it very curious. Now, I don't know if my eyes are playing tricks on me but I could swear to you, I see sparks ignite ever so often within this wavy white smoke. Weird huh?

Yeah, and often when I am lying in my bed it's just like you described, some kind of weird transparent, wavy white fire like tongues and sparks, flying and zigzagging above me. I was thinking so far, that this can be mild hallucination, due melatonin intake prior to my sleep, but that's just guessing.

A few days ago, I walked into the kitchen and could swear I saw what looked like a tiny comet/shooting star thing in white. It left as quickly as it came.

 

[Nienna]

Sorry Gawan, for late reply, let me answer on your question, depressions started with daily EE practice (the whole program), if I use Beatha part of the program only once per week than "depression feeling" is gone, but feeling less energized and having more migraines, I guess depression is just another form of "seeing all and feeling all from STS world". Interesting part is; if I do whole EE program before going to sleep than I will have scary and vivid dreams but in the morning I will be more than fine although a bit shaky sometimes even confused with all the dreams but w/o depressions, if I do whole program during the day than depression feeling will start somewhat after the end of the program and will fade away with everyday duties in few hours.

You may already be aware of this, and if so, I apologize, but it may benefit you to only do the entire EE program two times a week. This was decided by Laura quite a while ago as doing the whole program more, and especially daily, causes an intense release of repressed emotions. It is much gentler on you if you cut back the entire program to Mondays and Thursdays, which is when a majority of the forum members are doing the entire program.

It is suggested that you do daily the three-stage breathing, say in the morning, along with the Warrior's breathe if you desire, and then doing the POTS every night before going to bed.

Try this for a while and see how things go.

So, to recapitulate, you would be doing the three-stage breathing and Warrior's Breathe every morning, POTS every night before bed and the whole program on Mondays and Thursdays.

 

[Juba]

Sorry Gawan, for late reply, let me answer on your question, depressions started with daily EE practice (the whole program), if I use Beatha part of the program only once per week than "depression feeling" is gone, but feeling less energized and having more migraines, I guess depression is just another form of "seeing all and feeling all from STS world". Interesting part is; if I do whole EE program before going to sleep than I will have scary and vivid dreams but in the morning I will be more than fine although a bit shaky sometimes even confused with all the dreams but w/o depressions, if I do whole program during the day than depression feeling will start somewhat after the end of the program and will fade away with everyday duties in few hours.

You may already be aware of this, and if so, I apologize, but it may benefit you to only do the entire EE program two times a week. This was decided by Laura quite a while ago as doing the whole program more, and especially daily, causes an intense release of repressed emotions. It is much gentler on you if you cut back the entire program to Mondays and Thursdays, which is when a majority of the forum members are doing the entire program.

It is suggested that you do daily the three-stage breathing, say in the morning, along with the Warrior's breathe if you desire, and then doing the POTS every night before going to bed.

Try this for a while and see how things go.

So, to recapitulate, you would be doing the three-stage breathing and Warrior's Breathe every morning, POTS every night before bed and the whole program on Mondays and Thursdays.

Thanks Nienna Eluch, I'll contine as you explained. :)

 

[celtic]

I realize when I do the Eiriu Eolas I tend to have deep rooted memories come up. Yesterday while doing the bioenergetic
breathing a memory came up of me when I was little. It was when I use to go to the zoo and their was a little farm where
you can go and rud and pet the animals.

This happened twice things that happened to me when I was little which I would not think about know. I guest the Eiriu Eolas
also repairs your memory system.

 

[Risen]

Yes , that is exactly what is keeping me from attempting to do the program again. There is something from my childhood that I am very reluctant to remember. I know that when it surfaces, it will not be so bad. Remembering it will be healing for me. I am just certain that I will need to be able to get some comfort and support when it happens and I do not have faith that I will be able to accept or trust anyone enough to receive that comfort from them. I have some very deep rooted trust issues, like everyone else who has been badly scarred in childhood. There was a time years ago when I first read ISOTM that I would spontaneously reach a blissful state and bad memories would be released without pain, I would actually laugh with joy and relief when a memory would surface. I think what I am afraid of is a trigger that was hypnotically implanted-" you will die if you remember this". So I wait for the right moment to come when I am brave enough to face it wide awake and aware.
I know that one of the most common ocd phobias is about "bad breath". I wonder if this is actually people's minds trying to tell them, "you have bad breathing habits" as opposed to a bad smelling breath.

 

[Alana]

Yes , that is exactly what is keeping me from attempting to do the program again. There is something from my childhood that I am very reluctant to remember. I know that when it surfaces, it will not be so bad. Remembering it will be healing for me.

Keep in mind opossum, that you won't remember anything too traumatic if you are not emotionally ready to bear it. And that you always have pipe breathing and the meditation to relax and heal you. Our repressed traumatic childhood experiences might not be seen as traumatic from our present adult perspective, but they were for the child we've been. You could allow the child within to feel it again, and the grown up in you could take care of that child and its needs. As Laura says in her EE intro, we each have oceans of sorrow inside us. Little by little we'll have to release them.

I am just certain that I will need to be able to get some comfort and support when it happens and I do not have faith that I will be able to accept or trust anyone enough to receive that comfort from them. I have some very deep rooted trust issues, like everyone else who has been badly scarred in childhood. There was a time years ago when I first read ISOTM that I would spontaneously reach a blissful state and bad memories would be released without pain, I would actually laugh with joy and relief when a memory would surface. I think what I am afraid of is a trigger that was hypnotically implanted-" you will die if you remember this". So I wait for the right moment to come when I am brave enough to face it wide awake and aware.

Our minds have been conditioned to be fearful of remembering or relieving old wounds. My suggestion for now is to allow your body to take charge, and do what it needs to do for your overall well-being. And whatever lies under there, won't come 'till you are ready to face it. I have had many emotional releases and memory-come-backs during and because of the EE practice. It's always gentle, and eventually, freeing. It is also very empowering when you realize that fears do not have a hold of you anymore, you are in charge. And i understand your issues with trust. I too had/have them. This is a safe place, we all care for each other and one another's progress. This includes you :) You have nothing to lose if you try us out ;)

I hope this helps you opossum.

 

[henry]

opossum, I agree with what Alana has written. Our body is very wise. It knows what and how much we can take. That is the power of EE. It is getting ourselves in touch with that higher part of ourselves that knows what is best for us. As you do more and more EE, you’ll learn to trust it because you’ll see how it works in action.

Keep going at it. You’ll not regret it. :)

 

[Risen]

Okay, I am going to try again, at least part of it. I have been crying all day, possibly in preparation. It is good crying if that makes sense. I have to work tonight and I am feeling a little dread about it but I know I should go to work and am feeling some feeling of peace about it. Tonight I will try again. I believe you (all) care about me. That makes a difference.

 

[ignis.intimus]

Okay, I am going to try again, at least part of it. I have been crying all day, possibly in preparation. It is good crying if that makes sense. I have to work tonight and I am feeling a little dread about it but I know I should go to work and am feeling some feeling of peace about it. Tonight I will try again. I believe you (all) care about me. That makes a difference.

Hang in there opossum! We are all rooting for each other here. :)

Like Galahad said, you will not regret continuing the EE program.

 

[manitoban]

Okay, I am going to try again, at least part of it. I have been crying all day, possibly in preparation. It is good crying if that makes sense.

It does make sense. I can relate to that feeling of "good crying", it's like a letting go and release of all that stress and stored up pain.

I have to work tonight and I am feeling a little dread about it but I know I should go to work and am feeling some feeling of peace about it. Tonight I will try again. I believe you (all) care about me. That makes a difference.

We do! The group is behind you all the way.