Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[OrangeScorpion]

I noticed in a few past sessions deep pressure in the chest after (vigorous) Ba Ha round breathing. Kind a like what you are describing. Haven't experienced it lately. It seemed to peak up in a few sessions and then disappeared. No experience with the sweats though.

Thanks LQB I stay quiet.

If you have just started EE I think it could simply be a detox symtpom. Why it is only your right leg sure is strange. I found this article that could be of some help:

Thanks Enaid, I understand that sweat is a form of detox but why sweat just my right leg? I have a lot of curiosity since I'm paraplegic and I can't move my legs and I think that it must be something important that I must find out.

Well, something else to think... lol ;D

 

[Aiming]

Thanks Enaid, I understand that sweat is a form of detox but why sweat just my right leg?

Sorry for stating the obvious. Maybe our doc Psyche has an idea on this?

 

[celtic]

I have been doing the EE regularly for the past 3 weeks or so. I have a lot of ringing in my ears lately while doing the BA HA and yesterday I notice a speed in time. This happened while I was doing the regular breathing laying down the it seems that the prayer of the soul went by a lot faster than it should.

Also while doing the regurlar breathing some old memories that I haven't thought of in years came to my mind. Some of the memories were even detailed it was like I was taping in some memory bank or drive. My memory has improved a little and my attention span grew I just wanted to share with you my progress with the EE.

That's great to hear! Keep at it. The irregularities in time are normal. You probably zoned out during POTS. Sometimes a few second feels longer, other times 20 minutes goes by in a blink of an eye.

I second DanielS. Good to read, EE is helping you! It is really powerful, isn't it? It provides us with what is needed in order to cope better with life and reality, be it through improvement of memory and attention, more energy etc. Keep on the good work! :)

Thank you Daniels and Learner. And it could just been time passing over my head because most of the time I was focused on the old memories that was manifesting. And when you are really focused on something then time goes by quickly.

 

[Mark7]

Hello all, I'm doing the EE breathing now - it's getting easier but I have some issues with pain and tension when holding my hands at the various positions - I have started an exercise program as I am out of shape, and am following as much of the detox advice as I can.

I find that the POTS really allows me to focus and quiet my thoughts, so much truth and purity in these words. Unlike the meditation I have done in the past EE allows me to concentrate on breathing and my mind does not wander as much as it has with other meditation techniques.

I am getting tingling in my face, hands and feet. No great emotional releases but I do feel very alert and relaxed.

 

[Gawan]

I decided to swap from tea to water from our current filter system again, based on the infos of the thread about Water. It feels okay now. It made sense to me, that the minerals the body can use best are connected with food - the body draws them from plants f.ex. and can better utilize them rather than those from other sources like mineral or tap water, where the minerals are dissolved out of rocks. And minerals can also be supplemented additionally: currently I take magnesium plus vitamin B complex as well as Omega 3 1000 fishoil capsules. For more supplementation I simply lack the money currently. I also got a hold of my drinking issues: I make sure to have the 1 liter jug full of filtered water next to me at least two times a day.

That's fantastic! :)

I have to admit, I didn't do the last two sessions on Thursday and Monday, but respectively the day after as I didn't manage the other way.

Whatever is most comfortable for you, think more of a -could do- on these days. :)

Hello all, I'm doing the EE breathing now - it's getting easier but I have some issues with pain and tension when holding my hands at the various positions - I have started an exercise program as I am out of shape, and am following as much of the detox advice as I can.

Can you do it also without the hands? Especially laying down, it should be more easy getting air into the upper lungs. The hands and arms are mainly used to give you a feeling where to breath in and to make it easier to breath in (lifting your ribcage).

 

[Niall]

Hello all, I'm doing the EE breathing now - it's getting easier but I have some issues with pain and tension when holding my hands at the various positions - I have started an exercise program as I am out of shape, and am following as much of the detox advice as I can.

Hi Mark,

Just to check, are you speaking of the placement of the hands during the three-stage breathing?

I too found it uncomfortable to hold my arms upwards during this exercise and performed it without raising my arms (and even lying down sometimes) for a few months.

I think the important thing is that you're comfortable. The placement of the hands helps with two things:

1. Providing a visual/sensory aid so that you know you're doing it correctly.

2. Particularly in the 2nd and 3rd stages, having the arms up at the chest naturally expands the rib cage and facilitates deeper breathing.

While I was not using my arms during this exercise, I would have my eyes closed and pay attention to my belly expanding as my diaphragm moved down during the first stage. During the 2nd stage, I would simulate the exercise as if my arms were perpendicular to my chest by allowing some air to fill the middle chest area. Then same again for the third stage, only I would aim to fill the whole lungs.

I'm back to using the correct arm positions now. Hope that helps.

 

[loreta]

Since reading the June 20th session, I realized I was a "chest breather" for most of my life and it never occurred to me that this was harmful. I remember hearing the old mantra in my youth of "chest out, stomach in!" Even during my exercise and jogging I was "chest breathing". For the past two weeks I have been concentrating on relaxing my abdominal muscles so I can breath naturally as Laura described so well in the introduction. It has been very difficult to break the habit. I wonder how I breath when I am asleep?

I will begin the breathing exercises ASAP.

Thanks Laura and team for this wonderful information!!!

Me too I wanted to thank you for this program. I'm so happy that this is accessible to everyone.

About breathing with the diaphragm, I remember when I was young that my grandmother (who never went to school and had no education at all) told me that the important thing was to breath with your belly. I did not understand at that time her words, I thought she was a little crazy. Than now I know how intelligent she was. And if you look your dogs and your cats, they are all breathing with their belly. And babies too.

I started the program last week and yesterday I did all the program! I love the prayer and by the way, Laura has a beautiful voice, that's very important.

Loreta

 

[Learner]

Whatever is most comfortable for you, think more of a -could do- on these days.:)

Thanks, good idea! :)

I started the program last week and yesterday I did all the program! I love the prayer and by the way, Laura has a beautiful voice, that's very important.

Great to hear! I also like the prayer a lot. It is my favourite part, because it makes me feel really near to DCM - not that we are actually separated from DCM, it is rather like making a connection. And yes, I also find Laura's voice is lovely, a bit like a mother comforting her child, and soothing. It definitely helps relaxing and also releasing emotions.



I sometimes wondered, if Laura sings. I assume she does, as she plays piano already and is learning harp (or actually playing harp already - don't know). If I am not mistaken here. Well, that would be something, if Laura sung the prayer! If there is time, and if she sees it necessary and/or wants to do it, of course...

Other forum members recorded their singing of the POTS and put it online - quite beautiful, what I listened to already. :)

 

[loreta]

Whatever is most comfortable for you, think more of a -could do- on these days.:)

Thanks, good idea! :)

I started the program last week and yesterday I did all the program! I love the prayer and by the way, Laura has a beautiful voice, that's very important.

Great to hear! I also like the prayer a lot. It is my favourite part, because it makes me feel really near to DCM - not that we are actually separated from DCM, it is rather like making a connection. And yes, I also find Laura's voice is lovely, a bit like a mother comforting her child, and soothing. It definitely helps relaxing and also releasing emotions.



I sometimes wondered, if Laura sings. I assume she does, as she plays piano already and is learning harp (or actually playing harp already - don't know). If I am not mistaken here. Well, that would be something, if Laura sung the prayer! If there is time, and if she sees it necessary and/or wants to do it, of course...

Other forum members recorded their singing of the POTS and put it online - quite beautiful, what I listened to already. :)

VThe voice is something so vital from everyone. You are right, when Laura speaks I feel secure and in peace.

Loreta

 

[beetlemaniac]

Just want to share a lucid dream I had during pipe breathing before bed.

I was lying on my bed, pipe breathing, and since I was quite tired I felt a quick transition into the lucid dream state.
There floating at the foot of my bed was a dark cloaked creature, like a Grim Reaper. He held a spear-like weapon pointed
at my neck. I tried moving but my body was firmly fixed to the bed.

We were able to communicate 'telepathically' as I perceived it. I asked him for his name, and throughout the dream I had
asked three times, and he gave me a different one each time. I remember one of the names was "Zero". :P
He started telling me about the things which I was supposed to do but was procrastinating on, and he went on for a long time.
So I suppose this would be a personification of my stress or guilt for not performing my responsibilities.

Also, throughout the dream I had a sensation of tingling heat in my abdomen. Couldn't go back to sleep after that, was having
some minor sleep issues that I think was due to a disturbance in my sleep cycle (sleeping late during the holidays).

I haven't had any dreams like this before, and I have been always trying to find ways to understand and beat my procrastination
habit, so it was great to have a representation of the subconscious activity that goes on while I keep avoiding my work.

EE rocks my socks!

About breathing with the diaphragm, I remember when I was young that my grandmother (who never went to school and had no education at all) told me that the important thing was to breath with your belly. I did not understand at that time her words, I thought she was a little crazy. Than now I know how intelligent she was.

I really liked this story. It's great how the older generations seemed to retain an innate knowledge of their bodies.

 

[loreta]

Just want to share a lucid dream I had during pipe breathing before bed.

I was lying on my bed, pipe breathing, and since I was quite tired I felt a quick transition into the lucid dream state.
There floating at the foot of my bed was a dark cloaked creature, like a Grim Reaper. He held a spear-like weapon pointed
at my neck. I tried moving but my body was firmly fixed to the bed.

This is very interesting! I have the feeling that our nightmares are good allies that want to show us something, and we have to face to face them, withour fear but confidence and love. The other day, and since I started the program I have vivid dreams, I dreamed about Mubarak that wanted to kill me. My death was scheduled for a certain day, so I went to ask for help but nobody was paying attention to me. Finally I decide not to come back where Mubarak was, and than not to die. It is very difficult to analyse a dream, in fact its better not to do it but just listen it. And it is always about death and life. In my dream I had the choice and I took life as a choice. And it was a decision I took by myself, without the help of anybody else. In fact, taking the decision to follow this program is a decision I took without consulting anybody, I just took it because I know it is important. I think this dream came because I started the program.


Have a nice day!

Loreta

 

[Nienna]

Hello all, I'm doing the EE breathing now - it's getting easier but I have some issues with pain and tension when holding my hands at the various positions - I have started an exercise program as I am out of shape, and am following as much of the detox advice as I can.

Hi Mark,

Just to check, are you speaking of the placement of the hands during the three-stage breathing?

I too found it uncomfortable to hold my arms upwards during this exercise and performed it without raising my arms (and even lying down sometimes) for a few months.

I think the important thing is that you're comfortable. The placement of the hands helps with two things:

1. Providing a visual/sensory aid so that you know you're doing it correctly.

2. Particularly in the 2nd and 3rd stages, having the arms up at the chest naturally expands the rib cage and facilitates deeper breathing.

Mark, I too had problems with my arms and especially my thumbs when first doing 3-stage breathing. What I found helped me was to make sure my shoulders and chest were relaxed. Also, I decided to point my thumbs down towards instead of under the armpits. It really helped me to do this.

Also, after a week or so, my arm strength got better and I didn't have any pain at all in my arms or thumbs.

Hope this may be of some help to you.

There are a lot of people that do the 3-stage breathing lying down, so whatever is most comfortable for you is what you should do. :)

 

[Galaxia2002]

Hi Trevrizent, I have also started to cry while listening some songs , a cry that springs from the deepest inside my plexus, the music evokes I don't know what and I don't know why I am crying. In one of those releases, I found myself apologizing for things of the past, to whoever would have hurt. I have a doubt: it is supposed that I should to know why I am crying.? In the normal Work one need to be aware where a feeling comes from, as part of the observation process, but I can't perceive that when I feel what I said above. I can't see if it is something from my childhood.

Please can someone answer the question I made above? I want to know if as part of the process with EE technique I should to look for the cause of the crying.
Thank you

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[truth seeker]

Hi Trevrizent, I have also started to cry while listening some songs , a cry that springs from the deepest inside my plexus, the music evokes I don't know what and I don't know why I am crying. In one of those releases, I found myself apologizing for things of the past, to whoever would have hurt. I have a doubt: it is supposed that I should to know why I am crying.? In the normal Work one need to be aware where a feeling comes from, as part of the observation process, but I can't perceive that when I feel what I said above. I can't see if it is something from my childhood.

Please can someone answer the question I made above? I want to know if as part of the process with EE technique I should to look for the cause of the crying.
Thank you

It may well be from something unremembered. From a past life or childhood trauma that occurred while very young. Perhaps others will have more to add. For what it's worth, I have also had that same experience at the beginning - not really now though. Hope that helps. Let me know if you need clarification. :)

 

[Ollie]

Please can someone answer the question I made above? I want to know if as part of the process with EE technique I should to look for the cause of the crying.
Thank you

To my understanding in the E-E breathing meditation programme, the content and context is less than important, what is important is the process (EE) itself, and, this will spill over into your daily life, as you quote above (listening to music and crying). Your unconscious mind/Higher Self is doing the rest, what needs to be done, in an ecological manner. It is all part of the process, and crying indicates that change is taking place.

truth seeker makes a good point.

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