Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

[Ollie]

In an earlier post, many pages ago in this thread, I had ventured an explanation (I think it was to Trevizent): when i started practicing kinesiology, I would get very watery eyes, and my teacher told me that it was normal, that it was a sign of integration of the work, of getting rid of toxins, etc. As I became more experienced, I got them less and less (because by doing work on others, I was working on myself). Now I get them once in a while when I work on stuff I'm not used to. So maybe it's the same in this case? You may be integrating the work, healing, getting rid of psychological and physical toxins, etc.

Yes it was to me, and I've remembered it ever since, as positive; a sign of integration of some kind. It gives me hope. :D

... Excessive yawning (often with watery eyes), loud belly noises, limb twitching are other signs that the body is integrating the work. ...

And, I still get most of that as well, certainly excessive yawning and limb twitching. It's good to know that something is happening, still, after all this time doing E-E Breathing. :D

 

[dugdeep]

What I mean is that I've never had a full blown emotional release so far. I had very noticeable elevated mood the first 3 months or so; the things that used to effect my mood decreased in influence a lot.

This describes my experience too. I've been doing the EE for 6 months or so and have never had a major release - no crying, anger or need to hit pillows :D. I'm thinking that some of us are releasing things more slowly in unnoticeable stages rather than in strong bursts. There have definitely been large shifts in my life which I think can at least be partially attributed to the program; releasing of attachments or long held beliefs which lead to fundamental changes of direction. But for me, these have been happening more subtly than the emotional releases others have been describing. FWIW.

 

[forge]

How the heck am i supposed to cope with this if i wake up at night, second or third time, the heart-hammering and cramps changed into a dissolving feeling in the chest, that my heart will stop immediately while i pop awake and lying on my back but cannot, because of immediate feeling of organ failure and death, i rub my chest and breath like crazy and ask God, please please please give me little more time? Help me through this, please make my heart go on that i can continue. Strength leaving me as i sit up. What the heck should i do?? I have no money, maybe the first medical insurance check in 1.5 years has been paid with the first full salary. Weak as hell, chest rubbing, wheezing, i manage to get clothes on, call emergency, only being told that:

This is usual - "How many years old are you?" - a panic attack, sense and feeling of being annihilated, feelings also can concentrate in heart. It's all psychical, i'm overstressed i'm told and this is how it comes out, this is the symptom. I tell him the doctor said 6 years ago during a thorough heart exam EEG and ultra-sound that my heart & signals are normal, i can do physically what i want. The clerk in attendance - around 01:30am at this night - tells me i should let check myself out with my physician in ordinary.

It's very annoying that i cannot go on like planned, cannot do even the BAHA, because of immediate pressure feeling in chest inconveniences. I have to work otherwise will have no money at all, cannot miss a workday. Daytime i feel i'm exploding inside, agitated, annoyed about the fact that with the worldwide financial crash in 2008 and fewer very good paying workplaces are now occupied by my colleagues with 10 or more years of experience and me with only 1.5 years of experience standing in a low-paying job, flailing my arms helplessly and boiling with anger inside continually.

The problem is with the release, i almost cannot snob or cry. Could only sob a little now as having this panic attack. I just want to know if my heart is okay physically, but this annihilating feeling is soo overwhelming, suffocating, disabling, weakening, (as if my body is being switched off forcefully) dizzying it inducts the thoughts of immediate death when i have so much to do, have plans here in FOTCM.

Dizzy and annoyed, numb in limbs, pressure at lover left side of chest in the muscles/stomach area. Looking it up on the net i found it might be serotonin deficiency? (Donald F. Klein. 1980) Disturbance in metabolism of brain, being treated successfully with antidepressants, selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. What should i take? Because i certainly don't have time to go to doctor with this, the doctor 6 years ago prescribed a tranquilizer. Is there a healthy SSRI safe to take to ease this condition?

Thank you. I'm looking up SSRI in the forums now.

 

[Renaissance]

It's very annoying that i cannot go on like planned, cannot do even the BAHA, because of immediate pressure feeling in chest inconveniences. I have to work otherwise will have no money at all, cannot miss a workday.

The BAHA portion of the program can be contraindicative for people with certain conditions - perhaps it would be a good idea not to do or attempt doing the BAHA portion and see if the attacks lessen. In the mean time try taking an ice cold shower. People who've had panic attacks have reported positive experiences with that as it strengthens the autonomic nervous system. I'd also suggest getting on the detox diet pronto if you haven't already. Even if you don't want to take medication, it could still be a good idea to go see a doctor and see what your options are, and then research them.

 

[Renaissance]

I had an interesting sensation, one that I've not felt before, which lasted most all of the day today after doing EE last night and then listened to an extended version of POTS (and I zoned out after the first couple of rounds). I woke up on my sofa and felt incredibly light as I walked into bed for the night. The sensation I woke with in the morning is hard to describe. The best I could think of is the feeling you would get if you were to take a giant sledge hammer and strike it really hard against a massive rock. It was a semi-sharp but strong reverberating feeling, except the duration wasn't a short - it lasted until a couple of hours ago. It felt like I was a part of that rock or vice versa. When I woke up this morning, my mind was pretty quite well into the afternoon - even into the early evening. My instincts were pretty much front and center and I'd say I was a bit irritated too (not really directed towards anything though).

Has anybody had a similar experience? I made an extended version of POTS which I listen to during work and when I go to bed - is it okay to listen to this after doing the breathing program?

 

[Andromeda]

The BAHA portion of the program can be contraindicative for people with certain conditions - perhaps it would be a good idea not to do or attempt doing the BAHA portion and see if the attacks lessen. In the mean time try taking an ice cold shower. People who've had panic attacks have reported positive experiences with that as it strengthens the autonomic nervous system. I'd also suggest getting on the detox diet pronto if you haven't already. Even if you don't want to take medication, it could still be a good idea to go see a doctor and see what your options are, and then research them.

I agree with Los here. I would recommend taking a break from the BAHA and concentrating on the 3 stage and prayer/meditation. How often are you doing the program, forge?

Also, check out our health section for information on the detox diet and supplements if you haven't already. Are you currently following any health plan?

 

[Andromeda]

Another really important and long lasting effect of EE I want mention is time anxiety, that feeling of not having enough time to do what you need. I've had this most of my life and since starting EE it stopped on a dime.

I have found the same thing as well, although I can still think that I may not have the time, the stress isn't there, or at least is considerably dimmed down. That's such a relief not feeling like a running rabbit with a giant watch in his pocket.

This was my favorite immediate result. Getting rid of that constant shadow of anxiety is no small thing!!

 

[cagoule]

Last night was a good experience for me although it felt like I was distracted.

During Beatha my mind would wander off at a tangent, I'm sure I was continuing the breathing but I my inner voice was going at 100 miles per hour thinking about exams, and plans for tomorrow etc. This soon passed and I was back to thinking about my breathing and concentrating on goodness in badness out. Once I was back to concentrating on my breathing I could really feel vibrations in my forehead during exhalation, the vibrations were similar to that of a Buddhist Singing Bowl.

During POTS I fell asleep as I was really relaxed and I was cozy in bed.

 

[Gaby]

The BAHA portion of the program can be contraindicative for people with certain conditions - perhaps it would be a good idea not to do or attempt doing the BAHA portion and see if the attacks lessen. In the mean time try taking an ice cold shower. People who've had panic attacks have reported positive experiences with that as it strengthens the autonomic nervous system. I'd also suggest getting on the detox diet pronto if you haven't already. Even if you don't want to take medication, it could still be a good idea to go see a doctor and see what your options are, and then research them.

I agree with Los here. I would recommend taking a break from the BAHA and concentrating on the 3 stage and prayer/meditation. How often are you doing the program, Los?

Also, check out our health section for information on the detox diet and supplements if you haven't already. Are you currently following any health plan?

I second this advise. forge, you will benefit from the prayer and pipe breathing, but stop the BAHA portion for the time being.

Did you had a chance to do the Ultra Simple diet? http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=13241.msg153781#msg153781

Do you take basic supplementation like magnesium, Omega3s?

Check the serotonin deficiency syndrome thread as well:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17292.0

You might find your answer in our health forum section. :)

 

[Infiniteness]

I will start doing the EE program tomorrow. :D

 

[Lucius]

Another really important and long lasting effect of EE I want mention is time anxiety, that feeling of not having enough time to do what you need. I've had this most of my life and since starting EE it stopped on a dime. I just can't understand how I'm able to do more in less time and, in fact not think about time at all, especially when I'm doing things I enjoy, like reading and participating here, etc. It's a great relief not to get into a near panic over the lack of time. Just wanted to mention one more of the best things I've experienced from doing EE.

I have this same change of time view . that is great because you no worry about time and you can do more .
At work I have 3-4 project at this same time I just Love to doing it dont worry about time ;) I'm doing more in less time.

 

[forge]

Thank you all for you kind help! I'm taking magnesium 600mg and omega3 1000mg a day, stopped BAHA after Anart suggested. Being reckless i hold anger inside and carelessly let my programs cause me seethe over vain thoughts. Will check and partake in the threads and plan to quickly get a tryptophan derivative, because one night of experiencing dying and not sleeping was fun enough.

 

[Gertrudes]

Gertrudes, I've had some mucus/catarrh during EE on and off, too. I also think, in my case it was more often in the first few months, but it still happens occasionally, but I've had it on and off even before the EE program came out (and it's not only when I'm doing it) so in your case it may also be tied to Mrs. Tigersoap's hypothesis.

Mrs Tigersoap, I wonder if what you've mentioned could also explain excess mucus and catarrh.

I would say yes. Excessive yawning (often with watery eyes), loud belly noises, limb twitching are other signs that the body is integrating the work. So, even if mucus and catarrh are cumbersome, it's great to experience that sort of cleansing.

Thank you Seekin Truth and Mrs Tigersoap, that surely helps explaining it. It is peculiar that it didn't happen from the beginning but only over the last couple of months, that probably is a sign of continuous work on a level of which I am not aware of.

Another really important and long lasting effect of EE I want mention is time anxiety, that feeling of not having enough time to do what you need. I've had this most of my life and since starting EE it stopped on a dime.

I have found the same thing as well, although I can still think that I may not have the time, the stress isn't there, or at least is considerably dimmed down. That's such a relief not feeling like a running rabbit with a giant watch in his pocket.

This was my favorite immediate result. Getting rid of that constant shadow of anxiety is no small thing!!

I've also felt my anxiety levels going down quite noticeably. In my case, it isn't time related (that's still here, unfortunately), but of another type, something that was always held in my chest that would often generate fear in various situations. The feeling of anxiety seems to have transformed to anger. Despite not being pleasant, I find this anger to be somehow more empowering then the hopeless anxiety I was so used to.

This transformation has been going on for a few months now, and a few things are starting to become clearer. I think the previous anxiety was connected to not having been able to set my personal boundaries. They were repeatedly abused from a young age which led me to an underdeveloped ability to set up my boundaries in adult life. I feel as if that anger is claiming back what has been "stolen" from me. This is something that is emerging to light from very deep inside.

 

[Rhys]

A few people have mentioned muscle twitching, which is something I had not experienced until my last session. Except, it wasn't the odd twitch - my whole body was shaking considerably when doing the BAHA portion of the EE exercise. Has anyone experienced this?

The shaking didn't disrupt me but towards the end of the BAHA portion I opened my eyes and immediately got the impression of a male stood right in front of me! Again, I wasn't disrupted - I got up from where I was sat and went to lay down on my bed and do POTS. After I had finished the whole exercise I left the bedroom and prepared food to take to work. I felt the presence the whole time I was in the house until I left.

I thought nothing of it until I arrived back home and found out that my partner had not slept all night because of this same 'presence'. She felt it in the living room with her for hours, had seen its shadow in a reflection, and even said that it had plucked a string on my guitar! I had not mentioned anything to her previously as she was not in the house with me at the time.

I should mention that her brother had killed himself earlier this month, and he was in my thoughts during the round breathing. There has been no activity since. FWIW, the presence spent some time hanging around the spot I was sat in when practicing the round breathing.

 

[Lucius]

Hmm today I have noticed something new .

When I was working about new project, I was nervous for 10 sec. then something tell me don't worry I just fell this same resale emotion as when I'm doing EE - pray .I fell that all is on good trace that is great felling just You know that you are doing EE program , working, detox , reading , self obserwation.
And whatever will happened all be fine :) do you have something similar ?