Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

After meditation I cann't often regain in palm movement and I feel gentle formication. I feel it on whole body but it stops however in hands keeps long.
 
EGVG said:
I'm kinda scared to start, is that to ridiculous?? :shock:

Not ridiculous at all, EGVG. Understand, though, that you've probably built this up quite a bit in your mind. Overall, the program is gentle and I firmly believe that things will come up as you're ready to deal with them. Know, too, that you have a solid network here that will be able to help you through difficulties and that if things start moving too fast for you, you can always back off until you can incorporate what you're uncovering.

I say give it a try. It certainly won't hurt to try it once and see how you feel :) I imagine after you try it the first time you'll wonder why you ever hesitated.
 
dugdeep said:
EGVG said:
I'm kinda scared to start, is that to ridiculous?? :shock:

Not ridiculous at all, EGVG. Understand, though, that you've probably built this up quite a bit in your mind. Overall, the program is gentle and I firmly believe that things will come up as you're ready to deal with them. Know, too, that you have a solid network here that will be able to help you through difficulties and that if things start moving too fast for you, you can always back off until you can incorporate what you're uncovering.

I say give it a try. It certainly won't hurt to try it once and see how you feel :) I imagine after you try it the first time you'll wonder why you ever hesitated.

Agree. :)
 
Hello,
I am having some difficulty getting my posts to stick. Not sure I am doing something in incorrect format. So here is my question again.

Different forms of breathing exercises come with warnings about being dangerous and by attempting to modify one breathing patterns one can disrupt ones entire system. Even in G's book Remarkable Men, chapt VIII, page 188 the person he is meeting gives warning regarding messing with ones breathing. I realize that the 3 stage breathing is designed to get us breathing in a healthy way again, and Baha I am still working on getting it down. So does anyone know of the specific sides of breathing practices that are being warned about? Are there any concerns?

Thank You.
 
Wunjo said:
Hello,
I am having some difficulty getting my posts to stick. Not sure I am doing something in incorrect format. So here is my question again.

Different forms of breathing exercises come with warnings about being dangerous and by attempting to modify one breathing patterns one can disrupt ones entire system. Even in G's book Remarkable Men, chapt VIII, page 188 the person he is meeting gives warning regarding messing with ones breathing. I realize that the 3 stage breathing is designed to get us breathing in a healthy way again, and Baha I am still working on getting it down. So does anyone know of the specific sides of breathing practices that are being warned about? Are there any concerns?

Hi Wunjo.

Laura already addressed this subject here.
 
Would like to share some things.

Just done a full EE and this time I was concentrating a lot lot better. I was quite concentrated on Laura's voice and especially on the Pipe breathing during the 3-stage breathing (cause I wanted to be sure in doing it right). As I was doing so I felt my whole body warming up, some parts of my body even sweat a little. I was quite hot, and it was not because of the weather! It was coming from within. I've experienced this before, but not so strong and it didn't last as long as it did today, it lasted the whole 3-stage breathing.

The heat also came back for some moments during the meditation. During the Ba-Ha portion I actually was a little cold and at the third round of doing the Ba-Ha I had to gradually warm my legs with my hands.

Today was also the first time (in a long time) I really enjoyed doing the Ba-Ha portion, I loved it, and even started smiling at some 'Ha' moments. I was starting to kind of shout it, just like the warrior breath (softly though).

During the meditation I just felt happy and Very relaxed. The POTS is really like music to the soul. At some point I saw, I had my eyes closed, something like a wave wanting to get out. My impression was, that something in me, my soul maybe, wanted to go out and play. That was pretty funny. In other words, I think I was just enjoying and feeling great and happy.
The only time I had little tears in my eyes was when this 'wanting to go out and play' feeling came, because it felt like it (I) hasn't (haven't) felt like that in a long time.

By the way, I almost never zone out. So today there was also no zoning out.
 
Just want to share my experience the other day when I did the full program.
During the Baha I saw this purple flickering light which I now almost always see when I do the Baha portion. However this time I saw 3 images! Lately I've noticed some images but they seem to wither right away when I "notice" them (hope I'm explaining myself well enough) or I notice them and it's like I forget them right away. Anyways, this time I did notice and was able to remember. First image was of a living room from what I'm guessing the 18th or 19th century. It was a wooden house with all the furniture in wood, very simple and plain room with a boarded floor, one dresser, a chair and a spinning wheel. Almost felt like it was in America. Then the second image was of lots of light and dark wooden planks. And finally the third image was of a hand crafted wooden chessboard that seemed to have been made from these planks because the pieces and board were in dark and light wood.
That's it. My only thought is that maybe it was a tiny glimpse into a past life?...Guess I'll just have to see what happens next! :P
 
Just did a full program and would like to share some things again.

It really feels like I'm going through the whole program pretty quickly. Usually I would think that the program takes long etc. etc. but now it really doesn't even feel like an hour. Maybe because I'm having more fun in doing it? Or because I've done it quite some times.

I've been experiencing some pain in my underbelly the whole day, but after doing the EE program the pain has reduced.

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During the 3-stage breathing there was that heat again. I also notice a pressure on the forehead, even with some normal breaths during the meditation I felt that pressure. It's not uncomfortable though.

There were also some moments of heat during the Ba-Ha portion this time and I wasn't cold.

Now, something happened during the meditation and I'm not sure if I should share it or not.. I'm going to explain it based on my thoughts, feelings and observations and as always my 3dview could be wrong and it could be totally something else. So I'm just gonna share it from my point of view (sorry if it sounds kind of love&light-ish or something like that, but this is really what I've seen and experienced, it's just that I'm not sure what it is, maybe it's just all in my head):

So I was laying down on my bed for the meditation, but somehow I wasn't laying very comfortable, because my sheets were beneath me. I stood a bit up and removed the sheets and then started laying to continue the meditation. I closed my eyes and tried to visualize the words from POTS (I'm a visual/feeling kind of person). I visualized myself walking through the woods and listened to Laura and recited them with her, I visualized myself on a swing while listening to the POTS and at some moments I wasn't visualizing anything and just tried to concentrate on Laura's voice.

At some point I started to see an image, not in my mind's eye, but when I have my eyes closed. I saw the image of something like a triangle, it looked like an image of hands connected together by having the fingers touching each other. I thought it was maybe funny to try that out, so I made my hands connect (I was laying flat). When I did that I continued meditating and I started to feel a wave of heat throughout my whole body. I also saw waves of dim light flying. At some point my eyes started to "shake" heavily. This isn't something new, I've experienced this before when I meditated on my own before the EE program was found out. As this felt uncomfortable I stopped touching my hands and had them flat on the bed again. Told myself to relax and my eyes were calm again.

Then I continued meditating and again I started to see that image again! Somehow this time, it maybe looked more clear (I'm not quite sure) and I saw that it was two hands flat on each other, you know, like a hand prayer position. So I did that and it didn't feel natural somehow, so I started to link my fingers together (folding my hands).

At that moment something really powerful became present. I started to slowly smile and I started to feel a presence or maybe I let a presence in, I don't know, but the only thing that came up to my mind immediately was God! The word "God". Then I started to cry and cry and cry...
In this few seconds, it felt like, something or someone came to me and said Hi in a sense. And it hit me so hard emotionally (in a good sense).

Maybe it was a short direct face-2-face with my higher self?

The folding hands was interesting, because in the old days, when I really concentrated on praying to God I had my hands folded.

But again, it can be just nothing and it can be wishful thinking or maybe I'm too involved with observing and should let myself be more, I don't know, I really don't.
Just thought I'd share.
 
I started reading the Wave and I came across this section, were Laura talks about being in a timeless state. Is this timeless state she is referring to in the book, similar or the same as zoning out?(just worded differently). Or is it another state, that's different from zoning out?

"Without really planning it, during this period of forced physical inactivity, I was establishing a regimen of deep and intense thinking, alternating with deep contemplation and stopping of the chatter of meaningless thought that was achieved during meditation. My meditations seemed to progress quite rapidly. I later read that achieving just a few minutes of deep contemplation was difficult and often took years of practice, but it seemed that I rapidly achieved that point, and soon was able to enter a rather "timeless" state for what proved to be somewhat extended periods of time"
From Wave book 1/ page 87

Progress: Today I did the full EE program, but at first was really lazy to do so(predator was kicking in overtime). But I pushed myself and did it. Through out the process, I felt really tired and yawned a lot! After the warriors breath, I either went to sleep or zoned out. I woke up about 45mins later and found my Ipod off. Afterwords I felt like my energy was drained or just tried, maybe it was because I was already feeling lazy earlier on the day. Question, how do you tell the difference between when one is zoning out or sleeping?
 
Oxajil said:
At some point I started to see an image, not in my mind's eye, but when I have my eyes closed. I saw the image of something like a triangle, it looked like an image of hands connected together by having the fingers touching each other. I thought it was maybe funny to try that out, so I made my hands connect (I was laying flat). When I did that I continued meditating and I started to feel a wave of heat throughout my whole body. I also saw waves of dim light flying. At some point my eyes started to "shake" heavily. This isn't something new, I've experienced this before when I meditated on my own before the EE program was found out. As this felt uncomfortable I stopped touching my hands and had them flat on the bed again. Told myself to relax and my eyes were calm again.

How interesting... I saw a very similar image while I was meditating today! Something like this maybe:

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I felt like I was zoning out and I saw something like this... or thats the best I can remember. I feel like it was more of a triangle, like the hands were holding something. Maybe I was seeing hands in a prayer position, as you said Oxajil:

it was two hands flat on each other, you know, like a hand prayer position

I wonder what that means, if anything?
 
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"At that moment something really powerful became present. I started to slowly smile and I started to feel a presence or maybe I let a presence in, I don't know, but the only thing that came up to my mind immediately was God! The word "God". Then I started to cry and cry and cry...
In this few seconds, it felt like, something or someone came to me and said Hi in a sense. And it hit me so hard emotionally (in a good sense).
Maybe it was a short direct face-2-face with my higher self?"




Sorry, that I have not posted very much here and maybe it is silly not to post at all because I can`t make a proper quote appear on this forum!

Not that I have had anything worth saying most of the time and this isn`t worth much either.

What I did want to bring up concerning the above quote though was this, I think it is possible that direct contact with 4D STS, could produce a very similar sensation and I`m not sure that we are capable of discerning the difference at this point.

Or at least that would be true for me.

And although what you described is indeed a very pleasant experience, I just don`t think it is meant to be the entire goal of the EE program. And it seems that the part about "letting a presence in" that you thought was "god" is also something to think very carefully about.
 
Meager1 said:
Quote:

"At that moment something really powerful became present. I started to slowly smile and I started to feel a presence or maybe I let a presence in, I don't know, but the only thing that came up to my mind immediately was God! The word "God". Then I started to cry and cry and cry...
In this few seconds, it felt like, something or someone came to me and said Hi in a sense. And it hit me so hard emotionally (in a good sense).
Maybe it was a short direct face-2-face with my higher self?"

Sorry, that I have not posted very much here and maybe it is silly not to post at all because I can`t make a proper quote appear on this forum!

Not that I have had anything worth saying most of the time and this isn`t worth much either.

What I did want to bring up concerning the above quote though was this, I think it is possible that direct contact with 4D STS, could produce a very similar sensation and I`m not sure that we are capable of discerning the difference at this point.

Or at least that would be true for me.

And although what you described is indeed a very pleasant experience, I just don`t think it is meant to be the entire goal of the EE program. And it seems that the part about "letting a presence in" that you thought was "god" is also something to think very carefully about.

Hi Meager1,

For help learning how to post on the forum (using quote tags, etc.) please refer to this page.

I think you make a good point about staying vigilant.

M said:
Sorry, that I have not posted very much here and maybe it is silly not to post at all because I can`t make a proper quote appear on this forum!

Not that I have had anything worth saying most of the time and this isn`t worth much either.

You do have something to say, it is worth saying, and its important that you contribute. As others have told me, we are not here to judge each other. Everyone had to learn how to wrap text in quotes and use the other functions of the forum at some point.

Have you read the big 5 psychology books?

*edited format mistakes
 
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