Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Heimdallr said:
Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?


One question comes up, do you (guys) experience any difference in sleep when you have done the full program that day?
Or maybe trying doing the 3 stage breathing before going to bed?

My two cents.



Learner said:
I had very stiffy hands after the BAHA part.

This can happen and is one result of the fast in and out breathing, at least this too can be a result of hyperventilating. Are you using the audio or are you doing it in your own timing?
 
A small update.

I do zone out a lot during the meditation part or fall asleep, this happened in the last three sessions.

Sometimes I see light flashes in the middle of the day, where I wonder: was there really something?


And today during the beatha part, I saw some pictures from my memory as a kid, one was where my parents liked to go out with friends and I should stay alone at home in the house. I only remember that I did make terror (whining), because I didn't liked it at all in the dark to be alone in our house. But I can't remember if they finally went out or not, but I guess they did. At least I felt sorry for a long time, that I have been afraid and couldn't stay alone at home.

The other memory was, as well in childhood, where my mother and me went to theater into "Little Red Riding Hood" and I was afraid as the light went out and the wolf came on stage, where I said loudly and everything was quite: "I'm so shivering ". My mother took me out and made fun of this situation for many years.

And the last memory was something similar, where my mother took me out and we drove home, because I didn't behave properly.


Eventually this could be one answer of my prayers of what I'm afraid of: to be alone and to be forgotten, it seems that this program is then pretty old and an answer of lots of internal considering and worrying.
 
EE update:

Not much as happened while doing the EE for the past months. One thing Ive noticed is at times when I am doing the meditation. A nervous, anxious, and tension feeling starts to develop inside of me. Sometimes I have to quit doing the meditation because of the intensity of it. I think it might be my predator fighting the the EE. I also find it easier to breath in/nose and out/mouth now. I guess it was only a matter of my body getting comfortable with it. Lately Ive been not zoning out.
 
Gawan said:
Heimdallr said:
Just curious, for all you who are waking in the middle of the night, when are you taking your 5-HTP?
One question comes up, do you (guys) experience any difference in sleep when you have done the full program that day?
Or maybe trying doing the 3 stage breathing before going to bed?

My two cents.

No difference that I’m aware of.

My E-E experiences of the week indicate a quite normal pattern, although no zoning out, and the aforementioned sleeping patterns. Still only doing the three stage breathing and PotS (and this has been the situation for approximately the past year).
 
Gawan said:
Learner said:
I had very stiffy hands after the BAHA part.

This can happen and is one result of the fast in and out breathing, at least this too can be a result of hyperventilating. Are you using the audio or are you doing it in your own timing?

Mostly I do use the audio, but yesterday I tried without the audio. That didn't work quite well for the BAHA part - I didn't get the counts for this right at all the three paces and I went too fast, I realized. So I probably was hyperventilating, or at least my breathing was not regular, because I relied on my own. Therefore the stiffy hands.
I learned, that I can go well for 3-stage-breathing without the audio, and also for warrior's breath and POTS, but not for the BAHA part. And I also like Laura hear saying the POTS, with the background music, because it is very soothing, I find. So I am going to use the audio for full program always.

Infiniteness said:
One thing Ive noticed is at times when I am doing the meditation. A nervous, anxious, and tension feeling starts to develop inside of me. Sometimes I have to quit doing the meditation because of the intensity of it. I think it might be my predator fighting the the EE.

The feelings of tension, anxiety and nervousness are something, I also recognized during some sessions. Because of this I also at times had to stop. It occured with me with Pipe Breathing, but also with meditation sometimes. What came into my mind, it could be some of the supressed emotions, that manifest that way. Or maybe it is the armouring of denial of things, that are buried in our subconscious - in that case it can be the Predator's mind, that tries to hinder us to see them clearly as they are in order to change our lives appropriately. And therefore it tries to distract us. Of course I can be way off here, I don't know. Correction welcome in that case. However, if these feelings come up, I continue as best as I can - I get through the 3-stage-breathing and POTS, because I think, something in myself will benefit, although the disturbing feelings are trying to keep me at bay. If I break up during mediation, I calm myself as best as I can and then start again. It often works with me. If it doesn't, I try again the next day. Then it can feel better. It is just to continue and to have patience, for me. Hope, that helps a bit. :)
 
"I" lost my mp3 player recently, making difficult to do the whole EE sequence. I have continued with POTS before sleep every night and have tried a few 3 stage breathing sessions on my own, without the audio and both have gone well, so in a way losing the mp3 player was a positive thing because it forced me to remember the process on my own. I have not been practicing Beatha and round breathing however, so I ordered a new mp3 player so that I can start those sessions again.

I think I was reciting POTS in a mechanical way recently. I read through the thread on Praying a couple of days ago and several of the posts toward the end really made me think about this. The last few nights I have been focusing on really thinking about what the words mean to me, rather than just speaking them. The night before last I took a bath before bedtime with epsom salts and I decided to try to ask for help figuring out what my purpose in life is after pipe breathing and POTS. I had a really interesting experience of two people in my head. One was "asking" in a way that sounded just like commanding, and the other kept gently stopping the first, without words saying "thats a command". This went on for a while until I fell asleep. I'm not sure if my description makes much sense, it was a confusing experience.
 
I did the Eiriu Eolas last night and my right foot began to feel numb and felt like I was getting a cramp. My left foot felt numb a little but it began to itch as well.
Then my left leg got numb a little but overall it went well and zoned out probably twice the last one I came back and the music was over. Its been a while since
I did the EE but planning to catch up and continue my daily routine of EE.
 
I've mentioned in a couple threads on the forum recently that I've felt in a slump: difficulty falling asleep, lack of energy (probably a result of not getting enough sleep!), and a general depressed state and lack of drive. I've been pushing against it by forcing myself to do certain tasks during the day (as well as EE, journaling, etc.). Well a few days ago I was getting pretty annoyed with this lethargic state, as I've usually got a lot of energy and drive. So I did three stage and the meditation in the late afternoon. I ended up falling asleep after and sleeping for a couple hours. Then that night, while praying I prayed for some energy and enthusiasm during POTS ("be my daily bread" and all that), which I'd been doing for a couple nights before as well. I ended up having a couple interesting dreams that night and the night before. One involved time travel, where I encountered a version of me from a couple years before the "dream me's" time and warned him to be ready for this moment. It involved a lot of action centering around a cathedral, the choir stall at the top, and my old music teacher (including evil drone beings that I had to run away from in order to meet Gandalf and organize 12 astrological statues in a pattern on the cathedral floor :lol:).

Anyways, I woke up feeling great: my energy levels are good, my mood is much better, and I've been getting work done. I think the combined activity of praying, getting some much-needed sleep, writing some poems, taking a different brand of 5-HTP, and starting to read some books that really engaged my curiosity all helped. I've noticed anxiety and depression creep up, so when they do I just watch them, take some GABA and/or 5-HTP and sit down to do something that needs doing.

Last night while doing the program I was dozing away during the POTS. I can't remember the thought I had, but it was during the prayer and it had something to do with seeing "two layers of meaning" in one of the phrases. But as soon as I had this thought, my head jolted backwards about a centimeter and a fuzzy orange/green circle appeared in the center of my vision (looked kind of like one of those "orbs" in photographs) for a second, jolting me back to the here and now. I tried to remember the thought I'd had, but couldn't. I would've preferred to just zone out and fall asleep! ;)
 
Gawan said:
One question comes up, do you (guys) experience any difference in sleep when you have done the full program that day?
Or maybe trying doing the 3 stage breathing before going to bed?

My two cents.

I learned quickly that if I do Warrior's Breath and BaHa Bioenergetic breathing later than 3:00PM, I have trouble sleeping that night. So I often substitute those parts for my life-long "power nap" and feel more refreshed the rest of the afternoon.
 
I have noticed that doing the POTS before sleeping, brings me into a ''deep sleep'' that night. So that when I wake up, I feel like I've slept well.

Almost like when you eat, and you feel full, and you know that you've eaten enough/the right amount.
 
I made these posts in the Health and Wellness Forum, but Ailen suggested I also post the information here as well since so many members had mentioned problems with sinus congestion.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18987.msg182094#msg182094

In searching for natural cures for toenail fungus, I read on Dr. Mercola's site that many people had success using "Vicks Vaporub" (which contains eucalyptus, menthol, and camphor). Related to that I saw another article recommending topical use of lavender oil. I've used the Vicks on my toenails and the lavender oil on my thumbnail. In just a couple of days, I've seen noticeable results.

As a result of that search, I also discovered a related article "Fungus May Be Causing Your Sinus Infections" (_http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2004/04/07/sinus-infections-part-two.aspx). This was of special interest to me because I'd seen my chronic nasal congestion dramatically subside after conquering a MRSA bacterial infection (which colonizes in the nasal passages) as a result of eliminating all wheat, and nearly all sugar and dairy (which my Chinese medicine doctor suspected was also causing allergic inflammation and mucous).

BUT this wonderful clear breathing only lasted 1-2 weeks and then the worst congestion I've ever had set in. It was also during this time that I began trying to do EE, which was greatly impeded due to the nasal congestion. It was quite frustrating to believe in this great program, but not really be able to practice it well.

Anyway, that Mercola article went on to say that antibiotics (i.e. bacteria killers) make fungus worse (due to eliminating any competition for the fungus, I assumed). Though I hadn't taken antibiotics, I had killed off the MRSA bacteria, so I theorized perhaps that would explain the return of my congestion due to the proliferation of fungus.

Further, one of his recommendations was using essential oils. So, recalling the efficacy of lavender oil in treating nail fungus, I began spraying pure organic lavender oil deeply into my nasal cavity (1 spray each side) several times a day. It burned a little for a few seconds, but mainly filled my nose with one of my favorite fragrances. Within the first hour, I noticed a relief from congestion. Withing 24 hours, I had no congestion. I've continued using the spray about once a day to be thorough, but haven't had ANY congestion or drainage since then (1 week now).

It's a wonderful discovery for me, especially because doing EE is no longer a laborious chore, but now it's something I look forward to enjoying!

Excepts from the Mercola article cited above:
...Researchers have found that most cases of chronic sinusitis are not caused by infection but are actually an immune disorder caused by fungus. In a 1999 study, the researchers discovered that fungal organisms were present in the mucus of 96 percent of patients who had surgery for chronic sinusitis, and inflammatory cells were clumped around the fungi, which meant the condition was an immune disorder caused by fungus...

Similarly, a past study found that humming...[or perhaps, EE?] which facilitates the exchange of air from sinuses into nasal passages, could lower the risk of sinus infections if done routinely.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18987.msg197676#msg197676

Here's another very effective tool I've since discovered via my Chinese massage therapist. In fact,it looks like these links are taken from the same book I saw in his waiting room:

For occasional relief or to speed up natural drainage (e.g. when you get up in the morning): _http://www.chinese-holistic-health-exercises.com/free-face-exercises.html

As good as those pressure points are, one which is most effective for me is not mentioned. It's on the side of the bridge of the nose (labeled "bitong" on this diagram, which is linked from the first link): _http://www.chinese-holistic-health-exercises.com/support-files/facial-acupressure-chart.pdf
 
JGeropoulas said:
I made these posts in the Health and Wellness Forum, but Ailen suggested I also post the information here as well since so many members had mentioned problems with sinus congestion.

Thanks for sharing that information JGeropoulas, very interesting and useful. I have from time to time used pressure points to relieve congestion with instant relief, but the use of lavender oil sounds powerful and longer lasting.
 
Hi JGeropoulas,

I saw your previous post in the Diet and Health section. I think that this is wonderful. I've always thought that my sinus problems were fungal and this pretty much ends any doubts I may have had to the contrary.

I am wondering, since it has been a while since you did this treatment, are you still using the lavender oil?
 
Hi! a lot of time without writing in this thread. I have some things to report. Well, I have had periods of time when I could do the program in the indicated way and moments when I had lots of things to do and needed to cut it a bit, doing more POTS frequently than the entire program. When I started almost one year ago I experienced a few already known events during the first month but it comes to normality with the time.

I have started to feel something in me that is different, is a subtle thing. But the most notorious is that I have been experiencing lack of sexual desire while before I lost time thinking in sexual things as one of ways of dissociation. That doesn't happens as before. I almost don't have episodes of emotional release, just some tantrums while did Ba-ha, but I had one recently: I started to do the POTS meditation two times at day for three days because I felt like to doing so. I take an afternoon nap and I had a dream which I saw fragments of another dreams that I had. In the dream I could also experience a feel of scary for the future events: famine, tumult, it really was a oppressive atmosphere. When I woke up I started to cry because I was overwhelmed. I felt that something it was releasing, fear mostly. I ask to the universe to give me strength to bear with that allegedly future events while crying and I can still feel a bit of awe. I know that dreams can bring misinformation but I felt a terrible grief as never before.

I now have a lot of external consideration than before, it's more automatic, while before I needed to try to do an mental effort. In fact when I heard people judging others and when they seems to have reason in what they said, I note immediately that they don't put in the others shoes. I can't already be able to judge harshly somebody. I take in account many possibilities than before to to evaluate the behaviour of someone.

I have realized that the meditation have a more pronounced effect in me when I do very deep breath in, as deep that I feel I overcharge of oxygen and I experiment a "narcosis". I don't remember where I read that there is a kind of therapy that takes advantage of this narcosis to cure difficult ills.
Thank you Laura and team for this program!!!!! ;D
 
Seamas said:
"I" lost my mp3 player recently, making difficult to do the whole EE sequence. I have continued with POTS before sleep every night and have tried a few 3 stage breathing sessions on my own, without the audio and both have gone well, so in a way losing the mp3 player was a positive thing because it forced me to remember the process on my own. I have not been practicing Beatha and round breathing however, so I ordered a new mp3 player so that I can start those sessions again.

I think I was reciting POTS in a mechanical way recently. I read through the thread on Praying a couple of days ago and several of the posts toward the end really made me think about this. The last few nights I have been focusing on really thinking about what the words mean to me, rather than just speaking them. The night before last I took a bath before bedtime with epsom salts and I decided to try to ask for help figuring out what my purpose in life is after pipe breathing and POTS. I had a really interesting experience of two people in my head. One was "asking" in a way that sounded just like commanding, and the other kept gently stopping the first, without words saying "thats a command". This went on for a while until I fell asleep. I'm not sure if my description makes much sense, it was a confusing experience.

Hi Seamas

This excerpt from the Wave Series may be of use...

June 9, 1996

Q: (L) Al-‘Arabi describes unified thought forms as being the “Names of God.” His explication seems to be so identical to things you tell us that I wonder…

A: We are all the names of God. Remember, this is a conduit. This means that both termination/origination points are of equal value, importance.

Q: (L) What do you mean? Does this mean that we are a part of this?

A: Yes. Don’t deify us. And, be sure all others with which you communicate understand this too!

Q: (L) What quality in us, what thing, enabled us to make contact. Because, obviously a lot of people try and get garbage.

A: You asked.

Q: (L) A lot of people ask!

A: No they don’t, they command.

Q: (L) Well, a lot of people do ask or beg or plead, but they get all discombobulated with the answers.

A: No, they command. Think about it. You did not beg or plead… that is commanding.
 
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