Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

Continuing with my reintroduction of round breathing after a long layoff, this week’s experience is as follows:

On Monday I did the BaHa breathing at speed 1 and 2 of rounds 1 and 2, and speed 1 of round 3 whilst seated. As with last week, yawning started with the three-stage breathing, and occurred in BaHa too. I experienced very wet eyes during the BaHa.

On Thursday, for BaHa, I did speeds 1 and 2 of the each of the three rounds whilst seated. The wet eyes started with the three stage breathing and continued through, especially present whilst listening to speed 3 of BaHa.

Once again, outside of the session, I experienced more dream activity (all OK), and early waking (5am) – although the latter may be due to the effects of detoxing, or diet changes causing a sluggish liver, as other symptoms indicate. Otherwise, everything was fine.
 
I too am reintroducing round breathing after a long break. I have been just reciting POTS before I go to sleep every night for a couple of months. On Monday I just did three stage breathing and warrior's breath, and last night I did the full program before I went to bed. I sat for all of three stage breathing, warriors breath and round breathing and I took a short break to do some journaling before I turned off the light and listened to POTS. I didn't zone out at any point, and I had trouble concentrating and not letting my mind wander. There was some yawning during round breathing. Three stage breathing is difficult for me because my shoulders are very stiff, so I have trouble holding my arms up for the second stage and getting my hands up behind by neck during the third stage. I've found that as my body relaxes progressively during the exercise it gets easier for me over the course of the exercise, and it gets a little easier each time I do the exercise.

After POTS I was wide awake in bed and I felt frightened. I felt like there was a presence in my room, a shadow looming over my bed. At first I started to do my usual, "buck up, there's nothing there, there's no reason to be frightened, don't be so weak". But I stopped myself, saying that "its ok to be frightened. Everyone gets frightened. We all fear what we don't understand. Won't it be interesting to see what happens. If you can shed your fear, won't it be interesting?" I quickly fell asleep after that. I remembered three different dreams when I woke up and felt rested.
 
Seamas said:
I too am reintroducing round breathing after a long break. I have been just reciting POTS before I go to sleep every night for a couple of months. On Monday I just did three stage breathing and warrior's breath, and last night I did the full program before I went to bed. I sat for all of three stage breathing, warriors breath and round breathing and I took a short break to do some journaling before I turned off the light and listened to POTS. I didn't zone out at any point, and I had trouble concentrating and not letting my mind wander. There was some yawning during round breathing. Three stage breathing is difficult for me because my shoulders are very stiff, so I have trouble holding my arms up for the second stage and getting my hands up behind by neck during the third stage. I've found that as my body relaxes progressively during the exercise it gets easier for me over the course of the exercise, and it gets a little easier each time I do the exercise.

Have you tried it yet doing the 3 stage breathing laying down? It could help you to relax more. And did you some warming up exercises beforehand, eventually there are also some more gently exercises to be found to warm up your shoulders, when the already given from the program should not be enough.
 
I've found that my whole body is generally stiff and sore and all of my muscles and joints are very tight. Most especially my back, shoulders and hips. This could be diet related, as I have mostly abandoned wheat and milk, but I haven't gone through the elimination diet, so other factors could be at play. I blame it on my living situation in my mind, but I know its really up to me to figure it out. I will be house sitting for a friend for 3 weeks in January and plan to use the time to try out the modified Ultra Simple diet, so I'll be sure to post any changes in EE here.

Legolas said:
Have you tried it yet doing the 3 stage breathing laying down? It could help you to relax more. And did you some warming up exercises beforehand, eventually there are also some more gently exercises to be found to warm up your shoulders, when the already given from the program should not be enough.

I think tried doing it laying down one time. I usually do round breathing and POTS lying down. I can't remember if it made a difference, but I'll give it another go, thanks for the tip. I always do the warmups beforehand, and I usually add a couple of yoga/stretching exercises for my back and shoulders, thats a good idea too. Do you have any that you particularly like?
 
Seamas, maybe doing some deep belly breathing before you do the stretching and the EE program would help you relax some.

I looked up on google, shoulder stretches and found several. Here is one to get you started. It gives you three shoulder stretches and along the right hand side of the page are more videos for shoulder stretches. :)
 
Really good explanation of the stretches, and Joey Atlas is pretty funny! :lol: I thought Legolas meant that there was an extended series of recommended stretches or something like that. It sounds like the stretches in the EE video are meant to be a foundation or a starting point. So I should just experiment with other stretches and find what works best for me?

I will definitely try some deep breathing before stretching next time I run through the program. The three stage breathing gets progressively easier as my body relaxes during the exercise, so why not try to get as relaxed as I can before I start? Thanks Nienna.
 
Seamas said:
Really good explanation of the stretches, and Joey Atlas is pretty funny! :lol: I thought Legolas meant that there was an extended series of recommended stretches or something like that. It sounds like the stretches in the EE video are meant to be a foundation or a starting point. So I should just experiment with other stretches and find what works best for me?

It is stated in the Instructional video that you can do any exercises that work for you in getting you relaxed and warmed up for the breathing. Since not everyone is the same, some may need different stretching exercises in various parts of their bodies to help get them warmed up. You, and many others I have seen I would like to add, have a lot of tension in their shoulders. So changing, or adding, the stretches for your particular needs is exactly what should be done. Especially since you are so tense in your shoulders. That's how I see it anyways.

Seamas said:
I will definitely try some deep breathing before stretching next time I run through the program. The three stage breathing gets progressively easier as my body relaxes during the exercise, so why not try to get as relaxed as I can before I start? Thanks Nienna.

Exactly! ;)
 
I got really far behind on this thread and caught up like 20 pages about two weeks ago. Now I see I'm still behind but only 5 pages this time. So I just want to comment on some of the discussions I missed and give an EE update.

There was some interesting discussion on prayer and I kind of took the whole thing strictly because I used to pray constantly and for trivial things.

Jerking was mentioned during the night too, which I don't currently do. But I can remember that there are times where I am on the verge of sleeping and having hypnogogic semi-dreams. And something will happen to me, like someone will punch me or I'll get some kind of physical shock in the dream, and I'll flinch or jerk in real life. So I'll awake myself with this flinching and snap out of the dream state. Kind of weird, like snoring yourself awake, which I don't think I've experienced.

I've also noticed that I don't wake up to go to the bathroom much anymore. I always had to in the middle of the night, I assume from taking my bedtime supplements.

I still get tears sometimes when I do the pipe breathing before sleeping. But it only happens when I'm lying down and not when I'm sitting.

One day while doing EE or just plain pipe breathing, I can't remember which, I had a really sharp feeling like a needle on the back of my neck. It lasted so long that I had to pause for a second and touch it. Also at work while I was reading some of the forum I had a tingling sensation all over the left side of my head. It was like the left hemisphere of my brain was tingling.

As for my EE experiences, they have been pretty much the same. Gentle and relaxing, with nothing really big or esoteric. I still get occasional phosphenes that fly around during the day though. A few weeks ago I tried doing the program without the audio for the first time. I thought I would be more focused, but during the beatha I actually kept dozing off a lot. Maybe I was just tired, but it kept happening every few breaths.

I think I tried doing the Warrior's Breath really fast and harder that time I did EE with no audio. I liked the faster pace. I felt like I could get off more steam that way. But I think I might have overdid it because my lungs were sore afterward. It kind of reminded me of martial arts, doing it that way. I haven't exercised in a while so maybe it's just the release achieved with rigorous physical activity I was looking for.

So, that's it for me regarding what I missed and my current status.
 
3D Student said:
As for my EE experiences, they have been pretty much the same. Gentle and relaxing, with nothing really big or esoteric. I still get occasional phosphenes that fly around during the day though. A few weeks ago I tried doing the program without the audio for the first time. I thought I would be more focused, but during the beatha I actually kept dozing off a lot. Maybe I was just tired, but it kept happening every few breaths.

I think I tried doing the Warrior's Breath really fast and harder that time I did EE with no audio. I liked the faster pace. I felt like I could get off more steam that way. But I think I might have overdid it because my lungs were sore afterward. It kind of reminded me of martial arts, doing it that way. I haven't exercised in a while so maybe it's just the release achieved with rigorous physical activity I was looking for.

So, that's it for me regarding what I missed and my current status.
some times I find POTS little faster ,I find my self skipping the words, so I find it easier to do without audio. The only problem is I lose track of it and mind wanders after 3 or 4 times.
 
Thanks to Legolas and Nienna :)

The last few days I did some deep belly breathing before my morning stretching (I have to be careful not to fall back to sleep), and I added some shoulder stretches to help with all of the tension I have in my shoulders, neck, chest and upper back. I also practiced three stage breathing lying down this morning. I have to say that these things seem to be helpful. Practicing 3 stage breathing lying down helped me to relax because I wasn't focused on trying to maintain good posture (trying to do it the "right way"), which usually counteracts the relaxing effect of the pipe breathing to some extent. It seemed easier for me to focus on muscle sensations associated with deep breathing. I also feel like I have a little bit more mobility in my shoulders after the 2 days of extra stretching, so that probably helped things to open up even a little bit more. I will keep you posted on further progress and questions.
 
Seamas said:
Thanks to Legolas and Nienna :)

The last few days I did some deep belly breathing before my morning stretching (I have to be careful not to fall back to sleep), and I added some shoulder stretches to help with all of the tension I have in my shoulders, neck, chest and upper back. I also practiced three stage breathing lying down this morning. I have to say that these things seem to be helpful. Practicing 3 stage breathing lying down helped me to relax because I wasn't focused on trying to maintain good posture (trying to do it the "right way"), which usually counteracts the relaxing effect of the pipe breathing to some extent. It seemed easier for me to focus on muscle sensations associated with deep breathing. I also feel like I have a little bit more mobility in my shoulders after the 2 days of extra stretching, so that probably helped things to open up even a little bit more. I will keep you posted on further progress and questions.

This is terrific, Seamas. :thup: Thanks for the update. :)
 
Nienna Eluch said:
Seamas said:
Thanks to Legolas and Nienna :)

The last few days I did some deep belly breathing before my morning stretching (I have to be careful not to fall back to sleep), and I added some shoulder stretches to help with all of the tension I have in my shoulders, neck, chest and upper back. I also practiced three stage breathing lying down this morning. I have to say that these things seem to be helpful. Practicing 3 stage breathing lying down helped me to relax because I wasn't focused on trying to maintain good posture (trying to do it the "right way"), which usually counteracts the relaxing effect of the pipe breathing to some extent. It seemed easier for me to focus on muscle sensations associated with deep breathing. I also feel like I have a little bit more mobility in my shoulders after the 2 days of extra stretching, so that probably helped things to open up even a little bit more. I will keep you posted on further progress and questions.

This is terrific, Seamas. :thup: Thanks for the update. :)

I agree, that's fabulous! :rockon:

What I experienced in the last week, when I'm emotionally under pressure, or have to do things up on time my throat gets stiff too and also my neck-muscles.
 
3D Student said:
I got really far behind on this thread and caught up like 20 pages about two weeks ago. Now I see I'm still behind but only 5 pages this time. So I just want to comment on some of the discussions I missed and give an EE update.

Don't put yourself under pressure 3D, if you can't read all the ÉE topic pages!

Cause you mentioned the prayer, there is a separate topic about it, which followed then the discussion in this topic:

praying
 
Week 4 of my reintroduction of BaHa breathing after a long layoff, this week I did BaHa breathing on Monday at speeds 1, 2 and 3 for rounds 1 and 2, speeds 1 and 2 for round 3, and breathing normally – with full volition. I experienced wet eyes during BaHa only. Outside of the session I experienced a stressful Wednesday and in the middle of the night I had an attack of claustrophobia (panic attack?), of being constrained with a heavy load on top of me (combined winter and summer duvet plus a heavy sleeping bag), and a sense of my face being covered and unable to breathe. This may have been induced by a lack of magnesium during the day, or most probably GABA.

On Thursday, I did all three speeds for all three rounds – back to normal. I was yawning and had wet eyes during the three-stage breathing, and for speeds 3 of BaHa. I became aware that I was shutting down my breathing (unconsciously as suggested on the E-E Forum – of taking shallower breaths) in parts of round 2 at speeds 1 and 2, and in round 3 at speeds 1 and 2 as well, also, experiencing a warm feeling in my throat during speed 2. I slept well last night too.


Edit: added GABA
 
Short update: the tight area in my left rib cage area is still present, no changes.

Recently, during the POTS, I felt an inflow of energy into my right hemisphere. Maybe the work of uniting both hemispheres has actually started?

Apart from that, I can pretty much keep up the feeling of closeness to DCM when doing the POTS, which every time feels like a healing balm.
 
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