Éiriú-Eolas - Breathing Program

I think that maybe doves represent things that you hold dearly inside you, maybe illusions, maybe not, without being vigilant of predation and dangers, both from 'earthly' sources as well as hyperdimensional predators. But it is just a thought, it might be something else too.


A totally unbelievable development!

This afternoon my son went out to add water to the dishes for the ducks because it`s been so cold the water containers freeze and we have to continually add more water for them.

When he opened the pen door a dove flew in behind him!

It was the dove that had been carried off by the hawk and we all thought for sure was dead!

I don`t know how it got away, or how it survived out there all alone these past few days, but it did.

He has a short gash across the breast and another on one wing, but he is definitely alive and well!

I brought him inside the house and have him in a cage in the living room where he will stay for the winter along side a crippled duck in a box, that I also have to keep in the house.

I`m not sure what to make of this, or whats behind the whole thing, though I am very happy to see him again!
 
Meager1 said:
A totally unbelievable development!

This afternoon my son went out to add water to the dishes for the ducks because it`s been so cold the water containers freeze and we have to continually add more water for them.

When he opened the pen door a dove flew in behind him!

It was the dove that had been carried off by the hawk and we all thought for sure was dead!

I don`t know how it got away, or how it survived out there all alone these past few days, but it did.

He has a short gash across the breast and another on one wing, but he is definitely alive and well!

I brought him inside the house and have him in a cage in the living room where he will stay for the winter along side a crippled duck in a box, that I also have to keep in the house.

I`m not sure what to make of this, or whats behind the whole thing, though I am very happy to see him again!

Great happening amazing news Meager1!
 
Puzzle said:
Another thing since starting to "allow DCM to help me" was suddenly seeing lights. Never seen lights before! Although, really, it's nothing of the magnitude others have described here. The first time I saw lights (during Pipe Breathing) a program popped up of expectation: "Whoo, now something real big is going to happen!". You wouldn't guess -- lol -- the moment the program was stronger than me, the lights vanished again.

This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.
 
herondancer said:
Hi Graalsword,

Wikipedia has this to say about Kaluza Klein

In physics, Kaluza–Klein theory (KK theory) is a model that seeks to unify the two fundamental forces of gravitation and electromagnetism. The theory was first published in 1921. It was proposed by the mathematician Theodor Kaluza who extended general relativity to a five-dimensional spacetime. The resulting equations can be separated into further sets of equations, one of which is equivalent to Einstein field equations, another set equivalent to Maxwell's equations for the electromagnetic field and the final part an extra scalar field now termed the "radion".

After that, get your physics on because it's charts and equations! Is it a field you are interested in?

Not more than other knowledge in general, I mean, only interested within the context of cassiopaean experiment, and same as knowledge in general, but not especially interested. I always tended more towards humanities such as history, or arts, etc. rather than mathematical related sciences.

Shijing said:
Puzzle said:
Another thing since starting to "allow DCM to help me" was suddenly seeing lights. Never seen lights before! Although, really, it's nothing of the magnitude others have described here. The first time I saw lights (during Pipe Breathing) a program popped up of expectation: "Whoo, now something real big is going to happen!". You wouldn't guess -- lol -- the moment the program was stronger than me, the lights vanished again.

This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.

I had that too, many times. The lights are of diferent colours. Mostly white, violet and blue, sometimes also orange and green. I also had flashing vision of normal daily scenes of unknown places and unknown people. (maybe some kind of unvoluntary remote viewing?:huh:) Yesterday I had the sudden vision of a little bird walking near the entrance of a building. Just lasted a few seconds. Although I had already these things since several years ago, very few times. One day while falling sleep (just before getting asleep) I had the vision of an old woman and a young one talking in a kitchen and having coffee. Weird...
 
Shijing said:
This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.

Speaking of lights, a couple of weeks ago, I was asleep and was awoken by a light. There was no light on in the room when I opened my eyes. My perception of it was a faint small glow in front of my eyes and a little above me that grew slowly into a really bright glow that woke me up due to its over powering brightness - wide awake. I was going through a bit of a difficult time emotionally during the preceding days, so I'm not sure if that was related. It was interesting, though, on the 'light topic'. During POTS, I will occasionally see lights, faces, scenes and, rarely, just zone out with no memory, though that's not happened for a while.
 
Anart said:
During POTS, I will occasionally see lights, faces, scenes and, rarely, just zone out with no memory, though that's not happened for a while.

Same here. I used to see faces and scenes in a very detailed manner at the beginning but it hasn't happened in months. Nowadays, my sessions have nothing in particular and that's why I haven't shared a lot about them recently.

I must say, though, that today while doing the full session (I do it in the afternoon now, as at night I'm normally too energized by it), for once I decided to do it sitting instead of lying down (as I usually do), mainly because since I'm sick and I have trouble breathing when lying down. As a result, the session was really calm and relaxing for me, I was really 'in it' (the last few times, I was always distracted by my thoughts). I zoned out (had not happened in a while) and then I just slept for half an hour. That was really needed and it really felt good. I'll report on that asap on the EE website.
 
Mrs.Tigersoap said:
Anart said:
During POTS, I will occasionally see lights, faces, scenes and, rarely, just zone out with no memory, though that's not happened for a while.

Same here. I used to see faces and scenes in a very detailed manner at the beginning but it hasn't happened in months. Nowadays, my sessions have nothing in particular and that's why I haven't shared a lot about them recently.

Exactly the same for me - I haven't seen anything for ages, although I still do zone out occasionally.

One thought that keeps occurring to me lately though, is how totally natural and effortless it now is to do the program, I can hardly believe that there was a time that it wasn't an essential part of my life.
 
anart said:
Speaking of lights, a couple of weeks ago, I was asleep and was awoken by a light. There was no light on in the room when I opened my eyes. My perception of it was a faint small glow in front of my eyes and a little above me that grew slowly into a really bright glow that woke me up due to its over powering brightness - wide awake. I was going through a bit of a difficult time emotionally during the preceding days, so I'm not sure if that was related. It was interesting, though, on the 'light topic'. During POTS, I will occasionally see lights, faces, scenes and, rarely, just zone out with no memory, though that's not happened for a while.

Ditto on those last parts. Lights, faces, scenes have still been occurring occasionally, but zoning is rare at the moment. Lately I've been having trouble sleeping, which isn't normal for me. Night before last I woke up at 4 a.m. in one of those half-sleep states where the mind is feverishly occupied with what seems like impossible math equations. Couldn't fall back asleep after that. Then, last night I slept a glorious 12 hours (!). I had a "traveling" dream, which I don't have very often. Hoping I can reset my clock and get some regular sleep from here on out!
 
Shijing said:
Puzzle said:
Another thing since starting to "allow DCM to help me" was suddenly seeing lights. Never seen lights before! Although, really, it's nothing of the magnitude others have described here. The first time I saw lights (during Pipe Breathing) a program popped up of expectation: "Whoo, now something real big is going to happen!". You wouldn't guess -- lol -- the moment the program was stronger than me, the lights vanished again.

This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.

Now that you mention it, I have seen flashes too in various occasions, mostly during Beatha. They are dim, and only occur with eyes closed. If I open my eyes, I see nothing, which leads me to think that it's behind my eyes. At the moment I've thought that perhaps something from my own body (like blood vessels in my eyelids) gets reinterpreted by my mind as light flashes... not that this rationalization makes much sense.

Once, last year, in one of the very few visions I've had while fully awake and aware during EE, I clearly saw a door opening and light coming into a room containing some very detailed items, like crystal vases on a table.
 
anart said:
Shijing said:
This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.

Speaking of lights, a couple of weeks ago, I was asleep and was awoken by a light. There was no light on in the room when I opened my eyes. My perception of it was a faint small glow in front of my eyes and a little above me that grew slowly into a really bright glow that woke me up due to its over powering brightness - wide awake. I was going through a bit of a difficult time emotionally during the preceding days, so I'm not sure if that was related. It was interesting, though, on the 'light topic'. During POTS, I will occasionally see lights, faces, scenes and, rarely, just zone out with no memory, though that's not happened for a while.

This is pretty close to an experience I had a few months back. I had fallen asleep to POTS but the ear buds were still in my ears (this is unusual - I usually wake up when the audio ends and take off my headphones). I woke up with a start and propped myself up on one elbow and I was staring right into this glow hovering above me in bed. It was round, about the size of a face, about two feet away from me. No real detail to speak of. Although it was a glow, it didn't really seem to cast light - the room didn't seem any brighter, but it was a glow none the less. I was absolutely stunned and just lay there, frozen. I think my jaw may have literally been open in shock.

Then the weirdest part, as if it wasn't already weird enough - it said "Hi there." At least I think it did. It may have just been "Hello," I can't remember which. But it was definitely a greeting. I was so stunned, though, I didn't respond. The the glow started to fade and I managed to choke out a "hello?" but it just disappeared. The whole incident was only about 30 seconds long.

I was never able to figure out if this was just residual dreaming or actually some sort of high strangeness (that would be a first for me). I had sort of set it aside as probably just the result of a half-asleep hallucination, but with anart's similar experience, I'm not so sure.

Also, I often experience flashes behind closed eyes during EE or just POTS. Like Shijing mentioned, like a camera flash. Or sometimes they go across my field of vision, or at least there's an impression of movement. It's always white, never colours. I'd always thought it was quite curious but never remembered to mention it here.
 
dugdeep said:
Also, I often experience flashes behind closed eyes during EE or just POTS. Like Shijing mentioned, like a camera flash. Or sometimes they go across my field of vision, or at least there's an impression of movement. It's always white, never colours. I'd always thought it was quite curious but never remembered to mention it here.

That's the same for me -- they are sometimes stationary, but sometimes move across my field of vision, and always white for me as well.

Very strange about your visitor -- I hope it was nice :shock: Next time see if you can get a name ;)
 
anart said:
Shijing said:
This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.

Speaking of lights, a couple of weeks ago, I was asleep and was awoken by a light. There was no light on in the room when I opened my eyes. My perception of it was a faint small glow in front of my eyes and a little above me that grew slowly into a really bright glow that woke me up due to its over powering brightness - wide awake. I was going through a bit of a difficult time emotionally during the preceding days, so I'm not sure if that was related. It was interesting, though, on the 'light topic'. During POTS, I will occasionally see lights, faces, scenes and, rarely, just zone out with no memory, though that's not happened for a while.

I had an experience quite similar to that once while I was meditating, although it was probably 4 or so years ago before EE and POTS. I used to do relaxation exercises and meditate in bed before I fell asleep, sort of like what we do with POTS now, but then I focused on awareness of my body, progressively relaxing muscle groups, sometimes simple counting. I can remember a quite similar experience with a bright light that quickly grew and seemed so bright that it was like a weight or pressure above my head, and then quickly faded away. At the time I didn't have anyone to share with, so I just chalked it up as an "interesting experience".

During EE I often experience momentary visions of faces, scenes with people, of nature, houses, animals, as others have reported.

Lately I have had a much easier time relaxing and breathing deeply, in part because I added some extra shoulder stretches (thanks Legolas and Nienna), and in part because I have been seeing a chiropractor regularly. I have noticed a big difference in my posture; I am standing and sitting with a straighter back, I can sit for longer periods of time without back pain or hunching forward, I have better circulation in my hands and feet (they used to be frozen all of the time). I feel much more aware of my body in the way of subtle sensations, patterns of movements, and tension and imbalances. I have been practicing a form of seated mediation that emphasizes awareness of bodily sensations through mental sweeps, attention to breath and "inhabiting" your body, so I think that may be playing a role as well.
 
dugdeep said:
I was never able to figure out if this was just residual dreaming or actually some sort of high strangeness (that would be a first for me). I had sort of set it aside as probably just the result of a half-asleep hallucination, but with anart's similar experience, I'm not so sure.

Hmmm, I don't know if mine was similar, but it's possible. When I awoke and opened my eyes, nothing was there - I was just woken up because this light 'behind my eyelids' when I was sleeping grew so bright I couldn't stay asleep. I think if I actually saw a glowing ball that said hello, I'd be more than just very awake, very fast! (as in running out of my front door!) :lol:

Definitely sounds like an an interesting experience, dugdeep! :ninja:
 
I've been seeing faces, bodies, people running around, people at picnics, etc., and monsters, creatures, lights since about 2001 at a time when I was very exhausted and not feeling well. It used to be whenever I closed my eyes. Now, thank DCM, it only happens while doing the POTS or, again, when I'm very tired and close my eyes. It gets really annoying. Especially when I'm trying to clear my mind and concentrate on Laura's voice. I move my eyes to either side and the people/creatures just follow along. :mad: The lights haven't been so much lately. However, I do have a strobe light that goes off in my right eye that I can see whether my eye is closed or not. :/ My eye doctors are not concerned at all about it, though. So I just try to ignore it and it eventually goes away.
 
Windmill knight said:
Shijing said:
Puzzle said:
Another thing since starting to "allow DCM to help me" was suddenly seeing lights. Never seen lights before! Although, really, it's nothing of the magnitude others have described here. The first time I saw lights (during Pipe Breathing) a program popped up of expectation: "Whoo, now something real big is going to happen!". You wouldn't guess -- lol -- the moment the program was stronger than me, the lights vanished again.

This is something that I notice sometimes -- although never when I do the full program in the evening, only when I recite the POTS in my mind as I go to sleep at night. It happens when my eyes are closed, and during and after the POTS, I'll see flashes -- sometimes dim, other times brighter, like a camera flash going off. I don't know for sure if it is connected, but it's something that I'd never noticed until this year, when I had already been doing the POTS at night for awhile.

Now that you mention it, I have seen flashes too in various occasions, mostly during Beatha. They are dim, and only occur with eyes closed. If I open my eyes, I see nothing, which leads me to think that it's behind my eyes. At the moment I've thought that perhaps something from my own body (like blood vessels in my eyelids) gets reinterpreted by my mind as light flashes... not that this rationalization makes much sense.

Thanks for mentioning that -- because the lights I saw were like you two and a few others have described: white light flashes, either with closed eyes, or with open eyes, so that I'd think somebody was taking a picture with a camera.


Puzzle said:
It's true: when looking closer I can see that it was simply the sneaking-in of that part that's out for gain, experience-seeking, faster results - this thing is pretty tricky.

I've thought about this. I think that my intention of giving DCM permission to help me in my healing and growing weren't completely because of wanting to have faster results. There was something really pure in it, as in giving myself completely to DCM. As in trusting Her, and letting Her know that I (= my personality) is giving permission, too. That corrupting element of wanting to have faster results only came up (noticeably to me at least) when I was seeing a change in my experience during EE.

So my point is, I did say these words to DCM and there were different results - things I haven't experienced before (the twitches and the lights). So maybe it wasn't such a bad idea to be saying this to DCM, and all I need(ed) to do is (was) watch out for that corrupting element and hold it at bay, so to speak? I'd be glad for feedback.
 

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