Elon Musk: Tech Genius! Green Warrior! Biz King! Good Oligarch?
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It is impressive especially from an engineering point of view! No doubt about that.
When I saw the new vehicle, the first thing that came to my mind was: They took a toaster with artdeco aesthetics and put wheels on it.
And then the rocket and the claws... what can I comment? All that engineering effort is not going to get you to Mars. There are people in the world who have the secret of antigravity and UFT under seven keys, and we are amazed by this?
And then the rocket and the claws... what can I comment? All that engineering effort is not going to get you to Mars. There are people in the world who have the secret of antigravity and UFT under seven keys, and we are amazed by this?
I share the sentiment. Looks cool—comparatively cool as a swarm of Chinese drones from Shenzen. Even if Musk believes that UAPs are highly classified weapon programs (perhaps with some next-generation propulsion systems), he still wants to take humans on Mars using big-ass fallic toasters filled with liquid propellant. And if we take into account what Jack Kruse says, all that effort for establishing a dying colony since the human body is completely not adapted to the Martian environment and will never be.
I like Robert Bigelow's approach to confronting the ineventible catastrophe by putting his fortune into researching the afterlife. More humble, although he doesn't share much, because nobody will believe him anyways.
I like Robert Bigelow's approach to confronting the ineventible catastrophe by putting his fortune into researching the afterlife. More humble, although he doesn't share much, because nobody will believe him anyways.
Wandering Star
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At first I thought it was a computer-edited video, as the rocket was descending and the flares looked consistent with an ascent, but in the final phase the rocket's fire rose up the fuselage.
Although I still don't quite believe it, it is certainly something very incredible what they have achieved.
No doubt 'breakaway civilization' types and militaries have better tech, but they're not exactly showing it off publicly and thus inspiring people to 'think bigger/upwards'.
I suppose whether you think this feat/stunt makes Musk a gullible fool or an 'inspiration' depends on your perspective.
So is Musk, as a civilian, doing this:
a.) because he's the only one capable
or
b.) because he's 'favored' by the higher-ups
?
If the latter, do they secretly also want him to aid free speech, in contravention with pretty much all other global trends towards censorship?
I suppose whether you think this feat/stunt makes Musk a gullible fool or an 'inspiration' depends on your perspective.
So is Musk, as a civilian, doing this:
a.) because he's the only one capable
or
b.) because he's 'favored' by the higher-ups
?
If the latter, do they secretly also want him to aid free speech, in contravention with pretty much all other global trends towards censorship?
You know it's a figure of speech. It's something that's not going to be easily revealed or shared. We can only wait... or work on it on our own.
Saw a whole bunch of videos of catching the booster, and as a piece of engineering and co-ordination between different systems its spectacular.
Catching it is a great idea - stops it falling over (see the first video below, with several landing legs collapsing). And using the grid fins as a stop makes perfect sense.
Just reaching the point where the booster could land on target, and then land standing up (not flipping over) are still marvels of engineering.
Catching it is a great idea - stops it falling over (see the first video below, with several landing legs collapsing). And using the grid fins as a stop makes perfect sense.
Just reaching the point where the booster could land on target, and then land standing up (not flipping over) are still marvels of engineering.
Agree, I can't help but celebrate this. It's remarkable, beautiful even - the aesthetics of it! I mean, here's a group of people who shared a vision, a dream, a goal, something everybody said was impossible or too difficult or not worth it, and they made it happen. Maybe the ultimate goal of going to Mars is misguided, and who knows what the black-op guys have, but on a very straight-forward level, such an achievement should be celebrated and praised, especially in a world that is so dysfunctional, so anti-achievement, anti-vision, anti-dreaming. We can still have awareness of the bigger picture, various caveats etc. of course, but no need to be cynical about truly impressive achievement, IMO.
I thought this video was cool, juxtaposing the establishment-managerial type with the one dreaming big:
If nothing else, I find it interesting symbolically that this happened right before the elections, with Musk being a MAGA front man now. It's a powerful statement about the difference between the useless parasitic and insane clique in power and the "world of normal people" who actually achieve something.
Indeed! And let's not forget on what a humungous scale this whole SpaceX thing is actually operating and how quickly they were able to create something very impressive and actually usable (in this day and age in America!). And we shouldn't forget either that what "Musk" has created via Tesla and other avenues is no less impressive, even if some of the ideas and assumptions behind it might not be so great: 1: Creating a whole host of Tesla electric cars, bringing them to the market globally in a matter of a few years,, revolutionizing electric driving. 2: Creating "astonishing" "human like" robots. 3: Implanting chips into brains of humans with severe disabilities, enabling them to live more normal lives again. 4: Taking over Twitter/X and at least trying to have one last big social media outlet "without censorship" in the west.
Sure, some or even a lot of it might be based on false premises (and probably goes into the wrong direction as well) but you just have to acknowledge the sheer determination, will and ability to create stuff like this so fast in this day and age in the west.
