Enforcement of VAX escalating

[Joe]

A friend on FB posted this as a comment on a post I made. It speaks to one of the questions in this thread (how much to resist). We can also try to estimate how many people out there are in a similar position (other than those who have spoken up on this thread).

It could be said that people like this, who go ahead and get the vax for reasons relating to fulfilling their duties to famiy, despite knowing the dangers and evil that underlie it, are rather brave people.

I had my 2nd clot shot today for 2 reasons, both involving coercion. I have been very skeptical about the global/local Covid response generally, as you can see from my Timeline. However, my hysterical wife threatened me with divorce multiple times if I didn't get jabbed.

You could ask why didn't I just leave? That would be the 2nd reason, being that almost all of my kids friends parents told me that my kids could no longer play/associate indoors (& some even outdoors) with their kids unless all the adults in our household were double vaxxed. This included their best friends for both of them. My son is 16 & his best friend since he was 2 years old hasn't been to our house for 3+ months now. He almost begged me to get the shot so he could hang out with his mates again.

Thus in order to avoid the continued *damaging* social isolation of my kids, I submitted to the herd's hysterical paranoid fear. I think you will find versions of this story very common. Personally I am feeling extremely internally conflicted about the whole thing. Historically I barely ever get sick, and almost never get colds/flu, so was personally unconcerned about contracting Covid, and, whats more, in NZ we have a 99.9965% recovery rate, so it's a complete boondoggle why people are so terrified. Blame the MSM/govt/big pharma.

 

[bjorb]

A friend on FB posted this as a comment on a post I made. It speaks to one of the questions in this thread (how much to resist). We can also try to estimate how many people out there are in a similar position (other than those who have spoken up on this thread).

It could be said that people like this, who go ahead and get the vax for reasons relating to fulfilling their duties to famiy, despite knowing the dangers and evil that underlie it, are rather brave people.

The pressure exerted by family members could be the biggest factor in why people get vaccinated. Sad.

Be careful who you marry.

 

[Hi_Henry]

Since we are sharing a bit about how we are health wise ,here goes about my general health condition since start of 2020.

I frequent open spaces with lots of people where I'm without a mask and there is plenty of people conversing. I frequent small stores with minimal ventilation besides the opening and closing of door. I do not wear the mask unless entry requires it. I go to offices where mask is required but if one looks around one would see that it is all just a put on. Mine is on but the nose has unobstructed contact with fresh air. I interact with the environment and its conditions to the max. I don't avoid it.

Since 2020 I haven't had even a cold or flu like symptom. Nothing. Prior to 2020 I have been around people who ,obvious to me, had gotten the flu but I would just feel a bit weaker later without actually getting it. I recall in 2018/19 there must have been something a bit stronger in the air but again, I just slept it off and allowed my body to deal with whatever it was. I don't take any medication. Even if I have a bad headache I just go lie down without reaching for the pills. Coca-Cola and such thing have been off my menu since university days. I try to stick to fundamentals as much as possible when it comes to things I take in. So McDonald's and Coca-Cola like companies do not make money on me. Big Pharma so far is making ZERO on me. I mean to keep it that way.

Thus being forced to take things such as this,

Although, the modern viral vectors that are used in CoViD vaccines are silenced (replication-deficient), each dose of the vaccine contains a very high viral load (e.g., 50 billion viral particles per dose in Ox/AZ or J&J/Janssen CoViD-19 vaccines whereas 100 billion viral particles per dose in the Sputnik-V). The viral particles are unlikely to be confined to the muscles at the injection site; they are free to distribute across the body and drain through the lymphatic system; their apparent volume of distribution is likely to be very high.

For COVID-19 mRNA Vaccine (Pfizer or Moderna), the biodistribution studies in animals were not conducted.

Might post-injection distribution of CoViD vaccines to the brain explain the rare fatal events of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis (CVST)?

www.bmj.com

with Quality Control (QA) on this level,

One issue I would like to discuss are the deficiencies relating to the active substance: by that, I mean the modified RNA that they are synthesising. As a second issue there are deficiencies in the consistency of the various production batches: they need to always be consistent so that one always obtains the same vaccine volume and quality.

The problem that BioNTech had is that in the clinical phase the product, i.e. the RNA, was produced with completely different techniques to how it is being produced now. During the clinical phase they only needed small volumes of vaccine, they were able to use very expensive techniques that delivered highly purified end products. Now that they have entered mass production, that is no longer possible, they have had to switch to lower-cost processes, e.g. using huge quantities of DNA that functions as the substrate to be able to produce the RNA in an in-vitro transcription reaction. This is done via bacteria, via the fermentation of transformed bacteria that contain this DNA. The bacteria multiply the DNA in huge amounts, and this leads to new dangers or risks, particularly contamination. At the moment for instance the situation is that the DNA is transformed in the bacteria, it is multiplied, next the bacteria are opened and the DNA is extracted, then it is linearised via enzymes, and after that the linearised DNA undergoes in-vitro transcription to produce the RNA using various procedures. The EMA Committee made various requirements of the vaccine manufacturer, i.e. BioNTech. The applicant needs to now develop and introduce various analysis processes to ensure that the substrate is free of microbiological contaminants – they probably mean E Coli bacteria for example. There don’t seem to be any processes to ensure or monitor for that. They also need to ensure that all the buffers – those are the solvents that are used – are free of RNAses. RNAses are enzymes that degrade RNA. If there are any contaminants of these RNAse solvents, then RNA in the vaccine will be degraded and the vaccine won’t have any effect anymore. They also have to analyse how strong the activity of the enzymes is; that is very important because I explained that after that the RNA is transcribed from the DNA and then the DNA has to be eliminated, it is digested by enzymes: by DNAses. And if this DNA is not digested well enough, if residues are left, this harbours risks – I’ll come back to the risks from DNA residues, but the activity of the enzymes has to be monitored well and at the end you need to have a pure RNA without any more DNA. And that is not the case. BioNTech has admitted that there are DNA contaminants.

Interview with Dr. Vanessa Schmidt-Kruger

enformtk.u-aizu.ac.jp

assures me that this stuff is off the table unless a gun is put to my head.

That last quoted segment basicly gives us some grounds to believe that the suspicion that the batches are not the same is most likely real. Not only is there no guarantee of uniformity as to how a given body reacts to these products but there is also no guarantee that all are getting the same thing coming out of the syringe. This situation is worst than a casino. At least there they "fix" the machines such that they behave the same way all the time. Hellish situation.

 

[psychegram]

In retrospect, it wasn't helpful that e.g. Mike Yeadon was talking about how "the only conclusion he can make is that there's a genocidal agenda with the vaccines" and Mikovits was saying that "millions will die because of the vaccines". Some constantly talk about 'death jabs' etc.

I think this might simply be a failure of imagination on the part of many people. What's the most evil thing most people can imagine? Industrial scale murder. Since there's clearly something off about the vaxx push, people conclude that they're intended for depopulation.

However, the balance of evidence suggests that this is not the goal - if it is, the vaxx is a poor weapon (as is COVID-19, for which similar bioweapon theories proliferated). There's no question that the vaxx has a lousy safety profile in comparison to other vaccines, and that the media does everything it can to confuse this issue. But all that shows is that TPTB don't care if people are hurt by it; it doesn't demonstrate that death is the actual goal. In other words, they're making an omelette and quite willing to break some eggs.

Now if, instead, the vaxx - as the original lab-escaped COVID strain - are intended as a psychospiritual control mechanism, well, that's far more dangerous and insidious in my opinion. It's also something that normies would have a hard time wrapping their heads around. Further, the C's have indicated that one can effectively nullify this by raw spiritual force. However, it seems to me that if one is not aware of the nature of the threat, one will have a more difficult time protecting against it. Thus, seeding a narrative that the vaxx is a kill shot serves two goals: make those repeating it look silly when most people are basically fine, while serving as an additional layer of disinformational shielding protecting the actual attack from the one defense that can actually interfere with the mechanism of action.

It's the old cointelpro playbook. There's the surface narrative intended for mass consumption by the 'sleeping' (in this case, 'a safe and effective vaccine to protect against COVID-19'), and a secondary narrative intended to mislead the 'awake' (in this case 'a kill shot intended to depopulate the world in accordance with the Georgia Guidestones'). And how many times have we seen this before? eg 'HAARP is basically just a weather station'/'HAARP is for weather control', both hiding the more accurate 'HAARP is for emotional control'.

 

[Lilou]

A man I work with was under similar coercion by his family. 50 y/o with 2 kids in college. His wife had J & J and his kids were most likely required to have the jab to stay in college.

He came to me, highly frustrated and I advised him on covid protocols and got Ivermectin for him when I placed my order from India.

His daughter in college refused to return home until he was jabbed! He went so far as to make a fake vaccine card and sent it as a group text to his family, "I got my shot today!" He also stuck himself in the arm with a needle and put a bandaid on.

Some months later, he did get covid, was sick for a week, but recovered without issues and now has natural immunity.

I thank god everyday that my immediate family is all on the same page regarding the vaccines. I can't imagine the stress some people are under. The propaganda is relentless.

 

[Laurs]

It could be said that people like this, who go ahead and get the vax for reasons relating to fulfilling their duties to famiy, despite knowing the dangers and evil that underlie it, are rather brave people.

I agree. I can only imagine the enormous amount of stress he experiences and i hope he continues to be healthy. Conscious suffering comes to mind here. My loved ones so far have not been injected but my husband is still of the opinion that the government and doctors, scientists etc in MSM are having the people's best interests at heart and he will get them as soon as he will not be able to travel and do fun stuff because of his unvaxxed status.

This thread (and the wisdom of the Stoics and indeed Frankl's quotes) helped me to examine the question of how far i would go to resist getting the shots from a more objective perspective. With all the fear thrown about from every direction it was good to get to the bottom of that emotion, to use it to decide for myself what matters most, what are my priorities. Also, the cold hard realization that we might just not be able to escape the injections at some point kind of took the sting out. For me, at this point, i would take them if that would enable me to be close to and help my mother, daughters (who are all in different countries) and my husband if anything (DCM forbids) were to happen to them. There is no way to be of any help when one is dead or locked up.

 

[mkrnhr]

I think the hysterics of the vaccines are going to kill everybody in a couple of months is as bad as Omg we're all going to die because of Covid. The difference is that the PTB control the narrative and psychological means of mass fear. So in the end, people who believe the Covid narrrative will see that "lives were saved" because of masks and lockdowns (and vaxxines) but when the killer vaxx narrative doesn't materialize as portrayed, it reinforce their faith in the authorities. Also, if something bad happens along the line, they are already prepared to blame the unbelievers (unvaxx).

 

[psychegram]

I think the hysterics of the vaccines are going to kill everybody in a couple of months is as bad as Omg we're all going to die because of Covid. The difference is that the PTB control the narrative and psychological means of mass fear. So in the end, people who believe the Covid narrrative will see that "lives were saved" because of masks and lockdowns (and vaxxines) but when the killer vaxx narrative doesn't materialize as portrayed, it reinforce their faith in the authorities. Also, if something bad happens along the line, they are already prepared to blame the unbelievers (unvaxx).

Indeed. That's why I'm careful to phrase my opposition in terms of, it's the principle of bodily sovereignty, not in terms of, I'm scared the needle will kill me.

 

[mkrnhr]

Indeed. That's why I'm careful to phrase my opposition in terms of, it's the principle of bodily sovereignty, not in terms of, I'm scared the needle will kill me.

When people ask me why I didn't take the injection, depending on the person asking I just respond by "I've been lucky for getting covid with a couple days of fever, so I'm already immune" or "because", and change the subject as if it's not a big deal. I prefer not phrasing it in terms of morality to avoid unecessary conflicts. When you say "I care about freedom/freewill/human dignity/body sovereignty etc.", that implies that the interlocutor doesn't care about those things. Given that you are very likely talking to a brainwashed person who's identified with their ego and narcissism, it's useless to argue. OSIT

 

[gottathink]

My theory about the vaccine agenda is that big pharma and their supporting interests are wanting control using eugenics, plain and simple. Hyper dimensional reality likely goes beyond this but as far as governments go they see an aging world population, more and more chaos with unsustainable monetary systems.

Moderna and Pfizer are wanting to have “miraculous” gene mRNA treatments be widely and rapidly accepted by the world and are hoping to usher in new treatments to cure aging so increase the productive healthy life span of humans. The worlds population is headed into catastrophic decline within the next 50 to 100 years so a depopulation agenda is not necessary. Having a non geriatric population to control and keep this running in my view is the goal. This is all wrapped up with financial technologies that tie people’s health to to their wealth.

I think these goals by the PTB have been consistent for generations. The problem is they are arrogant and have an understanding of science purely based on the medical model. Which is not science is dogma. This is born out of their arrogance and wishful thinking. And things are not going to plan, surprise surprise...when have arrogant and short sighted scientists ever changed the world successfully.

 

[psychegram]

When people ask me why I didn't take the injection, depending on the person asking I just respond by "I've been lucky for getting covid with a couple days of fever, so I'm already immune" or "because", and change the subject as if it's not a big deal. I prefer not phrasing it in terms of morality to avoid unecessary conflicts. When you say "I care about freedom/freewill/human dignity/body sovereignty etc.", that implies that the interlocutor doesn't care about those things. Given that you are very likely talking to a brainwashed person who's identified with their ego and narcissism, it's useless to argue. OSIT

It very much depends on who I'm talking to. If it's a random person, then "because I don't want to" is a perfectly sufficient answer. However, in my case there are certain situations where that won't do. For instance, because I haven't accepted the needle, I cannot cross the border and visit my family in Canada for Christmas. Furthermore, there's a risk I might lose my job. In such cases, "because I don't want to" doesn't really cut it, and it's necessary to go into a little bit more depth regarding the grounds for my opposition.

 

[Tauriel]

Ok...Not sure where to post this:

This is a chance to get a 'recovered pass' and at the same time a study about natural immunity.

The german doctor who has initiated this public campaign says, 'If immunity is Rome, then it doesn't matter how you get to Rome."

The website is called 'evidence of reason' (Evidenz der Vernunft).
Bürgerinitiative - EdV

So usually you can have as many antibodies as you like but you won't get a 'recovered pass' unless you had a positive pcr which is bs as we all know.
Here's the deal:
You get your antibodies checked with your doctor or, if your doctor is unwilling, you get it from a lab.
If you have antibodies there are forms to fill out (no cheating), you send them there and this doctor will give you a 'recovered pass' which would buy time. With this you'd be able to get this frigging QR code.

The website is in German but the forms to fill out are in different languages. For translation of the website you can use the deepL translator.
The doctor says also vaccinated people should do so so she can produce realistic statistics about immunity in vaxxed and unvaxxed people.

I went to my doctor for blood collection today and will see what I get back. In case I have antibodies I will definitely apply for this.

 

[Tauriel]

I forgot to mention.
If you don't have antibodies you can still send in your result anonymously to help with the study about immunity.
For the 'recovered pass' of course you must give your data.

 

[SOTTREADER]

So what do people think about vaccine acceptance and the high vaccination rates driving the evolution of covid into a virus that is getting more and more specialised at infecting cells? Whilst it doesn't appear that the case fatality rate of covid is getting worse, it does appear that highly vaccinated communities have higher infection rates and drive the emergence of "variants of concern". Israel and UK are two examples where infection rates have been quite high despite the 95%+ vaccination take up. Where this all ends is not known. GVB is of the view that those not vaccinated are acting to dampen the emergence of variants.

So, someone can say you shouldn't be scared of the jab because the adverse effects rate is "statistically rare", however, what about the longer term consequences of the evolution of the virus and the jabs role in this? Unless people now think GVB and other scientists like him are wrong, the jab will damage your ability to mount an effective innate immune response and even adaptive response to emerging variants. So there's also considerations of consequences to the immune system long term.

We're still at the outset of this jab rollout and indeed long-term consequences can't be known yet.

 

[luc]

Moderna and Pfizer are wanting to have “miraculous” gene mRNA treatments be widely and rapidly accepted by the world and are hoping to usher in new treatments to cure aging so increase the productive healthy life span of humans. The worlds population is headed into catastrophic decline within the next 50 to 100 years so a depopulation agenda is not necessary. Having a non geriatric population to control and keep this running in my view is the goal. This is all wrapped up with financial technologies that tie people’s health to to their wealth.

I'm not sure that the PTB are about curing people, but I think you are onto something. They are pushing other mRNA treatments very hard now that people accept them. I've heard from a relative who went to a public lecture in a mainstream place where a scientist presented all these amazing possibilities of mRNA technology for treating cancer etc. My guess is this has to do with the transhumanist agenda. So we might see more pressure to get mRNA shots for other things than Covid. If that's the agenda, I'm doubtful it will succeed the way they think though.