Euthanasia

Arwenn

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
A: Death is just passing through a door that is not accessible to the living except on the mental planes. If his father wishes to fully honor his son and his choice, he might do well to use this event as motivation to develop himself in a more fully spiritual way. More than that, he could help others in lieu of his son for his son.
There is so much (deliberate?) obfuscation around the topic of death, which creates so much fear, grief and sadness (all emotions that feed 4D STS from what I've read of Laura's work). As I mentioned in a post above
Reflecting on the whole Spirit Release Therapy and attachments from the Knowledge and Being videos by Laura, it would seem that indeed Western society and monotheistic religions have made us very fearful of the process of dying. Hence the attachments (they don't know how to transition to 5th D). The very institutions that are supposed to be a source of spiritual guidance through life and into death, have failed humanity miserably.
It would be so healing to the grieving process and the transitioning if we know what to expect and how to safely go to 5D when it's our time. If we had knowledge that death is transition, that the body is just a vehicle or an outfit that one needs to change every so often to learn, grow etc and that it is the Soul is what matters, things would be so different.
 

edgitarra

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
I don't know if my post would help with something, but since I saw some movie recommendations here I would like to share this finding with you: the movie is called "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly", it was made in 2007 and the story is about
Elle editor Jean-Dominique Bauby who suffers a stroke and has to live with an almost totally paralyzed body; only his left eye isn't paralyzed.
This is a true story. This man created a way of communicating with a therapist which helped to write a book!
Link to movie info
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0401383/

Giving-up is a choice, but not until you have NOTHING left. My opinion on this.
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
The latest news on practical technicalities: _http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/04/pharmacists_sometimes_refuse_t.php

Note: the in article hyper links are Dutch only.

source slightly modified said:
'Pharmacists sometimes refuse to give doctors euthanasia drugs'

Wednesday 16 April 2014

Dutch pharmacists sometimes refuse to provide the drugs needed by people who have chosen to end their lives through euthanasia, the NRC reports on Wednesday.

Euthanasia has been legal in the Netherlands since 2002 under strict conditions and if approved by two doctors.

More than half of doctors working for the independent euthanasia clinic say they have been refused the drugs on the grounds that pharmacists do not agree euthanasia is appropriate for a particular patient.

Most refusals concern ‘controversial’ cases, i.e. patients who have dementia, a psychiatric illness, or who consider their lives ‘complete’. Some pharmacists refuse on religious grounds, the NRC says.

Minister

The issue is the subject of the television program Altijd Wat Monitor which will be broadcast on Wednesday and which has already prompted MPs from the left-wing green party GroenLinks to ask for a debate with health minister Edith Schippers.

Although only doctors have the legal right to decide about euthanasia, pharmacists’ association KNMP thinks pharmacists have a right to their own opinions.

‘A pharmacy is not a shop where deadly drugs are just handed over’, an association spokesperson told the program.

During the program one doctor complains that his painstaking and regulated preparations for euthanasia are sometimes blocked at the last minute by a pharmacist who ‘has never even seen the patient.’

Legal requirement

Although they have no official role in the euthanasia process, pharmacists are not legally obliged to make drugs available, the NRC says. According to KMNP’s Annemieke Horikx, controversial cases divide doctors as well as pharmacists.

‘If you don’t agree you can’t continue’, said Horikx who also claims that doctors call pharmacies at the last moment. ‘They say: "Get me the medication and be quick about it". That’s no way to request medication. These are matters of life and death we’re dealing with. We also hear from pharmacists that the doctors concerned are unknown to them’.

The KMNP wants pharmacists to become part of the euthanasia law. It should also be possible for pharmacists who do not wish to cooperate to refer a doctor to another pharmacy, the association told the program.

© DutchNews.nl
 

Thor

Jedi Master
Arwenn said:
A: Death is just passing through a door that is not accessible to the living except on the mental planes. If his father wishes to fully honor his son and his choice, he might do well to use this event as motivation to develop himself in a more fully spiritual way. More than that, he could help others in lieu of his son for his son.
There is so much (deliberate?) obfuscation around the topic of death, which creates so much fear, grief and sadness (all emotions that feed 4D STS from what I've read of Laura's work). As I mentioned in a post above
Reflecting on the whole Spirit Release Therapy and attachments from the Knowledge and Being videos by Laura, it would seem that indeed Western society and monotheistic religions have made us very fearful of the process of dying. Hence the attachments (they don't know how to transition to 5th D). The very institutions that are supposed to be a source of spiritual guidance through life and into death, have failed humanity miserably.
It would be so healing to the grieving process and the transitioning if we know what to expect and how to safely go to 5D when it's our time. If we had knowledge that death is transition, that the body is just a vehicle or an outfit that one needs to change every so often to learn, grow etc and that it is the Soul is what matters, things would be so different.
I remember my yogi talking about the process of dying. He made the point that just before we die our brains shut down and all the things we've learnt mentally don't having that much relevance any longer. However, what has a great influence on the process is our how we breathe in the final stages. If we practice breathing on a regular basis during our lives (pranayama, EE, etc.) the body will automatically employ a breathing profile that reduces stress and this has a hugely beneficial effect on the transition. Knowledge protects - and so does breathing :)
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
About the current state of the official debate in the UK, see here:

http://www.sott.net/article/281851-Right-to-die-Justin-Welby-and-ex-Archbishop-Lord-Carey-clash-over-assisted-dying-issue
 

AnarKissed

Padawan Learner
I can only relate how I feel about this topic personally as I don't have relevant worldly information to impart. Take it as you will.

We are all here to learn lessons, that is the ultimate goal of 3D life according to the C's and my personal experiences backs this up.

When is it up to us, as individuals, to determine when we have stopped learning these lessons? Do these lessons stop revealing themselves to us when our physical bodies become defunct? When is it determined that our experiences no longer teach others by example?

I personally feel that physical discomfort can be an excellent teacher, I have experienced some incredible pain and sickness in my life and I have always felt that I came out of those situations as a much stronger individual with a more refined sense of my place. The side point there is that I did come out of them relatively intact.

Again, all of life is a lesson and we rarely determine what the curriculum will be.

If a being has determined that they are no longer relevant to the world and that there are no longer any lessons worth learning, then it is up to them to look to others to help in determining if they should continue their existence in this density. Does their existence contribute to the world in any way? If so, then their personal journey in this density is not complete. Could more be learned from their death than from their life?

I believe that answering these questions in pure honesty should help in determining the correct path.

I am a firm believer in providence and that the Universe will always show us the correct path, if we are able to listen properly to Her suggestions. Put your faith in Her ability to show the proper path and you cannot go wrong.
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
A questionable pilot study comes up with new totals for 'suicide tourism' in Switzerland:

http://www.sott.net/article/284229-A-telling-sign-of-our-times-Number-of-suicide-tourists-goes-up-in-Switzerland
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
Source: _http://www.nltimes.nl/2014/09/30/nearly-5000-chose-euthanasia-2013-15-increase/

Overview of latest 2013 euthanasia totals in the Netherlands -- trend upwards:

Nearly 5,000 chose euthanasia in 2013; 15% increase

Posted on Sep 30, 2014 by Emma Rapaport

Doctors in the Netherlands assisted 4,829 people to commit suicide in 2013, representing a 15% percent increase over 2012. The vast majority of cases involved patients suffering with cancer or unbearable pain, according to a report published by the five regional review committees.

The report outlined how doctors working in 2013 performed the euthanasia procedure in almost all cases. The committee flagged doctors in five cases because they did not perform the procedure according to the guidelines. In two cases, doctors made mistakes in their methodology, prescribing a non-standard drug to make the patient comatose. In none of the five cases were the errors so severe that the Public Prosecutor had to be called in.

Of the 4,829 people who were assisted, almost 3,600 were suffering from cancer related illnesses, 42 people reported having the procedure due to severe psychiatric problems, and 97 due to dementia cases where the patents were able to communicate their wish to die.

Euthanasia has been legal in the Netherlands under strict conditions since 2002.
According to CBS (Central Bureau of Statistics) the sum total of all deaths in 2013 amounted to 141,245 persons. Link

So just about 3% of those were deaths via euthanasia in 2013.
 

The Mechanic

Jedi Council Member
This article on sott is worth reading considering the topic discussed: http://www.sott.net/article/287019-Brittany-Maynard-Why-I-scheduled-my-death-for-November-1st , from the article:
I do not want to die. But I am dying. And I want to die on my own terms.

Death with dignity allows for people who are in the predicament of facing a lot of suffering that they can decide when enough is enough.
Palinurus said:
So just about 3% of those were deaths via euthanasia in 2013.
Wow, that's a lot more than I was aware of...
 

davey72

The Living Force
Looks like Brittany Maynard died as she wanted to.
http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.people.com%2Farticle%2Fbrittany-maynard-died-terminal-brain-cancer&h=lAQGWzsgl&enc=AZOGHOuUGCJmycb8Egzwqf37BkCZy1MVqzv7ELqpuWdxcxGQFoeZSKogKQ7aOuKBOgQ&s=1-
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
davey72 said:
Looks like Brittany Maynard died as she wanted to.
http://lm.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.people.com%2Farticle%2Fbrittany-maynard-died-terminal-brain-cancer&h=lAQGWzsgl&enc=AZOGHOuUGCJmycb8Egzwqf37BkCZy1MVqzv7ELqpuWdxcxGQFoeZSKogKQ7aOuKBOgQ&s=1-
Yes davey72, thanks for posting. You just beat me to it. Impressive and sad story.

Additional info:

_http://public.health.oregon.gov/ProviderPartnerResources/EvaluationResearch/DeathwithDignityAct/Pages/index.aspx

_http://www.thebrittanyfund.org/
_https://www.compassionandchoices.org/
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
http://www.sott.net/article/288400-May-she-rest-in-Peace-Death-with-dignity-advocate-Brittany-Maynards-voluntary-death-confirmed
 

Palinurus

The Living Force
Here's a story about what can happen when nothing sensible is allowed:

http://www.sott.net/article/288575-72-year-old-man-charged-with-murder-in-mercy-killing-his-wife-of-37-years
 

Gary

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
An interesting article on SOTT:

We have seen the expansion of the concept of relieving a person's pain to apply to emotional and psychiatric problems. Recently, an 89-year-old retired art teacher took her life at Dignitas in Switzerland. In an interview given to the London Times, she stated that she couldn't adapt to modern life and found that other people were acting increasingly like "robots." She had no terminal illness.
There is a slippery slope through which assisted suicide is becoming acceptable for those with emotional rather than terminal physical pain. This incurs uncomfortable recollections of the treatment of psychiatrically ill people in medieval times. Modern medicine seemed to go a great distance to reverse the perceptions and fate of those who were mentally ill, only to have a contemporary pathway carved out for their termination, via "choice."
http://www.sott.net/article/289654-Assisted-suicide-and-the-slippery-slope-towards-eugenics
 

Gary

The Living Force
FOTCM Member
For another aspect of the euthanasia issue, check out this article on SOTT. What about the "unbearable" psychological suffering of his victims and their families? Surely his 'inhumane' acts ought to result in lifetime basic incarceration, at the very least, with his 'suffering' prolonged for as long as possible. Offering him an early check out, by euthanasia, is an appalling, obscene affront to his victims.

Frank Van Den Bleeken, a serial murderer and rapist, who has spent 30 years in prison, is set to be euthanized in Belgium on January 11. He has asked to die due to his "unbearable" psychological suffering, local media reports.

Fifty-year-old Frank Van Den Bleeken has been convicted of repeated rape and murder, and the "euthanasia will indeed be implemented" in the northwestern town of Bruges, a justice ministry spokeswoman told local De Morgen newspaper.

"Now the time has come," she said.

Van Den Bleeken's euthanasia request was approved in September, but no date for the procedure was set then.

He has reportedly refused to be considered for early parole, viewing himself as a threat to society. However, he found the conditions behind bars inhumane, AFP reported, citing Belgian media.

The country's government hasn't released any official statement on the matter yet.

Belgium made euthanasia legal in 2002. In 2013, the number of mercy killings carried out in the country stood at 1,807, according to the statistics cited by AFP.

The terms for euthanasia are quite strict: patients must be mentally capable, conscious, and have demonstrated a "voluntary, considered and repeated" demand to die.
http://www.sott.net/article/290901-Serial-murderer-rapist-to-be-euthanized-in-Belgium-over-psychological-suffering
 
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