Nević Nenad
The Living Force
I am not surprised. On the Balkan we have Albanians. The same body built and physiognomies as those murderers. Also the same mindset, still tribal and middle ages.
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BHelmet
The Living Force
The middle ages are greatly insulted...
fifty_five
Jedi Master
Perhaps it can be added that killing or wounding is not the same thing as torture. And that under particular conditions such as bloodbaths we know well who among the overlords conducts the orchestra and gorges indiscriminately at the feast. And again perhaps, because of this and translated into 3d terms as far as legal, state violence is concerned, special forces are carefully trained (with varying results because we are stupid) not to lose the compass. And perhaps finally, and this is something that is not just about this particular case, all of this extends to social media as well, with the blowouts of the overloards continuing there as well, in a lethal and self-feeding game. Excellent in any case that Putin is focusing on creativity, mercy and humanism (I suspect an indemonstrable Chinese strategic advisory intervention
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This sounds a lot like the 'slippery slope' argument, which is not entirely wrong, but is often used to justify evils like censorship. The argument is essentially redundant; you might as well say, "people shouldn't be exposed to evil because they risk becoming evil." Well, yes, that is a risk. But some people will become evil regardless of what they are exposed to, and some people will only be strengthened in their 'goodness' by the same exposure. Ultimately, it doesn't affect the morality of the situation, because the situation itself determines morality.
Exactly. War is evil, but it can also be a catalyst for great good.
Olivierlejardinier
Jedi Council Member
Esote
Dagobah Resident
This journalist says that if the "operation" comes from the Ukrainians it is an absolute masterstroke, a prodigious move...
Whatever it means she seems quite enjoying this possibility, as if it were something kind of glorious for Ukraine, if...
PERLOU
The Living Force
Anne Niva is the wife of a famous Radio Jacques Bourdin journalist.
She has a high opinion of herself and is rather unpleasant from my point of view...
Anne Nivat, born June 18, 19692 in Poisy (Haute-Savoie), is a French journalist and author.
A war reporter who was awarded the Albert-London Prize in 2000, she has specialized in sensitive areas (Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan...) for almost sixteen years, sometimes clandestinely and always independently, i.e. without being on the payroll of an editorial office, even though she has been published in the weekly Le Point for over ten years.
She has a high opinion of herself and is rather unpleasant from my point of view...
Anne Nivat, born June 18, 19692 in Poisy (Haute-Savoie), is a French journalist and author.
A war reporter who was awarded the Albert-London Prize in 2000, she has specialized in sensitive areas (Chechnya, Iraq, Afghanistan...) for almost sixteen years, sometimes clandestinely and always independently, i.e. without being on the payroll of an editorial office, even though she has been published in the weekly Le Point for over ten years.
I’ve noticed that you have a very idealistic view of things, from the Milei situation in Argentina, to here with these Crocus attackers.
I think you’re very emotionally invested in, if not the way things should be, then at least, the way things could be.
I’m only pointing this out because that may prevent you from coming to terms with the way things actually are.
Yes, it sucks. But it’s better to work on the fact that it sucks, than to become blocked by the wish that it didn’t.
It would be optimal to be able to have the best of both, more balance, so that you can consciously choose to think about how things could be better, and also work on how they’re not right now, rather than just let the emotions dictate your outlook on things.
It's like hitting the nail on the head. When I wrote, I thought about them, but did not mention them, because this is my, so to speak, remote understanding. I have never been in the company of Albanians, but based on what I know about them, this should be exactly the case.
In my understanding, this "IF" does not excuse her at all. Of course, I still have little information about her to draw any final conclusions, but in my opinion, auntie is "lost". She talks about it like some kind of sports match. I would still be interested in her reaction to similar French events in 2015, then it would be possible to understand more.
I noticed it too.
I don't know if we have the right, but in the end we communicate and there is no purpose to criticize for the sake of criticism. I hope that the goal is different - to help each other understand and learn more without imposing anything. So no offense
Это похоже попадание в точку. Я, когда писал, то подумал о них, но не стал упоминать, потому что это мое, так сказать, дистанционное понимание. Я никогда не был в обществе албанцев, но исходя из того, что я о них знаю, это должно быть именно так.
В моем понимании этот "IF" ее нисколько не извиняет. Конечно у меня по прежнему мало информации о ней, чтобы делать какие то окончательные выводы, но по моему, тетенька "потерялась". Она обсуждает это, как какой то спортивный матч. По прежнему мне была бы интересна её реакция на аналогичные французские события 2015 года, тогда можно было бы больше понять.
Я тоже обратил на это внимание.
Не знаю имеем ли мы право, но в конце концов мы же общаемся и тут нет цели критиковать ради критики. Надеюсь, что цель другая- помочь друг другу больше понять и узнать не навязывая ничего. Так что без обид
В моем понимании этот "IF" ее нисколько не извиняет. Конечно у меня по прежнему мало информации о ней, чтобы делать какие то окончательные выводы, но по моему, тетенька "потерялась". Она обсуждает это, как какой то спортивный матч. По прежнему мне была бы интересна её реакция на аналогичные французские события 2015 года, тогда можно было бы больше понять.
Я тоже обратил на это внимание.
Не знаю имеем ли мы право, но в конце концов мы же общаемся и тут нет цели критиковать ради критики. Надеюсь, что цель другая- помочь друг другу больше понять и узнать не навязывая ничего. Так что без обид
I don't know if we have the right, but in the end we communicate and there is no purpose to criticize for the sake of criticism. I hope that the goal is different - to help each other understand and learn more without imposing anything. So no offense
I was very conscious of the fact that what I wrote may come across as a personal criticism but I tried my best to not make it sound that way.
I only wrote what I wrote because I thought it might be helpful. It came from a place of care and regard. I hope it is taken that way.
And they'd probably laugh at you.
You seem to be under the impression that those guys didn't know what they were doing in killing those people. Maybe you think they thought they were shooting roses at them?
You think they didn't know the consequences of what they were doing?
Remorse? Really? Those guys don't see killing dozens of people as a "horrible reality", they see it as fun, clearly.
Those guys don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Reports claim they were on drugs at the time, which is common among such types.
Well, it sounds weird to me that apparently the damage was done because they were carrying “plastic bottles with petrol in”.
How big were those plastic bottles? There’s four of you, you’re carrying AK’s. At most, you’re gonna be able to also carry 1 x 20ltr container due to weight and bulkiness.
Do you really want to be carrying an extra 20kgs of weight while you’re storming a building… weight that is also highly incendiary, when there’s gonna be bullets flying around?
Setting aside for a moment the position a leader like Putin has to sometimes take in such circumstances, similar to Caesar, who also had to resort to cruelty at times, but never for its own sake and only after repeated attempts of mercy and if there is no other way, what follows expands on my position on cruelty/sadism above.
On a personal level, for most people who don’t have such a context/responsibility to deal with like Putin does, one could ask:
Why should I ever give a psychopathic perpetrator power over me by essentialy inducing me into acting in cruel/sadistic ways? Why should I give him (and/or the dark forces working through him) ANY energy, least of which, energy that could very well also take a toll on my soul? Why should I lower myself into his scum-world? I‘m not that scum and that scum won’t force me into his world no matter what! At most, I might punch the guy in the face a couple of times as hard as I possibly can. But that’s how far I would ever go in engaging in cruelty/sadism.
Having said that, I think there is a strong differentiation to be made here to killing a evil human being, and more specifically, accomplishing it quickly with as little cruelty as possible. I think that is something quite different and totally justified. It‘s basically comparable to getting rid of a bug, quickly and efficiently, which is best for all involved.
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