Explosion in Southern Indianapolis...possible meteor fragment??

The whole scene looks like it was hit by a missile, FWIW, but.

The husband worked for 'Stray Light Optical Technologies' which specialises in "Light Emitting Plasma" (LEP) devices.

LEP is a solid state high intensity light source that brings clean, efficient lighting solutions to general and specialty lighting. It is energy efficient, long lasting, full spectrum and brighter than other lighting technologies such as LED in many applications. Plasma lights use an RF power supply that converts electrical power to radio frequency (RF) power, a process that vaporizes the contents of the LEP bulb to a plasma state, generating an extremely bright source of light.

How it Works

An RF circuit is established by connecting an RF power amplifier to a ceramic resonant cavity known as the “puck.” In the center of the puck is a sealed quartz bulb that contains materials consistent with metal-halide lamps.
The puck driven by the power amplifier creates a standing wave confined within its walls. The electric field is strongest at the center of the bulb, which ionizes the gasses inside.
The ionized gas heats up and evaporates the metal halide material, which forms a bright plasma column within the bulb to radiate light. Behind the bulb, a highly reflective powder reflects nearly all light in a forward direction.

Just thought it was interesting, the mention of plasma and ionized gas, which links to the electric universe theories. So maybe it was some kind of bizarre electrical discharge or "lightning strike"?
 
xplosion took place.outhern Indianapolis...possible meteor fragment??

seek10 said:
Zadius Sky said:
anart said:
That he's an audio-electronics engineer??

I just searched for his name, and there is a youtube about him and his "background." There's a rumor that he was a "target." :huh:

Indianapolis Explosion Update - Shocking info on John Dion Longworth
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxewSONvIaM
For me this video looks like conspiracy mongering. Numericals are fine, he put up message that "I got my photo with tom green! and I can now die a happy man". this is message sounds to me his excitement in meeting Tom green rather than a foreknowledge of his being target.

They say they have seen black helicopter day before. that needs more data to validate.

I JUST remembered what I saw when I was outside Friday afternoon (around 3 pm). My father was visiting and as I walked him to his car, we both heard very loud planes approaching. They were flying low enough that he was able to distinguish what type of military aircraft they were. They were A-10 Warthogs. 4 of them. After doing 3 circles, they lined up in formation and headed due south. I'm pretty much due north of where said explosion took place. Who knows if that had anything to do with it, but I remember wondering if there was some sort of local parade or Veteran's Day event that might have arranged for the fly over.
 
It could be a home experiment, was there be a garage between the two houses, if there was somebody experimenting, it might account for the two houses being flattened.

Mr Longworth, experimenting using his RF know how and applying it to a new improved process, separating hydrogen from water, maybe applying the technology to his car or something, possible hydrogen explosion, it’s not a difficult thing to do.

Though it might not have been hydrogen, maybe somebody was doing something else that went horribly wrong, taking wifi to the next level, free energy boom! LOL

It might not have anything to do with Mr Longworth, could be his neighbour.

Never know!
 
I have a tough time accepting the notion that a home plasma experiment had the concussive force to knock several homes off their foundations and reduced two to blackened rubble. My husband taught my nephews how to make plasma in a microwave, for instance. (In the garage, and it was not explosive, just poisonous if you stuck your face in the fumes.)

A military accident isn't that far afield.
 
Guardian said:
anart said:
That he's an audio-electronics engineer??

Actually it was the phrases "multi million dollar" and "plasma research" that got my attention.

It's not hard to spend a few million dollars on research like that. Experienced engineers and scientists each cost upwards of $150k per year including salary and benefits, competent lab technicians cost at least $100k each, fully burdened, and the lab equipment and research devices are rather expensive.

Plasma research could be just about anything, though, from creating audio-visual equipment to work on exotic weapons.
 
FWIW, I also looked up some gas explosion photos for comparison and this was the most similar one I was able to find. It looks like a similar kind of damage (building reduced to rubble) on a smaller scale. The wreckage is not charred like the Indianapolis wreckage.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11674576
 
What I don't understand is how all those houses can be flattened, but the blast didn't knock the dead leaves off the trees?

Look at this one. Yeah, there are a few leaves on the ground below the tree, but not many. You'd see more leaves than that in a strong wind?

Indy-explosion--1--jpg.jpg
 
Re: xplosion took place.outhern Indianapolis...possible meteor fragment??

BrightLight11 said:
seek10 said:
Zadius Sky said:
anart said:
That he's an audio-electronics engineer??

I just searched for his name, and there is a youtube about him and his "background." There's a rumor that he was a "target." :huh:

Indianapolis Explosion Update - Shocking info on John Dion Longworth
_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxewSONvIaM
For me this video looks like conspiracy mongering. Numericals are fine, he put up message that "I got my photo with tom green! and I can now die a happy man". this is message sounds to me his excitement in meeting Tom green rather than a foreknowledge of his being target.

They say they have seen black helicopter day before. that needs more data to validate.

I JUST remembered what I saw when I was outside Saturday afternoon (around 3 pm). My father was visiting and as I walked him to his car, we both heard very loud planes approaching. They were flying low enough that he was able to distinguish what type of military aircraft they were. They were A-10 Warthogs. 4 of them. After doing 3 circles, they lined up in formation and headed due south. I'm pretty much due north of where said explosion took place. Who knows if that had anything to do with it, but I remember wondering if there was some sort of local parade or Veteran's Day event that might have arranged for the fly over.
 
I'm sorry for the duplicate post. I went to 'modify' the first post I had written and hit 'Quotes' instead. It was about seeing the planes. After speaking with my father, we realized he had visited on Saturday, not Friday. Big difference in timing...especially if it might have been military.
 
Guardian said:
What I don't understand is how all those houses can be flattened, but the blast didn't knock the dead leaves off the trees?

Look at this one. Yeah, there are a few leaves on the ground below the tree, but not many. You'd see more leaves than that in a strong wind?

Indy-explosion--1--jpg.jpg


The details like this are the main reason the gas leak doesn't make sense to me....even with substandard construction on the homes involved, the blast was too strong, and natural gas has to have a certain mixture to ignite, etc....

I do understand that Citizens Gas is doing major damage control and minimizing the 'they'll sue us' end of things, but it is looking like
the focus is turning towards a natural gas explosion via deliberate tampering with the furnace, according to the news reports. Its turning into a homicide investigation. I'm not seeing much this morning in the local news, but will dig into it a bit later today.
 
This is from yesterday: http://www.indystar.com/article/20121112/NEWS/121112004/Conditions-must-be-perfect-for-severe-blast-experts-say?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|NEWS02

What does it take to turn a 2,700-square-foot home into a bomb large enough to flatten two other houses, pummel dozens more, rattle dishes for miles and set off earthquake sensors 30 miles away?


According explosives experts: 90 pounds of natural gas, a lack of ventilation and an ignition source.

The Star spoke Monday with four explosive experts after they reviewed photos and news accounts of Saturday evening’s explosion on Indy’s Southside. Each said the blast could very well have come from a natural gas explosion.

City public safety officials, however, cautioned that their investigation into the blast that killed two people and damaged 80 homes, is incomplete and ongoing. While they say it appears gas may have caused the blast, other factors could be in play so they avoided giving a definitive cause.

The experts The Star spoke to said it’s extremely rare for a gas explosion that huge to occur inside a home, but it’s entirely possible.

For that to happen, they say, the conditions inside the home have to be just right.

In order for natural gas to detonate, there needs to be a very specific mixture of air and fuel inside the home.

Each said the blast could very well have come from a natural gas explosion.

City public safety officials, however, cautioned that their investigation into the blast that killed two people and damaged 80 homes, is incomplete and ongoing. While they say it appears gas may have caused the blast, other factors could be in play so they avoided giving a definitive cause.

The experts The Star spoke to said it’s extremely rare for a gas explosion that huge to occur inside a home, but it’s entirely possible.

For that to happen, they say, the conditions inside the home have to be just right.

In order for natural gas to detonate, there needs to be a very specific mixture of air and fuel inside the home.

The experts say that if less than 5 percent gas is floating in the air, there wouldn’t be enough fuel to spark a blast.

If there’s more than 15 percent gas in the air, the fuel mixture also wouldn’t ignite from lack of oxygen.


Nina Scotti, a California fire and explosions expert and former investigator with the Pasadena Fire Department, described the process as being similar to a carbureted small engine with a choke that controls the air and fuel mixture that causes the motor’s pistons and cylinders to fire.

“Think of your lawnmower or your Weed Eater when you can’t get it started,” Scotti said.

You can pull and pull the starter chord, and the machine won’t start because either it doesn’t have enough fuel or you’ve flooded the cylinder with too much.

The most volatile mixture for a massive blast of the magnitude of Saturday’s is around 10 percent gas.

“The perfect storm you might say,” says Paul Worsey, an explosives engineering professor at Missouri University of Science and Technology.

Worsey said to fill a 2,700-square-foot home you’d need around 90 pounds of fuel — about as much as a tank of gas in a car.

“I can get about 300 miles on that,” Worsey said. “If I drive at 50 mph, it will take me six hours.”

The difference, of course, is that inside his engine there are 7,500 tiny explosions happening each minute.

“The problem you have here is it happened in one big one all at one time,” he said.

Of course, inside the home there’d need to be an ignition source to coincide with just the right mix.

“Maybe a thermostat kicking in or something like that,” Worsey said.

But how did that much gas get into the home without anyone noticing the fuel’s foul smell?

W. Michael Shinkle, a Des Moines, Iowa, attorney who specializes in natural-gas related civil suits, says it sometimes is caused by an underground leak coming from a supply line feeding the home.

Shinkle at one time represented a company that manufactured a chemical additive that gives the otherwise odorless gas its noxious smell.

Shinkle said the soil acts as a natural filter that eliminates the smell. He said the leak then could have filled the home from the ground up without anyone noticing. Officials say the home was empty when the blast occurred.

The gas utility is continuing to investigate the explosion. Citizens Energy Group spokeswoman Sarah Holsapple said crew members inspected main gas lines Sunday and found no problems.

She said Monday they were in the process of testing service lines that run into the home where the blast occurred; the results were pending.

Holsapple said a meter reader had been at the house on Oct. 26 to test energy consumption levels, and found nothing out of the ordinary.

The experts say a natural-gas explosion also would have certainly had enough force to pummel nearby homes even several streets away.

That also includes the strange scene inside the neighborhood where homes blocks from the blast had garage doors caved in — even if they were pointed away from the blast.

Worsey said that’s because a blast causes a vacuum to form as superheated air is forced away from the ignition source. Air rushes back into the void caused by the explosion.


He said the air sucking back in very easily could have caved in the opposite-facing doors.

“Garage doors are pretty weak,” he said. “And it doesn’t take much pressure to cave one in.”

Star reporter Jill Disis contributed to this story. Follow Star reporter? Ryan Sabalow on Twitter at twitter.com/RyanSabalow. Call him at (317) 444-6179.

Note: Italics added
 
More on the earthquake angle: http://www.indystar.com/article/20121112/NEWS/211120334/Earthquake-sensors-detected-Indianapolis-explosion?odyssey=obinsite

The explosion late Saturday that killed two people and damaged 80 homes on Indianapolis’ Southeastside was so strong it was detected on scientists’ earthquake sensors miles from the scene.

“We’re still sorting through the data . . . but it’s likely we picked up the sound wave, the boom triggered by the explosion,” said Michael Hamburger, a professor of geological sciences at Indiana University.

Hamburger cautioned that the above-ground blast late Saturday night can’t be compared to a typical underground earthquake, so there isn’t a Richter-scale number to measure the rumble that shook dishes and rattled picture frames miles from the blast site.

Nonetheless, the closest earthquake sensor to the blast — almost 30 miles away at Martinsville in Morgan County — detected a rumble in the ground at 11:08 p.m.

Two other sensors further away at Sheridan in Hamilton County and Milroy in Rush County picked up vibrations in the air about three minutes later, just enough time for the “airwave boom” to make its way to the test sites.

Hamburger said those two sensors are measuring barometric pressure and “infrasound subsonic” waves as part of a national earthquake experiment.

The same sensors in Martinsville didn’t detect the sound waves, but did detect the ground vibrations, he said.

It wasn’t the only rumble seismologists detected.

On Saturday afternoon, at 12:08 p.m., an actual earthquake was felt in parts of Indiana.

The U.S. Geological Survey website said the epicenter of the 4.3 magnitude earthquake was about 10 miles west of Whitesburg, Ky., near the Virginia border.

Follow Star reporter Ryan Sabalow at twitter.com/RyanSabalow. Call him at (317) 444-6179.
 
Gimpy said:
Nonetheless, the closest earthquake sensor to the blast — almost 30 miles away at Martinsville in Morgan County — detected a rumble in the ground at 11:08 p.m.

....

It wasn’t the only rumble seismologists detected.

On Saturday afternoon, at 12:08 p.m., an actual earthquake was felt in parts of Indiana.

Hey, there's another 11 for us. The rumble of the blast was logged exactly 11 hrs. after the earthquake. Weeeird.


So, could the original earthquake break a pipe that far away and cause a gas leak? It doesn't really look like the explosion blew UP to me, but more toward the front of the house. Houses blocks away had garage doors caved in that were facing the opposite direction because of a vacuum? Was there anything facing the explosion that was pulled OUT?

I wonder if it could have been some kind of bizarre electrical discharge like Perceval suggested.
 
Gimpy said:

What does it take to turn a 2,700-square-foot home into a bomb large enough to flatten two other houses, pummel dozens more, rattle dishes for miles and set off earthquake sensors 30 miles away?

But it doesn't knock the yellowing leaves off a little tree a few feet away? That's not natural, a blast like what they're describing should have blown that tree almost bare, if not knocked it down. The branches aren't even bowed like they were in a wind.

So what totally destroys inorganic matter, but doesn't appear to touch the organic stuff right next to it?
 
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