So yeah, it was the news anchor that gave a wrong impression. The snipers weren't stationed on the ground level - they were monitoring the ground level. This is the quote that got cut off in the twitter vids:Has anyone found the full interview from the above tweets? There might be some info to make the situation clearer in those statements that are cut off. From the pics of the sniper location, it looks like this one is on the second floor, but the window is the one facing west, not south towards Trump. That would match up with one of the three positions from the docs provided to Grassley (yellow):
Here's what I believe is the location, with lines to the tree and the building visible in the sniper pics. The tree wouldn't have been visible from the blue location.
As for the pics Nicol took of Crooks, those were apparently taken from the middle, blue position. Do those photos look like they were taken from the ground floor, or second floor? (This video tries to recreate the vantage point in 3D from the second floor.)
In other words, they could have seen Crooks if they had stuck their heads out the window - but they were told to watch the crowd, not the rooftops."The snipers from the Butler and Beaver ESU teams were posted in the second floor of the building adjacent to where the shooter was located, were posted in the two windows toward the end of the building," Goldinger said. "From their post and vantage point, they were unable to see the shooter on the roof of the other building."
Looking at the two photographs of the supposed counter sniper rifle inside with the open window - do you see what is wrong here ?
Who provided that photo - and why would they supply it ?
Something very important is missing on that weapon; something that allows for complete powder burn of the cartridge, something that has an internal twist of lands & grooves, the length of which determines not just the weapon's accuracy but the precision of that accuracy.
Imo that photo of the rifle was staged.
It's certainly an interesting choice but considering most "police" sniper shots are under 100 yards I'm not surprised by the configuration.
Tikka T3x TACT w/ 16" barrel. Pretty low end for what most LE teams are using.
Not the rifle that is circulating. See belowA question for gun owners, could a person break down the rifle Crooks used and carry it in a backpack?
Going to try to clear this up as when someone says "collapsible stock" I have come to realize non-gun folks don't really know what that means (which politicians hope you never really do). A stock that collapses is pretty standard on modular platforms that accomodates shooters with different arm lengths. On AR platforms most collapsible stocks have 6 to 7 different slots that the buttstock locks into, giving a few inches of travel as seen below (I put two tape measures in inches to illustrate, can't find my metric tape measure, sorry!)FBI director Wray did testify that Crooks rifle had a collapsible stock.
So, he was taken out by the 10th shot?Martenson's latest on the 9th shot. Looks like it was a local ESU guy from behind the left stands. Didn't hit Crooks, but stopped the shooting long enough for the south SS sniper team to take him out.
Looking at the two photographs of the supposed counter sniper rifle inside with the open window - do you see what is wrong here ?
Who provided that photo - and why would they supply it ?
Something very important is missing on that weapon; something that allows for complete powder burn of the cartridge, something that has an internal twist of lands & grooves, the length of which determines not just the weapon's accuracy but the precision of that accuracy.
Imo that photo of the rifle was staged.
This is significant I too believe, and my earliest questions at the beginning of this thread regarding who bought Crooks the Demo Ranch t-shirt and did his parents use DBT (Dialectical Behavioral Therapy) on their son?Also an interesting tidbit: Both of Crooks' parents were apparently Behavioral Therapists.
It hasn't circulated yet, but apparently there is another photo making the rounds that shows the entry would very clearly above his left eye. It might be visible in this photo, but just barely. I think that dark bit above his left lip is just blood congealed in his facial hair. Here's the pic with what could be the entry wound circled, and a line showing the path to the exit wound:The red mark looks to me like if the skin goes to the outside, which is more likely for an exit wound. Most often, and judging from shooting game, the entry wound is minimal, and often you even need to search for it. The exit wound depends then on the bullet, though I don't know what military or snipers use, and I'm lacking the proper English names: full metal jacket, or tipped ones? No matter what, when a bullet exists a body, the skin goes outside, because of the strength/force.
The hair could also be blown up when it exists on the back. And also maybe he was lifting his head to look, what damage he had done, where the sniper could see him. Which is also normal after shooting, to get an overview of the scene. Depends if a shooter is used to use both eyes for aiming and only concentrates on the one eye in front of the sight or if he closes one.
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Cullen is one of the worst. He's been wrong about pretty much everything.I'm not really sure what to make of this one. This is the James Copenhaver film of someone running across the roof. It seems like they are suggesting that Crooks was dead before any shots were fired (because Trump is still talking), and yet we have another video of Crooks on the roof (from a different angle) when shots were fired and there was no gun recoil into his shoulder (suggesting he didn't shoot the first 3 shots). This is just getting weirder and weirder... unless the footage has been changed or tampered with somehow.
In your opinion what has he been wrong about so far?Cullen is one of the worst. He's been wrong about pretty much everything.
Even if that's true, and I still have absolutely no idea what is true at this point, what caliber weapons were the SS team shooting? Did they have 300 wimags, or something smaller? Because if that's a 300 winmag entry wound below his left eye, there should be almost nothing left of the back of his head - but we don't have a direct picture of that part of his head, do we?It hasn't circulated yet, but apparently there is another photo making the rounds that shows the entry would very clearly above his left eye. It might be visible in this photo, but just barely. I think that dark bit above his left lip is just blood congealed in his facial hair. Here's the pic with what could be the entry wound circled, and a line showing the path to the exit wound:
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The guys at Paramount Tactical claim to have seen the other picture (also this timestamp), and describe it depicting that portion of his skull as basically caved in (presumably the part that is touching the roof in the above photo). If it's circulating privately, it'll become public eventually. (BTW, they interview the guy who took the 3/5 video in the same livestream.)